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[darkdestiny]

Can you paste some information pertaining to rituals used in chaos magic? Any information on chaos magic for that matter. I have googled and yahooed chaos magic sites and I want to get information from you that I may have overlooked.

[Anibis]

Uh, have a look at Peter J. Carrol's 'Liber Kaos, Liber Null and Psychonaut'. Read the 'Illuminatus! trilogy' by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shae, Check out Grant Morrison's 'The Invisibles', and the 'Pricipia Discordia' by some freaks... Also, just to throw a curve ball at orthodox Chaos magic, read Delueze and Guattari's 'What is Philosophy?' (best book of the bunch in my opinion).

-Ibisis-

[DocHolliday]

I am going to second the reference to Peter Carrol's texts. Not just Liber Null and Psychonaught, but also Liber Kaos and Psybermagick. I'll add the following by Phil Hine: Prime Chaos, Condensed Chaos, and the Pseudonomicon.

In a nutshell, Chaos Magic is a results-oriented method, in which belief is considered just as much a tool as one's athame. However, I will also say that it is not the reckless and undisciplined ecclecticism you see online which many so-called "Chaotes" engage in. There is an amazing chapter in Michael Ford's Book of the Witch Moon which addresses that (along with the forward to the same book, written by Peter Carrol). Furthermore, and many Chaotes may disagree with me here, I firmly believe it's possible to utilize Chaos Magic while operating within the framework of a paradigm. Those who know me from other forums and are familiar with my work as a qabbalist should be able to support that claim as well ;)

[Anibis]

I see Chaos magic as like a universal solvent in some ways. I like to be judicious with it. It can eat right through you if you spill it. I agree with you, docholliday, that it can operate within paradigms (in fact, I think that's where it shines). To mea, you've GOT to read those CMT texts in the spirit of the theory, meaning as possible productions following the principle that belief is itself a tool, but I'd say that it just doesn't make sense to me as a paradigm in itself.
-Ibisis-

[fr.novumorganum]

An important branch of Kaos magick which is often overlooked is the 156 current, which deals with the inter-mixing of the energies of Kaos and Babylon.

I also think the description of Kaos magick as juxtapositional was rather on the money...

[Logos]

Uh, have a look at Peter J. Carrol's 'Liber Kaos, Liber Null and Psychonaut'. Read the 'Illuminatus! trilogy' by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shae, Check out Grant Morrison's 'The Invisibles', and the 'Pricipia Discordia' by some freaks... Also, just to throw a curve ball at orthodox Chaos magic, read Delueze and Guattari's 'What is Philosophy?' (best book of the bunch in my opinion).

-Ibisis-
See also:
Hakim Bey - "Chaos: The Broadsheets of Ontological Anarchism"
Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus and/or A Thousand Plateaus

Above all else, however, you ought to check out Michel Foucault's political philosophy as clarified in Power/Knowledge, which, in my opinion, goes a long way as far as demystifying magic is concerned. Read Power/Knowledge and then apply (or rethink) his "politics of sex" and "politics of writing" (etc.) in terms of the "politics of magic." I also find that his understanding of what he calls "relationships of power" help a hell of a lot when it comes to understanding the relationships between magicians and their rituals, symbols, tools, etc. For example, the relationship between m1thr0s and Abrahadabra (the Word and the forums) is a "relationship of power."

For sh*ts, here's a quote from Foucault's "Two Lectures" as it appears in Colin Gordon's English edition of Power/Knowledge:

"We are subjected to the production of truth through power and we cannot exercise power except through the production of truth."

One exercise that has helped me rethink my approach to both magic and alchemy is thinking about Foucault's statement in terms of the following phrases (all of which are familiar, I think, to most occultists):

"the power of the Word"
"magical powers"
"magic is power"
"I am a powerful magician."
And, of course, one can never forget Jennifer Connelly's famous line from the movie Labyrinth: "You have no power over me!"

What are "words of power" in terms of Foucault's understanding of power?

v/s/s/v

[Fr. Lucian]

Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson
Book of Self Pleasure by Austin Osman Spare
The Zoetic Grimoire of Zos by Austin Osman Spare
*Also, every thing that Peter J. Carroll and Phile Hine have written*

Here are some links to get started with:
Peter J. Carroll's Liber MMM:
http://www.gnosticcenter.org/Liber%20MMM.pdf

Phile Hine's Oven-ready Chaos:
http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/pdfs/orchaos.pdf