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Frater Yechidah
04-20-2007, 03:12 PM
This thread is entirely dedicated to feedback, be it suggestions or, indeed, general comments on the class itself. Please use this thread for feedback, rather than the actual lecture threads themselves.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

Anibis
04-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Just wished to add at this point that I am really enjoying this course. I was warned to keep away from enochian until my chakras were ballanced/open, and recently I had an experience which I think marks that event... It seems like Enochian makes sense for me to study. Could you tell me a little about Dee and Masonry? Was he a Mason?
-Anibis

Radiant Star
04-21-2007, 11:09 AM
I would also like to know more about Dee too.

Frater Yechidah
04-21-2007, 04:00 PM
As far as I'm aware, Freemasonry didn't come into play until the 17th and 18th Centuries, a good hundred or more years after Dee's time. I'm not that well-versed with Freemasonry, but I believe it may have grown out of Rosicrucianism. There appears to be a lot of evidence that Dee heavilly influenced the formation of the Rosicrucians, and, indeed, may have been the Founder of that movement, which was first suggested by Dame Frances Yeats, I believe. In this sense, we could possibly see him as a "proto-Mason", but I think it would be better to just view him as a Rosicrucian.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

Neshamah
04-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Just as a quick aside, one can look at the pictures (drawings) of Francis Bacon (Rosicrucian), John Dee (Rosicrucian?), and Johann Valentin Andreae (Rosicrucisn) and see an amazing resemblence between the three men (also William Shakespeare?!). Some have suggested that Bacon may have been ALL of these men, and various times in his life. Of course, soemthing like this is near-to-impossible to prove or disprove, but it is an interesting coincidence, nonetheless.

Love, Light, and Peace Profound,

Neshamah

Frater Yechidah
04-21-2007, 08:04 PM
I've heard the theory that Bacon was the founder of Rosicrucianism, among other things, but then I've also heard that he was Shakespeare and a number of other people, which is intriguing - though I have my doubts. That's an interesting thing about their pictures though - I'm off to have a look at them now :D

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

Frater Yechidah
04-21-2007, 08:09 PM
Here are some pictures of each of these four guys. There are some striking resemblances between them, strangely enough. Food for thought, eh? :confused:

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

Oroc
04-25-2007, 09:12 AM
Hi Frater Yechidah! thank you for accepting me in your class.
I'm Portuguese, as some may already know, and it's really dificult to find the Magick scene here in Portugal: if there is a NOOB in your class, that's me!
My English isn't very good but surely is better than my experience in Magick. I read your introduction about Enochian, and your warning. Surely I am not an experienced in Magick. Anyway, I think this is maybe the only oportunity I will have to learn Enochian from a Teacher. Considering that, I wil give my best to learn even knowing I'm a White Belt!

About some ethics on this class, I will follow the suggestions of the "Group Ethic Rules" (http://www.paganlibrary.com/ethics/group_ethics.php) by Raven:


The Student promises the teacher:
I will abide by the Rules of the Circle.
I will ask from you no more than you can give.
I will not expect you to read my mind.
If I have questions about what you show me, I will ask you.
If I fail to understand anything, I will mention it.
If I feel unready to proceed, I will tell you.
I realize that I may be tempted to become dependent, a "follower" - and I will do my best to resist this temptation.
Because I receive from you without payment, I will give to others without payment.
As I can, I will teach you in turn.I really don't think I have anything I can teach you :laugh:

I will now start reading and studying what you already posted. Thank you very very much for disposing of your time to teach us.

Oroc

Frater Yechidah
04-25-2007, 09:26 AM
Ave Oroc,

Welcome to the Class, and thank you for posting those "Group Ethics".

If you are very new to magick, then I advise you to hold off with the actual practice of Enochian until you get some experience under your (white) "belt" (yes, that was a joke :laugh:). However, feel free to follow the class now in a theoretical context.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

BrotherM
04-27-2007, 09:05 AM
Will you explain "Enochian Chess" and it's uses? I have heard varied things about this being used to alter the future... which sounds like BS?

I am very interested in Enochian, as it is one area that I know absolutely nothing about.

Many thanks,

BrotherM

Frater Yechidah
04-27-2007, 09:57 AM
I would like to explain Enochian Chess sometime in the future, but I'm afraid my current knowledge of it is a little limited, so I will have to leave that for a while. In many ways, there is very little "Enochian" in it (it was also called Rosicrucian Chess), barring a basic structure of the Watchtowers as a board (though many could argue that this isn't very Enochian, given the four-fold elemental attributions to the squares is a G.'.D.'. addition).

I've heard a lot about it being used for "changing the future", which, I believe is true to some extent, but then, all magick can change the future. The board could be seen to represent the world (just as, in some ways, the Watchtowers do), and thus moving the pieces on the board could be seen to affect the "pieces" in the world. Follow?

I cannot attest to the validity of this at this time, but it is an area on my "to do" research list.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

BrotherM
04-27-2007, 10:24 AM
Interesting, I always thought of it as the board representing the macro-cosim and the pieces represnting the micro-cosim and by moving the pieces you changed the energies flowing through your life and thus could change your future, kind of like a universal talisman of sorts.

I hope that one day you do hold the course because I would be very interested to hear the outcome.

BrotherM

Frater Yechidah
05-04-2007, 09:36 PM
I thought I'd add a note here about something which some may find interesting. Johann Valentin Andreae, who some believe was Dee (among others) utilises Dee's Heirogylphic Monad in some of his works. He was also the writer of the Rosicrucian document "The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz", which further suggests these Rosicrucian links of Dee's. Just some "mind-nibbles", as it were :cool:

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.