A Prison 4 Your Mind

[Okazaki Castle]

There follow below an excerpt from the film 'The Matrix':

Morpheus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000401/): The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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Morpheus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000401/): The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000206/): What truth?
Morpheus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000401/): That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
Morpheus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000401/): I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.

You can see 'The Matrix', just like Morpheus says. It's what I refer to sometimes as 'Mindgrid'. You can draw energy from it, and f*ck with it in other ways also. If you've seen those Alex Grey drawings of subtle anatomy, it's a bit similar to how you look at those.

So, to continue, another quote:

"This universe is a dream that all six billion of us are collaboratively dreaming up into materialization together. When we realize this, we can put our lucidity together in a way where we can co-creatively dream up a much more grace-filled universe into incarnation. This is nothing other than an evolutionary quantum leap in human consciousness, unimaginable until now." - Paul Levy

The War On Consciousness
By Paul Levy

We are truly in a war. It is not the war we imagine we are in, which is the way our true adversaries want it. It is not a foreign war against a foreign enemy. It is a war on consciousness, a war on our own minds. The global war on terror that is being fought around the world is an embodied reflection in the material world of a deeper, more fundamental war that is going on in the realm of consciousness itself.

We have the most criminal regime in all of our history wreaking unspeakable horror on the entire planet, while simultaneously waging war on the consciousness of its own citizens - US. If we aren't aware of this, we are unwittingly playing into, supporting and complicit in the evil that is being perpetrated in our name.

A government's war on the consciousness of its own citizens is by no means unique to the Bush administration. Abusing power over others so as to limit their freedom is an archetypal process that has been endlessly re-enacted by governments throughout history in various forms.

More here (http://www.awakeninthedream.com/html/)

Now, if mindgrid makes a Matrix, as it does, which creates the Occurring Reality of this planet, as it does, then... we have here the mechanics by means of which what is known as 'The Game' operates. The key consideration from a magickal perspective, or one of Dominion, is how to take control of that process. To do that, we need to know how the mechanistic structures involved work. Most especially what is known as 'The Matrix', or what I refer to as 'Mindgrid'. How do individual humans 'plug into' this and how do groups of humans 'plug into' this? How, in other words, is reality Created on this planet?

That's the Question.

I've got lots of answers to it, or Angles of Attack as I view them. Most were too harsh, so I passed things on to another to run with it and see what came thru. Other solutions and options are always of interest to me though. Also, I'd like to see what people come up with here.

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It's wavey. Gravity does that to matter, I think you might find. That's one of the tools I talked about. I'm sure there are others. How does the precise methodology here work? What do you use specific tools for? How do you hack Mind?

Extreme Magick if you like, we could create a new discipline here. There's also something I call Real Magick, which you do by using the system's own inherent tendency to cross-reference, or produce synchronicities. More on that later, quite a bit later perhaps. For now, let us discuss.

regards all,
Oazaki.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Not sure what you want to discuss exactly but I'm down for it because this, or something akin to it, has been one of my private obsessions for years. There is a whole magickal model based on The Matrix that you can find in the book Matrix Warrior by Jake Horsley that may be right up your alley here. You can see some of his ideas at Divine Virus (http://www.divinevirus.com/). Another string of related ideas that you might find of interest can be found in Aeolus Kephas' The Lucid View. Or maybe Ramsey Dukes' masterpiece Words Made Flesh is worthy of consideration. And of course anything Philip K. Dick wrote about. I think what you are presenting here lies at the base of everything I am into and do Magickally. "Hacking" into this system of control (the consensual lie) via lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming is the means of tapping into the "real world" that lies outside of our current "matrix". What Carlos Castaneda called the Assemblage Point I call the Oneiric Interface. The Oneiric Interface is where we read and reassemble the informational code (aka The Necronomicon) to alter how we perceive and effectively change the prison we live in. For me this interface is the key to real-zing what we Imagine (Will). Magickians, for lack of a better term for people like us, if serious about what they are doing, are attempting to unplug themselves from this world in order to walk between worlds ("in this world but not of this world"). We must unplug from, not plug into, this "matrix" and to do this requires what I have come to call the "sub-circuit symbiosis". Some of you call this "evocation of demons" but I think the approach in the usual style of evocation takes away it's full potentials. So far I have only achieved glimpses of the possibilities because this has proven to be the hardest magick I have ever attempted as well as the most interesting and rewarding. Maybe I have just gone completely out of my mind but isn't that the point?:)

[Anibis]

Have you considered that there may be matrices or at least several competing, coded regions, of various different sorts vying for dominance? I get what you guys are saying, but I sort of wonder if 'the system' really is one thing. I popped out of it years ago when I went nuts... then wandered about in the wilderness, then came back, built an ark, and generally hang out just within orbit of it, interacting at certain points, and disengaging at different points... generally I do my best to float along with people who are doing something to loosen the grip of the 'hypno-gaga machine', and beam what I see as wisdom to them (the people), in the hope that most people will at some point wake up... I know that's not everyone's tactic here, but hey, at least we can agree that something is wack, and it needs to be addressed... I personally think doing 'mundane stuff' like building better curriculae in schools and coming up with an implementing better ideas is the way to go, but hey, whaddo I know?

