Abrahadabra: magickal diaries

[fr.novumorganum]

Hi all. I’m starting this thread as a place to post experiences and observations from working with some aspect of the Abrahadabra formula. While there are a number of experts here, and you can find excellent posts from them throughout the site, I would like this thread to be for operators who have experience with magick, but who are just starting to work with Abrahadabra, to post and share our questions, our operations, and our experiences. I also hope that our more experienced members will join in the discussion and provide some friendly feedback and guidance.

Many people may be coming to the site and encountering the Abrahadabra system for the first time, or perhaps knew of the importance of the formula, but never knew how to work with it systematically before (like me!). This material can be intimidating to jump into at first, so I hope a thread like this will encourage fellow travelers to join us in this exploration.

As a personal disclaimer, although I am a decently accomplished Magickain, I have only been working with Abrahadabra in practice for a little over a month (at the time of this post). My enthusiasm for this system comes from the very potent results I have found even in that brief period. In my own experience I can say that putting in the effort brings dividends. I hope that others take the same plunge I did.

[Naomi]

Yes - what do these meditations accomplish?

I read a lot of feedback that seems positive with no clear explanation on why the person was impressed. Unless, like me, they are just feeling the general charge the symbol puts off.

My enthusiasm for this system comes from the very potent results I have found even in that brief period.

What are these results?

[m1thr0s]

Yes - what do these meditations accomplish?I think it's time to do an article on the benefits of meditation in general, since to answer this kind of question you really have to also be able to answer that one. One of the things to bear in mind is that people are not born knowing how to meditate. meditation is a learned skill and there are all kinds of ways to do it poorly. The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali define the benefits of successful meditation in 3 basic categories:

Dharana (focused concentration)
Dhyana (uninterrupted consciousness, or true meditation)
Samaddhi (superconsciousness, or true self-awareness)

The various models we employ to achieve these aims are not all necessarily created equal. If our models have become too encrusted with excessive verbage...too bloat with excess baggage and internal incongruities, we may find that they do not altogether serve the aims they were originally intended to serve. They become an end in themselves which is ultimately pointless.

Abrahadabra is unique among western models of attainment in its ability to cut through the crap and return us to these original objectives with astonishing agility and accelerated force and clarity. It is essentially a powerful concentration engine whose logic is laid down at the level of line and number, requiring very little explanation once one begins to actually work within its guidelines. It shares many things in common with pyramids in general, so we get a dynamic combination of super-symmetry and energy concentration going on which tends to accelerate the resolution of physical restrictions almost effortlessly. It is this enhanced efficiency I think that is its greatest appeal, but along with that we seem to also be getting a general revision of many of the cornerstone principles of qabbalah itself. It is systematically rewriting many of the most fundamental tenets of magickal philosophy itself.

So that is a personal reflection and I will leave it at that for the moment. One of the most obvious attributes of Abrahadabra is that it is very readily adapted to the language of *stars*, so that it seems to have a built-in ability to facilitate that particular knowledge & conversation...

m1thr0s

[imagenerator]

I have worked with magickal systems for quite some time, but I don't consider myself an accomplished magickan, particularly because my sense of ritual has been quite weak during my 7 years of study. In retrospect, sometimes it seems like it has been more of a fetish than a practice, but in due time...

So, I began actively engaging the First Meditation last summer occasionally, but it took a while for me to really start to feel the energy surges it brought on. It was almost like I was acting on faith rather than will. The intention behind the meditation has been pretty general something like starhood, although I've begun to use with more specific intentions. Since around the Winter Solstice, I've been working on a series of hand gestures to go along with the First Meditation. I found I was getting kind of bunged up with trying to determine and effective way to do so, and so last weekend I put down the hands and just hammered it out with my mind, and that really helped me feel it more. As well, I noticed that my eyeballs were moving to look at the respective positions (sometime eyes were open, other times closed). Looking to the nodes really made a difference in the sense of light-flow.

I still want to find something that works with the hands, but I haven't done a lot of moving energy work, aside from on the dance floor, and there it's a bit more subliminal. My biggest uncertainty in it all: how do I hold my fingers ? If I ever figure out something that works nicely for me, I'll do my best convey.

So, I've done the meditation seated, standing, and laying in the "dead corpse pose". Standing allows the hands to direct. Seated I find it easier to "handle it". And laying down, it's harder to get into, but it allows me to be a bit more harmonious with the crowd while preparing for a yoga class.

