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Anibis

07-28-2006, 10:01 AM

m1thr0s

07-28-2006, 12:12 PM

P.S. M1thr0s, feel free to move this if you feel it belongs somewhere else.I think I will move it into Abrahadabra -> Modern Ibisis. The full numeration of Abrahadabra = 1904? That I had not noticed before... I will need a little time to go over your numbers but the look and feel of this stuff is very good...let me dink around with my calculator a bit and I'll get back to you on this stuff...

m1thr0s

Anibis

07-28-2006, 01:21 PM

Yes, the move makes sense. I saw that shortly after I posted it. Tell me if you find otherwise on the 1904 bit. I wrote that several years ago, but I am usually quite good with double, triple and quadruplifying my gematria tests.
-Ibisis

m1thr0s

07-28-2006, 01:57 PM

I am having difficulty arriving at 1904 Ibisis. Perhaps you can show your method at some point soon. I have tried it via Greek and Hebrew Numerations (following AIQ BKR) and seem to arrive at 2311 for the full spread on the Hebrew side.

For the benefit of those unaware of AIQ BKR, this is a popular system of hebrew numerology which the following chart will (hopefully) clarify. I will be doing a little article on this at another time soon which should help to define exactly where English fits into everything.

Hebrew & Greek Letter Key
http://www.abrahadabra.com/images/hebrew.greek.letters.gif

Based on this system, I get the following numerations on the complete Abrahadabra:
A = 1
AB = 3
ABR = 203
ABRA = 204
ABRAH = 209
ABRAHA = 210
ABRAHAD = 214
ABRAHADA = 215
ABRAHADAB = 217
ABRAHADABR = 417
ABRAHADABRA = 418
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TOTAL = 2311
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I have probably missed something in what you were doing but don't seem able to find it yet. I am hoping you will get a chance to clarify how you get to 1904...

This is only one aspect of your presentation however. I will need more time to go over the rest. Great article btw...

m1thr0s

Anibis

07-28-2006, 02:43 PM

A=1
AB=3
ABR=203
ABRA=204
ABRAH=209
ABRAHA=210
ABRAHAD=214
ABDRAHADA=215
ABRAHADAB=217
ABRAHADABR=417
ABRAHADABRA=418

Well shit. I really don't know how I managed to bugger that one up. Luckily, it is (at least to me) one of the least interesting points in the article, and was meant to be incidental to the primary work. Still, it's always a pain when you build up an error like that. Thanks for noticing. I'll let you know if I ever find the 'hidden gnosis' that let me cook up that one. Now we know where 'blinds' come from people... heh heh heh...
-Ibisis

m1thr0s

07-28-2006, 03:04 PM

I think that's why it's important to show your proofs as a rule. We are often juggling a dozen or more different calculations in these things and it can all get jumbled up sometimes. I am certain you saw something in this...I just can't find the angle at the moment...I hope it turns up...

I am still working on your mirror theory. For those that may not be following how the 13-31 thing works, it goes like this:

13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28+29 +30+31 = 418 (a 19 number series...)

The number 1331 also corresponds to the phrase *B(e)rashith-Abrahadabra* where B(e)rashith (913) is presumably the first word in Genesis (loosely translated as "In the Beginning") and Abrahadabra (418) is generally taken to be a word denoting *Completion* of the Great Work, so that 1331 is a numerical Alpha-Omega glyph in its own right. Other than itself and 1, 1331 is only divisible by the numbers 11 and 121 and 121 itself is 11², so that one of the outstanding characteristics of 1331 is that it is 11³ (11 x 11 x 11)...

