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Okazaki Castle
03-29-2007, 05:08 PM
Antalcidas: When asked how one might best please people, he said: "By talking to them very pleasantly while dealing with them most helpfully."

Demaratus: After Orontes had conversed with him rather rudely and somebody remarked: 'Demaratus, Orontes has treated you rudely', Demaratus replied: " He has done me no wrong, since it's those who converse to curry favour who do harm, not those who show their enmity."

Eudamidas: When another person was citing their glorious deeds against the Persians and strongly advocating war, he said: "In my opinion you are not aware that this proposition is the same as taking on fifty wolves after overcoming a thousand sheep."

Eudamidas again: When someone said that he was a wise man and one of those who search for virtue, Eudamidas said: "And when will he make use of it if he is still searching for it?"

Thearidas: As Thearidas was honing his sword and was asked if it was sharp, he said: "Sharper than slander."

Callicratidas: When asked what sort of men the Ionians were, he said: "Good slaves, but worthless as free men."

Lysander: When a Persian inquired what type of constitution met with his greatest approval, he said: "Whichever gives brave men and cowards their due."

Pausanias: When amongst the spoils some people were amazed at the extravagance of the Persians' clothing, he said: "Better for them to be men of great worth rather than to have possessions of great worth."

When an Ionian woman was priding herself on one of the tapestries she had made (which was indeed of great value), a Spartan woman showed off her four most dutiful sons and said they were the kind of thing a noble and good woman ought to produce, and should boast of them and take pride in them.

When a Spartan woman heard that her son had died fighting bravely in the battle-line, she said "Yes, you were mine." But when she heard that her other son was still alive as a result of his cowardice she said: "No, you were not mine."

When another woman heard that her son was behaving badly abroad, she wrote to him: You've acquired a bad reputation. Either shalke this off or cease to exist."

Panthoidas: When the philosophers were engaging in much serious discussion in the Academy and Panthoidas was asked subsequently what impression thier talk made on him, he replied: "What else but serious? Yet there is no value in it unless you put it to use."

Panthoidas again: When he was on an embassy to Asia and some people were showing him a great high wall, he said: "By the gods, my friends, what splendid women's quarters!"

Leotychidas: When someone was remrking on how readily he changed his mind, he said: "Yes, but in accordance with the circumstances and not (like you people) because of a weak character."

A brigand overran the country and after his capture declared: "I did not have the means to support my soldiers, so I attacked those who did have it but wouldn't be willing to provide it, with the intention of taking it by force", Cleomenes said: "By the gods, crime is concise."

When one of the citizens was maintaining that the good king should be mild in every way, Cleomenes said: "Yes, but not to the extent of being contemptible."

Agasicles: "When asked how anyone could rule the citizens safely without having a bodyguard, he said: "By ruling them in the way that fathers do their sons."

Agesilaus: When somebody asked him to write to his friends in Asia so that he might gain justice there, he replied: "But my friends do what is right of thier own accord, even without a letter from me."

Agesilaus again: When asked once which of the two virtues was finer, courage of justice, he declared: "Courage has no value if justice is not in evidence too; but if everyone were to be just, then no one would need courage."

Cleomenes: He said to the Argives who were execrating him as an ungodly perjurer: "You may have the power to utter abusive words, but I'm able to do you real harm."

Agis: He came alone on an embassy to Phillip. When the latter said: "What's this? Have you come alone?" he replied: "Yes, since I've come to see one man."

Anaxandridas: When someone was inquiring why their practice was to hand their landholdings over to helots and not to care for them personally, he said: "Because we acquired them by caring for ourselves, not for our land."

Leon: When someone engaged him at an inappropriate moment about business which was by no means trivial, he said: "Friend, the question you raise is a good one, but your timing is not good."

Archidamidas: When someone was criticizing the sophist Hecataeus because he had been invited to their mess and would then say nothing, he remarked: "Evidently you don't understand that an expert at speaking also knows when to speak."

Archidamus: To those who congratulated him on his victory in the battle against the Arcadians, he said: "It would be better if our intelligence were beating them rather than our strength."

Leon: When asked what sort of city one should live in to live safely, he said: "One whose inhabitants will possess neither too much nor too little; and where justice will be strong and injustice weak."