More recently, I've begun to use the Lo Shu as a meditation tool. I haven't quite got the hang of that Unicursal Ogodad, I'm still getting mixed up due to lack of practice. But since I recently constructed a sigil using the Square of Saturn, I've been delving into the elemental nature of the Lo Shu more deeply. Particularly, I did a pathworking where I turned my attention to each one of the elements on each succesive day. I got quite frustrated with myself for breaking my commitment to abstain from "substances" during it, so I'm going to have to make another run of it. Possibly 8. It is my intention to share my personal understanding of the elements in the context of the Tai Hsuan Ching at a later time.

So, there you have it, a bit more personal approach to where I'm at with all of this. Thanks for opening up the space fr.novumorganum.

[m1thr0s]

so many gaps yet to be filled imagenerator...I never actually expected to be assuming any kind of teaching role...I sometimes think my own shit would drive me freaking nuts if I didn't already know the background...don't hesitate to ask (as you have done)...it actually helps with getting the whole thing out more effectively so insightful questions do make a positive difference and I do not fear them and they don't piss me off...

you can always PM me as well...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Ok, good, I see. So the primary goal for the Abrahadabra meditations is to get "back to basics"?

That seems to be very Satanic to me.

Can you sum up the entirety of the system (is it a system?) in one sentence?

Those dragons at the top seem to have a life of their own and have been walking around my space making weird noises and sniffing around. (it's ok, I like them) Are they part of the system (acting as a consciousness vehicle) or have they been animated as forum guardians?

[m1thr0s]

Mushushu Dragons, to be precise. One of Ningishzidda's forms, particularly in his role as Lord of the Underworld. As the TwinSerpent is also a Ng form, it seemed prudent to place the Dragons in that relationship as well. They seem perfectly happy with the arrangement and also seem to enjoy being linked to Abrahadabra. In one sense this is a way of testing my own metal. I feel like if my work can stand up under their scrutiny I must not be doing things too badly since Ng is perfectly capable of trashing bullshit in a heartbeat...

But this has not occurred which has me thinking...ahh...good...we have ignition!

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Ok good I am going to try working the model indepth and see what I get, then.

[Radiant Star]

I would like this thread to be for operators who have experience with magick, but who are just starting to work with Abrahadabra, to…share… our experiences.

At first I thought my involvement in Abrahadabra was entirely coincidental; I joined the forums because I was interested in things to do with morphogenetic fields and it looked like the kind of place where this might be discussed. Whilst here, I took a look at the Abrahadabra and Twin Star threads and went off to investigate the actual website; this was last year and I don’t remember exactly what the first spark of interest was, only that I recognized the Twin Star triangle as a map of something I had experienced; since I was not able to call that experience at will, then I thought somehow that if I looked into this idea, it would provide clues on how to return to that state, because somehow it seemed that my path as a magickian was ultimately to reach that goal and possibly either to be able to be in that place at will or even sit there permanently whilst in my human state.

Very quickly, the Twin Star triangle became ‘mine’ – it could have been designed and built especially for me – I am not sure I understand why but soon I had taped one to my wall and months later, it is still there, a part of me and a part of my life experience.

I have built three dimensional Twin Stars in my mind and crawled around in them; I have attempted to meditate at night time and fallen asleep so many times, usually before I have reached point ten. I have built a ritual around it and played with its numbers. I have sat in classrooms and doodled it. In one of my darkest hours, I gazed upon it and fell into a peaceful state.

I have cast my eyes over qabalah; into orders and into rituals of all kinds but it is only the Twin Star triangle that has captured me.

I see the balance of the male and female in it; I see the balance of dark and light.

To me, it is complete, it holds everything within it and I believe that everything can ultimately be explained by it.

I experience it.

It is ‘mine’.

We belong together.

[fr.novumorganum]

I have begun working with the thelmic version outlined here (http://www.abrahadabra.com/coremeditation.numbers.htm). I cant believe I missed this earlier. Well, I guess that's what I get for missing staff meetings:cool:.

My work schedule is as follows:

LBRP
Twin-Star and Grounding/thelmic formulae
sckrying flower of life twin star
MP
LBRP.

I'll try and post any interesting findings; right now I'm noticing a reinforced, almost 'pushy' sense of will throughout the day. Get the same great energy buzz as previous workings.

[Naomi]

Thanks for posting that Fr. Novum it helps looking at what other people are doing.

