New Mirror: Grid Proofs 001

[m1thr0s]

See: Grid Proofs 001 (http://www.abrahadabra.com/gridproofs001.htm)

This has actually already been discussed in other places but I am posting it here anyway in case anybody has additional questions or would like to voice criticisms etc. Naturally I will defend my reasonings but I am actually very interested in any reasonable critiques. I am of the general opinion that this amounts to an irrefutable set of proofs that the Tree of Life is indeed a mathematical subset of Abrahadabra itself.

...and that's a big deal. If Crowley was aware of this, he never made it clear in his own published writings. Instead we find him asserting an internal variation of Abrahadabra that has it coordinating macrocosm and microcosm from within the Tree of Life matrix. To my way of thinking, this is trivial and affords us no significant insights as to why Abrahadabra should be called a "Glyph of the Great Work in Completion".

Once we understand that the Tree of Life itself emanates from Abrahadabra...that the Word comes first as it were...we have a whole new ball game going on in my view. The fact that Abrahadabra can very easily be defined as the logical extension of the Tetractys of the Decad is just as important as the fact that it houses the Tree of Life within itself.

I have a short article in progress on this which will be completed shortly, but my principle objective with this immediate mirror is to establish in one place a set visual proofs destined to redefine what Abrahadabra is and why it matters.

m1thr0s

[Kain]

A very well built set of images indeed m1thr0s. These are great.

Kain

[m1thr0s]

thanks Kain...simple, understated elegance is best sometimes...as well as I can approximate it at least...

edit: it can, I think, be reasonably argued that the Abrahadabra Tree is not technically the same thing as the Qabbalistic Tree of Life. In one sense it is just splitting hairs since the symmetries are virtually identical, though it has to be remembered that the original Tree as outlined in the Sepher Yetzirah does not include Daath and also does not incorporate the Lurianic Ain Soph Aur coordinate point. We also find that the essential symmetry of the Tree of Life has been modified over time so that the Tree we are more accustomed to seeing today has actually evolved from its earlier Hebrew form. Nevertheless, the Tree that we find in Abrahadabra is the same Tree as we find in the Flower of Life, which we know to be at least 6000 years old. The point of drawing attention to this is really to suggest that the Tree of Life may be a whole lot bigger than Qabbalah to begin with, as arrived at independantly across numerous cultures, having assumed a variety of forms over time.

So I am not particularly concerned that it does or does not meet with classical Qabbalistic parameters. I believe that this is altogether overrated in general and that the Tree of Life itself exists completely independant of any one tradition.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Ah I was looking at that yesterday. I thought it was really cool but I couldn't remember if I had seen the article and images before or not. It's also a given most of the good stuff in Qabbala is probably locked away in the inner circles of modern Hebrew culture.

They're beautiful diagrams, you can reallly feel the logos radiating off of the geometry. I like the stark imagery. I don't see how anybody can refute this - the simplicity of the triangle itself compared to the more elaborate tree of life naturally leads one to conclude the triangle is old as it is simpler and as small as it gets without being reduced to the II or the O.

I can certainly imagine other tree arangements in other parts of the universe, were that so, in that case, this tree of life might as well just be accurately called our "tree of local life" local to the solar system or this galaxy - whatever.

Personally I've always been more impressed with the four pillars of Hermeticism than the tree of life of Qaballa...(I love the tree though, don't get me wrong.)

[m1thr0s]

I don't know...inasmuch as traditional kabbalah seems to insist upon residing tightly within its own private domain, forever whining about how the rest of the world is constantly misinterpreting its constructs and so on, I am personally content to cut it loose for the most part. I am not really all that damn interested in traditional kabbalah per se...I am interested in the Body of Light and its mechanics, period.

People have to make up their own minds about that kind of thing but I think it is fair to say that one does not absolutely need every little scrap of traditional kabbalah to accomplish that nobler and more urgent objectives. I am happy to take whatever people are happy to share but when the matter turns to "proprietary" knowledge, I'm pretty much out of there with no interest in pusuing the matter any further. I do not believe for an instant that vital universal truths are the sole province or accessibility of any special interest groups whatsoever. If it takes a little longer...so mote it be. Then again, it might just as readily speed things up!

Haggling is an inefficient form of commerce best relegated to perishable products only.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

So in your opinion what parts of kabbalah are relevant to the Body of Light, and what can be discarded?

[m1thr0s]

So in your opinion what parts of kabbalah are relevant to the Body of Light, and what can be discarded?whatever directly impacts the physics of existence, impacts us all and these things will eventually have to be understood by us all as well. all the rest is just so much window dressing in my view. It is the things we all share in common that define the common good and these things we will each of us need to come to grips with in our own times and ways. everything else is a discardable "inessential"...

In general, it has been my habit to consider everything I encounter but weigh those things against the matter of dominion...if it has no bearing on my "house"...it is no odds to me. This can vary from person to person. Variation is a good thing so far as I know.

m1thr0s

[m1thr0s]

Maybe an example might help...Kabbalah "purists" will typically insist that a firm grasp of Hebrew is essential to understanding Kabbalah. Now I am going to tell you straight up that a "firm grasp of Hebrew" is bullshit...there is no such thing in fact...not one in 10 million Hebrews can claim it and the rest are liars.

Rather it is important to gain a general grasp of key concepts for most of us and really not much more than this. Everything ever devised in terms of language is subject to debate and a person only has so much time in life to sort out the important things and actually do anything about them. You simply cannot drop everything every time somebody makes a good case for sinking your whole damn life into some specialized area of study...nor is it really necessary at the end of it all...

I believe in going to the well directly and taking whatever needs to be taken to sort out whatever you have in your immediate path that needs to be resolved. So this is why I say that it will vary somewhat from person to person..and that's fine...what of it?

It's these universal bullshit demands and expectations you need to really watch out for...if it doesn't really directly involve you...why bother yourself about it? Now the tricky part is...some things that you may know nothing at all about do in fact involve you directly regardless...so it's not always an easy call. You can't just base things on whatever your whims might happen to be and expect this to pay off handsomely...we all of us need to be testing the waters all the time I think and be watching out for that "factor infinite and unknown"...

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Yes that's very good m1thr0s.

[m1thr0s]

In the work that I am pioneering, I take it for granted that that vast majority of it will not make much sense to most, even though the whole thing makes tremendous sense from start to finish. But how would anybody else really know that? I try to lay out as much as I can as clearly as I can because I do believe it has direct relevance to all people...but this is ultimately for them to decide. About all I can do is lay out the facts as I know them. Little by little things start to click for people and then they want to know more...the more I can produce the better the odds of everybody getting what they need. But the reality is that it's all a mysterious sort of process and I can never be entirely sure what bits will connect better than others.

So I don't try to tell anybody that to really understand this stuff you need to follow a specific path of knowledge exactly. Everything I might try to point to in this way has its potential for misinterpretation anyway. Instead, I try to find fairly dynamic "coins" that people can test on their own initiative with relative little effort...some things you can even just look at that comprise the possibility of rewiring your whole damn universe for instance, hence the mirrors etc...

Or the TwinStar Meditation, or the Nuclear Hexagrams (which I still need to lay out) or random I Ching fields experiments, or the Tetractys itself or maybe any one of dozens of fundamentally stand-alone practices that hold out the potential for igniting a synchronistic sort of epiphany which then becomes its own motivational enginery once this has been successfully realized. If I cannot tip the balance in relatively small ways, there is simply no point dragging anybody into the really heady stuff. They'll just run away screaming, and perhaps they should.

Alchemy has a saying that until the Dragon bites you, knowledge just sort of hangs on you like so many dead leaves. That being the case, the whole idea is to try to find ways that might encourage that Dragon to strike. Once that happens, you've got not only a motivated student, but a proper peer to boot...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

In the work that I am pioneering, I take it for granted that that vast majority of it will not make much sense to most, even though the whole thing makes tremendous sense from start to finish. But how would anybody else really know that? I try to lay out as much as I can as clearly as I can because I do believe it has direct relevance to all people...but this is ultimately for them to decide. About all I can do is lay out the facts as I know them. Little by little things start to click for people and then they want to know more...the more I can produce the better the odds of everybody getting what they need. But the reality is that it's all a mysterious sort of process and I can never be entirely sure what bits will connect better than others.

That's the unpredictability of complex systems, I suppose that's you know - fun. At some point you would think everyone would become a little tired of walking around in their little boxes though, especially with such an easy path out. I think they are, in fact, it's just a matter of realizing how relevant all of this is to each and every human on the face of the planet. Actually, just being aware that it even exists for starters. It is far more accessible than going through a lifetime of the old school techniques which were designed for humankind's status three or five thousand years ago.

I appreciate accumulation of knowledge but there comes a point where you really just need to start a new tower instead of trying to stack completely new paradigms onto an already overburdened and bloated construct.

People do have this strange "all or nothing" attachment to tradition which doesn't serve anyone in the end in any discipline. Not with anything from computer technology or martial arts. Some people try to ignore that guns exist because they can't assimilate that into their closed aesthetic. I imagine that may be what is happening here - the love of history and the mystique of the past becomes a twisted sort of entropic force barring the renewal process. People often equate absorption of new shiny techniques with a discardment of what they hold dear but there's always room for the new if you truly love the past for the right reasons.

So I don't try to tell anybody that to really understand this stuff you need to follow a specific path of knowledge exactly. Everything I might try to point to in this way has its potential for misinterpretation anyway. Instead, I try to find fairly dynamic "coins" that people can test on their own initiative with relative little effort...some things you can even just look at that comprise the possibility of rewiring your whole damn universe for instance, hence the mirrors etc...

Or the TwinStar Meditation, or the Nuclear Hexagrams (which I still need to lay out) or random I Ching fields experiments, or the Tetractys itself or maybe any one of dozens of fundamentally stand-alone practices that hold out the potential for igniting a synchronistic sort of epiphany which then becomes its own motivational enginery once this has been successfully realized. If I cannot tip the balance in relatively small ways, there is simply no point dragging anybody into the really heady stuff. They'll just run away screaming, and perhaps they should.

Alchemy has a saying that until the Dragon bites you, knowledge just sort of hangs on you like so many dead leaves. That being the case, the whole idea is to try to find ways that might encourage that Dragon to strike. Once that happens, you've got not only a motivated student, but a proper peer to boot...Oh so all of that - the Nuclear Hexagrams, the Tree Field mirrors... it's really all just a clever cover for your scheme to provide the dragon with a steady diet of human brains.

