Starting over

[AppleJack]

Well I kind of dissapointed myself lately. The whole mysticism thing did not work out. Turned out to be too much mental masturbation(kind of wore myself out and had to take a 2 month break. I am going to purge my current
practices and start anew from lessons learned. On the upside the last 6 months have been very helpful overall.
I currently starting over with simple meditation. I am going to read up a bit. I am starting with a mix of Taoist,Occult and Laveyain stuff.
Anyone got any good recommendations for Occult books or web sites along these lines?

[Malachi]

Apple Jack I've run the gauntlet with meditations for eight years. From the get go I've been looking for power through it. Finally found one that actually works, gives a deep sense of bliss with a high level of concentration to match. I guess you could say it's a breath linked mantra. Everytime you breath out through your nose you mentally hold your mind on that mantra( I'm just counting " one" for now)until the end of the exhalation. Only note the out breaths. I tried counting my inhalations and exhaltion and found myself getting tense. The out breath is the only thing needed to get to a calm relaxed state. I use to do alot of zen breath-counting and found it rediculiously hard. I just could'nt relax because I had to keep count. When I switch it to just counting one it just became easier. This is a path to complete mental absorbtion. My mind is now quiet and I'm amazed that my Luciferian beliefs are still intact. I'm not saying I believe I'll develop magical abilites( or siddhis) but with a calm mind in a world full of mindless robots, I'm having fun if you catch my drift. The new agers have made a sham of meditation, with there dumb smiles, and have turned it into a carebear adventure. This is an old way of meditation, one that get alot of flax from buddist, because they say it lead to bliss with no meaning, no wisdom, just a deep trance levels of bliss called jhanas. This is a path of concetration. Alot of buddist are more concerned with awareness training. Some forms of concetration are used as tools by them, like a rope into the mind, to reach the Absolute ( Satori) but mostly it is just looked upon as a tool for corruption of the ego. Thats why I picked it. When the bliss hits, your in the moment, and the ego is yours. Thats the only magic I believe in and if there is a Lucifer( I hope there is) he would like this path just fine.

[fr.novumorganum]

asana
prana
vibration/mantra
visualization


that will give a solid skill set to tackle the occult.

[Kain]

asana
prana
vibration/mantra
visualization


that will give a solid skill set to tackle the occult.VERY good advice indeed if I may second that...

Kain

[Rin Daemoko]

Do most mystics really spend all their time living inside their heads (engagin in "Mental masterbation")? Pity. I suppose it's a good thing I haven't really met other mystics.

[m1thr0s]

I'm sure it's mainly a question of how you define the word...People into tantra are often defined as mystics and I doubt that most of them have this problem...

Starting over is a natural part of ANY learning process...analytical theorists (such as myself) start over all the time. Knowing when and how to start over is actually a hallmark of experience. It doesn't invalidate your path, it just upgrades it.

m1thr0s

[Amur]

Think I'll start over also, crumbling a bunch to dust.

Materialistic life, indulging, this dimension, normal mundane things + some artistic work. Will be quite the vacation from this overly mental masturbation with all the god voices and other shit. Ehhe. Fuck'em all here I come :rolleyes:

[cykros]

For a nice clean and simple foundation to magickal/mystical practice, I suggest reading either Liber MMM by Peter Carroll (found at http://www1.autistici.org/amprodias/secreto/Peter%20Carroll%20-%20Liber%20MMM.pdf). It is the first section of Liber Null if you're interested in looking further into the rest of the book. Another approach which is nearly identical yet a bit more to read through is Aleister Crowley's Liber ABA (namely part one on Mysticism, which can be found at www.hermetic.com/crowley). Both of these are primarily focused around the practice of Asana, Pranayama, Dharana, Dyana, and Samadhi. Enjoy, and good luck.

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