I still don't get how to do the twinstar perfectly, I just sort of mess around with it - there used to be an animated walkthrough on the book of mirrors but m1thr0s seems to have gone and moved it around in the recent overhaul.

I don't suppose you could give me a quick explanation?

What is MP?

Oh - and those dragons are not neutered.

[fr.novumorganum]

hey NC, I'm glad we all have this place to share our meanderings...

MP is the middle pillar

well, when I do the meditations I vibrate the word (either abrahadabra, the word of perfection, or 93) asI creatively project and visualize 'drawing' ( i think m1 calls the weaving) the twinstar according the the number system in the mirror. right now i am doing this externally in the mirror (literally tracing with my eye in the mirror); when I memorize more of it, i will do it internally.

when i weave/draw the lines, i do it the same as if i was imagining drawing the pentagram and circle in a LBRP. I always imagined it as brilliant white/blue light shooting out of my wand/finger/ankh as i traced the figure, and it stayed there, much like i was spray painting. after a while with the LBRP and such, i could 'see' the pents burned into the air before me...

right now, when I skry the flower of life twin star, i'm acting more passive, just letting the energy dance and flow in the lines, and pay attention to what forms out of that. lately the tiny star at the bottom middle of the twin star has been asking for a lot of attention. not sure why yet. I think m1 called that guy the egg or something lol

[Naomi]

hey NC, I'm glad we all have this place to share our meanderings...

Yeah I'm happy about the internet.

MP is the middle pillar

Oh yeah I've done that once, it's a cool ritual. I found it online but I usually never try anything more than once, repetition of personal non evocative ritual meditation is something new for me lately with the Abrahadabra work. I guess that comes down to me being so social.


well, when I do the meditations I vibrate the word (either abrahadabra, the word of perfection, or 93) asI creatively project and visualize 'drawing' ( i think m1 calls the weaving) the twinstar according the the number system in the mirror. right now i am doing this externally in the mirror (literally tracing with my eye in the mirror); when I memorize more of it, i will do it internally.

when i weave/draw the lines, i do it the same as if i was imagining drawing the pentagram and circle in a LBRP. I always imagined it as brilliant white/blue light shooting out of my wand/finger/ankh as i traced the figure, and it stayed there, much like i was spray painting. after a while with the LBRP and such, i could 'see' the pents burned into the air before me...

Cool - actually I have a problem remembering how to trace the twinstar, I keep repeating lines, it's more confusing than the pentagram to me, I end up getting caught in loops. I certainly havn't memorized its shape either I guess I just have to spend more time on it.

right now, when I skry the flower of life twin star, i'm acting more passive, just letting the energy dance and flow in the lines, and pay attention to what forms out of that. lately the tiny star at the bottom middle of the twin star has been asking for a lot of attention. not sure why yet. I think m1 called that guy the egg or something lol

Whatever could you mean fr. novum?

[m1thr0s]

Cool - actually I have a problem remembering how to trace the twinstar, I keep repeating lines, it's more confusing than the pentagram to me, I end up getting caught in loops. I certainly havn't memorized its shape either I guess I just have to spend more time on it.Interesting. It sounds like you may not have done too much actual scrying (weaving) work, since the TwinStar isn't really all that complicated...

Which is all ok...it just tells me something I need to understand. See, I'm a natural scryer...I was scrying shit in the air when I was maybe 9 years old and just never stopped. When I couldn't get away with doing it in public I turned to doodling. That's how persistent I was with the whole form...I would find ways to scry that didn't look I was scrying...that's how this whole art form of mine got started...nearly everything I draw is a scrying tool...or at least can be one.

So what that means to you (or other people who might try to learn from me) is that I've got a LOT of time in doing this stuff and I can tell you things about scrying that possibly no one else could...subtle things...how to train your eyes...how to maximize breath...how to hold yourself and why (proper asana etc) when to use your hands vs when to employ a wand of some kind...how to brace for an attack...how to absorb and consume an attack...hundreds and hundreds of little things nobody has probably ever committed to a book.

But what I need to get through my head is that this is apparently more unusual of a skill than I have clearly imagined. It's not your fault...there's stuff you can do very well that I would do completely stupidly...not having done them before...or not very much etc...

I can only think of one really good solution to that though...these things need to be taught live...some things can be conveyed at a distance...some things can't.