I guess it beats getting eaten by zombies though....even Erishikigal approves I bet.

[m1thr0s]

Oh so all of that - the Nuclear Hexagrams, the Tree Field mirrors... it's really all just a clever cover for your scheme to provide the dragon with a steady diet of human brains.
I guess it beats getting eaten by zombies though....even Erishikigal approves I bet.yup...hey, I've always been up front about being a water dragon...never said I wasn't dragocentric...lol...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

You know, it's weird, I sort of always thought you were referring to those chinese lizards (http://72.194.97.91:9090/webwallpaper/chinese_water_dragon_08_1024.jpg) at Petco.

I'm curious though - do you often get people complaining about the non-conformist approach you're presenting?

[m1thr0s]

I'm curious though - do you often get people complaining about the non-conformist approach you're presenting?not directly so much but I do think it bugs other teachers to some extent...as for people in general, it's really hard to tell. I think some probably would prefer a more traditional sort of presentation of things but people rarely actually complain....I think they probably just don't say anything at all...

Others roll along for years just sort of assuming I am crazy or an egomaniac or deluded or whatever other weird crap they come up with...suddenly things start clicking at some point and never stop clicking after that...this train doesn't stop...I forgot to install a breaking mechanism and now it's too late...rofl...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

not directly so much but I do think it bugs other teachers to some extent...as for people in general, it's really hard to tell. I think some probably would prefer a more traditional sort of presentation of things but people rarely actually complain....I think they probably just don't say anything at all...


Perhaps so, at least not to your face, I've had some complaints about my work too, though no one will believe me I actually learned quite a bit of it from other experienced people who are just very secretive. Not everyone is interested in forums or writing books. Sometimes things seem very obvious to specialized occultists because of the experiences we've encountered, and nothing else will change anyone else's view because they are too close minded to even welcome the possibility of similar experiences.


Others roll along for years just sort of assuming I am crazy or an egomaniac or deluded or whatever other weird crap they come up with...suddenly things start clicking at some point and never stop clicking after that...this train doesn't stop...I forgot to install a breaking mechanism and now it's too late...rofl...

What others m1thr0s? I never thought that myself, you're just assertive and scarily lucid that's all - and I thought you just had some sort of weird geometry fetish hobby going on here when you first opened. I always looked forward to the next round of "m1thr0s pwns the n00b" on Occult Forums, it's really such a shame we have so many intelligent people here, now the only thing I have to do for idle fun is lie around and stare at triangles....

Well, at least your morbid sense of humor is still intact.

[m1thr0s]

What others m1thr0s? I never thought that myself, you're just assertive and scarily lucid that's all - and I thought you just had some sort of weird geometry fetish hobby going on here when you first opened.lol...yeah...

well I don't know who or anything...I don't really keep track of that stuff...just impressions mainly...I'm trying to keep my options open though. Given the right situation I'd like to at least try some more conventional class stuff and see how it goes. I'm in a pretty lame town for that right now though. Nowhere to set up shop really...not even a decent occult shop in Oly, WA...freaking losers...

I'm not that keen on teaching really...I'd rather be doing like 200 foot high murals and crap to tell you the truth...

Bomb 'em with visuals...I'm an "info-artist", afterall...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

lol...yeah...

well I don't know who or anything...I don't really keep track of that stuff...just impressions mainly...I'm trying to keep my options open though. Given the right situation I'd like to at least try some more conventional class stuff and see how it goes. I'm in a pretty lame town for that right now though. Nowhere to set up shop really...not even a decent occult shop in Oly, WA...freaking losers...

I'm not that keen on teaching really...I'd rather be doing like 200 foot high murals and crap to tell you the truth...

Bomb 'em with visuals...I'm an "info-artist", afterall...

m1thr0s

It's fairly easy to do murals, you just find someone with an ugly wall and tell them you're an artist and make a proposal, I've had plenty of offers myself anyways. Getting paid for it is another story though, especially in crap towns. Yet then the person viewing the image on the sidewalk doesn't really have any guidance and you might not get the same results.

But teaching needn't be painful if you do it "old school" style. Where, you simply see the student once a week to say "here, study this" and then it's up to them, and you don't have administration breathing down your neck to graduate people either.

Even better, you have a team of disciples to work on the 200 foot high murals, and call it "meditation " and then you can just say to n00bs "Here, sit in front of this wall for a week."

That may seem spartan or monastic but if humanity wants to upgrade, they're going to have to go through it one way or another, it's not like anyone has to bend over backwards for their work.

In teaching such vast and powerful concepts, one cannot really be expected to feel satisfied with Western idealizations of the teacher. In the United States, for instance, there is a consumerist attitude that if one pays money for a class, it is the teacher that owes the student enough time and a good education, whether this is in the university or in yoga schools. In Eastern views however, it is the student that owes everything to an enlightened master who bothers to decide to teach. This is the giri concept you hear me going on about from time to time, but I am not using it in a modern sense, rather, from the standpoint of Budo which I know a great deal more about than I need to. (I live with a ninja so it just sort of seeps in everywhere) The debt of granting enlightenment is so great that it cannot be repayed in one lifetime - and certainly not with material items.

In the end it is only compassion that binds us here.

[m1thr0s]

In the end it is only compassion that binds us here.I suppose so.

Any doctrine that is sufficiently imposing will tend to be resisted with an irrational degree of resentment. There is no preventing this...it has always been this way. When Paracelsus attempted to demonstrate the link between the plague and personal hygene, it was opposed on all sides and he was forced to live the life of a fugitive for his efforts. It is always the same thing really. Revolutionary ideas will be met with an energized ignorance as a rule. Being completely ignored is very often the best deal you can hope to garner.

In general, it typically requires a crisis of one kind or another for any higher order of truth to sufficiently take hold. I have always thought that the principles of Mutational Alchemy will not be fully appreciated until human beings are suddenly faced with an environmental conditions that will not yield to any lesser body of mutational engineering physics than itself. An example of this might be high-orbital earth cohabitation for instance, whereby a whole evolutionary momentum finds itself pragmatically arrested without the advent of some legitimately superior biotechnology, making it possible for people to stabilize a high-orbital environmental conditions. Artificial gravity alone is going to prove completely inadequate to the task for instance.

Or perhaps some other situation we have not had to contend against yet. The depletion of the ozone may ultimately give rise to increased atmospheric plasmic activity for instance, and again we will have a new kind of weather to contend with. You only need to introduce a very small energy differential into the human equation to give you a whole new evolutionary dimension. Those of us who run ahead of the curve are generally aware of this kind of problem for the mostpart...you'd have to be a little braindead to miss it. So what this tends to mean is that there are definite limits as to how much success one can reasonably expect to come from any kind of educational outreach in advance of the aforementioned crisis. There is no sense railing against it really. It has always been this way and always will be I imagine.

For now I am here and doing what I can do etc. It doesn't actually require a crisis for these principles to distinguish themselves but a less threatening conditions allows a lot of things to pass themselves off as valid that are not valid in the clinch. If they are not valid in the clinch, then they are not actually valid at all, but very few will have the wherewithal to detect this on the strength of wit and wisdom alone. So a lot depends on how the wind actually blows what actions I may take or not take in the end.

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

In the work that I am pioneering, I take it for granted that that vast majority of it will not make much sense to most, even though the whole thing makes tremendous sense from start to finish. But how would anybody else really know that? I try to lay out as much as I can as clearly as I can because I do believe it has direct relevance to all people...but this is ultimately for them to decide. About all I can do is lay out the facts as I know them. Little by little things start to click for people and then they want to know more...the more I can produce the better the odds of everybody getting what they need. But the reality is that it's all a mysterious sort of process and I can never be entirely sure what bits will connect better than others.

So I don't try to tell anybody that to really understand this stuff you need to follow a specific path of knowledge exactly. Everything I might try to point to in this way has its potential for misinterpretation anyway. Instead, I try to find fairly dynamic "coins" that people can test on their own initiative with relative little effort...some things you can even just look at that comprise the possibility of rewiring your whole damn universe for instance, hence the mirrors etc...

Or the TwinStar Meditation, or the Nuclear Hexagrams (which I still need to lay out) or random I Ching fields experiments, or the Tetractys itself or maybe any one of dozens of fundamentally stand-alone practices that hold out the potential for igniting a synchronistic sort of epiphany which then becomes its own motivational enginery once this has been successfully realized. If I cannot tip the balance in relatively small ways, there is simply no point dragging anybody into the really heady stuff. They'll just run away screaming, and perhaps they should.

Alchemy has a saying that until the Dragon bites you, knowledge just sort of hangs on you like so many dead leaves. That being the case, the whole idea is to try to find ways that might encourage that Dragon to strike. Once that happens, you've got not only a motivated student, but a proper peer to boot...

m1thr0s

I can attest that this is very much how working with this material has affected me. I, happily, have had a heavily ritualistic and theurgic background and path. Once I started the really working with the material here, I felt as if there was a very tangible, very noticeable, and to me very real, hooking into some of the most successful 'pyramids' built during my years of working (for me specifically it has been my work with IAO, Thoth, Nuit, and 93). Other elements now have a sort of by-the-way-side aura to them. Its hard for me to put much of this to words at this point, because I'm still sorting it out. Overall, I have this feeling of a dialogue, an interrogation going on in my universe, an overall test for efficiency.

[m1thr0s]

such reports are very encouraging fr. novum. Abrahadabra itself seems uniquely geared to being tested very hard...it can not only take it, but actually seems to thrive on it. It would seem to have been almost designed to take a lot of heat and keep on rolling, somehow. Even before we come to Trigrammaton (which is embedded in its lines), the Tetractyl expressions of Abrahadabra, alone, are especially athletic in nature...thus very well geared to tantric applications, but also perfectly flexible in terms of ritual ones.

Somewhere in all of this, this is going to prove to be its *victory dance* in some way or another...the fact that it can be tested in all kinds of competitive environments and circumstances is going to wind up being its special claim to fame I think. I only wish I could think up more ways to test its metal that would have as broad an appeal as possible. It's the kind of tool I would feel confident taking into situations where everything else had failed for instance, whether we might be talking about excercising violent demons or sealing up breaches or blasting doors that nothing else seems capable of affecting or who knows what all...

