The 'A' and the Christ

[BrotherM]

Hi All,

Forgive me if this is the wrong forum, also forgive my total lack of knowledge of the Abrahadabra formula.

Last night I started experimenting with the 'A' and had a very unexpected experience to say the least. I was working with the 'A' like I would a rune or hebrew letter or tarot card, so I suppose by skrying initially and then after I got used to the energy/current I did as much of an invocation as I could. What blew me away is that initially it was like a glowing, energised, joyous feeling and then I felt the form of the energy transform into what I interperated as the 'Christ' or Osiris Slain / Risen architype. It was an intense experience, very detailed and very automatic. By automatic, I mean that I had not read in any detail anything about what was supposed to happen when you do this nor did I apply any control to what happened during the experience, only after did I try and interpret the experience.

Have others who have experimented with the 'A' had similar results or am I totally off. I need to read the forum

BrotherM

[Kain]

Interesting experience BrotherM. I think that what you perceived has "objective" grounding too, as 'A' has been often regarded as a sound with special significance by various groups trhroughout history. In Sanskrit lore for instance, it is said that the whole Sanskrit language is built "around" this sound. It is said to be the basic, free and uninhibited vocalization that is later on manipulated through "locks" (of the throat) to make all other sounds, so it is considered the underscoring sound of language in general as well. This gives it a set of attributes quite "primordial" in character so I think that connecting it with such archetypes is not a baseless thing to do.

I'm not sure about the Qabbalistic connotations of Aleph, perhaps someone could fill in for this.

Also, I guess this thread is not directly related with Abrahadabra but it can be I think, as 'A' plays quite an important role in Abrahadabra.

Kain

[BrotherM]

Hi Kain,

It is related to Abrahadabra, well, I was trying to do what Ibisis said in a thread about working the formula where you start with the A and then work your way down the initial triangle all the way to ABRAHADABRA, then you reduce the letters and work your way up. Guess I stuffed it up, I'll go back and check what he was trying to explain.

Many thanks,

BrotherM

EDIT: Right, the correct terminology for what I was trying to do was working with the ABRAHADABRA Grid! Starting with A (i.e. the top) and that is as far as I got. The experience was just as strong as pathworking the TOL, just more RAW which is great!

[Anibis]

Oh yeah... the Aleph is very much related to this archetype. The Holy Fool of course is sometime attributed to the Christ principle, or Dionysus in the Thoth Tarot.... A is representative of 'Apophis' in the IAO formula, so that's not a hit, but if you consider that the A is in a sense a pentagram (Count all the points and intersections) one can see how the YHShVH formula could be assigned to it. In English 'A' announces a singular noun, in the same way that the 'Christ' principle, and (also the Buddha principle) emphasizes the singularity of the individual and their work. To be nominalized (made a noun) is to be 'killed' in a sense: to have the phenomenon in question 'picked out' and abstracted and then fixed in relation to other abstractions (a sort of crucifixion), but which allows it for a new life as an idea independant from the actual sensible phenomena which was so labled.... The spirit reborn so to speak. If you consider that A is the first letter in ?all? phonetic alphabets, you could make the inference that these ideas came originally from the egyptian context which, as far as I know, was the place where the phonetic alphabet brewed but never quite emerged. The first Phonetic alphabet was of course, Phoenician (hence 'Phonetic'), which was the prototype for Hebrew et al... Via the Hermetic Tarot attrubutions, Aleph is connected to 'Air' which then is cross-attributed to 6 (Tipareth), the so-called 'Christ Centre'. Mabye those ruminations will reveal some fruitful threads.....
-Ibisis
P.S. You can talk about Christ without Jesusism being involved incidently... It would be nice, I think if Christianity would aknowledge multiple Christs, in the same way that Buddhism aknowledges multiple Buddhas...

[fr.novumorganum]

I look forward to posts from some of the more advanced practicioners of this material, as I've just started working abrahadabra into my path as well.