Kain
03-29-2007, 05:51 PM
Some great quotes here...thanks Okazaki, much appreciated.

Kain

Dragon
04-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Been watching 300 eh?

Okazaki Castle
04-05-2007, 07:53 PM
Been watching 300 eh?

Aye, 'tis true!! I've never subscribed to the theory or practice of humility, finding it conflicts with some other character traits that I personally enjoy much more, and find far more useful: pride, arrogance and panache. As a teenager my primary role models were Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lucifer and the Spartans.

Dated 12-8-2006 (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=6580&postcount=3)

*yawns*

Okazaki Castle.

Naomi
04-06-2007, 10:55 AM
He's Greek, Dragon, they are all batshit crazy like that. XD

Or Hellenic I mean.

Actually I was a fan of the Amazons, primarily when I was a teenager. Heh heh heh! And Arnold Scwarzenegger of course. Throw in a little Jurassic Park, Mortal Kombat, Sonic the Hedgehog and Dolphins and you've got my chemical lingo pinned...

I had a thing for Diogenes last year.

How about you Dragon? Any Mediterranean influences?

Okazaki Castle
04-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Hmm, maybe I got the tone wrong, sorry about that if so...

OC.

Kuroyagi
04-10-2007, 06:00 PM
Yes some good quotes here.

I think to remember to hear that we dont actually know too much about the Spartans and that all those quotes where either compiled by visiting foreigners or half invented by those who where far away, like Athenians. Also there are no prominent Spartan artists, though there was a time when they had nice pottery and when they attracted artists from outside, even their "national poet" (cant remember his name now) wasnt a born Spartan. Very very ellusive, those folk...a mysterious people, for sure.

Okazaki Castle
04-17-2007, 11:56 AM
I had lots of past lives there, so I remember stuff. For example, we had a statue of the goddess athena in one of our central squares (we had dummy squares and things too). Visiting athenians (rarely, but there were) would see it and be told 'See, we worship the same war goddess as you." In fact, we were holding her hostage.

What surprises me even nowadays is that the foreigners actually believe (inc academics) that the big iron bars we had there (obols) were our money. Uh-huh, that's what we told the visiting foreigners, who always believed it and thought how stupid and strange we were. I mean, iron bars, like, come on... obviously have lots of those lying around when you make weapons secretly...

Oh yeah, and that was pig's blood too and the helots were featured in klepsia for training the youth, yeah... Maybe that last one's a bit too much though, but, meh, the Spartans were weird to human perspectives, they killed children for being weak...

It's the attitude which makes the words, just wanted to say that....

A spartan saying, quite a common one:

"By Zeus!!"

all the best,
Oazaki.

Zaii
04-18-2007, 01:06 PM
"Your cat may have learned that if she meows, people will talk to her, play with
her, feed her, or even yell at her. Remember for some cats negative attention is
better than none at all. Some owners love to “talk” with their cats, back and
forth, so if you have adopted your cat as an adult, it is possible that this behavior
was encouraged by a prior owner. If you have brought Kitty up, then most likely
you can think of things that have “rewarded” this behavior. Cats learn to
communicate with us, just as we learn to communicate with them. Maybe when
the litterbox is dirty, your cat draws your attention to it by walking around and
meowing, and so you clean the box. This is how behavior patterns start"

Ci Celli Ddu
04-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Gerard Butler, who plays the role of Leonidas in 300, is a Scot.

Does that make him a Tartan Spartan?

(Sorry, I have nothing better to do)

Kain
04-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Gerard Butler, who plays the role of Leonidas in 300, is a Scot.

Does that make him a Tartan Spartan?

(Sorry, I have nothing better to do)Lol...I guess so, Ci Celli Ddu.

Kain

MythMath
04-19-2007, 05:58 PM
I don't want to speculate if he was flatulent... :no:

Okazaki Castle
04-20-2007, 12:57 PM
Gerard Butler, who plays the role of Leonidas in 300, is a Scot.

Does that make him a Tartan Spartan?

(Sorry, I have nothing better to do)

Yes, but he lives in Hampstead, London...

Prbbly shouldn't say more about the past there yet.

I'd say he's more Celtic than Scottish per se, that is to say, he connects also to the Irish, and so Irish karmic flows, in some way...

all the best,
OC (good to see you around agin btw CCD :) )