So while it is not exclusively a magickal weapon per se...it nevertheless makes perfect sense to me that a *god of war and vengeance* might be partial to its properties. whether we we are dealing with the ability to channel tremendous amounts of information flawlessly and frictionlessly or raw unbridled power itself, this is a tool that seems ready and eager to jump into action at a moment's notice...

All in all, its ability to find independant validation on its own internal merits is already proving to be its most defining characteristic.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

I can attest that this is very much how working with this material has affected me. I, happily, have had a heavily ritualistic and theurgic background and path. Once I started the really working with the material here, I felt as if there was a very tangible, very noticeable, and to me very real, hooking into some of the most successful 'pyramids' built during my years of working (for me specifically it has been my work with IAO, Thoth, Nuit, and 93). Other elements now have a sort of by-the-way-side aura to them. Its hard for me to put much of this to words at this point, because I'm still sorting it out. Overall, I have this feeling of a dialogue, an interrogation going on in my universe, an overall test for efficiency.

That sounds cool. It's nice to hear other people's work with it. You get dialogue too? Last year I acquired the ability to drop in on people's conversations in the middle of nowhere, but the 001 mirror amplified this by causing the thoughts in close proximity to be heard as whispers, particularily stronger from non-corporeal entitities. That was neat but I didn't need it so it died down some after a few days. I'm finding ways to turn the abilities off and on as I need to. (People are more boring than I thought.)

I don't get the 93 thing either...is that some sort of in joke greeting?

[MythMath]

I know nothing, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_%28Thelema%29

[Naomi]

Well it looks like a dick and a ballsack. So to me it's the equivalent of people flashing when they say "hi".

Seriously that's all I think when I see it. I thought it was supposed to be funny or something.

Wait you're not a Thelemite are you MythMath?

[fr.novumorganum]

besides the greetings and all, there is a whole range of practices designed around the two formulae "do what thou will is the whole of the law" and "love is the law, love under will". "every man and every woman is a star" is usually conisdered a part of the formulae. For me 93 workings involve True Will + Love + Star. My own versions of this theurgic/taoist in flavor.

[MythMath]

How do you incorporate TwinStar within that...?

[fr.novumorganum]

ok, i don't get those two at all

just like any concept, there is a real core of meaning, and then a lot of empty junk that ossifies around it.

[fr.novumorganum]

How do you incorporate TwinStar within that...?

see here (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=14711&postcount=14) and several of the posts in that thread

edit: and I think its the other way around, abrahadabra encompasses all that. In my limited practice at least, this system is the strongest True Will I've yet tapped into via a working. But maybe that's just a feature of my own path so far...

[m1thr0s]

yeah...I prefer 9³ personally...Pythagoreans refer to 9³ as the number of the Sun, number of the Republic, also the number of the Great Work etc...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

yeah...I prefer 9³ personally...Pythagoreans refer to 9³ as the number of the Sun, number of the Republic, also the number of the Great Work etc...

m1thr0s

huh, very cool. of course the sun reference would make any thelmite happy.

[MythMath]

Thanks Fr No, I remember reading that before... ;)

I just need to keep re-reading this stuff...

With each pass I come away with a clearer
understanding of what area to study next... :yes:

[Naomi]

Well I'm just kidding really....

That's a great thread though, thanks for posting that I had forgotten about it....

[m1thr0s]

As simple as it appears to be on the face of it, this proof is probably one of the strongest I've actually got in my whole six-demon bag...

http://www.abrahadabra.com/images/gridproof.b.gif

The thing is...this isn't going to go away and it restores the relationship of the Tetractys to Abrahadabra, which somehow seems to have been lost in the shuffle altogether. You can't understand what Abrahadabra really is all about without this foundation laid in first. It's all very fine and good for us to gawk at pentagrams and hexagrams within the Tree of Life but it doesn't actually inform us of anything that we don't essentially already know. This, however, does...though it takes a little skill to know what you are looking at and why it matters.

One of the things that this is telling us is something many traditional qabbalists are simply not going to want to hear...that the Tetractys doesn't actually need the Tree of Life to qualify it's own structural integrity, yet can be shown to contain the Tree of Life as an extended form of itself. It is telling us that the Tetractys comes first and that the Tree of Life is not a self-contained continuum at all but is in fact an extension of something both older and greater than itself.

How do we know this? While I am not as expert in this language as I would like to be, it all has to do with simplicity vs complexity within biological systems. From the Tao Teh Ching on down we are told, From Nothing cometh One, From One cometh Two, From Two cometh Three, From Three cometh the Myriad Things. The further from source things are the more complex their systems tend to be. The Tree of Life is a highly complex structure and there exists no means within itself to demonstrate exactly how it collects back into anything simpler. This is what the Tetractys provides. It defines that simplest possible structural totality from which all things can be demonstated to emerge (ie, The Lo Shu Principle) and finally collect back into as well.

This whole thing lays in an alchemical logic to "stars" that is impossible to overturn. This will start out as a whisper in my opinion but the dialogue cannot be silenced. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's only going to get stronger and louder as time progresses. The star is literal. It's a literal and identifiable anatomical estate linked to the Body of Man through the agency of the Tetractys. The Tree of Life is but one layer of this whole dynamic anatomical sum...it is that layer closest to us in physical proximity, but it takes the whole equation to consciously link the whole potential. If we don't even have a clue what "star" we are talking about, it will avail us nothing, so this is big. This is either true or it isn't true and if it is true, then it's a big damn deal.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Woah, that is powerful.

[Radiant Star]

One of the things that this is telling us is something many traditional qabbalists are simply not going to want to hear...that the Tetractys doesn't actually need the Tree of Life to qualify it's own structural integrity, yet can be shown to contain the Tree of Life as an extended form of itself. It is telling us that the Tetractys comes first and that the Tree of Life is not a self-contained continuum at all but is in fact an extension of something both older and greater than itself.

I can remember us having a conversation about this many months ago.

Wonderful post, you just get better and better.

[m1thr0s]

Woah, that is powerful.
yeah...it is...and it baffles me sometimes how difficult it seems to be to convey. future science think-tanks all over the world should be climbing up my ass about now but this is not happening. We are programmed to think in terms of "proprietary knowledge", whereas I actually don't give a shit about any of that and am instead banking everything on global anatomics...yet people still think of "my shit" as somehow uniquely "mine"...so there are barriers that have to be dealt with here.

People are getting it though...a little here and a little there...it's all starting to connect but we have a long way to go on this puppy.

Maps alone won't nail it...

I can remember us having a conversation about this many months ago.

Wonderful post, you just get better and better.yeah...I often find it is essential to go over the same ground from at least several different angles. I have certainly done this in my own mind many times so it shouldn't really surprize me that it may also need to be communicated in this same way...

I think the truth is that I am a much better thinker than a writer.
I mostly do ok but my thought processes are always much stronger than my writing...

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

Maps alone won't nail it...
Yes, I think that anyone that has experienced the Twin Star in any way would agree that the theory alone is not enough, but that is usual for these kinds of systems anyway.

Frater Novum Organum testifies to this in post #19 of this thread I believe.

I think the truth is that I am a much better thinker than a writer.
I mostly do ok but my thought processes are always much stronger than my writing...
Me too.

[fr.novumorganum]

that really is a great mirror to work with. just watching it for a few minutes, its hard not to start to meditiate/feel the emenation of 0 into matter. i've heard it said that many proofs in magick are like proofs in aesthetics: they are a kind of felt resonance with the truth. This image emotes truth like few others.

[m1thr0s]

they call that the "ring of truth" (principle) fr. novum and it's not just a recognized principle in magick, mathematics & art but also law (believe it or not) and possibly a dozen or more other areas I haven't been made specifically aware of. (This is one of Dragon's favorite topics by the way) It's definitely one of the most important variables we have to work with in exploratory science of any kind. If something "rings true", that typically means that it synchronizes with everything else that we know to be true that might have any relevance to the matter at hand. While we can't rely upon it exclusively, given an even odds on any two opposing propositions, the one that "rings true" will almost always turn out to be true in fact.

m1thr0s

[m1thr0s]

you know, working within the huge range of visuals alone seems like a never-ending sort of marvel to me. I am constantly running into new and powerful dynamics...some of which don't even seem to have proper names...

case in point...in grid proof #1 I decided to include the "Secret Chiefs" (the shaded triangles) as a kind of after-thought, since it is a related subject matter that sometimes seems a little isolated demonstrated all by itself, right? It's just sort of easy to miss the significance, that's all...so ok...I include it along with the Four Worlds and everybody is happy...

But wait...not just happy...something more than this. Now all of a sudden I am finding myself being strangely hypnotized by the ensuing dialogue that is occurring internally in this image! It's not just my imagination...it's like a mental mobius loop or something has been established. Is it just me or have I somehow stumbled upon something that feels very like the 4th dimension or something...only occuring at the level of mind...

This is too damn bizarre...I can't even explain this shit yet I know for sure it is occurring! Help me Mr. Wizard...lol...

edit: The best Yantras act as portals in no uncertain terms. I have always known this. But it's very difficult to predict for sure. It's kind of a trial and error sort of thing because the math end is just too "out there" to be defined clearly. You might crank out 1000 really cool images and then all of a sudden you'll hit upon an actual portal...and these are different than the others. These aren't just cool images...these suckers are actually potentially dangerous...lol...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

no, there's something there. at first i just thought the second row of chiefs, and the middle two of the bottom row were interpolating each other---but as i concentrated on the dialouge, i began to get a very clear overlaying of the twin serpent woven right up the middle.

[m1thr0s]

One of the really difficult things we encounter with the Ain Soph Aur technique in general (no matter how we approach it) is that this energy is extremely subtle...so subtle that it can easily get siphoned off in a thousand different ways before ever accomplishing any useful sort of task.

This is why our channeling strategy is vitally important...this is why "pretty good" just isn't good enough when it comes to this kind of energy. What Abrahadabra (and the Tetractys generally) really seems to be doing is maximizing that draw and circulating it throughout the entire Body of Light system without incurring any waste at all. This is critical to working with this kind of energy.

Kundalini & Chi are actually very forgiving energy sources in comparison. Though still difficult to master, these are nevertheless in closer proximity to our physical bodies so that it is easier to identify their presence as a rule. They are also not incompatible with Ain Soph Aur energy...but the techniques involved are going to be a little different simply because the energies themselves are different.