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Well, Im sure many would be looking forward to a basic article/thread/discussion on scrying from you m1thr0s- I would; to be honest I have still problems with some of the occult terminology itself- much of it describes what Im doing anyway but some of it is explained differently by various authors etc...

naomi have you scanned the links on the main page? you maybe have but I must confess that I myself at first only used the threads on the forum for learning about the twinstar and had forgotten all about the articles eg here etc:
http://www.abrahadabra.com/tableofcontents.htm
(esp. chapter 3 and the section "general" is interesting! for starters)

http://www.abrahadabra.com/first.triangle.htm

[Naomi]

Interesting. It sounds like you may not have done too much actual scrying (weaving) work, since the TwinStar isn't really all that complicated...

Which is all ok...it just tells me something I need to understand. See, I'm a natural scryer...I was scrying shit in the air when I was maybe 9 years old and just never stopped. When I couldn't get away with doing it in public I turned to doodling. That's how persistent I was with the whole form...I would find ways to scry that didn't look I was scrying...that's how this whole art form of mine got started...nearly everything I draw is a scrying tool...or at least can be one.

No not at all. I think we actually use the term weaving quite differently too. My idea of weaving is taking threads of reality, pulling them up through the planes and letting the 'hand of god' (ie planetary movement or even the wheel above the great void) slam the accumulated 'karma' back into the grid - it's inviolable. Lately this includes hijacking networks of humans too and plugging them into the Abrahadabra construct as well.


So what that means to you (or other people who might try to learn from me) is that I've got a LOT of time in doing this stuff and I can tell you things about scrying that possibly no one else could...subtle things...how to train your eyes...how to maximize breath...how to hold yourself and why (proper asana etc) when to use your hands vs when to employ a wand of some kind...how to brace for an attack...how to absorb and consume an attack...hundreds and hundreds of little things nobody has probably ever committed to a book.

But what I need to get through my head is that this is apparently more unusual of a skill than I have clearly imagined. It's not your fault...there's stuff you can do very well that I would do completely stupidly...not having done them before...or not very much etc...Ah that all sounds endlessly fascinating m1thr0s, you're right - you can't find any of that at the bookstore. I'm sure your experience is incalculably valuable. As far as I know even Bardon doesn't address any of those issues though his books are very thorough at covering evocation and enviroment awareness, but the manner of approaching reality is hardly covered, in fact I had to get most of my good extra techniques from Bob Hendricks off of Occultforums, everything else came from my own development and not books - video games maybe.

[Naomi]

Well, Im sure many would be looking forward to a basic article/thread/discussion on scrying from you m1thr0s- I would; to be honest I have still problems with some of the occult terminology itself- much of it describes what Im doing anyway but some of it is explained differently by various authors etc...

naomi have you scanned the links on the main page? you maybe have but I must confess that I myself at first only used the threads on the forum for learning about the twinstar and had forgotten all about the articles eg here etc:
http://www.abrahadabra.com/tableofcontents.htm
(esp. chapter 3 and the section "general" is interesting! for starters)

http://www.abrahadabra.com/first.triangle.htm

Yeah I've been going over it pretty frequently lately, mostly the Tree Fields and the Twin Star, they all give pretty wild headtrips though. Lol once you understand what they are for - not just pretty geometry. :confused:

I had forgotten the first triangle one - thanks I'll have to re-read it.

[m1thr0s]

No not at all. I think we actually use the term weaving quite differently too. My idea of weaving is taking threads of reality, pulling them up through the planes and letting the 'hand of god' (ie planetary movement or even the wheel above the great void) slam the accumulated 'karma' back into the grid - it's inviolable. Lately this includes hijacking networks of humans too and plugging them into the Abrahadabra construct as well. sure...that's a kind of weaving too, although more properly it's networking...that's like what the priestess does in Thoth...that's pretty much her job, or a big part of it. But the word Tantra itself (which means weaving in Sanskrit) is really all about channelling consciousness energy within the Body of Light system. It's a technical term that pertains to a certain kind of technical operation.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Ok after I read this I tried my hand at the P'an Ku mirror again, and instead of just wallowing in it (lol) I traced along the lines very carefully and up and down the layers of the hexagrams systematically - guess what, it worked! Too good! I have to go sit in the shower now!

But thanks that's helpful! That's a devilishly important detail I think to mention....

[fr.novumorganum]

Ok, so I think for myself at least, using the thelmic mantra is a more efficient choice.

