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Raphael

09-11-2008, 12:57 PM

http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/pics2/1hand.jpg

http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/atlantisproof.htm

Proof of Atlantis connected to the swastika?
What if?

Please read the above link I just came across.
Has anybody heard of these discoveries before.
Are they legit?

It matches my archetype of the FLAT Universe to a 't' err, I mean a '+'.

Please read and comment.
THIS could be a big connection?

STOP
please note: after a wee bit more research…apparently these medallions are part of a publicity campaign.
sadly that link above is for entertainment purposes only…no point in wasting your time...getting drawn into the fiction.

But read on…I will discuss archetypes…using this medallion.

http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/pics2/Medalliondomesm.jpg

THREE MORE MEDALLIONS
DISCOVERED!
April 15 2003
"We may at last... have discovered evidence... that proves the
existence of that most fabled and mysterious civilization: Atlantis"

Because the medallion.... is decorated with crosses, floating on a golden spiral-like wire
behind the dome, the professor initially thought... it to be... from an early period of
Christianity. But as he delved deeper... he realized that it indicated... more of a
universal message. "It certainly relates... to the heavens above," he said, "but not
in a religious way. I am convinced... the symbols are linked to the movement of
celestial bodies. Many ancient civilizations used the cross... as a symbol to
indicate the Sun."

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BChurricane.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/DigitalSkySurveyofMilkyWay-1.jpg

Well I think we can help them out with the deeper meaning of that instrument.
I have a real good feeling I know what it is, are you following along with the utter simplicity that evolves into diverse complexity?
Here is what I just wrote on another site.
What I wrote is I believe connected to that 'golden spiral like wire' behind the dome described in those medallions found...

DEATH AND DYING IN THE TIBETAN BUDDHIST TRADITION

http://www.buddhanet.net/deathtib.htm

That is the twist at the end I guess.
Like I have suggested.
The Christians chase the light and are reborn back into a material HELL, which has a tendency to default to a WANKER run HELL.

Gravity = SOUND and that is where they will find the bosun Higgs, who has been AWOL.
Higgs the meSSiah shall soon reveal itself.

Gravity = SOUNDS we cannot hear, also suggests a solution to the paradox of wave/particle duality, the observers thoughts thus overriding at a short distance, the low low low sounds, that we failed to comprehend when those experiments were conducted...it was not until 2003 that they detected the 'god particles', and the wankers did not realize it, they have been busy building a machine that deals mainly with light, wrong path wankers.
It is...SOUNDS that are so low and stretched potentially across billions of light years...
A SOUND either so LOW or HIGH or maybe both...representing the boundaries we cannot hear...nor have we yet developed the necessary equipment to assist us in isolating these frequencies...

So what this also suggests is that this 'wavelength' would NOT appear as a wave as it slices with phi precision, a golden schnitt right through our solar system, which would just represent an invisible speck on this god wave that stretches right across the diverse universe...a WAVE which is a spiral / helix emmanating from the core...that is consistent and everything always defaults too...so fate is a frequency that free will must return too.

...anything else the EWE wanna know?
...today is mi anniversary date.
...as a former firefighter who was working on 911 and witnessed the second plane hitting the WTC...something changed in mi that day, in the world.
Did you notice?
The narrative MUST follow what has been written.
What was written is a frequency.
The name of god is unpronounceable BECAUSE who can utter sounds at 57 Octaves below middle 'C'?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/5281FFBadgeDiversTag.jpg

FIRE and WATER

And those two images above express the archetypal journey we ALL experience, it is the archetypal 'Christ' journey...my FIRE fighting badge represented by the 7000 year old Maltese Cross, which is connected to the SWASTIKA, and of course, I am a scuba diver too, diving to the depths of the ethereal waters of the waves we can see and also those we cannot.
And both badges awarded above...the diver tag in '83...the year I started with the fire department, I went diving with 3 others...that tag was awarded to me at the park.
I kept it because coincidentally it also matched my employee number.
52801
And the other badge was given to me by a fella named Saint Peter.
My FF captain, everyone feels this fella a saint, and Pete is loved by everyone....this is true.
Peter's last name was Gutenberg.
(close enough for us to continue with the narrative)
Peter knew deep down I had a story to share.
That badge was issued to the year I left the fire department.
It replaced the numbers 856 that I formerly had.
856 are in fact three numbers which represented the letters of my last name, first and middle names ... cool ... just noticed that recently :roll:
:wink:
So a fella named Gutenberg shook my hand and silently pointed me in a new direction...post fire department.

I have actually been issued a badge number that helps explain many of the ancient mysteries.
It contains the 4 sacred numbers I have been following both consciously and unconsciously for these past 4 years.
4 numbers I feel that are capable of unlocking the archetypal universe.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/528SOLFEGGIOFREQUENCIES.gif
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/528SecretSolfeggio.jpg

The world of archetype I want to warn you is very addictive.

You cannot help but get drawn into its charms, what is without a doubt, the most amazing narrative, you will ever tap into, and for each of us...it is slightly different...call it free will.
But that golden string that passes through our spiral galaxy, without a doubt represents the fact that a creator alchemist only needs to pluck the string...for its music to reverberate throughout the cosmos....

But these insights offered archetype, is beyond what only words can convey.

I offer in addition to words like god and dog, live and evil, devil and lived, numbers and GRAVEN imagery, that need to be held up to the mirror.
This is a necessary stage or step to understand, because everything has been veiled using the asymmetry that a mirror or MI-RA suggests.
:roll:

It has been 7 years since 911.
To mi that is quite significant.
Who better a messenger than a firefighter who is now battling the spiritual demons, to help bring forth a spiritual gold?

http://www.oneletterwords.com/unicorn/images/113322/OuterEarCochlea.gif

I can suggest to those wanker experts how to move a mountain come 2012...I have a real good 'feeling' about what we are SUPPOSED TO DO.
Is CERN a good idea?
Mohamed whispered the solution into mi ear, as we sat there pondering the big in the small, in Plato's cave, smokin' some myrrh-ijuana, designing a lever to move a mountain.
Oh I forgot ARCHimedes HAD to be there too.

namaste

Raphael

deviadah

09-11-2008, 02:33 PM

Please read the above link I just came across.
Has anybody heard of these discoveries before.
Are they legit?
I enjoy the Atlantis myth a lot, but I have never heard about this before.

The original ancientmedallion.com was created in April 2003 as a publicity site to generate interest in the lead up to the internet release of The Shift of the Ages in April 2003. Hundreds of thousands of people from around the world followed the discovery made by a British researcher, Professor Winwood, of an ancient medallion, which he believed was connected to the ancient and fabled civilization of Atlantis.

The concept behind this site was to bring some of the characters from the novel to life in cyberspace. This site reveals an event that took place five years before the timing of the novel which is set in 2008.

When it was unveiled that the event lead to the release of a new novel, sales were generated from all over the world. - source (http://www.dowsingworks.com/id78.html)
Then the last update on the site announced that Professor Winwood had mysteriously vanished during his trip to Egypt.

Well, knowing what I know of the "Necronomicon" that was contrived at a Sci-Fi convention in the 70's, I really had to be a skeptic.

*** The sloppy penmanship of the symbols (which look made up) was incongruent with the sophisticated craftsmanship of the whole.

*** Unlike a colossal Sphynx, jewelry would have easily fit in the pockets of whatever Atlanteans supposedly possessed them; there were reportedly 3 other identical ones found on different continents. (Crystal skulls, on the other hand, were meant to stay put.)

*** Professor Winwood does not exist. All internet searches led to reprints of the original press release.

*** A book parelleling this adventure was released June 1: http://www.wakemanpublishing.com/wakemanhtml.html

While the bauble itself is quite ingenious and pretty, consider it a publicity stunt for a novel. - source (http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ab-ufos&tid=1489)

I think the desire for this piece to be real is greater than the desire for truth. Every other year new proof about Atlantis is discovered every year, but none are any hard facts. Unless the governments of the world decide to scan every inch of the seabed we'll never know if Atlantis was an allegory or a fact!

One piece of possible evidence that I like is this: Yonaguni (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=2249)

:cool:

Raphael

09-11-2008, 08:07 PM

I enjoy the Atlantis myth a lot, but I have never heard about this before.

One piece of possible evidence that I like is this: Yonaguni (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=2249)

:cool:

I like the sound of Yoniguna...
:laugh:

And after a little more research...yes I agree these medallions are part of a ruse, a publicity campaign for a book and a concept.
:o_O:
But in my estimation...they have the archetypes down pat.

namaste

Raphael

Raphael

09-28-2008, 12:58 PM

What do the Tesla Coil, the ineffable name of God and ZEUS all have in common?
AUM let me think about it. :rolleyes:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=89183#p89183

SOUND

:yes:

YouTube - Tesla Coil Music University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
http://www.zeusaphone.com/

by the vay comrade Zeus = SeuS

SS power is Tesla Power...:cool:

namaste

Raphael

m1thr0s

09-28-2008, 06:39 PM

Raphael...please limit these YouTube video's to one per post...for some reason they just don't work correctly when they are nestled together...I haven't seen this addressed anywhere yet but am still looking for a fix. In the meantime, one-per-post only please.

m1thr0s

Raphael

09-28-2008, 08:33 PM

Raphael

10-02-2008, 12:06 PM

Origin of the swastika...how far back can we trace it?

It has become clear to me lately the profound relevance.
It is a symbol that represents the two movements that result in an electron and a positron.

What is essential to kick start the universe?
Ask Milo Wolff...

