Kundalini Yoga and Body Temperature Rise

[Naomi]

Figured Kain might know something about this, or any other random yogis wandering by...


Ok I'm trying to shut out any external intelligence influence, (cleaning house) and so far I've got reaaallly hot skin, dry lips and my body temperature is really high, I've got crown pressure every two-three hours as well as nervous system activity on my right side and in my hara. Third eye is also really on fire.

I've been drinking alot of water but it's not really doing anything...in fact im not sure where it's going...

Last night I did a really crazy invocation and this morning I had the burned throat feeling, that's been happening everytime the crown activity flares up because I don't want to put my tongue back. So I push back on it trying to block the energy and I get a headache and it trickles down and then my throat burns.

I remember Gopi Krsna had a problem with this sort of activity and discussed the possibility that it's dangerous, but I gave that book away...aaaiiiyaaa

[Oblio]

Hey Naomi, it sounds like too much energy rising, meeting a block and then overflowing in various symptoms.

Perhaps you could try not fighting it. Go with the energy, let it purge itself, rise to where it has to go. I think you'll find that the external energy will disappear once you flow through with it.

Otherwise, you could just stay with the crown energy when you feel it. Don't worry about what is going on lower down, just be aware in sahasrara and let the lower energies work themselves out.

Kain does seem very aware regarding this topic, though, so maybe his advice would be better...

[Naomi]

Well, that is what I was doing for the past few months, just letting it establish. I got freaked out and wanted to do the hermit thing to figure out what the hell was going on so I shut out everything.

It seems to have stopped mostly, but my spine, left leg and hara are killing me, - I have a headache too.

Interesting eh?

[silentjohn]

You know, when i get heat/electricity from normal qi qong practice, it isn't nearly as exciting, or threatening as when I was messing w/ kunalini energy.

The reason is probobly evident.

edit: kundalini is like, major, dude.

[Oblio]

Very interesting :) what have you been doing - if you don't mind sharing.

[Naomi]

Oh I've been having sex with this dragon practically everynight, which seems to control the weather, cause electrical outages locally and stuff. Yesterday I broke up with him though, it just seemed like the smart thing to do.

I had a journal with everything in it but I deleted it yesterday to help gear up for the megaton destruction I was about to unleash inside my head. I posted a few bits over at occultforums though, and here's something I did in trance a few days ago, I was going to delete it but you can look at it:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100549

(yes that is blood)

Cool sex too, like telikinetic stuff I've never experienced - something flipping my legs up over my head and doing chiropracty on me even - Humans look pretty boring now - its like, you would die to get this high, just once, seriously it is fucking unbelievable. I seem to still be here though - I hope... Also I see coincidences and interconnectivity between all beings and events.

Like right now, when I look at your avatar and name, and signature, it has potent meaning for me. I'm trying to ignore it though.

[silentjohn]

weirdo.

[Naomi]

I know everyone is thinking it...thanks for being honest SJ....

[silentjohn]

NO worries, I've totally been taken over by something other than my classic, rational, and sane mind. That's burried and hidden in the depths of my livejournal, though. I was very proud about being open and real about it all, and then after it was said and done I sort of shuffled it underneath some history you know.

It's great you're so seemingly outright w/ these things - If everyone was as such, a new page would turn in history .. However the duplicitous edge seems to be that we -are- outright with -everything- and that includes -deciet- and -falsehood- and -illusion- and so fourth...

A universe of already brutal honesty then. It seems the cultural ballcourt is where the game of treachery and manipulation broods.

[Kain]

Hey Naomi,

I would seriously advise that you took it easier with the attempts to mentally coordinate the process. Relax, seriously relax, no "peeking" to see what happens (if you know what I mean) nor the kind of bogus relaxation where one tries to *appear* relaxed to oneself, only to jump right back into action when things start to improve.

These are signs of imbalance and overload. I know them well from personal experience. You should not press yourself with coordinating currents in any direction.

Sometimes in such cases, the answer is to genuinely, honestly, stop having any intentions to affect/alter your condition, and just allow yourself to find it's own genuine and natural balance. As a side note, you may want to try to avoid food with spice and intense tastes in general, drink plenty of water (which you do), lay off too much sugar, avoid salt etc. . And honestly stop trying to control the process, and allow it to naturally re-fashion the 'architecture'.

