The 'A:AB' and The Negative Reality

[BrotherM]

Hi All,

I thought that I would preserve the 'A' = Christ thread by starting a new one for the:

A
AB

grid. I have been battling with the initiatory experience of this and i have finally made a tiny bit of progress so I would like to post my experience and thoughts on what it all means.

I worked with the A:AB grid the same as I did with the 'A' grid. I set up a 'loop' of overlapping vibrations and kept at it until it became an automatic and meaningless vibration. The problem I had was that with the 'A' it was a very linear experience, the 'A:AB' wasn't.

The best way that I can describe the experience is substance surrounding void. Initially I found it really hard to hold the meditative state, because, I think, I am substance and my natural state is to abhore void, so the 'A:AB' grid was like embracing something that I am not and went against the grain of my being.

I couldn't understand it, so I went back to the grid and just did some mediation on the glyph and came up with this. I re-wrote the grid:

...................A
.................A .A
...............A. A. A
..............B.. X.. .B
............B. B ....B. B
..........B .B .B.B. B. B

[I can't getthis to look correct, it is meant to look like 3 upright triangles and one, empty upsidedown triangle in the middle of them where I put the X to highlight the point]

The 'X' in the above diagram represents what I was experiencing, it is what I would like to call 'Negative Reality', like the void that I experienced, it is the space that is inherent in the grid.

This is interesting to me for a few reasons. Firstly, to experience the ABRAHADABRA grid, you need to be will to accept the whole universe. Unlike the ToL that polarises 'good' and 'evil, the Grid gives you both sides of the coin at once, hence the raw feeling

Secondly, by focusing on what 'Is Not' during the pathworking, instead of 'What Is' you access a state of being that is very enlightened and elivated. I encourage everybody to try to embrace this void, it is an amazing experience (but quite hard work).

Sorry if this is old news, which I am sure it is since I am a total ABRAHADABRA noob :yes:

Many thanks,

BrotherM

[m1thr0s]

Sorry if this is old news, which I am sure it is since I am a total ABRAHADABRA noob :yes: I'm not so sure there actually is any such thing as "old news" with this stuff BrotherM. I find myself going over similar ground all the time and still coming up with entirely fresh insights. This whole dynamic of folds within folds is (and always has been) one of the really fascinating aspects of this particular magickal formula and is perhaps one of the hallmarks of any formula that parallels nature itself closely enough I think...some sort of intrinsic fractal quality built from the infinitely simple to the infinitely complex...like a heartbeat or something...does 4/4 time ever really get "old"?

Thanks for bringing your current stuff forward...I will need to think about it more to have anything useful to say.

m1thr0s

[BrotherM]

hey m1thr0s,

Do a quick exercise for me and see what happens.

1) relaxation ritual / invoke BoL
2) Internally Vibrate 'A' until it is a constant vibration that is not associated with your breathing cycle
3) Overlay a vibration of 'AB' until they both are automatic
4) Very gently feel for the void that opens up and experience your natural reactions
5) embrace the void (which does some strange things I do warn)

Although a completely different experience, this is like the Luna equivalent in that it seems to be the gateway through which we can access the true nature of the grid.

I am just amazed at how automatic this stuff is. For instance, it took me ages of learning archytpes and doing guided mediatation to get to the point where the ToL was useful and initiatory. With this, it is simple and it happens and it fits. Amazing system

BrotherM

[Fio Praeter Humanus]

Thank you for that BrotherM.

In the past I have always dismissed Abrahadabra as some of Crowley's nonsense but lately especially due to the material here I am seeing there is usefulness to the formula. Being far behind the abrahadabra curve I was unsure where exactly to start with this material. Your outline of a exercise is something that I can defiantly relate to. Thanks.

EDIT:
Small note, do you vibrate A as 'A' or 'Ah'? Not that it matters just curious...

[BrotherM]

Hi Brother :)

My 'method' is very basic and I am not at all experienced in this. I vibrate this by means of the Great Voice, that is, internally with no actual sound. They way I do it is to visualise that I am actually doing it until I can feel the vibration across my entire being. Usually to get this to work, I synchronise the vibration with my breathing (helps build the feeling) and then eventually it just continues on it's own.

That said, I think that 'Ah' as in 'Ah-Tah' would most accurately describe the feeling that I invoke. This is the same as I pronounce 'A' in IAO 'EeeeeAaahhhOooorrr'

To be honest I haven't read any of the source material in relation to ABRHADABRA and also dismissed it as Crowely BS off the bat. But the experimentation I have done so far has shown that it is very powerful.

I have only done the ABRA grid and I think it has given my magick a new lease on life.