Clockwise and Counterclockwise

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MiloWolff_theKeytoUniversalMovement.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/DigitalSkySurveyofMilkyWay-1.jpg

Milo Wolff's model vs. Digital Sky Survey of the Milky Way

The central phase shift is similar to the phase shift of light when it reflects at a mirror. The required phase shift is a 180o rotation of the wave, either CW or CCW. There are only two possible combinations of the rotating inward and outward waves. One choice of rotation becomes an electron, the other becomes a positron. The angular momentum change upon rotation is either +h/4 or -h/4 . This is the origin of spin. One wave set is the mirror image of the other set producing the CPT invariance rule.
http://quantummatter.com/articles_html/body_spin.htmlNew Insights. A simple spherical wave structure of the particles leads to new exciting insights, including: 1) the origin of the natural laws, and 2) the relationships between the smallest things—particles—and the largest, the universe itself. These insights are breath-taking in their scope and potential. This structure appears to agree with and predict experimental observations.

http://www.quantummatter.com/space_resonance.htmlSo does this next blog suggest a truth obscured by time and self-serving human behaviors?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/

What happens when we connect the dots of the archetypal mind that transcends time and space and motion?
What symbol best describes both the ascension and descent?
What symbol best describes both the clockwise and counterclockwise spiral staircases?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MiloWolff_theKeytoUniversalMovement.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BChurricane.jpg

IS the swastika the miSSing piece of our collective history turned into a one-size-fits-all HIS-story?
I believe it is, as I have suggested it is the ultimate Macrocosmic/microcosmic symbol, an ancient model for both the electron and its movements, and on a larger scale, the Sun and its movements...
Herein is a secret worth burying if you expect to be in charge of 'The Power and the Glory Inc.'
IMHO

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

10-03-2008, 06:56 AM

Hi Raphael, I think you might find this site connects to what you're covering in relation to Milo Wolff:

http://www.glafreniere.com/images/electron.5_couleur.gif

http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm

In my humble opinion, I've always believed without evdience that we're here only half the time. That frequency vibration can only occur that way. Otherwise we'd be solid state and unable to flow thru' the aether. It feels to me that it is a communication process back and forth. Gathering information and transmitting it back. I guess in a digital age like a 0 and 1.

The graphic seems to best describe what I know intuitively. Of course this could be happening in multi dimensions - not just two.

Note: how the right hand one with the verticle stripes force the circles to flow clockwise at the top and anticlockwise at the bottom and at some point if you could freeze frame it there are four gateways - like the swastika.

cheers from the + half of OZ

Raphael

10-03-2008, 12:43 PM

In my humble opinion, I've always believed without evdience that we're here only half the time.

Thanks wiz, more confirmation for me.
You want further confirmation?

Within the Fibonacci sequence is a pattern that repeats every 24 numbers. (Marko Rodin incorporated this '24' in his torus design)
If you reduce all Fibonacci numbers to a single digit you will see this pattern that repeats.
I did it for the first 96 numbers.
(24 x 4)
This site illustrates what I suggest.
The Knights Templar Cross is on that site too and I want to come back to it later in this post...
It is a most valuable KEY we need to use to help us unravel the distortions of a self-serving tribal HIS-story of belief.
The author makes some interesting connections between the Fibonacci series and the Knights Templar Cross.
http://www.jainmathemagics.com/newsletter_lookup.asp?newsletter_id=27

Plot the fibonacci numbers 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13...etc onto one side of the x axis...but allow spaces between the numbers.

why?

because I want you to plot the shadow numbers contained within the Fibonacci series, which are the numbers NOT used.

i.e. 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 etc .....

So each amplitude of the wave has a maximum of 9 either above or below the x-axis that we can call the dividing line...or maybe the Divine Proportion.

Soon the pattern becomes evident ... a double helix forms, the Staff of Moses or Hermes, the Caduceus ... two intertwined spirals, containing the Fibonacci cycle we know and the shadowy Fibonacci cycle that represents our other energetic 'half' that is invisible, but still plays a vital role.

Wiz I made a stunning discovery yesterday relating Phi, the Fibonacci series, the Knights Templar Cross, the swastika and wave identification.

w a v e >>> i d e n t i f i c a t i o n

Using what?

A navigation tool used by the ancient Polynesians.
How old is it?
Good question comrade.

It is believed that Papuan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Papuan_languages) speaking settlers began to arrive around 30,000 BC. Austronesian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesia) speakers arrived circa 4,000 BC also bringing cultural elements such as the outrigger canoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrigger_canoe). It is between 1,200 and 800 BC that the ancestors of the Polynesians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia), the Lapita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapita) people, arrived from the Bismarck Archipelago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck_Archipelago) with their characteristic ceramics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands#cite_note-0) The first European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) to discover the islands was the Spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) navigator Álvaro de Mendaña de Neira (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_de_Menda%C3%B1a_de_Neira), coming from Peru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru) in 1568.
Want to have some fun accessing your super consciousness?
Helping to connect the dots...revealing secrets worth burying in a 'temple' and calling it Solomon, maybe even a secret stolen from the Solomon islands?

What I am about to show you will make you realize that the Polynesians in fact had a 'stick theory' that resembles our modern 'string theory'.

This navigational tool called the mattang contains a wealth of mathematical, geometric quantum information...made out of sticks...but made from the same archetypal 'mind source' that the modern asymmetrical mind accesses too.
It is in fact I believe, an ancient GPS, among other things.
:eek:

Let the fun begin...to my knowledge...nobody is making this vital connection between the past and the present using the magical Knights Templar square found in ancient Pompeii, in use at least 1000 years before the mythical legend called the Knights Templar was written into the narrative.

How do I connect the mystery surrounding the Knights Templar Cross to the mattang, an ancient GPS?

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/TemplarMagicSquare_1000.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickpalmribsa.gif

And why do I suggest this is a vital connection?
Well I do feel I have proved in many of my posts, that by using the universal archetypes as guide, allows the initiate to penetrate and catch glimpses of the super consciousness that few encounter in their daily lives.
Lets face it, I continue to make *NEW* discoveries all the time, because I wake up and go to bed with intent.
I bury myself in archetype 24/7.
I am not bragging, I just want to share a confession.
I now know what intent brings. That is why I consciously now make attempts to have my left brain converse with the right brain, I am conducting an experiment you could say.
Mi 13 Step AAA meetings yield results.

Ascension u-sing
Archetypal
Alchemy

Today is no exception.
What is, what is....:rolleyes:

Do you know how the Polynesians used that navigation tool?
The answer is sublime and poetic and beautiful and gives us a clue to unlocking the secrets of wave interaction.

w a v e >>> i d e n t i f i c a t i o n

HELLO Mr. Physics scientist expert please listen to this vital clue to solving the mystery of gravity, it could be found elsewhere, ya know!!!!!
:eek:

The Polynesians used this tool (made from palm ribs bound together using coconut fibers), to help them navigate through the expansive Pacific ocean, a macrocosmic ocean filled with water, and water is made up of different kinds of waves, some are big and some are small and microscopic.
They actually used that tool to help them identify the ‘different types of waves’ they would encounter when traveling from island to island…they believed the waves of the ocean contained recognizable patterns, like the stars above.
The ancients would hold the mattang near the water at the bow or prow of the boat, and these ancient sailors would use this tool to help them identify the wave’s patterns.
The wave patterns could help them determine where the major islands lay and where reef barriers break the ocean’s surface.

The Polynesians claim their mythic ancestors bequeathed the mattang to them.
It was seen as a survival tool.
(origins unknown...though the mythical Mu is a possibility)

To be passed from one generation to the next.
The archetypal belief held was that they were traveling the same mythic journey that their ancestors had traveled, they read the same wave patterns their ancestors read, thus past and present evolves toward the future.

Still with mi?

Step 1 join together the 4 letter A lphas and the 4 letter O megas from the Templar magic square (btw as I have pointed out, it is a square whose true origin is unknown)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/knightstemplarmagicsquarerotated45d.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickpalmribsa.gif

It should look something like this after you rotate it 45 degrees.
Note how in the beginning stages it matches the mattang rather nicely.
Continue to play with the design.
Working through it yourself, seeing the various esoteric crosses that can be identified, the geometry, all of it helps tremendously in activating the archetypal right brain.

Step 2 We now cross reference what we know about the mattang with what we can learn from the Knights Templar 'magic' square.

I want to suggest this archetypal approach could offer us insights into the quantum realm of wave theory...to help us guide the ARK called Earth.

Who do we have leaning over the prow of the ocean linear taking readings as the titanic ship of fools called Earth, plows through the luminiferous aether we have called space, the final frontier?
Who is at the helm?

CERN?
NASA?
Vatican?
George Bush?
G7? (god or gee 7 nations)
Shadow government?
:cool::cool:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickchart.jpghttp://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/TemplarMagicSquare_1000.gif

Here is what I am going to do over the next few daze, having been given access to this valuable clue, a clue I have shared with you as received, not to be squandered.
http://www.janesoceania.com/micronesian_stick_chart/

>>>>I am going to acquaint myself with stick theory ... because I can feel in mi heart it is a key to unlocking a viable string theory. :yes:

Remember this 'insight' I offer is brand new...we have all just entered this esoteric room together...I am going to start reading about these 'ribs' bound together, found in the Solomon islands...a simply made tool yet complex in its archetypal implications, an ancient tool that may help us navigate the temple called earth through space, the luminiferous aetheric waters that the experts 121 years ago said did NOT exist.

Wrong turn taken by the Captain of the titanic ARK...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/chakana.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/StoneMetateFragmentNicaragua-1.gif

And then of course it is not difficult at all to connect the mattang to the Peruvian Cross called the Chakana. And the Chakana can be easily connected to Solomon’s Knot, and the swastika and most importantly the grand cycle of TIME called Precession of the Equinoxes or the Great Year.