Despite its subtlety, it is logically the Ain Soph Aur energy that actually holds out the highest potential for achieving any kind of stellar stature, so that the star model is a very important thing for us to grasp...that is basically what we are shooting at in trying to harness this particular kind of energy. I have serious doubts that either Kundalini or Chi will ever quite be able to accomodate such altitudes personally. I believe these sort of come with the package of being human whereas the Ain Soph Aur energy is offering us a different sort of package...one that is not so close in physical proximity but has the ability to mutate to very high altitudes, magnitudes, velocities and so on.

One of the things to bear in mind is that the Crown Chakra and Ain Soph Aur are not actually the same thing. Abrahadabra is drawing down on Ain Soph Aur and that's a pretty radical departure from linking 10 to 1 alone. In Abrahadabra, we are linking 10 to 0. There can be no mistaking this in the Tetractyl Model of Abrahadabra as I have presented it here. But it means we have to anticipate what this difference really means in our whole approach to the matter. It's a different paradigm than Kundalini...different even than the 5 Koshas or the entire Vedic system. Not in competition with these things necessarily at all but definitely set apart in certain ways and also not necessarily accomplished by any other means. There is nothing available to us in the Eight Limbs of Yoga that specifically indicates being able to link directly to Ain Soph Aur. I think that this ultimately requires a different kind of technology than even the Yogas themselves have been historically trained on.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Hmm, yeah that post made me smile. Hey it's sort of breaking the ceiling on present creation, drawing on nothingness, the possibilities are limitless. I suppose the stars were the only place humanity has left to go.

What that means is it sort of breaks every single limitation imposed out there. People are going to have to redefine what they think they can and cannot do. Even chaos magicians are going to have to get a little bit closer to thinking "Everything is Permitted."

Should be interesting if anyone actually begins to realize what phenomenal power is just lying around everywhere around this site.

[Kuroyagi]

I agree with this. This system here gives one the opportunity to actually test and integrate this dai xuan/ain soph "energy" into ones practices. Until now it has been mystified or been approached with too much awe too often to be researched more coolly. Also the terms "nothing" and void etc. are substitutes that -in maybe 98% of all cases- are logically misunderstood as the absence of something, while in my view those few who applied them correctly (out of experience instead out of copying the words of others ;)), merely used them for lack of any better term only; maybe even "non baryonic matter" would be a better term than "nothing" nowadays. I really hope that "humanity" gives itself/us the chance to procede further along this trajectory: its certainly not a waste Id say, after all this here maybe does require less profound knowledge of all the intricasies of the traditional systems- than a certain kind of subtle and at times even shrewd intelligence that I personal feel can open new doors for the species if developed further.

[m1thr0s]

Chaos Magicians have (in the past) often identified my work with their own body of doctrines and I don't try to dispute that. I have frankly been too busy researching a particular model of reality to very much concern myself with what always felt to me like a Hollywood branch of Magick...just in the way people like Hine and Wilson and Carroll (among others) seem to present themselves...always playing to the spotlight it seemed to me and just a little too aware of which side their bread was buttered on for my taste.

But the parallels are fairly stark so we may actually have a formal Chaos Theory of the Body of Light in the works here...that still remains to be seen I think. Certainly certain recent physics models such as the Plasmic Sun or Morphogenetic Resonance etc seem to have a great deal in common with this more metaphysical cosmology. In any case, I certainly am a sigilist and harnessing Chaos energy does seem to be an integrated aspect of all of this. Ain Soph Aur (or "undifferentiated light* as Luria called it) seems to almost qualify as the Khaos underscoring Chaos to me in many respects.

I don't necessarily buy into every catchy little soundbite though...nothing is *permitted*? Who the fuck actually cares...:confused:

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Chaos Magicians have (in the past) often identified my work with their own body of doctrines and I don't try to dispute that. I have frankly been too busy researching a particular model of reality to very much concern myself with what always felt to me like a Hollywood branch of Magick...just in the way people like Hine and Wilson and Carroll (among others) seem to present themselves...always playing to the spotlight it seemed to me and just a little too aware of which side their bread was buttered on for my taste.

But the parallels are fairly stark so we may actually have a formal Chaos Theory of the Body of Light in the works here...that still remains to be seen I think. Certainly certain recent physics models such as the Plasmic Sun or Morphogenetic Resonance etc seem to have a great deal in common with this more metaphysical cosmology. In any case, I certainly am a sigilist and harnessing Chaos energy does seem to be an integrated aspect of all of this. Ain Soph Aur (or "undifferentiated light* as Luria called it) seems to almost qualify as the Khaos underscoring Chaos to me in many respects.

I don't necessarily buy into every catchy little soundbite though...nothing is *permitted*? Who the fuck actually cares...:confused:

m1thr0s

m1thr0s your disdainful and uncaringly cool attitude coupled with the misquoted herd slogan of Chaotes makes me feel totally bourgeous and embarassed to call myself a chaos magician. Can I be a mutational alchemist now? :(

[Kuroyagi]

:laugh:

let me help you out m1thr0s: here you should say: "you've been one from birth, baby!" :rofl:

[m1thr0s]

Is it misquoted? rofl...how unhip of me...

I think it's really all about the same stuff probably. For me, Mutational Alchemy is case-specific and in the case of the Body of Light is an important distinction to be drawing attention to...

There's a very particular genetics connection going on with all of this that I never want to get very far away from in terms of principle. In Mutational Alchemy, we are very distinctly discussing how to go about reengineering the code itself...and we've got help with this as well...there's this whole body of ancient wisdom poised and ready to pitch in to make that possible...

let me help you out m1thr0s: here you should say: "you've been one from birth, baby!" :rofl:yeah, you know...LaVey is probably dancing a little jig over that one. Mutational Alchemists are not made but born...possibly so...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Is it misquoted? rofl...how unhip of me...

Yes, it is actually:

Nothing is True. Everything is Permitted.

I think it's really all about the same stuff probably. For me, Mutational Alchemy is case-specific and in the case of the Body of Light is an important distinction to be drawing attention to...

I've come to think of Mutational Alchemy as something that can mutate DNA in a very direct way, I've always been interested in this and you know, if you look long and hard enough for something eventually you find it. It's just, m1thr0s happened to have gotten there before I did, which saves me a lot of work I think. Which he is aware of already...

There's a very particular genetics connection going on with all of this that I never want to get very far away from in terms of principle. In Mutational Alchemy, we are very distinctly discussing how to go about reengineering the code itself...

Yes I'm pretty tenaciously locked onto it as well. Once I realized what was going on here I had to pick up where I left off and start rethinking my whole approach. I've started remembering things I rather pushed to the wayside because I couldn't apply them yet, and I've thrown away a lot of extra stuff I've gathered to reinsert the new keys to fit the locks I couldn't open yet. So it's real nice, like a major transition in understanding built on lots of smaller motions.

and we've got help with this as well...there's this whole body of ancient wisdom poised and ready to pitch in to make that possible...


...I'm sure.

[Naomi]

:laugh:

let me help you out m1thr0s: here you should say: "you've been one from birth, baby!" :rofl:


Yes of course, how could I forget, the true meaning of life and the universe is literally to support each other's efforts at appearing cool and hip...really sort of oils the machinery in a system based on aesthetics primarily....

[m1thr0s]

Nothing is True. Everything is Permitted.Yes, I remember now. The first half is a pun and the second half a useless conjecture...sorry, I really just don't have time for these silly little word games...

People can believe whatever they want...obviously...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

heh heh...yeah less thunder from the mouth more lightning from the hands sort of thing. On another note...

With all of the diamonds going on in the grid I can't help but notice the relationship between Tibetan magick and the concept of diamond itself, the diamond vajra, the diamond zombie (a dakini) or Vajrayana (The Diamond Way) I'll have to check that book out again tonight and post some stuff in the Buddhism folder about that.

Diamonds are carbon after all, as is all life on earth so it's an interesting coincidence, though what it has to do with anything is beyond me at the moment...hmmm

I think the tree of life on the grid proof really reminds me quite a bit of the vajra implement. Someone wrote a good article here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra

[Ainsloch]

I like the proofs you presented, pretty undisputable if you ask me. It is ok knowing that the tree of life is derived from the vesica, but the important factor is that by overlaying the tree on the tetractys we obtain a natural set of mathematical properties to work with... a fundamental set in fact. We can see that each of the four circles underlying the tree has a diameter of 4 for example. This means that curiously both the circumference and area of each circle is exactly the same. As I pointed out before the central body of the tree is revealed to be a 3x4 rectangle, which houses the 3,4,5 right angle triangle. Therefore we get a very nice set of dimensions for the tree... these are revealed by the structure of the tetractys, not the other way round. The tree of life tells us nothing new about the tetractys!

Funnily enough, looking at your proofs I noticed the six in one phenomena that I remarked upon in a post about the number seven. One can see this in action on the tree with the circle whose outer numbers are 1 to 6 centered around Daath. Daath then would be the "magical" or mysterious seventh. I have used one of your proofs to demonstrate this effect, hope you don't mind!

[m1thr0s]

Therefore we get a very nice set of dimensions for the tree... these are revealed by the structure of the tetractys, not the other way round. The tree of life tells us nothing new about the tetractys!Yes, and this is a pivotal factor for exploratory science in this whole realm. Among other things, it gives us a tangible way of distinguishing Tree & Star relationships that are not simply treating the Star as a metaphorical allusion to certain Tree properties. This is the mistake that has been made thus far in my view with regards to the whole Star thesis in general.

Funnily enough, looking at your proofs I noticed the six in one phenomena that I remarked upon in a post about the number seven. One can see this in action on the tree with the circle whose outer numbers are 1 to 6 centered around Daath. Daath then would be the "magical" or mysterious seventh. I have used one of your proofs to demonstrate this effect, hope you don't mind!No, I don't mind...it doesn't upset anything to look at this. I see that polar opposites also all add to 7 in that arrangement so this is interesting.

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Just like dice...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/coloreddice.jpg

[Ainsloch]

I see that polar opposites also all add to 7 in that arrangement so this is interesting.

Well spotted, yes that is indeed a nice occurrance.

[Ainsloch]

Just like dice...