This is just one of many strategies employed in gematria to ascertain embedded symmetries within words/numbers...

m1thr0s

Anibis

07-28-2006, 03:23 PM

Yeah, me too, but for now it is lost. Let me know if you find anything else. I am sure the basic dynamics of the key are sound. They form loops which cycle through a finite series of numbers: 418, 39, 93, 13, 31, 132, 44, 66, 22, 11. 418 ultimately extends to 2508, by the fact that that you can extract 6 Abrahadabras from the expanded triangle altogether. 2508 is 132x19 (the number of manifestation! woah... heh heh (I liked you essay on Abrahadabra by the way)). So it would seem if you follow the path of the number harmonies that 132 is the 'heart' of abrahadabra. That in itself is I think a more elegant way of deriving 22 from 418. If I am being obtuse, by the way, let me know, and I'll try to unpack this stuff for you guys...Basically, it's a cadeucus (and here I said it was a vajra! what the hell, will I get my wands straight already!). The path that runs from 93 to 31 is a red serpent. The path that runs from 39 to 13 is a blue one. The 66,44,22,11 series is the central (golden) shaft, 132 is the solar disk, and 418 is it's wings. Okay, duty calls.
-ibisis

Anibis

07-29-2006, 02:07 PM

Lovely point about the 1331 being (11x11x11). I had not percieved that one yet. Another note about the 19 member series from 13-31 is that the central number of that series is 22. On a bit more of a lopsided note, it contains a 93 as well since 13+14+15+16+17+18=93.

To elaborate on my previous post, which was a bit dense, I wanted point out the fascinating fact that if you utter the full version of Abrahadabra, by recognizing that the grid, of 66 points ultimately can accomadate 6 full Abrahadabras, you can, in a single use of the word generate a hexagram, with 6 points. Furthermore each of those points could be opened up into a hexagram and so on. It is fractally infinite. As I mentioned above, however, at each point where abrahadabra multiplies into 6, It retains a resonance with the number 132 (since 6(418)=19(132)). As a result no matter how far you push the field, it always is undergirded by this number, which is 66x2. This is an especially fascinating feature because it specifically links 418 to the 66 unit grid. This is another example, I think of how 'abrahadabra' is more than just incidentally related to this grid. In another discussion the point is raised that we should not be slavishly devoted to Abrahadabra in these matters, and this is true. It is also true I think, that 418 itself is special, and has a special relationship to the geometries under discussion. Thus this number and the 66 fold figure (which is simply 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11) are in some way one thing. Try vibrating a word of another enumeration (like 421) on this grid, and I guarantee you, it will not yoke the whole thing properly (it may just make use of the surface features).

By the way 132 gives us QBL, 'to recieve' the root of Qabalah. It is itself a hexagram, containing two fully expanded abrahadabra grids, one facing up, the other down.

-Ibisis

m1thr0s

07-29-2006, 02:54 PM

It is also true I think, that 418 itself is special, and has a special relationship to the geometries under discussion.It may be that 418 is actually a dynamic numerological property of the geometry itself and has more to do with application of leylines than words per se. I am naturally hesitant to push this idea since the TwinStar obviously meets all of those requirements via its 19 x 22 configuration in paths and I am disinclined to be overly *pushy* about my own preferred modus operandus. On the other hand, I did not arrive at these methods on a whim but spent many years in fact looking for the best possible way to fuse The Lo Shu with Abrahadabra...In all that time the 418 numeration was not especially a priority with me, so it is startling to me (still) that it seems to have found its own voice in the scheme of things...

The idea that 418 may be a vital clue regarding synergistic *thinking* in some way has been born out again with the development of the binary/ternary logick in general. Because there is no escaping the fact that what is going on here amounts to two very important energy codification systems essentially sharing the same space/time coordinates...at least in part. It may be that this whole principle of synchronism in itself it the missing link we have been tracking all these years...the thing that actually makes *quantum* leaps possible etc... Because there is an undeniable *warp* effect that comes to bear very discernably in asserting these harmonic scales in unison...not unlike the phenomena of *overtones* in music etc...

m1thr0s

Anibis

07-29-2006, 07:35 PM

The idea that 418 may be a vital clue regarding synergistic *thinking* in some way has been born out again with the development of the binary/ternary logick in general. Because there is no escaping the fact that what is going on here amounts to two very important energy codification systems essentially sharing the same space/time coordinates...at least in part. It may be that this whole principle of synchronism in itself it the missing link we have been tracking all these years...the thing that actually makes *quantum* leaps possible etc... Because there is an undeniable *warp* effect that comes to bear very discernably in asserting these harmonic scales in unison...not unlike the phenomena of *overtones* in music etc...