Exercise:
To find the Chakana in the Knights Templar Square join the letters T-A-O and then convert to the mattang.
:yes:

I want to suggest that the ancient mattang might help us, the modern man, who are the descendants, the followers navigate through the ’stargate’.
A ’stargate’ that might be connected to 2012.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4sacredsitesvatican2.jpg http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikainSantaCatalina_Nazi300px.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/knightstemplarmagicsquareCrossForme.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickrotated.gif

Who understands what I am hinting at and seeing the profound connections here?
Maybe with a little help from abrahadabra, what if together we formulate that archetypal lever that the archetypal Archimedes was hinting at, to help Mohammed move a titanic mountain of an ARK … to help turn things around?

Here is a challenge I have taken on, you may want to join me.
Betcha we can come up with a ‘theory of everything’ , playing with and probing the universe with the mattang and other divine archetypes, faster than a particle physicist can, playing with his particle accelerator?
;)

namaste

Raphael

p.s.

just so you know the Polynesians were tuned into the cosmos ... here is another design of theirs.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/vesciapiscesmeddo.jpg

The Mi-Do?
Hey hey, I can do sing that tune...lalalalala tickles nancy's fancy.
Look familiar fellas?
Some of the men may need to get down on their hands and knees to recognize it. What would Colonel Sanders say?
I worship it.

http://www.goddesscafe.com/yoni/sheila.gif
********:rofl:***********

This is also a good perspective from which to appreciate the view and indulge in the breakfast of chimpions.
But you would know that Oz...being down under Sheila, ya dig?

Raphael

10-04-2008, 11:01 AM

Note: how the right hand one with the verticle stripes force the circles to flow clockwise at the top and anticlockwise at the bottom and at some point if you could freeze frame it there are four gateways - like the swastika.

cheers from the + half of OZ

4 gateways - like the swastika?That comment got me thinking...and if I go to sleep thinking, I often wake up with a feeling.

Yes it is apparent there could be 4 gateways and the symbol of a cross '+' suggests that would be the conclusion.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/vitruvian-man-prophecy-rotated.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Bab-ilu3soulgatesrotated.jpg

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/sound-and-369-bab-ilu-the-gate-of-god/

But many of my images are in fact suggesting 3 gateways.
And using the Vitruvian Man as a model, we can see how 4 gateways can become 3.

And the sublime narrative continues.

How do 4 gateways become 3?
Can we make up a formula using the powerful archetypes of X and Y and the numbers 2 and 3?
Remember you can compose all music using 2s and 3s.

So what is the sublime formula involving X and Y?

Each set has 23 single chromosomes - 22 autosomes (http://www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEPC/NIH/gene27.php#Autosome) and an X or Y sex chromosome (http://www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEPC/NIH/gene27.php#Sex%20chromosomes).

XX = female
XY = male

So apparently the only difference between a man and a woman rests on the sex chromosome.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9936/1pengr.gif
Place a man Y over a woman X and you will form a 5 pointed star.
2 + 3 = 5
And as has been suggested...nature prefers or defaults to asymmetry, in choosing shapes like the pentagon over the hexagon.

That would the archetypal representation on a molecular level, however as another intrepid seeker has done for us in the image above...is plot the Vitruvian man relative to the 3 Gates using an astrological wheel...which can point toward only one thing worth preserving as a marker of the Macro clock...the Sun.

Precession of the Equinoxes...everything defaults to this cycle, referred to by the ancients as 'The Great Year'.
The pyramids point toward it...the stone and wood 'henges' do to.
The Indian medicine wheel tracks the same event...

Today 95% of the sheeple don't even know what Precession of the Equinoxes is, yet alone by its lesser known but more esoteric, highly revealing names like The Great Year or the Platonic Year.

Ignore history and HIS-story will repeat itself. :rolleyes:

What the Sun and Moon do during those approx. 26,000 years was symbolized by one symbol.
The swastika/solomon's knot long ago was a symbol for both actions, of both the Sun and the Moon.
That is why it was referred to as the Key to Universal Movement.
That is why since WWII it has been flashed with intent....linking a divine symbol with an evil act.
The intent is to subdue its effect on the collective unconsciousness, to have people associate it with a 'negative' action.

It is the Key to Universal Movement and has been with us since the beginning of time.
I smell with my chiral asymmetric nose...a pagan rat in the Vatican.

namaste

Raphael

p.s. did you know your smell sense is both chiral and asymmetric, two characteristics shared by the swastika?
Maybe one of the reasons why women tend to have a better sense of smell...something I have noticed.

wiz-oz

10-04-2008, 11:23 AM

Raphael, a great find. I suspect that the Mattang was a device, but I'm not convined it needed to be that complex to measure waves. But could have been perhaps handed down with some knowledge lost as to it's true meaning and use. But I have nothing to confirm that. I found links to an old book The Migration of Symbols

by Goblet d'Alviella

[1894]

which discussed the origins and variations of the Swastika and has some excellent drawings I haven't seen before, see:

ON THE GAMMADION OR SWASTIKA.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/mosy06.htm

Different Interpretations of the SWASTIKA.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/mosy07.htm

Probable Meaning of the SWASTIKA.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/mosy08.htm

The Birth-Place of the SWASTIKA.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/mosy09.htm

However, I do like the theory:

I must here call attention to an ingenious theory brought forward, in 1891, by M. E. Harroy, director of the Ecole moyenne de Verviers, at the Archæological and Historical Congress of Brussels, to account for the origin of the gammadion, and its connection with the equilateral cross. 2 (http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/mosy08.htm#fn_168) He believes he has discovered, in the arrangement of certain cromlechs, indications which would point to their having formed a sort of astronomical dial, as exact as it was primitive. For its construction
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sym/mosy/img/fig031.jpg
FIG. 31.
Fig. 31
he only requires three stones. At twenty paces from a point of observation, A, let us place, he says, a stone, B, in the direction in which the sun rises on the 21st of June; then at the same distance

p. 70
from A place a second stone, C, in the direction in which the sun rises on the 21st of December.
The line B C will point north and south; A E east, and A E´ west. A B, A E, A C, and A E, will give the directions in which the sun rises on the 21st of June, the 21st of September, the 21st of December, and the 21st of March respectively; A C´, A E´, A B´, and A E´, the directions in which it will set on the same dates. This cross, illustrating the course of the sun, will naturally become the symbol of the luminary, and four strokes might have been added to the extremities of the lines in order to give "the notion of impulsion of the rotatory movement of the regulating orb.

Because the knowledge of the seasonal cycles would have been central to survival and therefore it's regular currency would have been worshipped to and made a symbol to remember or pass on the knowledge.

I know of Jain he's based in Queensland I have contributed some information on the number 108 and a simple menthod of cross adding numbers.

Like take your birthday to work a life path number and punch it into a calculator and divide by 9 the first number after the decimal place is the reduced number, except when it's zero in which case it's a 9. eg 23/05/2008 would add to 20 or 2 in a calculator 23,052,008/9 = ....4.222 any string of numbers will work, try it! (you won't find this in any maths book.)

I resonate with the image of the Mattang are archetypal icon due to the double vesica piscis and is embedded in my interpretation of the colour wheel with mathematical allocations, proving that green & magenta from observations are the poles and have the same frquency, but spin in opposite directions, see graphic:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ColourMaths.jpg

Added note: check any info on colour and you'll find magenta absorbs green.

I think there's enough here to absorb. I will still review your info Raphael when I have more time.

Thanks for sharing. Cheers

Raphael

10-04-2008, 05:00 PM

moved

wiz-oz

10-05-2008, 09:34 PM

What I omitted to include in the colour chart above was that each of the three layers which add to 28 x 3 = 84 in total or [7 x 12] which is the number of colours and the pole number 7. Which makes the number assignment and pattern complete in itself.

I've updated the graphic to show how the Mattang relates with the upcapped Great Pyramid, Swastika, Maltese & Iron Cross all fitting with the two opposing vesica piscis and the four circles, which = 1440 degrees and in minutes = 864,000 diameter of sun in Miles and in seconds = 518400 which are harmonics of 144 = gematria for light and 5184 which is the decimal of the GP slope of 51.84 degrees and 1/5 of the precessional cycle.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ColourMaths1.jpg

MythMath

10-07-2008, 05:50 AM

Very nice stuff, wiz-oz... :yes:

Raphael

10-07-2008, 08:45 AM

Very nice stuff, wiz-oz... :yes:

:yes: :rofl:

from all perspectives it shines

namaste

Darin Hamel

10-07-2008, 02:03 PM

In 3-D how many spheres is this?

What I omitted to include in the colour chart above was

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ColourMaths1.jpg

Raphael

10-07-2008, 07:09 PM

I think there's enough here to absorb.
Cheers

deeper and deeper we go...meet you in the middle of the earth...first there was a tunnel and then the chunnel, now two funnels meeting in middle 'C' ya there?

Swirling in opposite directions, approaching from opposite ends of za vorld?
The wiz of oz and 4 archetypal seekers?

So Oz I need to know why you associated certain colors with certain numbers on your color chart.
Was it random or was there a chaos to your order?
:eek:

I just want to mention that the Peruvian/Inca Cross called the Chakana is jumping out at me too, in that color chart.
Along with the mattang.
Not surprising.
Same source of inspiration?

This is getting quite interesting.
I feel ancient wisdom is coming back to assist us in our time of need.
Another nice twist to the ongoing narrative.

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

10-08-2008, 04:48 AM

Darin wrote:

In 3-D how many spheres is this?

FOUR!

wiz-oz

10-08-2008, 05:07 AM

Raph wrote:

So Oz I need to know why you associated certain colors with certain numbers on your color chart.
Was it random or was there a chaos to your order?

The background to it was that I was researching colour healing and I found from my own observations with a prism that cetain colours are a border phenomenon. ie: border of black and white - some obsrobed, others reflected.

I found that red/yellow and Blue/Violet were the border colours hence the four circles. That when a black dot on a white background viewed the border colours were green and magenta.