Interesting you should post this. You reminded me that the cube is also an example of six around one, that is six sides enclosing a central point. Geometrically and mathematically the cube is tied to to the equilateral triangle and hence tetractys. This is because the square root of 3 is the controlling ratio of the equilateral triangle, but it is also found by dissecting a cube diagonally! Hence triangulation is essential to the 3D world of form and volume, which the cube represents.

[MythMath]

Your new avatar looks like my dice imploding... :laugh:

Same colors...

[imagenerator]

....

Kundalini & Chi are actually very forgiving energy sources in comparison. Though still difficult to master, these are nevertheless in closer proximity to our physical bodies so that it is easier to identify their presence as a rule. They are also not incompatible with Ain Soph Aur energy...but the techniques involved are going to be a little different simply because the energies themselves are different.
m1thr0s

I can relate to the differentiation here. When I do the TwinStar meditation, it's very different kind of glow that I get from doing yoga or Qi Gung (I'm quite fond of both). I've been doing some study of Traditional Chinese Medicine as a compliment to my study of a type of Qi Gung based on the 5 Elements , and one thing I've learned is that the Chinese have a concept of "spirit" called Shen which is a different substance than Chi. Intuitively, it seems to be closer to this idea of Ain Soph Aur energy that you speak of and that we weave with. Anyone with experience in TCM and the Abrahadabra magick have any insights ?

[Kuroyagi]

Interesting is that "Shen" can also mean "God" and that its written by characters with the connotation　of "to expand"- like expanding consciousness...shen> 神 (Japanese: SHIN/ kami)...

[MythMath]

And the 21st letter in the Hebrew alphabet, Shin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_%28letter%29

Shin also stands for the word Shaddai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism#Shaddai), a name for God.

Because of this, a kohen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen) (priest) forms the letter Shin
with his hands as he recites the Priestly Blessing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_Blessing).

In the mid 1960s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960), actor Leonard Nimoy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Nimoy) used a single-handed version of this
gesture to create the Vulcan Hand Salute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_Salute) for his character, Mr. Spock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Spock), on Star Trek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series).

[m1thr0s]

one thing I've learned is that the Chinese have a concept of "spirit" called Shen which is a different substance than Chi. Intuitively, it seems to be closer to this idea of Ain Soph Aur energy that you speak of and that we weave with.As it translates into English, the "SH" sound may become a J, a SH or an X predominently, so the Jen and Shen are really the same thing. I have seen "Spirit", "Intelligence" and "Man" represented by this word.

What is especially vital in my own discoveries...the thing that almost no one on these boards really has the skill to appreciate...is the discovery of the Man Line embedded in the traditional Word of Perfection. Standing between AHIH (Macrocosm) and IHVH (Microcosm) is AHVH (Man) which meets all the classical parameters of a third (yet hidden) Banners Division, yet I have not once seen it openly acknowledged anywhere. Still, there can be no mistake...it can be validated over and over again from scratch. This unexpected (and seemingly unwelcome) confirmation of the Trigrammal System via Western Alchemy is big...this means we can draw to the Word of Perfection itself as the elemental standard around which the entire bigrammal and trigrammal energy fields can be logically crafted. Neither the Hebrew nor the Western Hermetic Alchemical traditions has any willingness to aknowledge the significance of this find but neither possesses the combined skill to dispute it...it simply cannot be rationally controverted, once the facts are in...and they are in at this point.

So we have it...we have it nailed at the level of structure itself. Implementing that standard launches us into other dimensions but the critical gaps preventing us from understanding "how" we might construct these fields logically are gone. I anticipate it may take 100 years or more for the significance of this to really set in (assuming successful publication). Thus far, no one gives a damn about it since they are all much too busy defending their little pieces of a pie that no longer has any actual relevance to anything anyway.

It is always this way with fools and their quasi-intellectual attachments...Those of us really tracking this thing with a vengeance had better not make these kinds of errors...there may not be that much time left to us to get these things ass-backwards.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

m1thr0s that is cooler than hell, I never noticed that...

[m1thr0s]

really powerful & significant reality matrixes don't just come in on one or two or three channels Naomi...they tend to flood everything, picking up slack and connecting loose ends straight across the board...everywhere you look. This has been the case with all this Abrahadabra stuff. It's a freaking monster...it's everywhere, patching up holes in godamm everything.

That's one of the reasons it's so hard to know how to package it all up...This one little detail alone virtually rewrites the fucking Zohar...

So there's Macroprosopus and there's Microprosopus...oh yeah...and Man...almost forgot about him!

okeedokee then...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

hee hee hee ^_^

I think you're literally 20525925092029505920 gazillion eons ahead!

[m1thr0s]

yes and no...the frustrating thing is that I'm right on schedule...it just turns out to be a really shit-eating gig...

power and money at critical junctions like these tend to be diametrically opposed to one another...because look at what is going on here...should all of this prevail it's going to continue impacting everything the same way as we see it doing already. It's not going to stop until the old matrix is completely dismantled. There are forces...intelligences of a kind that know this and money is their principal talisman. They are going to do everything in their godamm power to use that talisman to slow me down. They know they can't defeat me personally but they don't have to defeat me to defeat the world...if they can just slow the shit down long enough they can program their fucking rats to blow the whole thing sky high if need be. You really think this shit is not already set in motion?

There may yet be a few surprizes in all of this but at this time it is vitally important for me to go public in any way that I can...

Anyway...that's another topic. Don't need to belabor the obvious...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

yes and no...the frustrating thing is that I'm right on schedule...it just turns out to be a really shit-eating gig...

power and money at critical junctions like these tend to be diametrically opposed to one another...because look at what is going on here...should all of this prevail it's going to continue impacting everything the same way as we see it doing already. It's not going to stop until the old matrix is completely dismantled. There are forces...intelligences of a kind that know this and money is their principle talisman. They are going to do everything in their godamm power to use that talisman to slow me down. They know they can't defeat me personally but they don't have to defeat me to defeat the world...if they can just slow the shit down long enough they can program their fucking rats to blow the whole thing sky high if need be. You really think this shit is not already set in motion?

There may yet be a few surprizes in all of this but at this time it is vitally important for me to go public in any way that I can...

m1thr0s

The people are trying...

We can show them the way but they are the ones that have to let go of their diseased gods and the corrupt religions that surround them.

Rats can be deprogammed, I've done so several times already. You think us goddesses wouldn't have Ng's back? He's fucking hot!

It's not over yet. So are you making videos too?
http://www.thetengu.com/abrahadabra/ng.jpg

[m1thr0s]

no...no video's yet...

there's a lot of complications to my life Naomi...I don't have nearly as much time for this shit as people imagine I do. I do what I can...

I'm not too worried. In the bigger picture you've got to figure if it's gonna fly it's gonna fly and you can't get too hung up in the obstacles. That's just normal bullshit really...

Since I am not really an altruist anyway it doesn't ultimately matter all that much. I'll do for others if I can but if I cannot...then I'll just take care of myself. The world has to play some small part in its own reclamation or there's really not much point to any of it anyway...

there are other worlds...smarter ones than this one I figure...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Many of us have roadmaps we envision for the course we think our lives should take. it's important to get headed in the right direction, but don't get so caught up in the concerns over your destination that you forget to delight in the scenery of each new day. Remember that some of the secret joys of living are not found by rushing from point A to point B, but by inventing some imaginary letters along the way. this is a magnificant journey that you are on. don't be afraid to explore unfamiliar territory. if you do happen to get lost, you will stumble across some of the most interesting discoveries that you will ever make. wander down roads you've never explored before and ones that you will never chance apon again. each day brings with it the miracle of a new beginning. many of the moments ahead will be marvelously disguised as ordinary days, but each one of us has the chance to make something extraordinary out of them. what the world is for us depends on what we are for ourselves so remember, life isnt a travel guide to follow, its an adventure to undertake.


Oh Vajrasattva, keep your pledge,

May the seeds of explanation and accomplishment germinate and flower across this vast earth

May the ensuing auspiciousness beautify everything until the limit of the universe

By the force of the immaculate compassion of the Victorious Ones and their Sons,

May everything adverse be banished for eternity throughout the universe

May all favourable omens become increasingly auspicious


OM MUNI MUNI MAHA MUNAYE SOHA - (Shakyamuni Buddha)
OM MANI PADME HUNG - (Avalokiteshvara) Compassion
OM WAGI SHARE MUM - (Manjushri) Wisdom
OM BADZA PANI HUNG - (Vajrapani) Invincible power over negativity
OM TARE TUTTARE TURE SOHA - (Green Tara) Helpfulness over obstacles
OM TARE TUTTARE TURE MAMA ARYU PUNI GYANYA PUNDING GURUYE SOHA

- (White Tara) Long Life Mantra

MAHAKALA - PRAISE OF THE SIX-ARMED DHARMA PROTECTOR

Quick-acting Avalokita, homage to you!

Wearing anklets, you trample Ganesa.

Mahakala, you wear a tiger-skin loincloth.

Fully adorned with snake-ornaments on your six arms,

The first right holds a triku, the middle a mala,

The last plays violently a damaru

The left holds a skull-cup, and a three-pronged lance,

And likewise a noose, which serves for tying up.

Your wrathful mouth completely bares its fangs

Your three eyes are fierce. The hair of your head blazes upward.

Your forehead is properly anointed with red lead.

On your crown, Aksobhya's royal presence is fixed.

You wear a great necklace of fifty men's heads, dripping blood.

On your crown, you're adorned with five dry, jewelled skulls.

You come from your tree and accept our torma offering,

Glorious Six-Armed - homage and praise to you!

Sternly protect the Doctrine of the Buddha!

Sternly praise the height of power of the jewels!

For us - teachers, disciples and entourage -

Please quell all bad conditions and obstructions

http://www.thetengu.com/abrahadabra/outer-yama-dharmaraja.jpg
Outer Yama Dhamaraja
11th Century

but yeah I agree you have to take care of #1 first, that's the chinese way....

[m1thr0s]

...I agree you have to take care of #1 first, that's the chinese way....
it's the only way really but I am at a place where most of this stuff can be conveyed...albeit with some difficulty...so that's just kind of where things are at for now.

I don't try to assess outcomes anymore. It's usually very disappointing anyway. So many artists in this world never lived to see their visions vindicated or appreciated by others...and a lot of their stuff was a hell of a lot more obvious than mine...