Something interesting today; if you've done the flaming sword meditation, or a classic middle pillar, you're probably familiar with when the sephira 'activate' or to it it seems the fill out. That happened today for the first time with the core mediation for the first time. I recognized the phenomenon, but it felt different. They felt more radiant, more generative. Once again, not sure of how to properly describe this yet. I look foward to tonight's working; and I think I'm going to see if I can tap into those little sephira reactors over the course of the day.

[m1thr0s]

Many of the standard magickal formulas we find lying about are really just exemplary examples that have been discovered over time. None of them are necessarily mandatory but understanding their examples pretty much is. I read a ridiculous little complaint about Abrahadabra some years ago that really made me laugh because the author clearly didn't get this very critical piece of information and was going on and on about why some other formula he had discovered was totally superior to Abrahadabra...

For Xst sake, man, get a grip I thought...stop whining about the damn thing and use it! There are no freaking Abrahadabra police going to come around and bust you for failing to use the formula as proscribed by law or whatever...

I like to use Ningishzidda in place of Abrahadabra, since, if we count the *sh* as a Shin, it also yields 11 letters and its notaricon happens to add to 418...plus I like the archetypal imagery it elicits etc... Once you have assimilated the principles involved...I don't think there are any limits as to what you might be able to use...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

Sorry I haven't posted in this thread in a while...

To refresh, the majority of my work with the system has been mediation and skrying. At the end of the core meditation process, after I run through both circuits, I tend to skry either the abra grid over the flower of life, or the tree over the grid image.

Lately, the skrying has been revolving around images of sephira 1 and 10 merging together (the 10 rises up to the one) and then this tends to morph into an image of 'the crowned and conquering child' with words and images of 'the upper and lower kingdoms rejoined', and a double crown, in a received kind of way...bubbling up. (I never know how to describe that experience).

I've also been getting the 'sense' that i should devise a ritual around that terminology/ imagery.

[m1thr0s]

I've also been getting the 'sense' that i should devise a ritual around that terminology/ imagery.that's on account of the Heirophants I think. I have experienced this impulse many times and also acted upon it in a few instances (very successfully), even though the weaving work is a ritual practice of its own kind...

But there is some kind of connection between Abrahadabra and the Heirophants (yes, the real ones...rites of Eleusis and all that). I have no way to know why that would be since we don't really know how old Abrahadabra is. But there are also several references to this in Liber Al...so one way or another there seems to be this connection going on.

In any case, having a powerful matrix that is in absolutely no danger of being diluted or misinterpreted in itself makes for a very tempting platform around which to construct various journeys or ritualized enactments...At one point I had even considered that this might be the best long-range artistic application of the physics. I haven't rejected that notion but it did hit a bit of a snag since almost nobody knows anything about it...

working on that of course...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

How 'bout both/and instead of either/or...?

[m1thr0s]

well you're sort of preachin' to the choir on that score MM...it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to limit your options for no good reason...a good (reality) model can go anywhere...engage anything...adapt to any situation, etc...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

that's on account of the Heirophants I think. I have experienced this impulse many times and also acted upon it in a few instances (very successfully), even though the weaving work is a ritual practice of its own kind...

But there is some kind of connection between Abrahadabra and the Heirophants (yes, the real ones...rites of Eleusis and all that). I have no way to know why that would be since we don't really know how old Abrahadabra is. But there are also several references to this in Liber Al...so one way or another there seems to be this connection going on.

In any case, having a powerful matrix that is in absolutely no danger of being diluted or misinterpreted in itself makes for a very tempting platform around which to construct various journeys or ritualized enactments...At one point I had even considered that this might be the best long-range artistic application of the physics. I haven't rejected that notion but it did hit a bit of a snag since almost nobody knows anything about it...

working on that of course...

m1thr0s

interesting about the Heirophants...this grid is one of the most talkative things i've ever run into;)

On a more serious note, yeah I could really see this being the backbone of powerful ritual technology. It seems to connect so directly into currents of power so efficiently.

[m1thr0s]

On a more serious note, yeah I could really see this being the backbone of powerful ritual technology. It seems to connect so directly into currents of power so efficiently.almost too efficiently fr.novum...as I think you may have experienced yourself to some extent. One of the advantages of ritual is the ability to set things up a little more poetically, and yes, a little dummied-down in some respects as well...

otherwise this thing often seems to have a great deal in common with a nuclear fusion reactor...lol...

useful in many cases but perhaps a bit much in others...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

Note: The following version of my magickal journal entries from the past several days. It is an attempt by me to put into a rational form the information/insights I have been receiving, for the sake of making sense for myself, to share with fellow travelers, and to put under the lens of skepticism.

