Atlantis

[Zifiriskenoxa]

Ok I'm not sure if this is the right place for this topic, if not let it be removed where it belongs :cool:

Lately I have this Atlantis thing going on in my head. I wonder everyones opinion on this subject. Feel free to share your insights.
water caves..:confused:

[Catalytic Subterfuge]

Chaka:

I've recently been turned onto the AMORC (Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis) {Rosicrutians}. I've been contemplating joining their organization for some time. Interstingly, their history includes the possibility of some of the ancient knowledge being handed down to the first Egyptian Pharo by an Atlantian. Some even believe the firt Pharo WAS an Atlantian. As for my views on this subject, I think the idea of a sunken of flooded city is quite plausible. I've also even wondered of the possibility of the city being flooded by sand. This too could have been plausible. As for the current existance, I would surmise that we have the capability to see the entire planet and there couldn't really be any hidden city. Just my $0.02.

[Frater Yechidah]

I think the origin of this myth (in written form) comes from Plato, and can be found in his book "Critias". I haven't read that yet, so cannot give an opinion either way.

I think there's also something about the lost continent of "Mu", which might be Plato-derived also, but again, don't quote me on it.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

[Dragon]

I think the origin of this myth (in written form) comes from Plato, and can be found in his book "Critias". I haven't read that yet, so cannot give an opinion either way.

I think there's also something about the lost continent of "Mu", which might be Plato-derived also, but again, don't quote me on it.

Mu is from the Pacific mythologies, Hawaiian specifically; no connection to Plato. but who knows how far back it reaches.. Weird huh?


"tell me O Critias, how shall a man choose a ruler to rule over him? Shall he not choose a man that has first put order in himself?" -Plato


~D~

[Neshamah]

Hey C.S.,

I am a member of AMORC, and without giving away any information that is exclusive to the Order, I can say that most members see/understand Atlantis as being an archetype in our 'collective unconscious.' That is to say, that we, as humankind, have a racial memory of a Utopian place that was "lost' to us for some reason. It is shown as being "submerged" because it has sunk to the level of our 'collective unconscious,' and not a part of our history, or anything that we can verify using "science."

This opens a lot of doors for various interpretations of Atlantis, which are in no way limited by Plato's works. Some see Atlantis as a civilazation in Africa or North America which existed many thousands of years ago. We have various legends of this mythical place (the Garden of Eden, for instance) which relate to our desire to return to a "better" way of living together, on this precious planet. Others say that Atlantis did exist at one time in what is now the Atlantic ocean (although there is no "scientific" basis for this understanding) and that those people were destroyed in some type of global catastrophe (i.e., the Great Flood, which is a common myth for many cultures).

No matter what one personally "believes," the concept of Atlantis can serve a valid purpose as an archetype of a better time and a better cultural situation in which we (humankind) once lived. And, it can also help us to develop new strategies for coping with our present global woes as we view their destruction through the various lenses of responsibility and accountability.

I hope this helps you understand that the Order doesn't teach the Edgar Cayce belief in an actual, physical Atlantis, but instead understands it as 'mythological' (in the best sense of that word) - being a construct of our 'collective unconscious.'

If I can answer any other questions to help you make your decision, feel free to PM me.

Love and Light for a Peace Profound,

Abrah Neshamah, F.R.C.

[Kuroyagi]

I personally prefer "Apragopolis", the city of the dolce far-niente, of the lotus eaters; but there are several theories about Atlantis: one is that it was on the partly sunken island w the present name of Santorini, another one has located it on the Black Sea, a common one that it was in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, between Europe and America, some theories say that it had been broken off of Gondwana and drifted to the present south polar region. There are many and many utopies have been written about it, its interesting to check them all...

[feranaja]

My question is; in the water caves, are you about to be sacrificed?
fera

[m1thr0s]

One of the interesting features of the Atlantean myth from my perspective has always been this notion of a highly advanced technology...also subsequently lost in the deluge, catastrophe, or whatever it was that destroyed this culture so suddenly. It just strikes me as especially curious that we would imagine a very ancient culture to be more technologically advanced than ourselves. We find the same sort of mythos in the legends of Enoch as well as the Annunaki and various other places.

m1thr0s

[Zifiriskenoxa]

All interesting. I am not sure what I personally believe but I sometimes have flashback like little visions about it.
Hey F, no I am not about it to be sacrificed. Rather I see everywhere empty and unoccuppied, abandoned but almost recently was inhabited.

[sock]

Charles Berlitz published a book in 1962 called 'Mysteries from Forgotten Worlds' which explores the Atlantian myth from a number of different angles. It's interesting stuff and not too heavy. You can probably find it on Amazon; worth a look.

I've seen a few programs now where the premise of an ancient civilisation with high tech has been wrestled with; the usual arguement is that there survives no high tech of any of themajor civilisations that would correspond to a highly evolved, centralised civilisation. The obvious stuff is that whilst say the Giza pyramid is a construction and mathematical wonder, there exist quite a few lesser and imperfect pyramids which are argued to be a kind of work in prgogress. The Zigguarts that exist around the world (under the sea off the coast of Japan, in mainland China as well as in the better known 'usual' spots, along with berial mounds that have been discovered in the US as well as the better documented ones in Europe point more towards an understanding of astronomy rather than an Atlantian presence in the ancient world.

That said, there are still quite a few cultrual and luigistic instances of Atlantis from around the world which go against the skeptics view. One of the key things is the fact that maps existed in the middle ages which are actually copies of much older maps of the world which include the ancient terrain of Antartica and more importantly, belie an understanding of how to calculate longitude - something you'd need to be able to calculate in order to navigate the world with any certainty.

If you're interested in Atlantis, you might also be interested in Lemuria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuria_%28continent%29)