I get tired a lot these days...backlog I think...anyway...

m1thr0s

[Oblio]

Hey m1thr0s, maybe you've considered this already, but if you haven't, you might think about submitting an article to the esoteric journal (http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/submission.html).

I'd imagine that you'd easily be able to structure an article based on what you've already got.

[Naomi]

Then sleep. It will get off the ground - just wait.

This material world is hell. Actually....hell is more peaceful - and regimented.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

There is the question of accessability, or rather of how accessable you want your work to be. It would be ridiculous (as well as counterproductive) of course to suggest that you "dumb down" Mutational Alchemy, however something on the lines of Liber Null and Psychonaut would be an excellent option IMO, an introductory work of Theory and Practice that is self-clarifying, not overly cluttered with correlations, and that people of differing preferences can apply to their own practice.

[Naomi]

He does seem rather preoccupied with finding people who are smarter than him....that may happen but it's like finding a needle in a haystack. It'll happen with the right publication outlets.

Start them on the basic legos first. Bardon had a worse crowd to work with. I don't want to be morbid.

[m1thr0s]

well...right at this moment I am almost 100% convinced that the thing to do here is to produce a book that goes straight into action...that just lays out a whole series of practical meditation disciplines with a relative minimum of theory...enough to give people a sense of how to do perform the actions I think and how to position their minds in relation...

This is still a little tricky for an unknown writer coming straight from noplace but the ingenuity of it is that it addresses the biggest area of lack in general...people don't get the *action* side of things very well...and if they don't get that...they're fucking never going to get the theory since it really just won't matter to them.

So I am tentatively structuring a fairly simple thing just called TwinStar Meditations and it will start with very simple LoShu star meditations and gradually advance into more dynamic Abrahadabra and Hexagrammal Field renditions, maybe culminating at the Nuclear Hexagrams for instance but not going a whole lot further than this...

If it works...this will be a powerful visualization manual that stands alone just fine on its own but also integrates well into more complex future treatises...

In any case, I could run classes off of the thing if it's done right so even if nobody picks it up I'll still have a viable class syllibus on tap...anyway...that's sort of the current gameplan. There's no reason not to tell anybody about it...anybody that tried to beat me to the punch on this shit is gonna wind up looking like a Grade AA idiot anyway...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Sounds good...people love books.

[m1thr0s]

yeah? lots of graphics of course...publishers don't want to see that in an unknown author... I know the drill more or less...I worked for a small publisher for a few years...

I can stick to greyscale though so that saves a little on cost...odds are I would need to publish it myself anyway but who knows...

and there's always e-books I guess.

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Sounds ideal.

[Oblio]

What about publishing an article or two - I mentioned a journal at the end of the previous page (probably got lost :D) ~ link (http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/submission.html), that you could try.

[m1thr0s]

I think that's a great idea Oblio...thanks...I need to take a look at their venue to see if I could actually fit in or not. It's surprizing to me how many platforms are just not bold enough to take on my stuff...

In general a few articles would be good for me. While I write a lot I have become horribly lazy whatwith way too much internet writing, so my form has become sloppy...too folksy for my own good etc...it would serve to slap my form back into line a bit better...

When I take the time I can write some pretty powerful stuff...

edit: oh yeah...just checked the link...these folks are pretty hardcore...not bad at all. good lord their site is ugly though...great content but they need a new web designer...lol...

great link...I'll probe into this a litttle deeper. Looks like I could slide Mutational Alchemy right in without having to spend too much time qualifying its historical emergence and all that boring crapola...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

The book idea sounds great...

Got a desired timetable going...?
______________________________

Let us know if you need help with any graphics, etc...

Even gruntwork... ;)

[m1thr0s]

desired? tomorrow would be good...lol...

6 mos - year is reasonable. If I really had the time I could meet the earlier for sure since I've got the essential content already...but graphics and formatting and editing etc...

I'd love to pull something out in 6 months though...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

THATS WHY WE OFFERED TO HELP GEEZ

oops my bad

lol

[m1thr0s]

I understand. everything is happening as it can...

this is getting way off track here though i think.

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Quote:
one thing I've learned is that the Chinese have a concept of "spirit" called Shen which is a different substance than Chi. Intuitively, it seems to be closer to this idea of Ain Soph Aur energy that you speak of and that we weave with.
As it translates into English, the "SH" sound may become a J, a SH or an X predominently, so the Jen and Shen are really the same thing. I have seen "Spirit", "Intelligence" and "Man" represented by this word.
No, those concepts may be correlating ones and the same thing (I dont know), but the characters and words are different: Jen/Ren is "man"/human being and written: 人、shen is transcribed the same (i.e. as shen) in both Wade- Giles and Pinyin 神, and e.g. "Xuan" (several meanings unknowable w/o a certain character) in pinyin would be "Hsuan" in W.-G. (here is a link to the systems but I cant imagine anyone in his right mind who would be interested in this by itself: http://www.sinistra.net/els/sup/transcript.html hm maybe linguists...)

I have never seen "man/ren/jen" been translated as spirit or intelligence, btw; saw you mentioning it several times and always thougt so...but you neednt worry about these things m1thr0s, its not connected to the practical functionality of the system; probably its best to use the heaven man earth designations where the t'ai hsuan is applied...in the future, any conclusions drawn from practical work with it neednt be formulated in those traditional terms anyhow..

In my opinion, if we look at it in the context here, then qi is more of the invisble component that permeates/"holds up"/sustains and supports the existence of a field (eg like time and space are not there before the universe was created but create in their interplay the universe-kind of thing,whereby this "inbetween them" would be qi) and shen is more the upwards movement or the movement itself that makes it transmute or shift (in the example: makes the universe expand or move) and thereby forms new structures of the whole, e.g. changes to another hexagramm or whatever...so that they would be part of one flow.

Also if you publish something I would-in your place- not be decidedly inimical to science (in the foreword and intro) but rather hold out a hand where possible, or just do your thing -being more positive (stating what you have to say) than reactionary and avoiding needless attacks in the vein of: "alchemy has always been discredited by science", just my honest opinion...rather it would be better and more correct, at that to say: "all the scientists who founded our modern sciences were also alchemists", "science was a part of alchemy" etc..or: "recently also the sciences have discovered the advantages of aesthetics or the interconnectedness between the observer (the subject) and the observed thing (the object)"...as you like of course, just some war strategy along the lines of: dont attack an enemy before knowing him (he may even appreciate you) etc...otherwise "great work" here indeed and good luck to you!

[m1thr0s]

thanks K - I don't actually have any first hand knowledge of Chinese language so can only go on what I have seen published by others. It's very possible that at least some of it is skewed.

yeah...you're right about avoiding unnecessary conflicts between "us & them" etc...It's a bad habit really and should be kept out of any formal treatise completely...no sense engaging a lot of self-fulfilling prophecies to no good effect and all of that.

m1thr0s

[imagenerator]

No, those concepts may be correlating ones and the same thing (I dont know), but the characters and words are different: Jen/Ren is "man"/human being and written: 人、shen is transcribed the same (i.e. as shen) in both Wade- Giles and Pinyin 神, and e.g. "Xuan" (several meanings unknowable w/o a certain character) in pinyin would be "Hsuan" in W.-G. (here is a link to the systems but I cant imagine anyone in his right mind who would be interested in this by itself: http://www.sinistra.net/els/sup/transcript.html hm maybe linguists...)


Thanks for the linguistic feedback Kuroyagi. I hadn't thought of the possible connection between Jen and Shen before this discussion. Intuitively I thought of Shen as something more related to heaven than to man. In the bodily substances realm, it's Qi that seems more correspondent to man, because I think of it as an interface between matter and spirit. Maybe blood and/or Jing (undifferentiated matter) are more correspondent to earth in TCM. Well, now that I think of it, blood may be described as a yin compliment to the yang of qi, because they both serve the function of moving mater/energy around the body, and so they may both be Jen-ish.

[Kuroyagi]

Thanks for the linguistic feedback Kuroyagi. I hadn't thought of the possible connection between Jen and Shen before this discussion. Intuitively I thought of Shen as something more related to heaven than to man.
Well thanks but at the end of the day those are only words as I said. Maybe we should just study this system that m1thr0s proposes as he presents it for a while; and then see if we can describe the things we draw from our experiences with it as simple as possible...but what you write is trueof course. "Shen" is more heavenly, and Qi (and Jing) is more connected to life- being inside "man" in this sense. Yet- in context of this discussion- I dont consider heaven exclusively as a "macrocosmic" aspect at all..more as a location or stage also inside "oneself"...same with "earth" and of course "man" too, somehow its both, but in practical "field" work its somehow all one...

Anyway, we neednt make correspondences from this system here to everything, its not necessary (meaning that the sephiroth or the tetractys are structurally necessitated by this system- as is the "heaven man earth" triple-structure, but the names arent the focus of it, we neednt cling to them as if man=human or earth=soil,planet or even "elements"...the Yi Jing/Tai Xuan Jing have an edge over pure elemental thinking; in this sense, somehow theyre much more simple but can express much more complicated things, too, maybe to compare it to the world of "medicine" one could say that they (hexagramms etc.) are to qi/jing as TCM/herbology is to bio chemical analysis and pharmaceutics, connecting physics with biology and going structurally deeper...both are valuable still.

[m1thr0s]

Mathematically...the Jen (Man) Principle positions something like the "singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity)" of astrophysics. Why would we say this? Look at it's relation to entire structural grids such as the 81 Shou, or tetragrams, or the 729 ternary hexagrams of the Tai Hsuan Ching. Always dead center...the unknowable Axis at the heart of whole mathematical engines incorporating all possible permutations not only of Heaven & Earth, but including Heaven, Earth & Man...

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

This is important. Thanks for clearing that up, m1thr0s.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Grid Proof #2 demonstrates our count and is the usual way we would go about constructing the Tree of Life itself, with a certain distinction particular to the Abrahadabra Grid, which is that the relationship of "zero", or "nothing" is clearly on the map, and not at one remove from it at all as we would ordinarily see depicted in more conventional Tree of Life configurations. Also Daath (called Knowledge) is not ambiguous in Abrahadabra but amounts to a well-defined coordinate "point" just as real as any other sephiroth, carrying the numerical valuation of a "dash", endowing it with the property of syntax over all alpha-numeric relationships. In this sense, the Abrahadabra Tree parts ways with the traditional Kabbalistic Tree of Life and leaves the never-ending debate as to the reality of these coordinates to others to fawn over at their leisure. In Abrahadabra, both Daath and Ain Soph Aur are real and vital "sephiroth" requiring acknowledgment and action.
How would you correlate this configuration with the Tarot? Or would a new Tarot need to be created?
I ask because I'm moving towards using a system where the only tools needed are a deck of Tarot cards and my intent (as suggested here (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/books/portable-magic/)).