From that I devised the 2D diagram, but I needed to prove which one were the 'poles' as I wanted to create a geometric device using 6 colours [RYBVGM] only - but the polarity was important.

So from the diagram I assigned numbers to prove my theory and as you can see it's a simple enough process, but took me a long time to understand why Green and magenta had to be the same value (7) to work out. Because obviously they couldn't be the same.

What I later discovered was that they have opposite spin and green is obsorbed by magenta. They then became the poles.

Forget about light generated colours being additive or subtractive and pigments etc are different concepts. What I was doing was for healing work. Which I no longer do. But the device did work.

I found it amazing at the time that I could assign simple numbers to the 3 levels and by addition and division and arrive at a process that matches what I was observing and that the values =

28 or 1 (white) on each level and that total 84 = 7 x 12. 84 also by cross addition = 3.

I will post some diagrams later.

Given that the Mattang measures waves and their frequency. the same principle would apply at both a micro and macro level. The current going past an island would be the same process as light going thru' the slit experiment I would think. Both creates a interference pattern.

wiz-oz

10-08-2008, 06:31 AM

Here's the image of my border theory of colour and you can see for yourself what I am saying in the previous post how the green and magenta are in the centre and why the 2D diagram is formed the way it is:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Prism_Block1.jpg

Also I have made a 3D colour wheel using the same principles of the 6 colours being polar using the Octagon and 18 ping-pong balls. 12 coloured with 3 black, 3 white which form the Star of David pattern. Note also the pattern of the colours as they cover the Octagon is a saw-tooth shape - a wave (not quite apparent from the angle of the image). The stacking of the balls is also interesting in that they're OCTaves of 1-4-8-4-1 or Fibonnaci numbers of 5-8-5 and in the centre is an empty space for another ball so it can be 1-4-9-4-1 = 19 or 1+9 or 1. All interconnected metaphysically.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/3DColourWheel.jpg

Raphael

10-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Given that the Mattang measures waves and their frequency. the same principle would apply at both a micro and macro level. The current going past an island would be the same process as light going thru' the slit experiment I would think. Both creates a interference pattern.

Those are exactly my thoughts. :thumbsup:
And I still say those double slit experiments are null and void.
Standing wave theory also suggests the same thing.

The experts forgot to account for SOUNDs they could not hear.
Pulses of non-electromagnetic longitudinal sound waves?

We need to back track to 1887.
121 years ago we chose the left path (math = left brain) over the right path. (myth = right brain)
We chose math over myth.
Myth says 121 = 4
Math says I am crazy.

Myth describing the Macrocosm and the microcosm was ancient and had been bequeathed to us...origins unknown.
Math describing the Macrocosm and the microcosm was still in its infancy relative to the ancient myths and appeared to be a product of the evolving mind.
We let the preschoolers with their slide rules take charge.
Wrong turn.

Math without myth is folly.
Science without myth=religion has no purpose.
Myth=religion without science becomes corrupt.
Science without myth, is Lost in Space.
I see a checks and balances between the two actually.
Myth provides the archetypal framework for which to build a Valhalla, Eden, Utopia etc...using math.

Science took a disastrous wrong turn with big M and small m.
Yup Michelson and morley.
Michelson got the Nobel prize so he can be the big M.
morley thus is the small m.

The empirical wizards Michelson + morley using only 'light science', proved using questionable empirical methods, certainly by :confused: today's standards, suggested and then proved that the luminiferous aether, that the ancients had believed in, DID not exist.

But M + m did NOT account for the SOUNDS that the Chandra telescope 116 years later says are in fact there, present ALL the time.

So let us do those double slit experiments again and put Chandra in the room with the 'experts' observing photons. :yes:

Now more magic wiz.
U and mi are polar opposites on this egg, and this combination seems to work well in this exchange as you shall see.
Down under veiled by the Canadian shield?
Too bad you weren't a woman we could have fun taking turns being on top.
But I would still bring mi Trojan shield to cover up mi dirty sword.

The magic of intent and intuition >>> using the mattang:
Your intent was to heal, and understanding color intimately lead you to designing this color chart.
My intent was to understand more intimately a unity that I knew/felt existed, a unity that could be explained to a child. Thus the unity concept needed to be real simple...counting to only nine is a good start...and keeping things as simple as possible, for mi has been key.

Myth before Math is the KEY to educating the youth and bringing forth the archetypal realm of super consciousness.
Rudy Steiner and mi see the value of a Waldorf system.
Problem with Waldorf (IMHO) is that it had first and foremost 'Christian' roots, and would default to purely 'Trinity' values when the going got tough, or the Madame within the group, felt perhaps under the patriarchal wing once again and thus departed to seek other values in the east, among the Hindu, Buddhists and Jains not the Christian Janes taking commands from grunting TarZens.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MattangNORTHblocked.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/WIZOZColourMathMattang.jpg

Please note the mattang is an ancient survival tool :rofl: of unknown origin, and is to be used for when your world gets turned upside down or inside out...
:yes:

I noticed 2 anomalies on the mattang.
I noticed 2 palm ribs that were unique to it's structure.
I want to suggest one of those ribs might be Adam's.
Metaphorically of course.
But remember this is ancient stick/rib theory that matches string/knot theory.

I have mi mythical archetypal reasons for placing those BLUE lines over both the mattang and your color chart.
Being down near the South Pacific is rather poetic too.
And sublime poetry and narratives is the language the creator alchemist uses.

Take a look at the numbers running along the 'equator' in your color chart dude, reading from EAST to WEST...
:bluegenie:

4 ... is how it all started for mi, 4 years ago.

5, 1, 8, 12 in mi esoteric books is the same as 11, 2, 5, 8

Hey Wiz have I sent you an invitation to the party happening in crypt/Room 1258?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/knights-templar-and-da-vincis-2012-awakening-in-room-1258/
You are in, bring your color chart as an entry paSSport.
Remember the north entrance is locked for now.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4sacredsitesvatican2.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikainSantaCatalina_Nazi300px.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickrotated.gif

Thus I feel the mattang carries the same significance as both CARD X of the Tarot and St. Peter's Square and the symbol I found in a Peruvian Monastery.

Now it becomes clear why I wanted to establish the origin of those numbers relative to the colors.
Your source is the archetypal super consciousness.
Mi source is the archetypal super consciousness....

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/AmiensCathedralheadofJohntheBaptist.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/knightstemplarmagicsquareCrossForme.jpg

5 X 5 GRID is one of those archetypes that the super consciousness 'recognizes'...default, reset mechanism, maybe?

:yes:

Knight's Templar Magic Square found in the ruins of Pompeii, 1000 years before the Knights Templar (existed as the Knights Templar), is on the right.

Another lovely little piece of archetypal magic carried forward.
Once you recognize the patterns...the world becomes magical, full of bullshit, but still magical.
The image on the left is the symbolic Head of John the Baptist in Amiens Cathedral.
The head was brought there by the Templars from Constantinople.

The Baptist's head

The initial impetus for the building of the cathedral came from the installation of the reputed head of John the Baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) on 17 December 1206. The head was part of the loot of the Fourth Crusade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade), which had been diverted from campaigning against the Turks to sacking the great Christian city of Constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople). A sumptuous reliquary was made to house the skull. Although later lost, a 19th century replica still provides a focus for prayer and meditation in the North aisle.
NORTH again?

Now go to this site and take a REAL close look at the symbolism found in Amiens.
:mad: that is an Order emanating from mi KA0S
Full of quatrefoils and swastikas...ja, ja, jah, way, Yahweh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiens_Cathedral

And the Riddle of the Sphinx explains what 'north' represents on a fundamental level.
(2bee continued)

:rolleyes:

Wiz apparently we are on the yellow brick road together ... :cool: :cool: ... trust me ... this will be the adventure of yer life ... your miSSion impoSSible ... are you ready?

The journey apparently starts with intent...like this next symbol suggests.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Ireland.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MiloWolff_theKeytoUniversalMovement.gif

Ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory preserved on a stone.
That is what I feel that stone is suggesting, in mi heart.
:rolleyes:

namaste

Raphael

p.s. I need to post the following to illustrate the poetry embedded within the narrative.
It is beyond words ... it is divine ... and divinity can only be recognized if you seek unity.
IMHO
It is a real simple formula...just like spherical standing wave theory.
Let me introduce others that might be attending the party in the crypt / Room 1258.

re: Amiens Cathedral

The paucity of documentation concerning the construction of the Gothic cathedral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture) may be in part the result of fires that destroyed the chapter archives in 1218 and again in 1258—a fire that damaged the cathedral itself. Bishop Evrard de Fouilly initiated work on the cathedral in 1220. Robert de Luzarches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_of_Luzarches) was the architect until 1228, and was followed by Thomas de Cormont until 1258.

St. George the Dragon Slayer is attending the party too!
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/key-528-st-george-and-liars-dragons-and-bear-sterns/

Raphael

10-09-2008, 01:59 PM

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MattangNORTHblocked.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/StandingWaveMattangChakana.gif

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/KnightsTemplarmattangstickchart.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/knightstemplarmagicsquarerotated45d.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/AmiensCathedralheadofJohntheBaptist.jpg http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/standing-wave-patterns.gif

What would happen if we placed the Barrow Lozenge, the Knights Templar Magic Square or a Polynesian mattang over 'STANDING WAVES'?

What could a Polynesian sailor or the head of St. John the Baptist tell a modern physicist or modern astronomer about how waves move in space?

Eh?