As you know already, these experiences can be hard to put into words. I can say I had a period of multi-dimensional, holistic mind, like tripping, but much more practical. My blockages about internal/external and other dualisms were blown away, and a new paradigm remained. During this peak experience I knew I had the opportunity to make my universe my own, to set my Will as my Law. I make no claim about crossing the abyss or anything like that. Instead, at the moment, I think the result of this ‘working period’ was to be able to experience and conceive of ‘crossing the abyss’ in a completely different way. The tree model should not be considered THE way, just one way, and perhaps not even the most efficient model of ourselves and the universe. This result came from a combination of three things:
1. the core abrahadabra meditations
2. the ritual I designed as per the ‘instructions’ I received as a result of 1. (1) (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=29029&postcount=22)

3. reading and meditating on many of the discussions on this board, specifically the following quote, which serves as the locus for this entry. It has been my persistent impression for many years that this is where one's magickal "Law" is ultimately declared...right at the Seat of Knowledge itself. This is where Logos is properly enthroned, since what lies beyond is a whole other kind of Mind anyway...declaring a standard at Daath...establishing ones Rule at that level...is all there really is to bridging that Divide - potentially- forever..m1thr0s (2) (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=2260)

The eye in the pyramid represents everything you already are but don’t know yet. We’re not reaching attainment/enlightenment, were remembering it.

beyond daath is a whole other kind of mind m1thr0s

Daath is traditionally located at the throat, but abrahadabra locates Daath at the same point as Kether, at the crown, and therefore fully located in the head proper, thus abrahadabra does raise Daath to a higher level than the tree, unifying it with Kether, layering it over Kether, if you will. This is a glyph of the solving of dualism. Daath below the abyss, on the tree, is the throat, but what if we consider it at the back of the neck, where the neck joins the base of the head? Here are located the hind brain, the lower brain functions, the seat of first and second circuit consciousness (Leary, Wilson model). Thus Daath can be attributed to the lower, primitive brain and the primitive 1st and 2nd circuit. The lower brain is the pure animal brain, impure desire, addiction, ID, obsession, compulsion, fear, sloth, greed, fight or flight, all the demons.

The Abrahadabra Grid raises Daath to the crown point. Kether is generally considered right above the head, but what if it is considered as touching the top of the head? Here is located the cerebral cortex, seat of all the higher brain functions, seat of reason, imagination, consciousness itself. Thus abrahadabra, by raising Daath to Kether, unites the lower and higher brain; it establishes a calibration between the lower and higher circuits of consciousness. We have the uniting of lower and higher mind in unity. The unity of animal physical mind with intelligent consciousness mind provides an engine for external work and results. The raised model of abrahadabra opens up an entire new map for, and a new way of thinking about, crossing the abyss. Chronozon must be reconsidered as well.
The doctrine of Choronzon (=333) put forward by John Dee is actually something of a philosophical milestone in the whole discussion of Evil...although you have to analyze it closely to get a sense of everything that is going on here.

In this scenario, "the devil" springs forth as a shadow part of Binah, the Great Mother in the Supernals and is called the Fallen King, or the Aborted Birth of Binah in other instances. What we have here is a definition of evil that is defined as it corresponds to a natural set of standards relevant to the human condition. Choronzon represents that which is either unwilling or unable to adhere to the standard of Will and thus falls into a condition called Dispersion...(or perpetual disassociation is another way to look at it). He nevertheless attains to a kind of universality in the sense that we all share this same potential fate...any of us is capable of falling short of our own internal standards...of failing to adhere to our own True Natures etc. m1thr0s (3) (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=27512&postcount=13)
In The tree structure with Daath at the base of the supernals, the abyss is a void to cross, which creates an entire set of metaphors to try and comprehend and work through this experience. But are these metaphors the most efficient maps or expressions of this crucial issue? Raising Daath to the apex of the Pyramid diminished the metaphor of an abyss to cross (or fall into) and raises the metaphor of a problem or construction to solve. There isn’t anything to cross; there is something to fit together, something to calibrate.