[MythMath]

Come on gang, you know you want to...

Let's design the definitive Abrahadabra Tarot...! :yes:

We have everything we need, we must do it...!

[m1thr0s]

Because Abrahadabra is rooted in the Tetractys, which itself is a triangulated version of the Qamea of Saturn (or LoShu Square), my feeling has been that the most appropriate (and least redundant) divination system would be rooted in Trigrammaton and parallel the 81 Shou of the (out-of-print) Tai Hsuan Ching. As it happens, I have some years ago worked out the cards at the level of principle and even came up with a rough draft which was subsequently lost in a series of moves and probably wound up in some landfill someplace.

But the plan I had in mind was to create an alchemical deck that would operate quite differently than the usual Tarot, yet serve all the usual functions and really be quite powerful and unique I think. So 81 cards would be the basic system which happens to subdivide into 5 suits x 16 geomantic characters = 80 + 1 exception card (called the Sage of Lamps) at axis to the whole system. It turns out there are well-defined ways of identifying these suits based on the molecular qualities of the 81 tetragrams themselves...so what we wind up with is literally a *hidden* form of tetragrammaton featuring 5 complete suits - Cups - Wands - Swords - Disks - and Lamps, in 81 cards. It would also be possible to combine dice with the cards extending the system to a grand total of 729 elemental values. This utilizes the "portents" system of the Tai Hsuan Ching itself so that you have 9 portent possibilities for each of the 81 cards, which could be drawn on dice.

Anyway...I would love to get back to that project and yes, a little help would be useful. Naturally there would be a whole meditation system more or less built into the logic so you wouldn't have to learn "how to meditate" so much as you would just need to learn how to do correct readings/interpretations and the meditation aspect of it all would just naturally unfold in the language system itself. One of the things that makes this system so dynamic is that all the cards are defining both elemental and cosm variables so you've got this 5+6 thing running through it evenly. Think of it in terms of your 16 court cards in 5 elemental suits, where cosm distinctions are defining suits...so there are 16 court cards featuring macro above and macro below = Fire, 16 with micro above and micro below = Water, etc. This is possible since cosms have always been identified to yin/yang dominances (macro=yang, micro=yin etc.). There also happen to be exactly 16 remaining cards featuring the Spirit element either in the Above or the Below positions and these = Lamps...it all makes perfect sense when you see it all laid out.

so...I really don't feel like giving away more than this for nothing since this has been on the back burner for maybe 10 years or so already...it can definitely be done though and it would be something very old come into a brand new format...I'm not real keen on developing a new Thoth per se...this would be tackling Tetragrammaton itself from a fresh new angle.

note: I can safely discuss the outline (to some extent) since having this in itself won't establish the real power of the system so much as understanding how to approach the definition end of all these relationships...so whatever morons come along and think they can rip this off based only on the outer form are just going to make themselves look like idiots once the real deal is finally published. The imagery on these cards is especially challenging...you need to be thinking *future alchemy* more or less...which makes sense for a divination system anyway...

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

But divination aside, would such a deck be usable as a complete tool for ritual magic in the same way as the Tarot?

[m1thr0s]

absolutely...look...my whole attitude with "divination" after having spent many years with it is that there is really only one prediction in the final analysis anyway = *what you will is what you get* (shall be the whole of the prediction)...

the rest is really about biofeedback and about ascertaining where energy most needs to be invested. There is a tremendous amount of energy working logick that would be incorporated into this whole thing...that's ultimately what it's all about anyway...

I realize some won't altogether get what I am saying here but others will...

note: the best designs of course can accomodate many levels of application...

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

The imagery on these cards is especially challenging...you need to be thinking *future alchemy* more or less...which makes sense for a divination system anyway...

I would imagine involving something based around your previous tectractys images, combined -perhaps- with the relevant elemental, astrological, kabbalistic and i-ching symbols, the relevant area of the tectractys highlighted, and all this merged with the image of a suitable archetype imposed upon the triangle. Having said that I think it would be best not to overcrowd a card and that simpler is better.

[m1thr0s]

I think so as well...mirrors should not be cluttered and really that's what I see going on with deck systems generally. The system I drafted was able to work very effectively with just a few major themes...the Tatvas, The 9 Elements, The Tetragrams etc... I was astonished personally that so much information could be so neatly packed into very simple and uniform images/colors etc...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

*what you will is what you get* (shall be the whole of the prediction)...

Well then, the deck is nearly done... :yes:

I'm practically shuffling already...

[m1thr0s]

yeah...it's hard to tell MM...it might be the only book project I've ever come up with that would actually survive the test of time...

the thing is...if people can physically use something on a daily basis, then the ideas that make up its whole have found their natural root and everything else will just sort of happen as needed from there. I've got all these books I could write and have started maybe a dozen or more...got part way in and felt like, screw it you know? You'd have to be a freaking brain surgeon to follow this shit etc...

Now...since I happen to be a kind of brain surgeon that's no big deal to me personally but you can't use yourself as the gauge by which all others should be measured...it's one of the commonest and dumbest errors of the intellectual elite. Really hardcore genius finds its way into fairy tales and things that everyday people can pick up and use with relative little effort...

"...so that the people will say things have happened of themselves..." - Tao Teh Ching

m1thr0s

[Via Sinistrae]

m1thr0s: I am impressed by the work that you have accomplished thus far regarding the relationships that exist between the tetractys, the abrahadabra formula, and the tree of life. I am a lover of western philosophy, primarily due to it's high standard of and insistence on rigorously logical and clear thinking. This being so, I am often discouraged by, what I perceive to be, the sophomoric and asinine inability to think and explain one's self both consistently and clearly that is so often encountered within the occult community. Ergo, your article functioned as the proverbial "breath of fresh air" for me. I confess that I am rather new to a good number of the concepts employed therein, but am eager to explore them as time permits. Would you point me in the direction, whether it be local to this site or elsewhere, of some resources germane to these matters? It would be greatly appreciated. -N

[MythMath]

Hi VS, and welcome to the forums...

I don't know if you've seen the
'other half' of abrahadabra.com:

Table of Contents (http://www.abrahadabra.com/tableofcontents.htm)



MythMath

[Via Sinistrae]

Hi VS, and welcome to the forums...

I don't know if you've seen the
'other half' of abrahadabra.com:

Table of Contents (http://www.abrahadabra.com/tableofcontents.htm)



MythMath

Thanks and hello to you MM. Yes, indeed I have, although I am still working my way through it.

[m1thr0s]

Thanks Via Sinistrae...it is my great honor to be able to lend something with a little substance to those whose instincts towards occultism have not corroded their natural intelligence. I cannot approach magick or mysticism as "religion" per se...this simply has no value to me. I was captivated from fairly early on with the syncretic philosophy movement of the hermetics that seems to have gradually built up momentum over a long period of time in medieval europe and reached a kind of crescendo around the turn of the 20th century. It hasn't died off by any means but I do think we have witnessed some disturbing trends in route to the 21st century, including the kinds of observations you have made. I'm not sure how or when hermeticism became an excuse for shoddy thinking but it cannot forever prosper in that climate and so a few at least will have to take the bull by the horns and return it to its more implicit course.

My own area of research originally had nothing to do with Abrahadabra, surprizingly enough. I was a student of the I Ching who at some point stumbled upon the works of the modern qabalists and the Tree of Life in particular. While I was very taken with the potential that the Tree seemed to be offering, I was frankly appalled at the overwhelming amount of half-logic and outright double-talk I was seeing with regards to contemporary ToL doctrines. It was my ambition to try to find some way of fusing the mathematical clarity of the I Ching with the aesthetic splendor of the Tree of Life in general. Up to this point I was coming from a decidedly shamanic bent so I was already aware of the important connection between the I Ching and the DNA code, among other things. I studied nearly all the works of Crowley whom I also found both creatively inspiring and logically bankrupt at the same time. Still, his work was one of the important cornerstones of many of my own ideas. Into this mix comes Pythagoras and Paracelsus and a patchwork of western alchemical thought as well as the Upanishads and a number of important eastern influences. I studied Tibetan Buddhism almost exclusively for a time but have ultimately gravitated wherever this unspoken vision seemed to have inclined...which is really ultimately all over the map.

Abrahadabra itself was a kind of calculated guess at the outset. It struck me as having all of the possible earmarks of the kind of matrix that might be able to afford a genuinely global synthesis and as my experiments progressed it simply developed a life of its own unrecorded in any published works I am aware of. Without attempting to write you a comprehensive biography, these are more or less the key elements that got things rolling for me personally. If it will have any value to you I don't know...but perhaps so.

In general I would probably have to say that the model I am working from can be explored and tested from any angle that I know of so that once you have the basic structure laid in...nearly anything you choose to study will find its own resonance within this unusual *mathemagickal* thesis...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

the really mind-blowing thing about this system, IMHO, is that it is not just synthetic, but powerfully dialectic (which i really believe is one of the reasons the work is so obtruse to many readers). m1thr0s' work ranks up there with Adorno, Frederic Jameson, and Walter Benjamin in this sense...i may sound like an ass kiss saying that, but as an academic as well as an occultist i really believe that

synthesis is just conflating dualities; dialectics is challenging each end of the dichotomy with its opposite and seeing what survives...and what's striking is that the system itself has taken on that attribute...

[m1thr0s]

...it is not just synthetic, but powerfully dialectic which i really believe is one of the reasons the work is so obtruse to many readersI'd love it if you could expound a little more on that Fr. Novum...privately if you feel more comfortable. It may seem a little strange but there are people here and elsewhere that may actually have a better philosophical grounding than myself. It sort of runs with the territory sometimes and is a risk some of us are compelled to take. In order to keep pace with something moving really really fast, you sometimes have to take a few shortcuts you'd rather not take and just sort of hope that common sense and good instincts will prevail...