-Anibis

[Kuroyagi]

The freer human beings deem themselves, the easier it is to indoctrinate them.

p.s. this can be also applied as an answer to your freedom thread. :)

[m1thr0s]

The freer human beings deem themselves, the easier it is to indoctrinate them.That's an interesting assertion Kuroyagi...not sure I understand how that works.
I can see where it might be easier to trick them (since they've already tricked themselves) but why "indoctrinate"?

Magickians, for lack of a better term for people like us, if serious about what they are doing, are attempting to unplug themselves from this world in order to walk between worlds ("in this world but not of this world"). We must unplug from, not plug into, this "matrix" and to do this requires what I have come to call the "sub-circuit symbiosis".Interesting how the terminology changes around similar ideas...the tantrics typically refer to all of this as "divine detachment"...sort of withdrawing with focused intent, so you are still in the world but not really "of" it so much. I find it useful to think in terms of different tiers of nature itself, trying as I do to ascertain and interface with "universal nature". Not due to any sense of absolutes but just because it's there...and its bigger and older and more powerful than the world alone...might as well lock onto it as much as possible...

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Well, m1thr0s, its an aphorism, a literal form that I like. I make them up but they are not all "true" if you know what I mean, or rather not in the sense of a purely rational argument alone. they are more like riddles or paradoxes even to myself.

this one is true and also of course idiotic (they always are), its fun thinking it through though. "Indoctrinate" is better I think, because trick would probably be too easy: if one is only tricked one at some time can see that "it wasnt that serious anyway", but if one is indoctrinated and then can break out of it its still possible to see the "worth" of the "teaching", yet still hate it that one had been tricked into it, if you like, but the tricking- if at all- would be only a part of it...whatever Im rambling a bit, its already morning here..I'll think of it myself too. :)

Its maybe about my suspicion that freedom is somehow endless- there is no boundary to the urge of it. even at a time when I succeeded- for a short time- to have all of my time for myself, I still had to care for friends or eat and sleep or whatever, one is easily disturbed, the universe never gives one a break...yet on the other hand when I read some notes by the Roman slave Epiktetus, there are even in physical slavery methods of liberating oneself mentally, and becoming more free than "normal" citizens...many other teachers like Gautama I think have also seen this- (or if you have Patanjali) namely that (self!) restriction or discipline can also liberate, as in yoga (latin jugum). freedom fascinates me, I would describe myself as a rather freedom-loving individual, more than others. this may seem a banality but not necessarily when one talks to other humans: some even enjoy it to serve others, or make them comfy etc...I dont have this (but I eg enjoy doing something for ppl that I love.), whatever its late or rather early, so I'll call it a "night"...

[Kuroyagi]

P.s. sorry to clarify: the general meaning of it is that if people are more free, they are more relaxed and more susceptible to "suggestions", but this wouldnt express the whole of the statement...


but generally speaking youre right: its maybe trickery...

[Anibis]

I find there is a difference between freedom to do what you want, and the freedom which comes from doing what you will... when you 'do what you want' all the time, and think yourself free, often you open a backdoor to manipulation, since what a person 'wants' can be influenced... if you do what you will, it often seems to others that you are in fact not free, since doing your will means being consistent with your own nature, and consistency is something that one must labor for and bear with considerable sacrifice, I think... however, you do end up better buffered against manipulation, I think...
-Anibis

[Radiant Star]

I find there is a difference between freedom to do what you want, and the freedom which comes from doing what you will... when you 'do what you want' all the time, and think yourself free, often you open a backdoor to manipulation, since what a person 'wants' can be influenced...
Indeed. Something advertisers know only too well and use very effectively to persuade us to part with our cash.

[Okazaki Castle]

Nalyd:

Of all the people I've encountered who work esoterically, or magickally, over the years you are the only one I could never get a clear handle on or feeling for. Don't know why that is... but it does leave me not knowing which way to turn with you or how to assess where you're coming from. Generally I get a feel and direction and go with it. But you, you're weird! :laugh: Or perhaps just very deep. Or maybe something else is going on. I don't know. I hear the words you've written, I know what you talk of... but I just don't get it, because I don't have a 'feel' for it, if that makes sense?

Now, I do know of some of those works you've talked of, and have glanced through bits here and there... but also, I don't really have the time to investigate every magickal system and methodology out there, even the ones which really appeal to me. Hence why I rely on other people to do so usually, and just sort of absorb the vibe from their direction, or ride the wave that's coming into this system due to their presence within it (if that makes sense).