:yes:

If we do not apply ancient Chinese secrets...we are fu*ked.
IMHO

namaste

Raphael

Darin Hamel

10-09-2008, 03:23 PM

Darin wrote:

FOUR!
Thought so.... Looks like a 4 cell blastocyst (embryo). It just needs the larger sphere encircling the 4.
http://www.advancedfertility.com/pics/4cellsembryo.jpg

frater luciferi

10-09-2008, 03:38 PM

i was in the bathroom a while back of a good will and i ended up noticing that the tile patterns were actually strange intertwined swazi patterns...of course as of late i have been seeing swastikas everywhere

Darin Hamel

10-09-2008, 07:46 PM

Is there a 3-dimensional standing-wave patter in liquid that looks more like a swastika? The first 5 sorta look like the flaming swastika I saw in the center of my brain, especially the second one! Or have you seen the vibrating sand patterns using sound? Is there one of those that looks like a swastika?
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/standing-wave-patterns.gif

MythMath

10-09-2008, 11:51 PM

Kymotropic Squarewaves and Swastikas

Dragon

10-10-2008, 04:55 AM

The funny thing is in a live audio application within, or near a structure, a standing wave is the enemy so to speak. It creates all kinds of resonance issues that can cascade into feedback, or damage items structurally if the frequency is a duplicate or harmonic of the resonant frequency of the space within the molecular matrix, or the matrix itself.

Which is great if you want things that explode, liquify, or disintegrate. But not so good if your are mixing a concert.

Love the scope work though, to be able to see what I feel/hear. Interesting side note - when I have mix in foggy, rainy, or smoky conditions, If it's loud enough I can see the pressure/sound waves flow and stand if I watch carefully.

MythMath

10-10-2008, 05:13 AM

Smoke and Mirrors, baby... :p

wiz-oz

10-10-2008, 10:23 AM

With the Clandon Lozenge, I decided to add a series of 10 pentagons, however couldn't get it to work on the image, so did one separately, as below:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/DecagonClandon.jpg

Note that the pentagons show two slanted cubes and a cross. I've also added a top down view of DNA with a Carbon atom:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/DNA-top.jpghttp://www.cassiopaea.org/images/carbon.jpg

Microcosm & Macrocosm and the carbon world in flatland. I hope that Mythmath might have software to superimpose the 10 pentagons over the lozenge or someone else on the forum. But I guess you well and truly "get the picture(s)"!

cheers from OZ (time to put some ZZZZZd's in this OZ).

Raphael

10-10-2008, 12:02 PM

Raphael

10-10-2008, 12:34 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/DNA-top.jpg

Microcosm & Macrocosm and the carbon world in flatland. I hope that Mythmath might have software to superimpose the 10 pentagons over the lozenge or someone else on the forum. But I guess you well and truly "get the picture(s)"!

cheers from OZ (time to put some ZZZZZd's in this OZ).

hmm carbon world in flatland?
:rofl:

when you vake up comrade could the flatlander downunder answer the flatliner from above a question?

does your image above have a connection to this particular kind of pentgon/pentagram tiling?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Pentagontile2-icn.png

Pentagon Tile by Alexander Braun
New pentagon pattern discovered?

"Soon I noticed that the ring of pentagons is followed by a ring of stars and then by pentagons again in a perpetual rotation based on the power of six, i.e. 6x6x6"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/AlexanderBraunSo wiz Oz is there a correlation between your work and Alex Braun's?

His pattern is based on 6x6x6....?

666 :o_O:

...and Carbon 12 which all life NEEDS to live, as a requisite to life, can also be called 666.
Man is a life form based primarily on carbon 12, we also participate in the carbon cycle.

Carbon 12 is ...

6 protons
6 neutrons
6 electrons

CROP CIRCLES and pentagons?

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/crop9408b.jpg

Fig. 8.3 The 1994 ‘Web’ (fig. 3.9) is based on fivefold geometry. Two pentagrams fit perfectly into the formation (Jansen, pp. 77-80)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/cropcirc2.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/crop9707a.jpg

Pentagon inside a Hexagon?
Remember how nature prefers the asymmetry of the pentagon?

Fig. 8.4 Melick, the Netherlands, 18 July 1997. Threefold, fourfold, fivefold, and sixfold geometry are hidden between the circle and its three successive rings (Janssen, pp. 22-3; Haselhoff, pp. 64-7).3 RINGS AGAIN?
Which reminds me of another rather interesting connection between 3 and 7 and Saturn.

The total number of rings is seven, and each one was given a letter between A and G for its name. Three of the rings, A, B and C, are visible from Earth with a telescope.

Important to remember...much of ancient myth keeps pace with what was visible to the naked eye.
Telescopes may give you the advantage of 'detail'.
But I once heard that 'the devil is in the detail'.

Am I surrounded by anti-christs?
I feel I might be.
Real devils the sheeple are.
Thermodynamic Carbon Life Forms that like to stew.
I smell rack of lamb in mi parts.
How about you Oz.
What's cookin' outback?
You like el diablo dante or el diablo dente?

:laugh:

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

10-10-2008, 08:53 PM

Raph, it's synchonistic in a sense, because when I signed off I had in mind to put the Lozenge decagon thru' the "hex-test" and this seems more appropriate than the pentagons. The hexagons are in red:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Hex-decagon-Clandon2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ClandonLozenge-Decagon.jpg

I'm not familar with the "Tiler" and when I tried to find a rendition of 10 pentagons inside a decagon. Google didn't show any images. But what it did produce was one of Euclid's Posulates:

http://www.gogeometry.com/geometry/euclid_elements_book_xiii_10.jpg

A bit off topic, but The fascinating part is that the three angles of 36+60+72 degrees = 168 which in octaves starts at 21/42/84/168 and the points of the 3 polygons are 10+6+5 =21. Sound octaves at play and the numbers 3,6,9. As the yellow triangle is 90-30-60 degrees

Then you take 168 degrees and convert it to seconds 604,800 and drop the zeros and create the octaves downwards 6048/3024/1512/756 base numbers of the Great Pyramid 756ft (one side) - third octave down and 3024ft (perimeter).

I started this post and ended with something else - go figure.:eek:

Raph, my comment about flatland was the fact that the images are all in 2D.:confused:

MythMath

10-11-2008, 07:41 AM

Damn, that's some mighty inspiring geometry... :yes:

Clandon Lozenge Graphics (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=3221)

wiz-oz

10-12-2008, 05:15 AM

Mythmath, wow you certainly done the ancient ones justice that worked the orginal geometry. I find them quite powerful images in their own right.

One extra one to try is to add ten squares and 10 pentagons within the decagon. That way we have nine within 10. Or nine with one. See my feeble attempt below:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/SquarePentDecagon.jpg

Note how the squares and pents create a hexagon and pentagon at the centre 5+6 =11. There's an element here of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts

MM, many thanks for your wonderful enhancements to my diagrams.

MythMath

10-12-2008, 08:16 AM

One extra one to try is to add ten squares and 10 pentagons within the decagon.

MM, many thanks for your wonderful enhancements to my diagrams.

Thanks right back to you for your work, too... ;)

Check out post #2 for the Clandon Squares and Pents:

Clandon Lozenge Graphics (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=3221)

Raphael

11-25-2008, 12:13 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ClandonLozenge-Decagon.jpg

I would like to respond to this image later wiz.

Here is a great site for sources re: swastika
http://www.kessinger.net/

search ... 'swastika'

Result will be many great esoteric publications available...
I recently ordered Thomas Wilson's great work on the swastika.
http://www.kessinger.net/searchresults-orderthebook.php?ISBN=076610818X

Which can also be found online for free too.
;)

In this case I prefer the bound edition.

namaste

Raphael

Raphael

11-28-2008, 12:49 PM

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Ireland.gif

What is the origin of this ancient symbol?
Thomas Wilson who published an extensive report on it in 1894 called it the "Earliest of Symbols"
That was in 1894 and the mystery surrounding its origins ... were still a mystery.
But today we have the Chandra telescope, positioned outside the bubble we reside in...it picks up a 'clearer picture' of outer space, waves not distorted by clouds or the mirages created by the reigns down here ...
In how many ways can we connect the swastika to SOUND?

Thomas Wilson in 1894 made reference, connecting the SWASTIKA to SOUND.
Go to this website.
Download this GREAT book for free.
It is one of the greatest books ever written on this symbol.
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/sw/

After downloading...go to the top of page 772, and read the reference to the origin of the word SWASTIKA and the EAR.
At this point I want to remind the reader of the following coincidences.
Ancient Sumer, Inanna/Venus is associated with the 8-pointed Star, called the Gate of God which is known also as the Bab-Ilu (Babylon), and it is also an ancient symbol for Jehovah.
And in the story of the descent of Inanna...another valuble reference is made to SOUND and the EAR.

... when we consider that this symbol (swastika) is not only prehistoric but most importantly predates writing and language, it MUST be noted, it heralds from a preliterate era, any references in written stories are thus referencing oral traditions that were being recorded at that time, obvious isn't it?
I believe this cannot be understated, so I will underline this entire statement.

:laugh:

The clue we are left with...
Undetectable non-electromagnetic SOUND waves MUST play a role in the creation game, along with the electro-weak ones?

namaste

Raphael

Raphael

11-29-2008, 11:56 AM

Can we connect the swastika to SOUND?
In a similar fashion, how we connected Inanna to SOUND?

The EAR in hEAR...the part that is tuned into the BANG part of the Big BANG?

EAR this :laugh:

Very little is known of Indian art before the third century B.C., the period when the Buddhist sovereigns began their public buildings. (1) (http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/007.php#bottom1)

The name Svastika, however, can be traced (in India) a little farther back. It occurs as the name of a particular sign in the old grammar of Panani, about a century earlier. Certain compounds are mentioned there in which the last word iskarna "ear.: * * * One of the signs for marking cattle was the Svastika [fig. 41], and what Panani teaches in his grammar is that when the compound is formed, sraxtika-karna, i.e., "having the ear marked with the sign of a Svastika," the final a of Svastika is not to be lengthened, while it is lengthened in other compounds, such as satra-karma, i.e., "having the ear marked with the sign of a sickle."