Kain

[Kuroyagi]

haha- there are truely some sacrifies to be made. I myself have somewhat learned "to control" the weather on a personal level only (found out recently)- which is actually one of the most excellent magical disciplines that doesnt go with "will" alone. but only after my house got flooded (cellar) before I wanted to sell it in order not to starve, and then my new-bought apartement too on the first day I moved in (pipe leak from above apartement)- wasnt nice and thats only the tip of it, tbh. the other day I had to bring medicine to a friend in a thunderstorm- I didnt get wet: for the 5 minutes I walked from the underground to his place it had stopped. one has to bring sacrifies, but one has to keep it real. funnily enough I wasnt even once mad at "water", or the elements (which would have been a normal reaction for a human Id think), this is because "I am (of) it".

good fortune to you.

ah sorry OT again (how I hate these imbecile message boards): a drop or rise in temperature is an indication for either success (cold) or failure (hot) in a magical operation- this is connected to thermonuclear paradigms IIRC.

[Naomi]

I would seriously advise that you took it easier with the attempts to mentally coordinate the process. Relax, seriously relax, no "peeking" to see what happens (if you know what I mean) nor the kind of bogus relaxation where one tries to *appear* relaxed to oneself, only to jump right back into action when things start to improve.


Yeah I let some of the energy filter in during my TC working today, it really helped. I'm totally relaxed in an i don't give a fuck mode. I don't know what you mean by "peeking" to see what happens...nawp...what do you think I'm doing wrong?

These are signs of imbalance and overload. I know them well from personal experience. You should not press yourself with coordinating currents in any direction.

Great thanks for confirming that Kain. This is all really good and I'll hang onto it for future reference.

Sometimes in such cases, the answer is to genuinely, honestly, stop having any intentions to affect/alter your condition, and just allow yourself to find it's own genuine and natural balance. As a side note, you may want to try to avoid food with spice and intense tastes in general, drink plenty of water (which you do), lay off too much sugar, avoid salt etc. . And honestly stop trying to control the process, and allow it to naturally re-fashion the 'architecture'.


I've actually had an aversion to sugar recently, and I have a constant craving for raw seafood, avocados and tomatos. Weird huh? I've sort of been living on Taco Bell quite frequently (busy family life sort of thing)

Avoid salt, hmm ok. I guess I could just keep some rice around and skip Taco Bell with everyone else.

You know, it's funny, I freaked out because I thought something was affecting me the wrong way, but now I realize it was just my natural persona arising more fluidly and freely. It's sad though because I don't really have very many playmates that can groove with me on that level of relaxed except way up on the higher planes where everyone is all cosmic and funny..or extremely spooky and phenomenally powerful.

I think I crossed a few wires up there and got scared, slipped back into combat mode. I do this sort of...hmm...priestess thing, I'm really fucking good at it, but I've been taken advantage of before by some entities so I guess I'm too paranoid sort of this extreme skeptic-abstract thing going on. But it's cool you know, what's the worst that could happen - death? :laugh: (kidding - OR AM I?) :laugh:

All the best,

Naomi Chan

[Naomi]

NO worries, I've totally been taken over by something other than my classic, rational, and sane mind. That's burried and hidden in the depths of my livejournal, though. I was very proud about being open and real about it all, and then after it was said and done I sort of shuffled it underneath some history you know.

It's great you're so seemingly outright w/ these things - If everyone was as such, a new page would turn in history .. However the duplicitous edge seems to be that we -are- outright with -everything- and that includes -deciet- and -falsehood- and -illusion- and so fourth...

A universe of already brutal honesty then. It seems the cultural ballcourt is where the game of treachery and manipulation broods.

Ahah, now I'm going to go dig my claws into your livejournal, that's much too interesting to go without looking.....

Nice word play there SJ>......

Well, the tarot did tell me my honesty would bring me luck....it's such a pity I'm a kitsune, it might be easier on my if I wasn't. :no:

[silentjohn]

Ahah, now I'm going to go dig my claws into your livejournal, that's much too interesting to go without looking.....

Nice word play there SJ>......

Well, the tarot did tell me my honesty would bring me luck....it's such a pity I'm a kitsune, it might be easier on my if I wasn't. :no:

Naw, most of the neat things I think I put on invisible.

