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deviadah
04-26-2007, 02:24 PM
In 1971 two brothers, Terrence and Dennis McKenna, journeyed into a remote part of the Amazon jungle searching for a hallucinogenic brew called ayahuasca. It is one of the most botanically and chemically complex hallucinogen. It is like a cocktail that contains different additives depending on the region, desired effect and on the user. Scientists agree that dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is its main active ingredient. This highly hallucinogenic substance seems also to be produced in small quantities by the human brain (the pineal gland).

Jeremy Narby says in his book THE COSMIC SERPENT:
“We do not know how our visual system works. As you read these words, you do not really see the ink, the paper, your hands, and the surroundings, but an internal and three-dimensional image that reproduces them almost exactly and that is constructed by your brain. The photons reflected by this page strike the retinas of your eyes, which transform them into electrochemical information; the optic nerves relay this information to the visual cortex at the back of the head, where a cascade-like network of nerve cells separates the input into categories (form, colour, movement, depth, etc.). How the brain goes about reuniting these sets of categorized information into a coherent image is still a mystery. This also means that the neurological basis of consciousness is unknown.”How can we understand things which are not there if we don’t even know how we see things that are? Could, is, there more to those things in nature which are invisible than science give credit? Before the microscope people considered the notion of particles, atoms or even germs ridiculous. Should we, with this in mind, let these matters that are not yet proven, or disproved, be ignored? What scientist dares to face ridicule and commence such work?

Of course laziness, or indifference, is not the sole reason why studies into the ayahuasca and other hallucinogenic substances are minimal. Since the 1960s it has been illegal in most parts of the western world.

If we want to activate the third eye and become reborn then the pineal gland and the pituitary gland must vibrate in unison. To be able to do this one must be placed in deep mediation and relaxation, but for this to be possible it is vitally important to know oneself and feel comfortable with ones own inner mind.

Now the pineal gland produces the hormone melatonin, which regulates the instincts of sleep and awake, and also produces trace amounts of the psychedelic chemical DMT, which could be argued only creates the illusion of astral travel than the actual effect. If this is the case it’s hard to say.

What is reality anyway?

Anyway has anyone had the chance to try ayahuasca? I myself have not, although I would really like to try. I have a friend in Peru who keeps inviting me to come down and have a session…


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MythMath
04-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Road trip...!!! :p

m1thr0s
04-28-2007, 02:17 AM
yeah...I've always wanted to check this stuff out...

what kind of shit-for-brains fuckwads pass laws against plants that grow naturally just so they can turn around and charge 100 times what it costs to produce synthetic pharmaceuticals to the desperately ill?

there is and has been a concerted effort in this world to systematically suppress the natural evolutionary gravitation of humankind itself. people had better wise up to this shit before it's way too late...though perhaps it already is. A whole lot of greedy assholes certainly hope so at any rate.

m1thr0s

deviadah
05-01-2007, 09:01 AM
what kind of shit-for-brains fuckwads pass laws against plants that grow naturally
Funny, you rarely loose your temper, or so it seems, so this must be one of those things that just bug you, and me too I might add... anyway isn't it true what comedian Bill Hicks says, and I paraphrase, that drugs that do nothing for you, like cigarettes and alcohol, are illegal, whereas those that can open up your mind and make you realise how the governments (society/dogma) are fucking with you are illegal?

Personally I am more interested in the creation of natural high, self-created DMT and such, and I have no interest in unnatural reality openers like LSD. But mushrooms and especially ayahuasca (and peyote) interests me greatly although I have never tried any. Apart from those that are legal, cannabis is the only drug I have endulged in.

I think there is more than greed at play because, for instance in the case of cannabis, great profits can be made even if it was legal. I reckon Bill Hicks point that it would liberate minds is too dangerous for those that rule us. I can't recall if it was Hitler or Stalin (some mad man anyway) that expressed the view that it was fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.

fr.novumorganum
05-01-2007, 12:44 PM
Great thread!!!

I moved this to the chemognosis forum, as I felt it fit better there.

I have not yet tried this, but I am dying to!

I believe Salvia divinorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum)
can still be found legally.

Catalytic Subterfuge
05-01-2007, 07:48 PM
Having experimented myself with DMT I must say that it was one of the positive strangest experiences I've ever had. It tastes like what you'd think burning toxic waste might taste. Fuzzy aura all around the body. I didn't do enough to get to "the place" but next time. Terrence once commented that it is the kind of thing you only do once. I'm hoping to continue my experiment ASAP.

Again I post http://deoxy.org/mckenna.htm

m1thr0s
05-01-2007, 08:29 PM
... anyway isn't (it) true what comedian Bill Hicks says, and I paraphrase, that drugs that do nothing for you, like cigarettes and alcohol, are illegal, whereas those that can open up your mind and make you realise how the governments (society/dogma) are fucking with you are illegal? It is true, and before it's all said and done these maggots will finally be seen for what they really are...the only question that remains is how much of life will be left to attest to the truth of it, once they have destroyed the atmosphere, crippled the earth, and done everything in their power to obstruct the necessary evolution of their own godamm species...

the truly pissed off set their sights to getting even, while there might still be a chance of getting even. the most dynamic path that this can take is to complete the very same process they are so adamantly bent on blocking.

the godman cometh...

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
05-03-2007, 03:12 PM
Having experimented myself with DMT I must say that it was one of the positive strangest experiences I've ever had. It tastes like what you'd think burning toxic waste might taste. Fuzzy aura all around the body. I didn't do enough to get to "the place" but next time. Terrence once commented that it is the kind of thing you only do once. I'm hoping to continue my experiment ASAP.

Again I post http://deoxy.org/mckenna.htm

did you encounter the greys or the DMT elves? If so, did you note any connection between them and the enochian angels?

fr.novumorganum
05-05-2007, 10:35 PM
for all those seeking info on Ayahuasca (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca.shtml)

deviadah
05-13-2007, 11:04 PM
Nice link fr.novumorganum :cool:

Catalytic Subterfuge
05-14-2007, 11:27 AM
did you encounter the greys or the DMT elves? If so, did you note any connection between them and the enochian angels?
No greys! There was much discussion of words comming alive however. This is also talked about by McKenna. There were five of us in this experience. All of us had similar, but very separate experiences. There was not a common "room or land" we traveled too. As I said, we didn't quite do enough to get to that place. Interestingly, Clive Barker's novel Weaveworld is all too similar description of the same kind of things McKenna expereinced. DMT is very hard to find, unless you know a chemist. My experience was 11 years ago. I'd imagine, however, that had we made it to "the place" we would have encountered beings on the order of greys or enochian angels. McKenna talks of them as keepers of the word; I believe in the literal translation. We'll see. I'm on the quest to re-find my source!

deviadah
07-14-2007, 07:55 AM
It would be cool to organize a trip (and I stress the word Trip) to the Amazon!

A few AF people all gather in Rio, or whatever is closest, and journey into the jungle to partake in some Ayahuasca. Document it with written words and on film. Anyone up for this.

Seriously!

Would take some planning and a bit of cash, for me this is no problem!

Just do it!

Anyone?

If there is then go HERE (http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/networking-f15/ayahuasca-trip-t181.htm)