D'Alviella (2) (http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/007.php#bottom2) reinforces Max Müller's statement that Panini lived during the middle of the fourth century, B.C. Thus it is shown that the word Swastika had been in use at that early period long enough to form an integral part of the Sanskrit language and that it was employed to illustrate the particular sounds of the letter and its grammar.
Max Müller continues his explanation: (3) (http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/007.php#bottom3) ...
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/007.php
Swastika and SOUND and gravity and Phi and ?

Is Phi an ancient 'String Theory'?
Would be a good one.
:yes:

Undetected SOUND waves affect quantum waves/particles similar to the way sand bounces when exposed to audible SOUND frequencies. (cymatics)
Same thing happening on the quantum realm.
IMHO
One is visible and can be observed.
The other truth is invisible and keeps the scientists employed at CERN for no real good reason.

http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/figs/fig255.gif

Does that glyph look similar to the one from Ireland, placed inside a quatrefoil?
Interestingly it is the asymmetrical image of the glyph for repeat in music, that we see in the stone from Ireland. ;)

The Kansas --- The Rev. J. Owen Dorsey (3) (http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/085.php#bottom3) describes the mourning customs of the Kansas Indians. In the course of his description he tells of a council of ceremony held among these Indians to decide if they should go on the warpath. Certain sacred songs were sung which had been arranged according to a chart, which Mr. Dorsey introduces as pl. 20, page 676. The outside edge of this chart bore twenty-seven ideographs, which suggest or determine the song or speech required. No. 1 was the sacred pipe; No. 2, the maker of all songs; No. 3, song of another old man who gives success to the hunters; No. 4 (fig. 255 in the present paper) is the Swastika sign, consisting of two ogee lines intersection each other, the ends curved to the left. Of it, Mr. Dorsey says only the following:

Fig. 4 Tradje wayun, wind songs. The winds are deities; they are Bazanta (at the pines), the east wind; Ak'a, the south wind; A'k'a jifigaor A'k'uya, the west wind; and Huia (toward the cold), the north wind. The warriors used to remove the hearts of slain foes, putting them in the fire as a sacrifice to the winds.
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/085.php

Wind Songs eh?
Swastikas = Wind Songs = Holy Spirit?

I wonder if the Kansas Indians have ever heard of the infamous Solomon's Song?
They probably would sing it when doing a Judeao/Christian reign dance...
:laugh:

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

11-29-2008, 10:13 PM

Raph, the Australian Aborigines use Songlines instead of a written language:

Songlines are an ancient cultural concept, meme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme) and motif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_(music)) perpetuated through oral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral) lore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore) and singing and other storytelling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storytelling) modalites such as dance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance) and painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painting). Songlines are an intricate series of song cycles that identify landmarks and subtle tracking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracking_(hunting)) mechanisms for navigation. These songs often evoke how the features of the land were created and named during the Dreaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime). The Dreaming Spirits as they travelled across the Earth, created and named trees, rocks, waterholes, animals and other natural phenomena. Molyneaux & Vitebsky (2000, p.30) augment further: the Dreaming Spirits "also deposited the spirits of unborn children and determined the forms of human society," thereby establishing tribal law and totemic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totemic) paradigms.
By singing the songs in the appropriate sequence, indigenous peoples could navigate vast distances (often travelling through the deserts of Australia's interiority). The continent of Australia is a system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System) of songlines, some of which are of a few kilometres, whilst others traverse hundreds of kilometres through disparate (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disparate&action=edit&redlink=1) terrain and lands of many different indigenous peoples ~ peoples who may speak markedly different languages and champion significantly different cultural traditions.
An interesting feature of the paths is that, as they span the lands of several different language groups, different parts of the song are said to be in those different languages. Thus the whole song can only be fully understood by a person speaking all the relevant languages.

The interesting bit I find with cymatics as per this image below:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Cymatics3.jpg

is that the lines that come into our reality are the lowest frequency on the plate. So the song-lines in this case could be generated out of the silent parts of the aether, not the energetic ones. So that's energy conservation in a material world. The thought came to me, that would indicate that the larger the universe/dimension the lower the vibrational frequencies. So higher dimensions would be smaller requiring more energy to sustain them.

wiz-oz

11-29-2008, 10:27 PM

CONNECTING THE DOTS -CROP CIRCLES, ANCIENT BULLROARERS AND ET VISITATIONS

These three topics appear to be a strange mix, but all have a number of things in common:
(1) Their origins are unknown;
(2) They all straddle time, with their period and source unknown;
(3) They’re all enigmatic;
(4) Most importantly, they appear to involve some form of Sonics - infrasound.

This topic came up when Linda Mouton-Howe interviewed an ET Abductee on Whitley Strieber’s Dreamland program. Unfortunately it’s not in their archive now. However, I recall he said that while the ‘visitation’ was in progress he could hear a sound that he described as “a whirling sound like a kid’s jump-rope”. According to the story he has physical evidence of his ‘visitation’.

It reminded me that I had heard the same sound before. When I was a teenager I made a “Bullroarer” with a wooden ruler and string tied through a hole at one end. For those who have never heard one, see this link to an MP3 sample http://www.merlyn.be/Geluid/bullroarer.mp3 (http://www.merlyn.be/Geluid/bullroarer.mp3)

Then I read an online extract of Freddy Silva’s book “Secrets In the Fields” which included the Crop Glyph below in Clatford - May 1996 referring to Cymatics and the “ear-witness” account of a person experiencing within a crop circle sounds that were described as similar to an Australian Aboriginal Bullroarer. See full article: http://www.mail-archive.com/paranormal_stuff@yahoogroups.com/msg00465.html (http://www.mail-archive.com/paranormal_stuff@yahoogroups.com/msg00465.html)

While doing some research on Bullroarers I came across this ancient bronze Dodec Bullroarer featuring a keyhole in one face and many holes around the object from Asia dated around 2500 years old. This is in an article by Beth Hagens from England about “timbre”. See full article with this link:
http://www.oicm.umontreal.ca/cim05/cim05_articles/HAGENS_B_CIM05.pdf (http://www.oicm.umontreal.ca/cim05/cim05_articles/HAGENS_B_CIM05.pdf)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Clatford1996.gif http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Asiangeometric-Bullroarer.jpg

The Bullroarer I thought was unique to Australia, but have found it in Hawaiian, American Indian, African and many other cultures. Here’s a quote:

Known as the 'voice of God' to the Australian Aborigines and given to the males of the Clan at naming ceremonies or other auspicious occasions. To sound a Bullroarer it is swung lasso style which causes it to spin and make a 'humming type' sound. It is called by several different names including 'Burliwarni', 'Ngurrarngay', and 'Muypak'. They were used to display sacred symbols and sounded to warn the uninitiated that they were being shown. They were also used to send animals into ambush, and to alert one tribe of anothers presence, and in rainmaking ceremonies.

This type of instrument has been used all over the world. To the Maori it is called 'Purerehua'(butterfly), and it was used by North American Native cultures from the Athabaskan, Nootka, Yokuts, Pomo, Hopi, Aztec and more. The Navajo call it the 'groaning stick' (tsin di'ni) and use it to drive away evil or drive out illness. Made from pinewood that has been struck by lightning, covered with yucca pitch, and attached to a cord made from bighorn or buckskin. During Navajo sacred ceremonies, the medicine man uses the bullroarer to slice through the air, creating an opening that allows the Yei B'Chei (diety) to enter the physical world. In New Guinea it was placed inside humanlike effigies in the throat area symbolizing the spirit voice of the effigy and was sometimes used in ceremony.

A smaller version of the Bullroarer was used by the Maori known as 'Porotiti',and was used for healing by spinning over areas of rheumatism or arthritis, the sound vibration massages joints in a similar way to modern ultrasound. * The sound that the Bullroarer makes is sacred to the Apaches, within their culture it is not to be displayed or whirled outside of sacred circles.

Reference : http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id9.html (http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id9.html)

Which lead me to think that what may have started out as a child's toy (just a piece of wood with twine attached), became a sacred object after visitations from ETs. Here's a quote about the rituals:

In every instance the women and children believe that the noise made by twirling the roarer is the voice of a great spirit that comes to carry off the boy during initiation and in no case is a woman allowed to see one.

I can see the connections and how this association with Sky Spirits may have occurred. Assuming visitations and abductions are true, then they have been going on for a long time.

Connecting the dots. Here we have an Abductee describing ‘infrasonic’ sounds during his visitation. Could the ancient cultures been visited too by ET’s – to them they would be sky spirits and ‘infrasonics’ associated with physical manifestation and therefore become sacred. Or, perhaps they too witnessed crop formations being formed. Then we have recent evidence of such sounds in a UK crop field as mentioned. The cymatic formation in Chatford and the 3500 year old Bronze Dodec “Bullroarer” show a vibrational link across time that’s hard to dismiss. Did this Asian culture see a structure of an ET craft or the physical manifestation of infrasonics? Unless they understood on another level the shapes of various infrasonic sounds.