I didn't experience any christ/osiris consciousness, but I can relate to how you were describing it as automatic. From my limited experience, this formula is kust juiced, like tapping right into the mainframe. In my limited practice, I've been finding the Abrahadabra work to 'reinvigorate' my older work----

[Anibis]

Starting with A (i.e. the top) and that is as far as I got. The experience was just as strong as pathworking the TOL, just more RAW which is great!
Cool thing is you can actually work both at once!
-Ibisis

[m1thr0s]

It's a beautiful thing watching people starting to run with some of this stuff. Anyone who has followed my rants at all will probably know that I am not a person easily impressed...I have a brutally analytical mind and if something has logical holes in it I am on it like white on rice. Authenticity is everything to me...I simply haven't time for anything less than this.

We might begin a little laundry list of important "A" forms. Certainly Abrasax comes to mind as does Aeon. Apophis has already been mentioned but no one has mentioned Hua which has a potent role to play in this immediate logic for several reasons...the most subliminal probably being that its formal 4-part spelling is AHVH which we have identified as the Man-Line (corresponding to the Jen principle) in this logic. Somewhere in Crowley's ramblings he refers to Hua as the "Name of the Ascending Triangle". Certainly in this context that would apply. IAO of course is all over the map in this thing as is Amoun and even Apsu figures into things prominently at junctions. I haven't made such a list before but just off the top of my head I think we have quite a few powerful "A" archetypes converging on this logic.

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

With the A's connection to the pentacle stated above, it is neat that Abrahadabra has five a' since they are easily arranged in that form...
-Ibisis

[BrotherM]

wow, very interesting posts guys, thanks for responding. Work is nuts at the moment but when I have time I will post more on my

A
AB

working last night which was very deep. What Fr Novum says about feeling like you are being plugged directly into the source using this grid is spot on, the working last night was so strong that I am going to back up and spend more time on A, in truth, I know when to respect things that are too powerful to fully handle and I don't know if my concious mind could take

A
AB
ABR

BTW, my method of working this stuff is to do as follows:

1) Relax, form the BoL
2) Enter light trance
3) Use the Great Voice (i.e. internal vibration) of A
4) set it up like an overlapping loop so there is a constant abstract vibration
5) see what happens

This got interesting when I had last night:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAABBB etc

Anyway

BrotherM

[Anibis]

Know what? Take your time, but you'll find that the levels of intensity are self resolving. you might even increase the stress by not giving it a channel to flow into. ABRA ittsel form a self integrated unit of energy. If I were asked, I'd say, procede at least that far, but then again, I'd say you've clearly got a good head on your shoulders and know yourself better than I could...
-Ibisis

[BrotherM]

Thanks Ibisis, on reflection ARBA is a very logical way to go. I think what got me nervous last night was the extent of the 'altered state' that resulted from the vibration, after the experience, I had trouble coming back to normal. However, after reading what you have written, it could be looking for a place to terminate so I'll see how it goes tonight.

I have also looked at my notes and I would like to expand on the A=Christ/Osiris thing I posted first because the experience could be just as easily interpreted as A = Apophis. After thinking about how A could possibly = both Christ and Apophis it suddenly clicked that it could very easily just like each sephiroth has a night side. A is the beginning and the end of the grid and more importantly the Hexagram that you get when you superimpose one grid over another (Now I cant wait to build up to the point where I can do a full hex!). A and A inverted, creation and destruction, destruction to enable creation, the cycle of existence. Also, the insight gained was somewhat applicable to Apophis. Apophis is a nasty chap -> to us, but potentially he is achieving the same purpose of the christ via different means, like Nergal (see my sig)

Also, I realised that my experience was not one af martyrdom, it was, put simply, that pain and sacrifice in the physical world translates to achievement, growth and joy in the spiritual world. If this is the 'key' to A it is beautiful in that it is the first stepping stone on the ABRAHADABRA journey and it translates into exactly what that entire journey is about, trading physical for spiritual.

Thanks for your comments all and especially to those who pioneered the work and made it available. Please excuse me if I don't read the threads yet, I am having too much fun enoying the voyage of discovery.

