What are mystical experiences about?

[Radiant Star]

What are mystical experiences about?

People often talk of having a mystical experience where they feel loved, or at peace and time stands still. They may feel that they understand everything at that moment or sense other ‘realities’ or even see other beings. Others still hear music or see light and may even have an out-of-body experience.

These things can occur after meditation or prayer but they are often unexpected and happen spontaneously with no deliberate invoking of them.

So what are they? Do they arise from an activated part of the brain or are they due to opening up to other real existences?

Are they just chemical reactions or ar they evoked by our interaction with energies that surround us?

[Naomi]

What are mystical experiences about?

People often talk of having a mystical experience where they feel loved, or at peace and time stands still. They may feel that they understand everything at that moment or sense other ‘realities’ or even see other beings. Others still hear music or see light and may even have an out-of-body experience.

These things can occur after meditation or prayer but they are often unexpected and happen spontaneously with no deliberate invoking of them.

So what are they? Do they arise from an activated part of the brain or are they due to opening up to other real existences?

Are they just chemical reactions or ar they evoked by our interaction with energies that surround us?

It's always been deliberate with me, but in my case, such experiences are not about peace or love but more about thrills and weirdness - sure, love and peace are certainly present but awesome raw power is what I've always been after - I am very transparent in this. I have no interest in something unless I can use it to control reality or gain something for myself that enables me to carry out my duty. Power hungry, diabolical, merciless, vengeful, I am all of these things. Also loyal and just, but nobody needs to know that. :dull:

With that sort of determination, drive and unyielding pursuit of power will come results, it is part of the law of this system. Seek, and ye shall find, or perserverance furthers.

As far as I am concerned whether it is a part of the brain or part of a so called 'real existence' is irrelevant. If all is mind, then all is real. The only difficulty comes from effecting and steering causality. The absolute shapes the playground, the shakti hits the switches in the huge intricate puzzle. Our bodies are of the absolute, they are no less mystical than the higher planes. One need only hit the correct gates and switches to access higher levels - infinity is the limit.

There - that plant across the room I can connect too, given the right codes. Your computer, I can access it with my mind if I know the right way to crack the system. I know how to kill or injure someone from thousands of miles away. These are siddhis - tapping into god mind, beyond the base parameters of human limitation. The system of the greater absolute is perfectly ethical and cannot be bent in a way which harms the universe itself. The lesser absolute, or sub creations, (brahmas) can be damaged and destroyed if they are built poorly.

On earth there's a set of parameters governing all sorts of different things, some of which cannot be overcome in one lifetime. What you do in one life matters much in the next to determine how far you can reach. Earth is a trap, quite literally. It's a stage for one of the oldest games, what we call original game, like wei chi.

Reality as we see it down here is partitioned by a series of realms, governed by intelligences, much like the planet earth reflects this as a series of continents, countries, cities and corporations. Using the laws of cause and effect, one can approach these intelligences and depending on the choices one makes, access those realms. This tends to set off a series of tests which may include experiences such as you mentioned, or grant siddhis.

One needn't worship or be subject to anything, on the contrary, all that is - the tao - is contained already within your being. This mirror is precisely what allows us to access external infinity. The choice to unite with one side of an equation instead of another, or multiple others is the way the universe sorts out itself, separating the gold from the dirt.

Here's an excerpt from my journal recently, just rambling:
"The coolest thing about tantric meditation practice, that energy doesn't just remain inside your mind, if one has the will to effect change in the world outside, it leaves and goes to ping its nearest polar opposite. So a powerful dream= someone doing an equally powerful ritual somewhere, and the dreamer = the reciever. The 'gods' or what might be more accurately termed "major intelligences" don't just send dreams, they incarnate and attempt to channel themselves through their lowest body on the lattice network of bodies. Hence, why there is no god but man - gods can't do shit unless they are incarnated in the physical which is why worshipping the spirit is so much B.S. except for the part where one tries to bring that about in that archetype experience in the flesh."

[Kuroyagi]

What are mystical experiences about?

People often talk of having a mystical experience where they feel loved, or at peace and time stands still. They may feel that they understand everything at that moment or sense other ‘realities’ or even see other beings. Others still hear music or see light and may even have an out-of-body experience.

These things can occur after meditation or prayer but they are often unexpected and happen spontaneously with no deliberate invoking of them.

So what are they? Do they arise from an activated part of the brain or are they due to opening up to other real existences?

Are they just chemical reactions or ar they evoked by our interaction with energies that surround us?
Actually things like being loved or at peace or time standing still are things that are wonderful but happen to me daily- Im probably very lucky.

But I think that mystical experiences can only be triggered, never willed- per definitionem not. The key is that one can set the right environement and certain parameters (like the nature of ones studies) so to increase to likelihood of such mystical experiences and faciliate them...chemical reactions are one phenomenon of them only, some very isolated part in my view, which doesnt mean that one cant incite them by chemical triggers, from part to the whole ("argumentum a minore ad maius"); YET some people wont profit from those "drugs" if they arent prepared accordingly- its like some proles who have traveled the whole world yet still remain unchanged VS maybe a very refined man who will be incited to write a great novel by merely traveling to the neighbouring province...

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I'd have to agree with Kuroyagi for the most part. I don't personally place a strict line between Magick and Mysticism other than the means of attainment (I usually call it all Magickal for the sake of argument). I tend to think of the Mystical experience more along the lines of passively opening yourself up to allow for whatever to happen. It's a more spontaneous process for me personally.Do they arise from an activated part of the brain or are they due to opening up to other real existences?

Are they just chemical reactions or ar they evoked by our interaction with energies that surround us?All of the above and more. If you come to any definite conclusions or reductions you might have lost it.

[Radiant Star]

I think that mystical experiences can only be triggered, never willed- per definitionem not. The key is that one can set the right environement and certain parameters (like the nature of ones studies) so to increase to likelihood of such mystical experiences and faciliate them...
That seems to be the experience of many; David Spangler (Google him) had such an experience at the age of 7, though some put it down to religious input as a way of explaining it and try to objectify it, taking it out of context and thereby rendering it meaningless at worst or limiting it to brain chemistry at best. Of course, it may very well be due to our own interpretation of a change in brain activity, but since we act in relation to the world, then I think we have to ask what was the input from that and was it in some way paranormal.

[Talkingfox]

That seems to be the experience of many; David Spangler (Google him) had such an experience at the age of 7, though some put it down to religious input as a way of explaining it and try to objectify it, taking it out of context and thereby rendering it meaningless at worst or limiting it to brain chemistry at best. Of course, it may very well be due to our own interpretation of a change in brain activity, but since we act in relation to the world, then I think we have to ask what was the input from that and was it in some way paranormal.

I personally have a hard time with the whole separation of the "normal" from the "paranormal" I think the phenomenon is neither one nor the other but BOTH.
Experience shapes brain chemistry and brain chemistry shapes perception.