Of course everyone wants hard, physical evidence. But there is a commonality in all the information I have presented here and spans, who knows how longer period of time, and widespread amongst diverse and separate cultures with similar themes, so very hard dismiss the inferences and the connections are strong that similar technology is involved in each case.

cheers from the ancient Gondwana land

Raphael

12-01-2008, 08:16 AM

As Monteverdi once remarked, "the end of all good music is to affect the soul."
If sound is one of the formative principles behind crop circles, it is not
surprising that they are leaving psychological impressions on those whose
antennae are extended and receptive to their tune. great preceding post wiz...
that 'bullroarer' sounds very similar to the 'whirrrr' we hear when the racing cars fly by ... eh?
Long vs short wavelengths...
Red vs Blue

But a divine archetype can and will show up on MANY levels, in many guises...
As reminders maybe to help us remember those days in September?
To help us remember stuff like...Pagan Bullroar vs. Papal BULLSHIT?
PaSS the tiSSue please...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Asiangeometric-Bullroarer.jpg http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/vaticanaerial.jpg

We see a large cog interlocked with a smaller cog.
Remember those 18 pylons/cogs down beside the BLACK Door in St. Peter Square?
See a slight resemblance?
Enough to cast a doubt, regarding the Roman Catholic/Christian church? (holier than thou all other belief systems that has been veiled).
A hierarchal patriarchal structure that helped obfuscate a simple truth, with a self-serving desire to sit at the apex of the earthly domain and wield a domination over the sheeple?
Need proof?
:mad:
Tell me when to shut up....

LOCKs and KEYs control the game in the 4th dimension in regards to what else?

TIME?

The POWER and the GLORY?
What's love got to do with it?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/cogs13_20_52-1.jpg

Wheels resembling gears and cogs as envisioned by the Maya who never got around to inventing the wheel?

What would CARD X have to do with time. and cycles, and a prescribed fate?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpg

WHEEL of Fortune which illustrates the 4 Evangelists representing 4 Astrological Signs of the Horror-scopes?
SOUNDs like a monKEY trial...the dispute between creationism and evolution has not been solved.
Science and Religion need to get back into the courtroom.
I have some brand new 'dusted off' evidence I would like to present as exhibit 'X'.

St. Peter holds the KEYs eh?
;)

Guess that makes him the jailer?
:eek:

But hey....I have been digging a tunnel for the past 2000 years...
Time for a Great Escape...from the land of the golden patri-arches...

It is where the hero Stevie in the nick of Time, makes the quantum leap and jumps the final fence and finds himself a free whoa-man ... he becomes the Big Mac Queenie as he/she eludes the Malteasers doing the goose-step....
"I am legend" he/she declares, eluding those who never see the light of day...go back to shleep ya zombies...

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

12-07-2008, 07:51 AM

Swastika City 3600 yrs old found in Russia

In order to gain publicity, the early investigators described Arkaim as "Swastika City", "Mandala City", and "the ancient capital of early Aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan) civilization, as described in the Avesta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avesta) and Vedas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veda)". The swastika description refers to the floor plan of the site, which (with some imagination) may appear similar to the swastika symbol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika), albeit with rounded arms (similar to the lauburu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauburu)) attached to a central ring instead of a cross.

Built in the unique architectural mould of nordic Asgard, the most sacred shrine of the Aesir of which the Prose Edda relates that “men call it Troy,” Arkaim may have been a shrine dedicated to the Aryan Sun religion, yet the roots of its dedication would have lain ultimately in the far older cult of the Pole star. Essentially, this was the religion of the shaman, the wizard, the medicine-man and other wonder-workers in touch with the spirits of nature.
Thus the swastika, thought to be the exclusively Aryan symbol of sun-worship misappropriated by the Nazis,7 and found depicted on many of the clay pots unearthed in Arkaim, is an older religious and metaphysical symbol than that attached to the Aryan Sun God, its roots lying in totemic shamanism. René Guénon, the eminent French esotericist, points out that the swastika, symbolising eternal motion around a motionless centre, is a polar rather than a solar symbol, and as such was a symbol central to the Pole star cult, originally dedicated to a planetary deity connected to Ursa Major, the Great Bear. This centre, Guénon stresses, “constitutes the fixed point known symbolically to all traditions as the ‘pole’ or axis around which the world rotates…” The swastika is therefore known world-wide as the ‘sign of the pole.’8

Ar-Ka means Sky, and Im means Earth. Arkaim is a door through which a person who lives, or is trying to live, in harmony with his conscience enters a world of peace and wonder. It is a place where the Sky touches the Earth.

Reinforced settlements have different construction: oval,circle,square. Location of houses, housewifery parts, streets are defined by construction of external defense walls. The circles of Arkaim and Sintashta, squares of Ust'ye and Chekotai were the sacred models of Universe. By faith of Indo-Iranians the Universe repeated the magic figure of Mandala - the circle inserted in square.

http://perm-asha.chat.ru/arkaim_vid.jpg

ref: http://perm-asha.chat.ru/arkaim_e.html
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17886

So it seems an older view of the swastika is the rotation of the dipper around Polaris.

Also the site has elements of the Indian Kiva about it

Here's a Russian site with image; http://www.svet999.ru/Air_future/Arkaim.htm

http://www.svet999.ru/content/arkaim/jadro.jpg

there is also a Maltese cross image shown too:

http://www.svet999.ru/content/Civilisation/arkaim2_sm.jpg

It has elements of other cultures like the Ar-Ka is sky spirit - reference to Egyptian KA-BA etc. Ancient Atlantis with circular moats as well.

Worth adding to the mix.

cheers

Raphael

12-07-2008, 01:56 PM

Identical to a KIVA I would say...the basic shape or outline and comparable also to...(for those just checking in...)

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/boe/img/pl25.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/vatican2.jpg
Universe of the Lamas (on the left) and the holier than thou spiritual copycats found in a place called St. Peter's Square...

there is also a Maltese cross image shown too:

http://www.svet999.ru/content/Civilisation/arkaim2_sm.jpg

Another great find wiz...I have only one complaint...your gift was huge, even though the image is puny. :laugh:

I found a larger image than the one you offered...and then the true gift is revealed.:yes:
And of course a clue to the location of our 3 Gates and maybe identifying a fourth?

At this time I want to remind you of my FF badge number, 1258, which has helped me identify my numerical archetypal quest these past four years.

This link shows a direct link between the shaded areas forming a Maltese cross, the numbers 1258, and Ar-kaim's celestial orientation.
http://www.svet999.ru/content/Civilisation/arkaim2.jpg
go here for larger image of the malteaser cross.
Can you see the numbers 1258 or 1582 was the year the Gregorian Calender is introduced eliminating 10 days...

It has elements of other cultures like the Ar-Ka is sky spirit - reference to Egyptian KA-BA etc. Ancient Atlantis with circular moats as well.

Worth adding to the mix.

cheers

Definitely,
I have also come across an ancient Sanskrit reference, the word Karna...links the sacred cow, which is also the origin of the words Aleph/Alpha, to the swastika, and also to the EAR...

Good verk comrade...cheers
;)

namaste

Raphael

frater luciferi

12-07-2008, 05:57 PM

im very skeptical of any usage of the term "aryan" that whole meme was a big part of NS idealogy and as such help to dirty or literally invert the positive vibrations of the swastika in general. especially when its usage is ALSO equated with asgard and northern european paganism...i think that i might smell some theosophy within the ranks of whomever adopted the ideam of a russian "port" of sorts for "aryan" culture. aryan cannot be used accurately as a designator of any eurocentic race meme. not that there should be any race memes involved in the conversations involved with the origins of the swastika.

not saying that there is'nt any truth in the said thread..but i am a little perturbed as always as i see the aryan meme popping back up again. it was a meme developed first by german occultics==order of thule, theosphy etc. etc. of which some of the NS were involved. it is very dangerous intellectual ground to walk.

perhaps we can replace the term with something else in further discussion of the above find. otherwise i am most excited to see further progress and illumination on the matter of this wonderful symbol.

Raphael

12-07-2008, 06:30 PM

the aryan meme popping back up again...

perhaps we can replace the term with something else in further discussion of the above find. otherwise i am most excited to see further progress and illumination on the matter of this wonderful symbol.

hey I am of Aryan descent and that is the first time I have used that term.
my journey is archetypal...

I can read between the lines of racist ideology frater.
Otherwise I would never have been able to make the unifying connections to this divine symbol.

I would love to rescue this symbol from Hitler and Himmler and the holier than thou Aryan race and return it to its proper place of meditation within the collective consciousness.

Asymmetric DNA suggests the asymmetric swastika belongs IN everybody.
:yes:

Clockwise and Counterclockwise are the only two movements available to the electron in the quantum realm.
CW and CCW define the movement of the two opposing swastikas.
The asymmetric swastika is the KEY to Universal Movement.
That is what it was once called in the valley of Mexico.
How is that for a new name?

The KEY to Universal Movement ;)

namaste

Raphael

MythMath

12-07-2008, 08:14 PM

The floorplan of one of my favorite structures
reminds me of your aerial shot of St Peter's:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Dehio_1_Pantheon_Floor_plan.jpg/180px-Dehio_1_Pantheon_Floor_plan.jpg

Pantheon, Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon,_Rome)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ee/Pantheon_Dome.JPG/180px-Pantheon_Dome.JPG

Pope Urban VIII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Urban_VIII) (1623 to 1644) ordered the bronze ceiling of the
Pantheon's portico melted down. Most of the bronze was used
to make bombards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombard_%28weapon%29) for the fortification of Castel Sant'Angelo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Sant%27Angelo),
with the remaining amount used by the Apostolic Camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Camera)
for various other works. It is also said that the bronze was
used by Bernini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernini) in creating his famous baldachin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Basilica_baldachin) above
the high altar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altar) of St. Peter's Basilica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Basilica)...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Het_Baldakijn_van_Bernini_-_The_Baldachinno.jpg/300px-Het_Baldakijn_van_Bernini_-_The_Baldachinno.jpg

frater luciferi

12-12-2008, 12:18 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/fraterluciferi/l_2b7a206d9b89a89f5eb220fb90a3043a.jpg

frater luciferi

12-12-2008, 12:19 AM

the above image is from a magickal encylopedia that i own. would love to see how the i-ching relates to the trileske.