BrotherM

[Anibis]

Cool, I'm glad this is so helpful to you. That's a very astute point by the way about the twofold nature of creation/destruction. It is the 'Word of Double Power' after all...I'd love to hear your continued thoughts on this journey as it unfolds!
-Ibisis

[fr.novumorganum]

I think this is generally related. So far in my work with Abrahadabra, I have been focusing on the grounding rituals and first meditations provided in this thread. (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=781)

I have found that this combo raises and circulates a lot of energy. The second step of the grounding A - H - V - H -- Tau - H has seemed to me close to a middle pillar, and in my MP ritual, I use IAO as the name of the tiphareth step. So, during the last stage of AHVH-Tau-H, on the last H, after pulling the energy back up into the center spot, I began to see/hear (not sure which) the letters IAO there. I have begun finishing that last step by vibrating IAO at the center point. This has resulted in a bright point of light appearing there during the vibration of IAO. This light has gotten stronger with each cycle. I don't know if I planted this idea in my subconscious as a result of reading this thread, or if this is a element others have encountered before, or just the Abra work continuing to refurbish my temple.

[m1thr0s]

I have for some years believed that the formula of IAO is really what Abrahadabra is expressing in a kind of "grounded" format. Consider the numeration of IAO=81 for instance (both Greek & Hebrew). And what is 81? Among other things, it is the true number of Tetragrammaton built upon the mechanics of Trigrammaton itself. It is the number of Tetragrams that can be constructed using all possible combinations of Yin, Yang and Jen line values. In magical squares it comes to occupy the Key of Luna balanced at Yesod on the Tree of Life, also called The Foundation. If you extend IAO into Banners (by adding H's to each of its letters) you get the exact equivalent of the Word of Perfection and here the numeration becomes 32, or alternately, 96 = 3 x 32. This whole mystery just goes deeper and deeper...so much so that I don't even dare get too far into it as I seem to lose my audience in so doing. But the upshot is that 418 and 81 are flip sides of the same essential coin.

If you already have an affinity for IAO, Abrahadabra is a bit of a slam-dunk I think. You're going to be running into connections so fast it's going to leave your head spinning from it all in my experience...and it's all quite real...it can all be validated. Though I have thus far only really emphasized the numerical application of the TwinStar Meditation, I should probably admit openly that the most powerful formula I have found corresponding to it is VIAOV = 93. Once you have learned to build the TwinStar via the numbers, it is also perfectly possible to build it based solely upon its geometry so that you get two interlocking VIAOV's (in pents) for every complete rotation of the TwinStar. This formula is frankly unbelievable in its scope and its power and its intelligence. Words simply cannot express the barest outline of it really. And again, this is clearly an IAO derivative... I am not a huge proponent of Gnosticism per se and the Gnostics don't own the patent on IAO anyway, though some of them seem to think they do. But Gnosis itself is quite a different matter and there is no denying the fact that IAO is vehemently aligned to Gnosis.

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Once you have learned to build the TwinStar via the numbers,
it is also perfectly possible to build it based solely upon its
geometry so that you get two interlocking VIAOV's (in pents)
for every complete rotation of the TwinStar.

This formula is frankly unbelievable in its
scope and its power and its intelligence.

Words simply cannot express the barest outline of it really.

Rocket Fuel... :p

Is this going to be detailed in installment 004 in
the Mutational Alchemy Essentials series...?

As words are insufficient, do you feel that these
formulae could be effectively animated (i.e. Flash)...?

[m1thr0s]

As words are insufficient, do you feel that these
formulae could be effectively animated (i.e. Flash)...?oh hell yes...like a ripple in a pond I am sure, but still, done with style, hell yes...

light & sound will always find a way MM...light & sound is the way for one thing!

Aum-Ha.

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

wow. ok, i'm going to have to digest that post for a bit, m1thr0s; it actually sent shivers down my spine...VIAOV=93, that was like having several blotters dropped in my morning coffee...


I can only add right now that I agree 100% with the point that the gnostics do not have a monopoly on IAO, nor does it have to imply anything gnostic. Just as YHVH does not have to mean anything in the jewish-christian system, and can be a powerful formula, so too for IAO. Its almost as if some sect found a light switch with these formulae and then claimed they were the whole electric system.