Could you unpack this last paragraph? I am just curious as to what you mean by synergistic, synchronism, and harmonic scales. Also, what do you mean by the 'two systems'? The Chinese and the Hermetic?, or are you referring to the mathematical/vibratory levels of the formula? It would definitely seem that 418 is structurally linked to the geometries of the 'Abrahadabra grid', and so that would explain why even though other words can fit the 4-3-4 pattern of beats, and can be applied to the grid, they do not seem to pick it up by the bootstraps the way that Abrahadabra does. The word both fits the slot mophologically, as well as 'resonentially' (meaning that it's enumeration locks into the geometry). Perhaps this is what you mean by two systems coming together. It's rather amazing how tight the fit is, actually, to the point where it feels organic. It's almost like the 'mind/body' problem on the level of ideas.

A word on the 'warp effect'. Since we are converging rather decisively on the same material, I think it might be taken for granted that we mean the same things by the words we use. SO... here's what I take the formula to be doing:

Premise 1: Assume that living beings in general are essentialy a sort of burst of energy that succeeds in taking on a form rather than disipating into nothiness (ie entropy) by allocating the flows of its life force/chi/id/desiring energy/etc... into certain evolving structures and organs (ie negentropy).This process occurs as the response to problems in the environment, and results in organizations which essentially process those problem and produce an output.
Premise 2: Human societies have ideological/energetic structures (magickal systems) as their collective organism.
Conclusion:Human societies evolve magickal systems to allocate their Chi in response to their environments, so they can essentially organize themselves intelligently around a given problem.
Correlate: the 'Warp' is basically the restructuring of 'desiring production', or of Chi, and Abrahadabra, is essentially re-ordering us biologically, sociologically, and probably, if we care to go where the ride is REALLY weird, it is warping a multidimensional structure, such that it brings about 'acausal' phenomena, ie synchronicities.

I'd venture the guess that the degree that this will work is the degree of libido invested in the numbers, letters and geometries, and that the end result is generall sense of dwelling in a sort of 'gravity well' which affects which sorts of events emerge into manifestation and which do not.

Okay, I can't imagine that we are terribly far off in this, but I needed to articulate it, just to get a sense of how I would describe the experience. What do you think?

-Ibisis-

m1thr0s

07-29-2006, 08:31 PM

Could you unpack this last paragraph? I am just curious as to what you mean by synergistic, synchronism, and harmonic scales. Also, what do you mean by the 'two systems'? The Chinese and the Hermetic?, or are you referring to the mathematical/vibratory levels of the formula?I will try, but I have to say that in using the terms synergy or synchronism I am sort of fishing for the right terms and it's possible that neither of these suffice it. I can't really distinguish between the Chinese and the Hermetic because it's all about the same thing once enough facts are gathered. Part of what I am alluding to here will be at least partially cleared up in a thread I am currently working on...the one that's still locked right now called Mutaional Alchemy in a Nutshell.

I have at length arrive at the conclusion that the principle of Wu Chi and the principle of Tai Hsuan must necessarily occupy the same exact positions in Abrahadabra and relative to the Tree of Life. They are both planted square at the seat of Ain Soph (or Ain Soph Aur) to put it straight. There is simply no avoiding it. No matter how many ways I approach it, it still comes back the same. Wu Chi and Tai Hsuan are wed together in some way but are not the same thing-not-thing etc. Mathematically, we can know that the I Ching is a numerical subset of the Tai Hsuan Ching...that the 64 binary hexagrams find their exact mathematical correlation in the 729 hexagrams of the ternary system. But they are not the same thing...they are dispersed differently and serve different kinds of functions somehow.

More and more I have found myself swimming in this pool of mystery surrounding how these two great systems interact. I have tentatively arrived at certain conclusions that do not always make 100% sense but are persistent nevertheless...that the binary system corresponds to the Tree of Life a little more than it does to the Abrahadabra grid while the ternary system fits Abrahadabra like a glove but doesn't quite align on the Tree exactly. They seem to flow in and out of each other...they share many coordinates but seem to do so in slightly different ways. It is all very reminescant of the Hermetic notions of Mind & Matter and what really distinguishes the Tai Hsuan Ching afterall is the addition of the *Jen" element which is...what...Intelligence and Spirit...or so the sages have defined it.