I am sorry that it sometimes seems awkward for people to express approval of this work openly...I totally understand the dilemma though. This is a time-saving step I am taking here with regards to this site...not the best way to present things in all cases as it may put viewers more on the spot than they would be just reading my books at a comfortable distance. For what it's worth I do appreciate these comments and perhaps if we can focus more on the "why" and the "what" than the "who" we can all benefit more comfortably from such critiques...

We are, afterall, all in this shit together...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

In a related vein...

Perhaps we need a FAQ-type post...

I'm finding myself wanting a single, initial place to 'send'
individuals who may have a potential resonance with this work...

Obviously, hyperlinks could shuttle folks to relevant articles,
images, etc. but 'the list' could be kept (deceptively) simple...

[Fio Praeter Humanus]

One thing I find interesting is the tree of life as well as all the proofs are within the triangle, which of course has long been associated with manifestation. So the four worlds and tree of life are manifestation through the abrahadabra grid. Bringing them to life and obviously much more.

Another thing I cannot take my eyes off are the three vesica piscis arranged on the grid. as seen below:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Frater_Nero/3.jpg

I cannot help but think of a link to the three principles, salt, sulphur, and mercury. Or aleph, mem, and shin if you'd rather stick with hebrew.

Any thoughts?

[Fio Praeter Humanus]

Another one, with the addition of the secret chiefs and twin star.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Frater_Nero/3-1.jpg

[MythMath]

T'ien/Jen/Ti

Heaven/Man/Earth

Sulfur/Mercury/Salt

Rajas/Sattva/Tamas

[deviadah]

May I jump in to add these:


Dusk - Noon - Dawn
Death - Maturity - Birth
Logos - Pneuma - Sophia
Sangha - Dharma - Buddha
Indwelling God - Astral Man - Physical Body
Water - Air - Earth
Fire - Air - Earth

:cool:

Also not so famous are; Prescott Bush - George Bush Sr. - George Bush Jr.

:rofl:

[m1thr0s]

Also corresponding to the three Astral Realms: Moon Worlds, Sun Worlds, Lightning Worlds...
often depicted as 3 descending triangles between 7-8-10, 4-5-9, 2-3-6...

One of the things that has always interested me about this construct is that Tree Paths are sort of treated as incidentals...not important enough in themselves to warrant much emphasis. What actually seems to occur is that the function of Paths switches over to the Tetractys so that we arrive at a system of Paths capable of balancing and uplifting the Tree along a more universal mathematical guidelines.

This confirms well when you consider how up-in-the-air Tree Paths have been historically...there really is no way to identify a single system of paths more "correct" than any other necessarily. That kind of stalemate does not bode well in physics. At the level of engineering, there are some things we need to know (with certainty) in order to know how best to proceed.

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Wow what a coincidence that you answered just now that I was about to comment on this!:
The Tetractys itself remains forever indivisible, but through the agency of the Tree of Life is capable of infinite divisions and sub-divisions through which all manner of elemental and psychic variations can be explored and exploited. In a very real sense, the Tree of Life is the great Phallus of Life by which all manner of procreative expansion occurs.Wanted to say that this expression is especially inspiring, to me. Could it then be said- to follow up on that comparison- that the "Tetraktys" in that its embedded can be likened to an "uterus" (a matrix in the most literal sense), or in a "0=2" sense: both to such a matrix and also the "Tip of the Phallus" and the "tip of the head"? [edit: whereby those "tips" are the top/kether of the TOL in a "1"-sense? Seen from an outside perspective that this graph affords us- the uterus is filled with "fluid"/liquid that has that Oceanic Feeling while on the inside the Tree in combination with the surrounding construct enables us to direct the flow and see/analyze its processes?...edit2: which is quite exciting cause thereby we have a sort of capsule or an in-vitro fertilization-device for the creation of XXX what? Universes?, of LIFE?..I feel that I have come to a sort of practical realization and breakthrough here for myself that- I must admit- is maybe old hat for some of the other posters...this is incredibly promising stuff, m1thr0s!]

(in relation to the "tip" of head/hat: Images of those stupid looking tinfoil hats in pyramidal shape that Crowley and others wore, and that allegedly focuses cosmic energies, come to mind, too. ;), I have actually not read his exact reasoning behind that, but only saw some famous picture...anyone can direct me to a writing where he explains this?)

[m1thr0s]

well...this whole thing is a classical *sleeper* K. I don't think it's going to be *old hat* for anybody for quite a long time yet. There's just too much going on for that to happen. I do think we may be witnessing something unexpected in terms of occult science itself though. Unless I am missing something, I see all the earmarkings of a legitimate science unfolding here such that given enough time and rigorous testing et al, I feel like all of this will ultimately be born out as validated fact. But whether that occurs or not is probably not as important as that it still opens up a whole new dimension in Tree of Life exploration itself...one perhaps not so dependent upon *traditional* anything...

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Im all the way with you on that. Even independantly of whats going on here, I saw some signs that a new foundation is to be laid, out there: in academics and in society to be more precise. This could of course mean that we wont live to see that happen, it could "break out" hundreds of years from now or in the next generation...or be inspiring far distant breakthroughs...

At least as far as the TOL goes, I think I may even have an advantage in relation to, say an orthodox rabbi or a very formally schooled CMer in that I dont know that "tradition" to begin with, and thereby I'm completely "un-prejudiced" towards any conclusive, well-presented discoveries. With others like the I Ching one has to do the jump and sometimes ignore whole (Confucian) libraries for practicality's sake. In philosophy, also, Heidegger has been especially pointing the way in this method: he basically made a tabula rasa (empty tablett); did away with ALL the classical speculations and yet strongly recurred to the pre-Socratics and an archaic past AND also had to invent a new "language", new words that fit the things he wanted to express. There are many parallels, and if one looks at all the cutting-edge stuff of science, its the same.

What I'm saying is that I think that this will not be done away with as another occult fad, as some form of art or superstition, but as far as I can see it is a valuable component of the future "science".

[m1thr0s]

Heidegger? Seriously? That's pretty amazing, man. if I'm keeping company with that kind of genius I'm a happy camper...that cat blows my freaking mind.

I'm only peripherally aware of his work though...hadn't realized he went through the whole process of trashing historical models. I can definitely relate to that...not even as something one might want to do so much as have no other choice in...

m1

[Kuroyagi]

His works are even very hard to understand in original German, but something keeps working on your mind after having read it. I'm also a sucker for words and language as a level next to and parallel with "content" and his new creations make all good sense. IMO Heidegger is and will be considered as the most influential philosopher of the 20th century in the future, all those postmodernists, as much as I love them, can pack...I dunno if he loses much in English translation but he uses German whose grammar is -sorry to say that- superior in its aspect to express theoretical things (is also its disadvantage- see idealism etc: some guys construct great theories but forget to come down to earth again, too ;))...yet ancient Greek seems to be (have been) even better; e.g. if one looks at a text with Greek, Latin, German parallel translation: then the Greek may be two lines the Latin 4 and German 6 or something- its just so damn concise..anyway this neednt concern you! (you lucky bastard!), you have a much more universal imaginary medium, like all those Han dynasty guys...yet only in an era of tv and internet...it could be the point of ignition.

well, anyways, this is OT- just giving me thumbs up, here!

[MythMath]

...the "Tetraktys" in that its embedded can be likened to an "uterus" (a matrix in the most literal sense), or in a "0=2" sense: both to such a matrix and also the "Tip of the Phallus" and the "tip of the head"? [edit: whereby those "tips" are the top/kether of the TOL in a "1"-sense? Seen from an outside perspective that this graph affords us- the uterus is filled with "fluid"/liquid that has that Oceanic Feeling while on the inside the Tree in combination with the surrounding construct enables us to direct the flow and see/analyze its processes?...edit2: which is quite exciting cause thereby we have a sort of capsule or an in-vitro fertilization-device for the creation of XXX what? Universes?, of LIFE?...
I'm reposting this here because it seems fitting...

The 9 elements of the superimposed fractal Tetractyl
(representing the entire Tai Hsuan Ching)
unveil the fluid interactions within the ternary and binary systems...



HermAphroditus

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/AscendingTriangleswith418ToLcopy.jpg

The Ankh, a glyph meaning both Mirror and Life

The Key of the Nile - Isis and Osiris

The Mirror of Venus - Aphrodite

Hermes phallic pillar

amalgamated with Aphrodite whereby he learned his great wisdom and magical powers

Becoming her Wise Serpent

Ouroboros

Ophis - king of heaven

revealer of mysteries

Wingless Dragon Ningishzidda

Intertwined doublesexed Sachan

The Balances - Scales, Ma'at

HeavenDaath balancing Jen

Jen - lingam/yoni/spirit

Tantric altarstones

Sma amulet

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/smaglyphcopy.jpg

Knowledge of Divine Power

Forbidden Knowledge

Daath

Jen

keys/locks

mirrors

Gnosis Gender Genitalia

(same etymological roots)

cunning with cunnus, a vulva

fascinating to phallus

staff of life

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/beastglyph.jpg

sol clasped by luna


Prince of Wands / Ace of Discs

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Vajra in the Lotus

ommanipadmehum



The Mirror of Life




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[Kuroyagi]

MythMath: I'll have to look into your thread too. What you posted is interesting to me- primarily I love the "bomb" and "wine-opener" shape of the poem (only MY interpretation of those shapes *hehe*), and several allusions, (never thought of the English word "cunt" actually coming from cunus..lol obvious though it is...) another very interesting thing is the classical elemental symbols compared to the ba-gua+yin/yang around the Tree, since Im funnily not *that* used to former its amazing how powerful latter seem to me, how much better they transport and energize the grid...YET the up and down triangles of the elements (fire/water is it?) are also very strong there, yet maybe interfere a bit with the grid that is also very triangularly based.

The most striking thing though is the placement of malkuth between the twinstar base/base of tetraktys...whats the reason? Thats pretty exciting, thanks!

You know, your artworks there are great excerises for practising the m1thr0sian sys., too- and also checking it here and there and comparing it to your designs...you two should get some curriculum stuff going- simple exercises- I can see you guys publishing books and getting that stuff out there via some "game" format, seriously! Taking on the world playfully. :laugh:

p.s. love the 7star, btw!: Prince of wands you say?- I'll check that out!

Sma amulet? well I have to look that up too. s-m-a...sales marketing academy...;)