Resolving the conjunction is an issue of Will and Balance (Law), or better put of Will and Law.
The result of Law and Will is a forged unity.
Unity is Love.
Do What Thou Wilt Shall be the Whole of the Law.
Love is the Law; Love under Will.
Law (3 letters) + Will (4) + Love (4) = 11And Chronozon. The tree structure engenders the metaphor of the great demonic monster to overcome. I am not implying that Chronozon isn’t to be quelled. But the metaphors of the tree crossing disarms the magickian before the battle, because we must imagine this great other to overcome (I’m sure some have materialized this force at points). But I think this metaphor might impair many people’s development. If we are looking for this Boss Demon, we miss where he really raises his ill-begotten head. Chronozon is dispersion; is instability, is un-creative chaos, it is the Un-Lawful, Un-Willful, Un-Love mind. In the model of resolving Daath layered over Kether these images are the battle; instability of model, dispersion instead of unity, a collision instead of copulation. If we are looking for the boss demon metaphor our eyes will be averted while he rips our foundations to shreds and we find ourselves lost in the desert wondering “why/how did this happen to me” (giving up agency=will) and saying “ah the hell with it who cares” (thus giving up Law). A black brother. (giving up love) It is not a crossing but a merging, and we are left with an holistic, holographic model.

[fr.novumorganum]

This is the first coherent draft I was able to put together after this working. After the working its been about 2 solid weeks of, well, being plugged into the current all the time. Its been a weird experience, but very positive.

I plan to post more as I work through my journal.

Please post any comments, criticism, critiques. rational skepticism and debate are crucial to our work. plus it will keep me grounded.

[MythMath]

In The tree structure with Daath at the base of the supernals, the abyss is a void to cross, which creates an entire set of metaphors to try and comprehend and work through this experience. But are these metaphors the most efficient maps or expressions of this crucial issue? Raising Daath to the apex of the Pyramid diminished the metaphor of an abyss to cross (or fall into) and raises the metaphor of a problem or construction to solve. There isn’t anything to cross; there is something to fit together, something to calibrate.This is illustrated clearly in the Mirror below,
with Jen (represented by the grey circle/sphere)
positioned at Daath, and Spirit/Love at the Third Eye...

Yoni and Lingam uniting consciously betwixt and between the Great Mom & Pop,
while literally bridging the abyss 'separating' Daath and Kether...

This places Human Energy centered around Daath,
enveloping this Seat of Knowledge,
with its field of influence extending to, and including, Kether...

Get you some Pineal Lovin'... :p

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/AscendingTriangleswith418ToLcopy.jpg

[fr.novumorganum]

cool MM

[m1thr0s]

One of the things I find infinitely fascinating about the Abra system with respect to Daath is that no attempt is actually made to relocate Daath itself...rather it is the "inertia" of Daath that is brought into perfect alliance with Crown. It has the general effect of "flushing" Daath of its excesses...yet we know from the map itself that Daath remains in its original position along the Tree of Life, which is always an anatomical subset of Abrahadabra...so Daath itself is not actually relocated per se...it is *purged*, and purged on such a regular basis that every time we complete a cycle in the TwinStar this purging occurs...almost without effort yet there can be no denying that this linking of Daath to Crown (at the level of inertia) is one of the especially dynamic aspects of the TwinStar action.

So this Division aspect of Daath is treated with a remarkable ingenuity. If we were to approach the whole thing from a more combative point of view, we might be lulled into thinking that Daath should somehow be confronted head on and attacked as we might attack an enemy. Abrahadabra says no...the way to defeat it is through *indirection*...not direct assault at all. It presents us with a sort of *tough love* approach to the issue where the objective is to stabilize and maintain it on a regular basis...but not make any attempt to defeat it per se. It's more a matter of asserting perfect self-control.

I just find that infinitely fascinating...so we can have our Daath and eat it too! lol...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

do you think this 'purging' is connected to the accelerated karma that seems to be a property of working the system?

[m1thr0s]

do you think this 'purging' is connected to the accelerated karma that seems to be a property of working the system?who knows...I really don't have all the answers, but in general we are looking at an accelerating engine on pretty much all levels...it even feels like a particle accelerator (of some kind) in application.

I think that when you are dealing with a physics that actually applies to human beings on a very visceral level, you would have to expect that being exposed to it would set certain balls in motion. People can resist that all they want to...we do have those choices...but if the thing itself is for real and if the reality it is conveying is the star body itself...well...I just can't see any way it's not going to impact people who really don't have that many options otherwise. It's not like we have half a dozen ways to actualize anatomical stardom on tap.