BrotherM

[Kain]

Small note, do you vibrate A as 'A' or 'Ah'? Not that it matters just curious...Well, from a Tantric Mantra perspective I'd say that it is important to distinguish the two, especially since most of the work with mantric sound functions on a purely subtle level. In spoken language, such a difference would be quite imperceptible, although when working with the principle of Internal Sound, the difference is evident. I'd personally say that "A" works better than "Ah" in Abrahadabra, although it's just my opinion.

Kain

[fr.novumorganum]

Nero and BrotherM: I'm very excited to see such good operators posting their workings with this system. I, too, am just begining with it, and it gives me confidence to go foward and share my results as well.

I haven't experienced the negative field in the exact manner in which you described it, but I when I opened my self up to Abrahadabra, it quickly went to work finding negative spaces with my consciousness/bol, and it quickly set about to 'alter/confront' them. I will be posting a thread on this I hope over the weekend.

[MythMath]

I couldn't understand it, so I went back to the grid and just did some mediation on the glyph and came up with this. I re-wrote the grid:

...................A
.................A .A
...............A. A. A
..............B.. X.. .B
............B. B ....B. B
..........B .B .B.B. B. B


These things can really fly :p :

http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/kites/tetra/photos/mchsi_tetra_16.jpg

Tetractyl Fractal: Sierpinski Triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sierpinski_Triangle&redirect=no)

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100 Cell Tetrahedral kite - Class Project

Built by fourth graders using
tissue paper, straws and string...!

http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/kites/tetra/100cell/p16.gif

http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/kites/tetra/100cell/

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I really appreciate you all detailing your experiences here... :yes:

MM

[BrotherM]

MM, that is exactly what I was talking about, fantastic image thanks man! :D (damn enlightened 4th graders :laugh: )

Novum & Nero, I really look forward to hearing about your experiences. I am a firm believer in the objective reality, in that we are all experiencing the same thing and differences in experience are down to our ability to percieve them. What I mean is by you and others posting your experiences, we can all learn or discover new places to look.

BrotherM

[m1thr0s]

hey m1thr0s,

Do a quick exercise for me and see what happens.

1) relaxation ritual / invoke BoL
2) Internally Vibrate 'A' until it is a constant vibration that is not associated with your breathing cycle
3) Overlay a vibration of 'AB' until they both are automatic
4) Very gently feel for the void that opens up and experience your natural reactions
5) embrace the void (which does some strange things I do warn)

Although a completely different experience, this is like the Luna equivalent in that it seems to be the gateway through which we can access the true nature of the grid.

I am just amazed at how automatic this stuff is. For instance, it took me ages of learning archytpes and doing guided mediatation to get to the point where the ToL was useful and initiatory. With this, it is simple and it happens and it fits. Amazing system

BrotherM
My own experience of that descending triangle space is a little different BrotherM...I don't see it as synonymous with the Void so much as the "Hadit Point" as referenced in the Book of the Law. There are certain parallels however in the sense that the Hadit Point is ultimately incomprehensable, very similar to the Tao Teh point in this respect. But the inverted triangle itself is structured space whose foundation rests in Macrocosm and whose movement flows in the direction of Microcosm, so it is in all respects very different than the ascending Triangle whose properties are the reverse.

It is not my habit to really challenge people's areas of personal investigation however unless I am really certain of my facts and happen to detect a very serious omission of some kind. I would suggest to you that just because the space is "empty" does not necessarily imply the Void per se. In this case it is "negative space" because you have left it as such and yet it's structure is clearly implied. For me this would not qualify it as "empty" at all...but simply unembellished...like a pure canvass awaiting some kind of action...

What is exciting to me in this is that you are getting what would appear to be a very dynamic energy reaction in very little time. I have to tell you that this is quickly becoming one of the real signatures of this system in general. I always suspected as much but have needed the independant work of others to really confirm this. It is not important that all of this experience be identical in nature since we are all poised a little differently at any one place in time and typically looking for slightly different things on the basis of where we are at and where we have been. I really believe it all winds up resolving at the same essential place in the end...how we get there will vary...the things we explore and resolve in their exact orders will almost always be unique in themselves...

steady as she goes...

m1thr0s

[BrotherM]

Hi m1thr0s,

Thanks for your comments, I agree with what you are saying and it re-iterates one of my previous points that the reality is objective but our experience of it is unique (and that is not bad, it is just a function of our different positions in the process of living and dying).

I also think that 'Void' isn't an accurate term, neigther would be 'Abyss' or 'Space' but 'Negative Reality' I still feel is quite accurate. I will think on your description as a blank canvass and that it is this way because I have left it so. To be honest, I am just experiencing it as it appears to me and am by no means in a position to start to work with the system actively. I actually have no idea how I would do anything in this inverted triangle as it is hard enough just to get my conciousness to that state, let alone excercise some control.

Steady as she goes for sure my man. As anybody who is experienced in the Occult knows, there is a fine line between actual spiritual experience and mental masturbation. Keeping it real in a process that is mostly unreal is to me the hardest part.

BrotherM