So this is big Ibisis...really big...and even I don't have but the barest handle on it to be honest. It is difficult to escape the conclusion that we are looking at two distinct Bodies of Light when we confront the Tree of Life in lieu of Abrahadabra. On the one side we have the Tree but on the other we have...what...a Star? An Engine of tremendous magnitude whose codification system is over 11 times the breadth of the DNA code itself! The fact that the TwinStar=19 while the Tree of Life =22 is just another in a very long list of evidences suggesting that there is something very unexpected going on here and very hard to define exactly. It is very like the notion of Morphogenetic Fields somehow...Abrahadabra is somehow tied into something bigger than the Tree of Life itself yet the Tree does not work for it...is not subservient to it and is not a subset of it either. These two great systems are working together somehow in some sort of cooperative symbiotic partnership/relationship of some kind...

And if that doesn't boggle the mind...I don't know what the hell does...but it has never been really addressed in all the doctrines I have studied...all the sacred texts I have poured over through the years etc. Something very like this has been alluded to time and time again (Merkabah, etc), but nothing and no one has ever really pinpointed its mechanism. Suddenly, I think we may have found it...but it's big. We may need some serious supercomputers to even begin to calculate everything that might be going on with this...

I don't know if that is any clearer or not. I hope that as I begin to lay out all the facts as I know them , the patterns will sort of define themselves. But time and again we seem to run into this whole idea of completely different mechanisms at play in this whole Abrahadabra business that are working in tangent, but are not the same thing exactly.

m1thr0s

Kain

07-30-2006, 07:49 AM

You know m1thr0s, based on what I have seen so far, I still find this connection between the Binary and Ternary (more appropriately corresponding to the Tree of Life and TwinStar respectively) one of the most important and powerful aspects portrayed through the Abrahadabra system (keeping in mind that there is so much more to be portrayed, of course). Truly groundbreaking and mindblogging, and just as powerful in practical application. As I have previously said, since I have myself been working with the connection between the Ternary and Binary Universe attributions even before learning about Abrahadabra, I have myself arrived to similar conclusions concerning the connection between Wu Chi, Ain Soph, the Ternary and Binary, and the two distinct but synergistic Bodies of Light.

I have a question that I quite possibly know the answer to already, but could you further define what "Tai Hsuan" denotes? I think I know what is your use of it, but I am just not very familiar with the term's connotations yet.

Another thing that I have been pondering at times is this: Why is Wu Chi attributed to Ain Soph rather than Ain? Certainly Ain Soph and Ain are both "Negative stages" to manifestation proper, as Wu Chi is. But Ain is Nothing (the Void) while Ain Soph is Boundless Light. I always thought of them as the two aspects of the Unmanifest, differentiating of course the initial creative urge itself which is rightfully reserved for Ain Soph Aur.

Kain

m1thr0s

07-30-2006, 09:35 PM

I have a question that I quite possibly know the answer to already, but could you further define what "Tai Hsuan" denotes?Are you asking what the term itself means? I have seen several ways of defining the word *Tai*, ranging from *Great* to *Great Dark* to *Supreme* and perhaps a couple of others as well. *Hsuan* (also spelled Xuan) primarily defines as *Mystery*. That may make it as close as we can get in this world to the so-called *x-factor* but in general I have adopted the more accessable translation *Great Mystery*. The symbol depicting the T'ien-Jen-Ti is generally referred to as the "Tridosha* (Three Bodies) which I believe may originate from Ayurvedic sources. I am not sure what it would be called in Chinese though I have searched for this.

It is extremely difficult for me that the best (most lucid) translation of the Tai Hsuan Ching itself by Derek Walters is no longer available and only went to press once to my knowledge. The publishing trade being what it is today, the only copies you will find are used paperback copies, assuming you get lucky. Despite the fact that it counts as among the principle canons of Chinese Philosophy, this work has suffered time and again from a chain of unfortunate circumstances.