Ok light bulb in my head: all those times you speak of fighting YHVH or such, were you fighting to destroy the social construct of yaweh to free the formula of YHVH? ( i hope that made sense).

I also notice that since I've started working with abrahadabra, I can't stop thinking and speaking in electrical metaphors.

[Naomi]

I also notice that since I've started working with abrahadabra, I can't stop thinking and speaking in electrical metaphors.

That's odd, me too...in fact I just redid and re-uploaded an old painting, and renamed it "neo siva-sakti current" for no reason I know of: (http://www.thetengu.com/naomichanart/neosivasakti.htm)

Then on the Satanist board I visit (600 club) I was given a link to a video on the electric universe theory (which replaced gravity as the binding force of the universe)

Sweet!

I'm not following on why VIAOV=93 is so profound maybe someone could explain it to me...I think you probably just did though so don't bother if I'm just being slow.:dull:

[fr.novumorganum]

93
I'm sure m1thr0s can illuminate this much better, but just on the surface for my path at least it means that 418 corresponds to 93, and 418 is also the number of babylon...

just the proof of the word and the star and love, under will

93/93

[m1thr0s]

Ok light bulb in my head: all those times you speak of fighting YHVH or such, were you fighting to destroy the social construct of yaweh to free the formula of YHVH? ( i hope that made sense).quite so. for myself, this was a huge battle that even now rears its ugly head on rare occasions, only to be dashed to bits (by me) once again. My attitude is fixed: IHVH is mine...it belongs to no other. It serves me and my work or it dies...no middle ground. I am free to destroy it unilaterally as I am its godamm creator...non-negotiable...end of story** I have devised numerous ways to achieve this (I have alluded to IIII and other such formulas which are capable of kicking its ass in line in a heartbeat).

**Understand that I am speaking from my office as a Magus in this world in the process of declaring his Law...not as "m1thr0s" per se, not as any other "person". To say that I have created IHVH is to say that I have devised it from scratch to meet the demands of Mutational Alchemy itself without recourse to any other context. Anyone is free to make the same assertion based upon their own magickal workings and I would immediately understand the assertion. I realize it may confuse some who may not altogether comprehend the process of creating whole universe magickally. This cannot altogether be helped.

So what's the point? This formula has accrued inordinate amounts of crap over time and at the same time is a vital formula I cannot effectively dispense with. It serves the function of the Earth Line in Elemental Fields work. I have no choice but to reclaim it and reclaiming it requires a battle readiness unparalleled with any other formula I have ever dealt with. Whether we are faced with a rabid Jehovah or an ill-dignified Qabbalah or 10,000 split-off entropic meanderings it is far and away the most volatile magickal formula in this world. To some extent we might say we are dealing with a kind of catharsis but it is hardly anything of my own devising. The situation is what it is. This word does not originate in the Hebrew tongue but is a universal language matrix in its own right. We find references to it in Sanskrit and it is a vital Tantric Key or I would simply bury it once and for all. It is a great deal of trouble, but then, indispensable where its unique talents are required.

Naomi: VIAOV, so far as I know, was one of Crowley's discoveries but its dynamics far outdistances the man himself. It is a formula of the pentagram especially hyphenating the principle of the TwinGod suitable to all such forms as can be found all over the world. It is also a formula denoting the "lord of the horizon" according to the magnificent strength of arms it possesses. It's one of those formulas you have to both study and practise to gain a comprehensive insight but it's fast...and really really smart...and strong...and just generally at the top of its game in everything corresponding to pentagrams...it also extends to hexagrams so it is a perfect glyph of Abrahadabra in itself.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Ok the four letter word corresponds to my use of boxes, fourfold structures that represent the material world...no escape into the spiritual, only the elements. I use it to trap things in or to manifest material things. To me, it represents earth and diamonds.

The five letter word or the pentagram, represents to me the magician who has dominion over the earth and a passage to escape it...the akashic principle.

I get it now, thank you for the explanation.