Now obviously I do think that's what is going on here but I'm studying this thing just like everybody else and I have to acknowledge that I could be wrong...but thus far, I couldn't tell you why I was wrong if I had to. And the longer things remain that way...the less likely it seems to be. It's actually one of the reasons I decided to go public...I'm flat out of ways to debunk it personally...and I honestly have tried. If it's bullshit, I'd rather know that and move on...I'm not getting rich off of this deal so it's not like I have that much to protect on a personal level.

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Money sucks... :yes:

I'm rich, bitch... :p

(I have no money)

[m1thr0s]

oooh-kay then...moving right along...:cool:

I shouldn't even drag money into it...it's too explosive a topic all by itself...

This whole Abra model is attacking economics on a whole other plane anyway...an economy of action in which it appears to be stunningly wealthy beyond any adequate description really...

So there is nothing to bemoan there and money...whatever the hell that represents...will sooner or later follow suit as well...

it's basically inevitable. money just happens once enough people get motivated to do something...

m1

[MythMath]

Uhh, that's what I meant... :laugh:

[DocHolliday]

Thanks to Fr. Novumorganum for pointing me in this direction. The placement of Da'ath in the space normally reserved for Kether is something quite common. The Gaon of Vilna (known colloquially as the Gra) has an arrangement of the Sephiroth which places Tiphereth where Da'ath is normally located, shifting the entire middle pillar upwards (with Yesod where Tiphereth usually is and Malchuth where Yesod usually is). Now, if we take a look at Biblical cosmology, filtered through Qabbalistic eyes, Kether should actually be out of the picture. En Soph Or has no place at all in the model, as it should either be associated with En Soph itself (Orthodox view) or that En Soph Or is fallen into the depths of Da'ath (LHP view).

Either way, Da'ath, or the depths (Heb: tehomoth, a cognate of Tiamat) is the primal creation from which the other 9 Sephiroth spring.

[m1thr0s]

that is interesting, since Daath and Ain Soph Aur share the same arc, just looking at it from the geometry alone. The Tree and the Tetractys yield two very different modes of manifestation, yet both things seem to be true at any measurable point in space or time. I think we really need the Tetractys to put the Tree in a proper perspective and its ability to reposition Daath is just one of the things that it brings to the whole equation. Moreover we seem to get a dynamic synergism that could not be clearly observed without the Tetractys being consciously included in the picture.

m1

[Naomi]

I don't like using the tree without the tetractys either, and sometimes when I look at the P'an Ku mirror with the hexagrams placed over pathways I get the distinct repetitive feeling that there is something wrong with the Sephiroth as they stand in traditional kabbala, like there are some kinds missing or that they are not arranged appropriately. I can't shake the feeling and although I havn't figureed it out yet I know I could probably discover why if I looked into it. (I don't have time currently)

Doc what are your gut feelings regarding the tree of life and the nightside tree, since you are a Satanist I imagine you are familiar with it, would you place this within the tetractys or in another triangle opposite (below, as roots for instance) it's one of the things I'm curious about since I do a lot of work with Hell and Heaven as dynamic models of reality. ( i like the donut shaped universe theory fyi)

Ok good I am going to try working the model indepth and see what I get, then.


So how did that work out for you?

[DocHolliday]

Doc what are your gut feelings regarding the tree of life and the nightside tree, since you are a Satanist I imagine you are familiar with it, would you place this within the tetractys or in another triangle opposite (below, as roots for instance) it's one of the things I'm curious about since I do a lot of work with Hell and Heaven as dynamic models of reality. ( i like the donut shaped universe theory fyi)

This is one area where I break from the common theme in adversarial thought. I do not believe in a tree of death at all. In my mind, it bespeaks of ignorance surrounding the nature of the Qelippoth. Too many treat them as demonic in the classical Christian sense, or as being "fallen Sephiroth." I have found this to be untrue in my own work and exploration. The Sephiroth and Qelippoth are superimposed upon each other. To invert a Sephirah is not to demonify it, but to shift the focus from alleo-centric to psyche-centric.

Both Sammael and Adam imparted their seed into Eve, and thus our image contains the seeds of both. Invert the triangle, but super-impose it upon the existing one, and the secret of Solomon's Shield is revealed.