At the present time I know of 3 Internet links that may be able to provide you with the best quickie overview of Yang Hsiung and his work:
(1). Tony Smith's informative treatise (http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ichgene6.html)
(2). The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry (http://www.iep.utm.edu/y/yangxion.htm)
(3). An Obscure Canadian Philosophy entry (http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/after.html#one)

I would like to begin compiling a list of such links right here so if you run into anything of merit in your journeys I would very much like to see what you have found.

Another thing that I have been pondering at times is this: Why is Wu Chi attributed to Ain Soph rather than Ain?My knowledge of Ain (Nothing), Ain Soph (Boundless Nothing) and Ain Soph Aur (Boundless Nothing-Light ) is drawn primarily from Crowley's work, corroborated through Golden Dawn materials I have found and assorted Hermetic Alchemical documents I have seen. In all cases they pretty much run these values together as different aspects of the same essential principle or property, which is basically an analysis of "Nothing" and/or that which precedes Crown on the Tree of Life. Since we are dealing with a realm that no longer has any solid ground to stand upon, it is a little awkward discussing their division into triune parts this way.

It strikes me that your observation is correct however...that Wu Chi would be most akin to Ain, while the Tai Hsuan would be more akin to Ain Soph or perhaps Ain Soph Aur itself which is perhaps a little more triangulated even than Ain Soph...though at this point we may be splitting hairs unnecessarily...

This whole symbiosis thing puts me at a loss for words but it may be that this is simply because nobody has really identified it with any kind of precision. I feel as though I am sitting on a map of vast continent no one has yet been able to find...like Atlantis or something. But the language of Morphogenetic Fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_resonance) may be the best scientific explanation yet offered, which theory attempts to explain exactly how genetic information is stored without overloading the code itself. In essence, this data predicts the eventual discovery of a second code...a much bigger one that stores not only energy/matter data but thought as well...

Sorry for the lag on this response...many things going on at once etc... And I also needed to dig out those links and go over whatever definitions I had on tap...

m1thr0s

Kain

07-31-2006, 08:37 AM

Are you asking what the term itself means? I have seen several ways of defining the word *Tai*, ranging from *Great* to *Great Dark* to *Supreme* and perhaps a couple of others as well. *Hsuan* (also spelled Xuan) primarily defines as *Mystery*. That may make it as close as we can get in this world to the so-called *x-factor* but in general I have adopted the more accessable translation *Great Mystery*. The symbol depicting the T'ien-Jen-Ti is generally referred to as the "Tridosha* (Three Bodies) which I believe may originate from Ayurvedic sources. I am not sure what it would be called in Chinese though I have searched for this. Thank you very much for clarifying m1thr0s, and yes, I was referring to the term itself, so as to better understand your attribution in the system. I was aware of it being referred to as "Great Mystery", however I did not know that Tai can be also translated as "Great Dark", which is very interesting indeed...
It is extremely difficult for me that the best (most lucid) translation of the Tai Hsuan Ching itself by Derek Walters is no longer available and only went to press once to my knowledge. The publishing trade being what it is today, the only copies you will find are used paperback copies, assuming you get lucky. Despite the fact that it counts as among the principle canons of Chinese Philosophy, this work has suffered time and again from a chain of unfortunate circumstances. Yes, I know...I already own The Elemental Changes (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0791416283/002-5833287-6100032?v=glance&n=283155) (translated by Michael Nylan) thanks to your direction. Unfortunately not the best of resources, but good to have keeping in mind current circumstances.
At the present time I know of 3 Internet links that may be able to provide you with the best quickie overview of Yang Hsiung and his work:
(1). Tony Smith's informative treatise (http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ichgene6.html)
(2). The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry (http://www.iep.utm.edu/y/yangxion.htm)
(3). An Obscure Canadian Philosophy entry (http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/after.html#one)