I'd appreciate more information on how you go about what you do, maybe a brief, elegant summary? I think it is very similar to a lot of what I did/do and was quite intensely into (from a different perspective though) for most of 2004. It's also a continuing area of interest and work for me, and yes, I agree, it is probably the hardest area of magickal work that I've encountered also.

The precise question I was asking was: How does one create reality? In its totality, that is to say, be God. Basically. Or whoever writes/programmes/creates this matrix in the first place. Then, you set the context, and 'enter' that context yourself as a physical form. Whilst aware of the other dimension (the matrix) simultaneously. Then you also 'hit' that matrix from inside through your motion through system. Like a two-pronged attack, sort of. But basically, the question I wanted to address here was: How does one Create Reality? If this life and life experience was a giant Virtual Reality computer game, then there would be a programmer, or architect. I think there is such a role, or position, in this. Now, how do you do that role? (later on or already perhaps that role is shared amongst a group)

So that's about as clear as I can get at what I'm driving at here. Could you help me to a clearer undertsanding of where you're coming from in your work and methodology on this?

As regards the other responses, I'd like to focus on Nalyd's approach here for a while, till I've begun to get it clear for me. One-pointedness, I'm like that, not being rude or anything, and you don't need me for the discussion, though will prbbly get to it once I've figured out the previous enough for me to be happy with my undertsanding there.

all the best,
Oazaki.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Oazaki, sorry for my incoherence at times. When I have more time to really sit down and type up my ideas regarding these things I will. When I logged on just a bit ago someone else asked me in a PM if I would start a thread about my dreaming techniques. Most of the methods I use can be found in a few sources. In the last 3-4 years Austin Spare and Kenneth Grant have been my primary inspirations and the basis for all of what I do can be found in their works. I just don't have as much online time as I used to where I can fully get into these discussions and I apologize for that. It was my attempts at tapping into the "Necronomicon Gnosis" (the informational code, Logos, etc.) which led me right into my current madness and speaking of... about my being "weird", haha! I won't argue that one.:) Maybe you have a hard time getting a grip on where I'm coming from because I am coming from nowhere and everywhere at once and have a hard time trying to describe what I do because it's a subtle process even for me. I'm still trying to figure it out myself. I am a rather non-linear, surrealist type of guy. I am continually arranging and rearranging my own perceptions (even retroactively at times), accepting and investing "belief in" old and new models and then rejecting them all outright, etc. I even came back down to earth for a while and threw magick out the backdoor but it came back to haunt me when I realized all over again just how "unreal" and plasticine-like our collective dream actually is. So by all outward appearances and even to my "self(s)" I can appear inconsistent and contradictory at times which is a good thing IMO. Now to answer your question about how "reality" is created... I have no idea. The art of using language, "spelling", may have a lot to do with it. m1thr0s and I and a few others were in a discussion one time about "technology" which I break up and define as techne logos, the way or skill of the word. That, for me, is the whole basis of magick. As I already hinted at, our worlds seem to have an informational code we can tap into directly through dreams. A simple example I can use is my own. "Sub-circuit symbiosis" is a term that came to me in a dream along with some other outlandish phrases I am still trying to figure out. Through a few invocations I came to the understanding that it refers to the collective network of intelligences (those programmers or architects you refered to) that we call by many names from many different "worlds". This new terminology has come to resonate with me personally and has allowed me a different form of access, a new technology... a bit like the so-called secret Mason's word if you will even though I am sharing it with you so it is no secret.</p>

[Okazaki Castle]

Ah, ok, you do things retroactively and also can work with inconsistency. No wonder I have a hard time picking up your flows!

The rest makes sense and is very similar to everything I've been able to draw up on the process. I tend to use projection and moving through others' bodies/forms more than dream work up in the astral, but same idea and approach I think. Very, very interesting...

So... do you ever see the actual layers of 'code' that form The Matrix? Or is it a more indirect process, or one of layers? Or all at the same time? It's the inter-relationsjip between the layers and how they go to create physicality which is the area I'm currently working on / focusing on in terms of this side of things. Always seems to be little bits left to cover, small pieces to fit into place... to get the 'external machine' (real life and more especially the people and connectiosn involved there) running smoothly. IT would be good if there was some sort of 'instant access base layer' there which could be worked with / programmed to produce instant physical results....

The Masons 'secret word' is 'Mahabone' btw, if that's of any use or interest to you. All of 'em are dog consciousness looking for the world's biggest bone then... :no: :rofl:

all the best,
Oazaki.

[Naomi]

So they're the ones responsible for all of my viagra and enlargement spams....bastards.

Nalyd I will never forget the day I lost my beverage to your elite powers. It was humbling.

[deviadah]

The freer human beings deem themselves, the easier it is to indoctrinate them.
:)

Exactly!

We are slaves and if we can't see our chains how then can we break free. First we got to face the problem before we create a sollution!