I've had 4 bodies so far.

[Darin Hamel]

Got born with a physical one, then traveled obe in one the same size as my normal adult one, then had a major awakening and had one that looked like a 12 year old wearing a red robe and finally popped out of my forehead once in an itsy, bitsy body. That makes 4 bodies. Anybody got a clue if they have specific occult names?

[fr.novumorganum]

well, the analogy to the four worlds model certainly comes to mind.

[MythMath]

http://www.abrahadabra.com/images/FourWorlds001.gif
http://www.abrahadabra.com/fourworlds001.htm

[m1thr0s]

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I really need to revamp that image...

There may or may not be a direct correlation to the four worlds. I wouldn't want to be the one to assert that with any kind of overconfidence necessarily. It's always worth considering, but it may also be more chakra related in some way, where the string of manifestations is actually taking more of a step-ladder path of some kind. You can't be 100% certain in that case that there might not yet be others yet to be revealed for instance.

I think we would need to know a little more about them than their simple outward appearance to really begin any kind of serious conjecture. It's certainly interesting though...I have not heard of these divisions within taoist alchemy alone...though I am not altogether expert in this area either.

To a great extent, the kinds of phenomena we incur is diametrically juxtaposed to that which we most urgently seek as well as the means by which we seek it. It is astonishing really that anyone has ever managed to package up any of this stuff at all, the inclination towards customized experience being so profoundly dominant a factor in things.

If I were to take a wild shot in the dark here I would be more inclined to look in the direction of the 5 Koshas for instance, but here again, unless one is somehow already keyed into the 5 Koshas in some way, it would be difficult to predict that form of manifestation necessarily. All these things do have their basis in physics at some point but the Mind itself is vast and there are many ways to divide the distance between the finite and the infinite. More information would seem to be the ticket here.

m1thr0s

[Darin Hamel]

One thing I dont get is that as I developed physically I grew larger but these bodies I got later kept getting smaller. It was almost like I was reversing my creation or something. Is there a better word for Atziluth to be used in the context than "final"?

Fetus-action
Child-formation
Pubescent -creative
Adult-final


Spirit Double same size as physical body-action
Red Robed light body the size of a 12 year old-formation
Tiny body that came out forehead the size of a fetus-creative
Void body?-final