I would like to begin compiling a list of such links right here so if you run into anything of merit in your journeys I would very much like to see what you have found.I will certainly make sure to post it here if I find anything worth of mentioning. Thank you for these links m1thr0s, I was already aware of the first one but the other two were new to me.
My knowledge of Ain (Nothing), Ain Soph (Boundless Nothing) and Ain Soph Aur (Boundless Nothing-Light ) is drawn primarily from Crowley's work, corroborated through Golden Dawn materials I have found and assorted Hermetic Alchemical documents I have seen. In all cases they pretty much run these values together as different aspects of the same essential principle or property, which is basically an analysis of "Nothing" and/or that which precedes Crown on the Tree of Life. Since we are dealing with a realm that no longer has any solid ground to stand upon, it is a little awkward discussing their division into triune parts this way. Indeed.
It strikes me that your observation is correct however...that Wu Chi would be most akin to Ain, while the Tai Hsuan would be more akin to Ain Soph or perhaps Ain Soph Aur itself which is perhaps a little more triangulated even than Ain Soph...though at this point we may be splitting hairs unnecessarily...Well, perhaps we are although I tend to differentiate the aspects of the Negative stage/Nothing in practical application, so I felt like commenting on this. It is all to do with achieving the best possible momentum on the model, and since these aspects are hardwired to the very apex (and in fact the transitional "gateway" linking the manifest and consciously realized with the Unmanifest Void) they are most important for it's upward unfoldment, and should be equally well possitioned and defined.
This whole symbiosis thing puts me at a loss for words but it may be that this is simply because nobody has really identified it with any kind of precision. I feel as though I am sitting on a map of vast continent no one has yet been able to find...like Atlantis or something. But the language of Morphogenetic Fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_resonance) may be the best scientific explanation yet offered, which theory attempts to explain exactly how genetic information is stored without overloading the code itself. In essence, this data predicts the eventual discovery of a second code...a much bigger one that stores not only energy/matter data but thought as well...Very good observation, Morphogenetic Fields may indeed have a lot to do with this issue. Well spotted!
Sorry for the lag on this response...many things going on at once etc... And I also needed to dig out those links and go over whatever definitions I had on tap...

m1thr0sI thought as much, and keeping in mind that there is so much work to be done around here, it is only expected...thanks m1thr0s...

Kain

m1thr0s

07-31-2006, 01:29 PM

Kain

07-31-2006, 04:04 PM

There is a definite correllation to the Tai Hsuan and the Sat-Tan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat/Tan_Satanism) principle via Sanskrit, more recently brought to light by the Satanic Reds group etc... The Tai Hsuan itself would be more indicative of the "extension" aspect than Wu Chi which is more on the recessive end of the spectrum...Exactly my point of view as well concerning the "extension" aspect of Wu Chi. Indeed Tai Hsuan and Sat-Tan could be said to be very much alike...
The Tridosha itself is sometimes identified as the Tai Chi in action, or extension mode, although I sort of have split feelings about that personally...

m1thr0sI have come across this viewpoint too...My personal view on the matter is similarly mixed, although I guess it belongs in a different thread.

Kain

Kuroyagi

12-06-2007, 11:03 AM

Hi there. A few years ago I worked out some number harmonies which I discovered within the formula of ABRAHADABRA. In particular, I was looking to find a way to go from 418 to 93, in pure number, (ie without dipping into an occult construct such as the Tarot, or Hebrew, etc...). I found a little set of formulae which I have found very usefull, which if understood are like a little magical vajra. It's pretty simple when you get it, but of course like any long, dark mysterioso wizard, I just HAD to make the explanation deliberately obtuse, to throw the rubes off the scent. Here (http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~g57pghd/Abrahadabra1.html) is where it is published. Anyone care to discuss it?
-Ibisis-
P.S. M1thr0s, feel free to move this if you feel it belongs somewhere else.Thank you, Anibis it was actually really very well written and not difficult to understand, at all, even for me who is not the biggest numerological "checker". Im also dissapointed that the 1904 didnt compute but you inspired me into looking further at Achad's writings. I have never read anything by him, yet and the things you wrote about the 13, 39 and the "love" association somehow relate very well to me, also personally.

Anibis

12-06-2007, 08:37 PM

Yeah, I really need to write a phase 2 of this essay. Several new components of the key have revealed themselves. It is most comprehensive.
-A-

MythMath

12-07-2007, 12:32 AM

Looking forward... ;)