MythMath

12-12-2008, 12:34 AM

frater luciferi

12-12-2008, 12:39 AM

Lots of good stuff in that book: The Magicians Companion by Bill Whitcomb (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Magicians-Companion/Bill-Whitcomb/e/9780875428680/)

I Ching subsets of Tai Hsuan Ching (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=2133)

http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/th_TrioGramscenter.jpg

http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/th_Ichingsubsetyinyang.jpg

yes, yes very good book..i used to have an occult group that used to meet at a local sherrys and we used to drink coffee all night and were working on a project to successfully cross-reference all the varying esoteric systems..you'd be amazed how syncronise the whole mess is...i lost touch with the "keeper of the book" but we mananged to create a very effective system.

wiz-oz

12-30-2008, 07:31 AM

I was playing around with Barbury Castle Crop circle geometry and drew to pentagons into the formation and applied the golden ratio in Brown lines to it and noticed that the centre becomes a parallelgram (noted in Black).

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/BarburyParallelagram.jpg

It shape reminded me of the Bush barrow lozenge, since it encodes both Phi & Pi as does the crop circle.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/BushBarrowLozengejpg.jpg

So I merged the two images and overlayed it with relevant concentric circles.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/BarburyBushBarrow_overlay.jpg

Then removed the images, leaving only the circles and what did I find?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/BBLOz-Cross-swastika.jpg

The Iron cross and swastika which are geometric expressions I didn't expect to find using the concentric circles based on the edges of the lozenge.

Best wishes to all for 2:D:D9

Raphael

01-03-2009, 10:46 AM

Then removed the images, leaving only the circles and what did I find?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/BBLOz-Cross-swastika.jpg

The Iron cross and swastika which are geometric expressions I didn't expect to find using the concentric circles based on the edges of the lozenge.

Best wishes to all for 2:D:D9

And then you take all of those wonderful conceptualizations and place them into the ARK for safekeeping. The ARK would be that FLYWHEEL, a flying ARK?
Sounds like a merKAbaaaa to me...ready for a woolly ride?

This is the only fooking place on the www that really likes to play along...we are in a position to remember something great here...
Keep playing...now we know we it is we need to focus on...
2009 will be fill with best wishes fulfilled...

We are on the threshold of the same dreams that many esoteric philosophers, the thinkers and tinkers of time, we are there...do you realize that?

Time to focus and play simply...this stuff a child intuitively understands...the infant arrives with the archetypes intact...our SyStem then suffocates and helps veil these archetypes, it seems with an intent...to confuse and obfuscate...

I need to show you something I stumbled upon one day, recently, even before I was directed to the CODE144 forum, and lead to the profound esoteric connections between the Coral Castle FLYWHEEL = LSD =DMT =Solomon's Knot/KEY = Hippocrates LUNA = 4leaf clover = Swastika = Spherical Standing Wave Theory ... does it get any better...more connective?
NO ... I think and feel not... an SS Wave Theory of Everything?

The awakened child in me one day noted something quite profound, while I was exploring the archetypal mind with light and shape...just being a kid.

AND this I want you to understand is most important in how I go about looking for the clues...EVERYTHING is a clue NOW.
If you respect the fact all is connected, and assume this to be true, then to unravel the labryinth I find myself in, I respect everything as a potential clue...
i.e. I will pick up a book I have owned for years...never read till now...open it to a page and find the answer I was looking for only yesterday...or maybe even minutes before...
Here is one of my favorite 'coincidences', I even found a photo recently from 1992, a photo taken in Germany, on a train platform, I asked myself why I took that photo, it is not apparent why...then I noticed on the side of the train car, off to the right, a series of numbers ...

211 065-8

And these numbers in blue...match perfectly the Tarot Card below.
CARD X contains so many secrets...it is an image worth thousands of words...
As an ancient traveler spreading Oral Traditions, a card such as this carried on the person is like a KEY to awakening the archetypal memes or memories...

Thus this Card from the TAROT I claim has embedded in its design, those numbers the formula for Phi.
And it also depicts the Venus Transit Cycle...a most highly regarded cycle tracked by the ancient Maya...this information can be found in the Maya book or codice now called the Dresden Codex...because of where it is kept.

The Dresden Codex (Codex Dresdensis) is held in the Sächsische Landesbibliothek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A4chsische_Landesbibliothek) (SLUB), the state library in Dresden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden), Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany). It is the most elaborate of the codices, and also a highly important work of art. Many sections are ritualistic (including so-called 'almanacs'), others are of an astrological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological) nature (eclipses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse), the Venus cycles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transits_of_Venus)). The codex is written on a long sheet of paper which is 'screen-folded' to make a book of 39 leaves, written on both sides. It was probably written just before the Spanish conquest. Somehow it made its way to Europe and was bought by the royal library of the court of Saxony in Dresden in 1739. The only exact replica, including the huun, made by a German artist is displayed at the Museo Nacional de Arqueología in Guatemala (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala) City, since October, 2007.

And and and the Maya used the Venus cycle to determine the most auspicious times to go to var....err I mean war. ;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpg

Apparently I have left myself ;) a trail to follow back to the source....how cool is that?
What if?

This is what I must now conclude...it is something we all do...thus it provides a motive...to keep people from connecting with their own intuitive source...thus the need for the Power and the Glory Inc...to turn the people into sheeple and deny entry into the temple of Apollo...themselves.

Those are the 4 numbers that first teased me like Peter Pan's shadow...now there are in fact my guide... ;)
1258 are ON my badge that was issued when I left the fire department, ironcally this badge is now connected to my post-firefighter role...

The Pyramid, the Beer Glass, Child, the Elder and the Experiment
images accompanying the text below will be posted later...

So let me present to you what the curious child in me one day brought before the wisdom of mi, the elder... for an explanation...

The child/elder in me, this past summer purchased for 25 cents a 'gimmicky' tapered plastic beer glass that emitted three LED lights from the base.

three modes are available on the switch...and and and maybe maybe maybe these modes are yet another clue to be explored later when comparing a pulse (particle) to a wave? :yes:

MODE I the three LEDS in the base of the glass flash in a sequence ... thus the light waves overlap or intersect.
MODE II the three LEDs all flash together...or a PULSE
MODE III the three LEDs emit a steady light.

MODE IV the three LEDs are turned off and the battery is conserved.

The child/elder in me then noticed a pyramid prism on the window sill, beside where I had placed the tapered beer glass. A prism quite similar to the Great Pyramid at Giza...square base with 4 faces.
The child/elder in me then decided to play around with the prism, the tapered glass and the light. What would happen I thought if I placed the prism/pyramid into the glass upside down and turned on the LEDs?

Lo and behold...the child/elder in me managed to get the square peg (base of the pyramid) caught/wedged in the round hole (the tapered glass).

And it soon became clear that the child and the elder were now working together...on helping each other remember the magic.
Anybody writing this down? ;)

And what is the magic that together we understood at the end of the day, the child and the elder?
When a square object is wedged in a circle...a shadow is cast.

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/-/6/quatrefoil01-at.jpg
Gothic Quatrefoil = LSD = Solomon's Knot

The result or combination of placing the square inside the circle is the familiar FLYWHEEL = LSD = Solomon's Knot = Hippocrates LUNA

From above the glass looking downward toward the source...looking INTO the tapered glass (cone), we can clearly see that the square tile or base of the PYRAMID casts a DISTINCT shadow, onto the SIDES of the glass...the shape we see in the above quatrefoil.

Thus the ensuing shape or SHADOW cast, are the 4 CRESCENTS that appear outside the CIRCLE. :yes:
And as I learned today this particular shape is connected in a most auspicious way to the most important right angle triangle...

And please note that this SHADOW appears in all MODES...even when the LED lights are turned off...remember all that is needed to cast a shadow is 'contrast' and a source light...

Now the Child / Elder however did continue playing.
What happens when you rotate a square inside a circle, along one axis, 90 degrees...?
>>for one thing watch how the shadows cast on the surface of the glass change.
>>the other realization is...WOW now I can see the ALL of the LIGHT :cool: :cool:

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/-/6/quatrefoil01-at.jpg

Apparently for this archetypal illusion to be seen...all that is needed is 'contrast'.

Which would bring us back to a black and white simplicity.

namaste

Raphael

wiz-oz

01-04-2009, 02:29 AM

Raph, I have said exactly the same thing about colour & light in post:268 & 270
http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=39437&postcount=269

You call it contrast, I call it a border Phenonmenon between black and white. Possibly becuase one reflects or light while the other obsorbs. So on the borders right hand & left hand spin give off different polarity colours of Red-Violet & Yellow-Blue.

Project Woodpecker

Now, inorder for you to understand how the magnetic field lines of our earth work, you must understand the basic principal of how a simple "magnet" works. And, the way that most of us learned it back in our earlier school years, was WRONG WRONG WRONG! There is a "old concept" and, a "new concept" of the laws of magnetism. In the "new concept", you will note that there is a "NEGATIVELY charged NORTH MAGNETIC POLE, and, a POSITIVELY charged SOUTH MAGNETIC POLE. (Draw it out on a piece of paper). The atom leaves the South Magnetic Pole spinning to the right (or clockwise). It then dips to the surface of the earth (at its Equator), and changes its spin (or phase relationship) by 180 degrees. When it leaves the Magnetic Equator of the Earth, it travels with a left (or counterclockwise) spin to re-enter the earth at the North Magnetic Pole. The negatively charged electrons and positively charged protons both follow helical paths around a field line, but they rotate at a certain gyromagnetic or 'CYCLOTRON FREQUENCY' in opposite directions.

http://www.rense.com/general61/wwodp.htm (http://www.rense.com/general61/wwodp.htm)

I just wish those guys 'wood' leave their 'peckers' out of messing with the environment.

Raph, when I rendered the above Lozenge- circles I forgot about the connection to your 'church window' - I could have overlayed it.
cheers