[Naomi]

haha- there are truely some sacrifies to be made. I myself have somewhat learned "to control" the weather on a personal level only (found out recently)- which is actually one of the most excellent magical disciplines that doesnt go with "will" alone. but only after my house got flooded (cellar) before I wanted to sell it in order not to starve, and then my new-bought apartement too on the first day I moved in (pipe leak from above apartement)- wasnt nice and thats only the tip of it, tbh. the other day I had to bring medicine to a friend in a thunderstorm- I didnt get wet: for the 5 minutes I walked from the underground to his place it had stopped. one has to bring sacrifies, but one has to keep it real. funnily enough I wasnt even once mad at "water", or the elements (which would have been a normal reaction for a human Id think), this is because "I am (of) it".

good fortune to you.

ah sorry OT again (how I hate these imbecile message boards): a drop or rise in temperature is an indication for either success (cold) or failure (hot) in a magical operation- this is connected to thermonuclear paradigms IIRC.

Lovely story Kuroyagi - sorry about your house! Maybe you need to study a bit of Feng Shui. - don't laugh, it uses trigrams! rofl

And man, tell me if you're about to starve, I'll send you some catfish. We have a whole river of them here. (eww gross I know!) :laugh:

You know there's a chatroom here. You click the little button that says Flashchat.

:D

[Naomi]

Naw, most of the neat things I think I put on invisible.

Awww. See I never keep journals, (normally) I figure I can just store them in my mindstuff and retrieve them later. Doesn't help me with dates but I can remember vividly my important milestones, just like I was there. (Probably because I never keep track of what day it is unless I've got a dayjob schedule to keep!) lol

[silentjohn]

Awww. See I never keep journals, (normally) I figure I can just store them in my mindstuff and retrieve them later. Doesn't help me with dates but I can remember vividly my important milestones, just like I was there. (Probably because I never keep track of what day it is unless I've got a dayjob schedule to keep!) lol


Yeah, well I was so deep inside myself my friends didn't want to hear me rant like a psycho - so it was kind of like my private forum where I could discuss things w/ myself - it got weird though, I'm tellin you.

I think a paper&pen system is much more lucrative for such things.

[Naomi]

Ah I love listening to your psycho rants though...they all make perfect sense to me!

How is it lucrative?

[Kain]

What I mean by "peeking" to see what happens is a tendency to mentally *claim* to be detached and relaxed while in fact it is only a pretense (sometimes conducted even unconsciously, youi actually thinking you do try your best in an honest manner) to persuade yourself that it is so, yet in truth being far from detached about the matter and simply "playing dead", waiting to jump back up and continue controlling the situation. Sort of like a fake pacification of sorts. What we often lack is honesty of conduct.

Kain

EDIT: Stay on topic people...this sort of discussion can perfectly well take place in chat or through PM. Thank you.

[silentjohn]

Ah I love listening to your psycho rants though...they all make perfect sense to me!

How is it lucrative?

I'm a bit out to lunch on that really.

I've learned to truely admire and enjoy the romantic and magnetic artifacts of reality that contrast the more edgy, electric, and lighter density of the technolust horde.

First I was at 0, then I went deep into things like hackers and electronic music and that whole style. Then I snapped back, and then some into the depths of the world that doesn't admire such "electric" things, if not dislikes them entirely and views them as inferior alltogether.

And now.. Well.. now I'm calming down and enjoying myself however I am.

EDIT: lol off topics.. anyway, It is lucrative because the vibrations and holograms are entriely different. Ink on paper, or data light emitted from a screen... .. maps territories, oh my.

[Kuroyagi]

Awww. See I never keep journals, (normally) I figure I can just store them in my mindstuff and retrieve them later. Doesn't help me with dates but I can remember vividly my important milestones, just like I was there. (Probably because I never keep track of what day it is unless I've got a dayjob schedule to keep!) lolThanks Naomi- well now its ok, and I fixed it then (there are some "funny" stories I have bout it and I learned much about lawyers and such ppl too..and about laddling hectoliters of shitty water out of the basement)..Im not about to starve but I'll keep your offer in mind- one never knows what comes, send me some care package maybe- a la Marshal Plan- haha-. :)...

Good fortune to you!

edit: sorry kain- I dont know anything about Kundalini...(Im too shy for chatting, too. ;))

[Naomi]

What I mean by "peeking" to see what happens is a tendency to mentally *claim* to be detached and relaxed while in fact it is only a pretense (sometimes conducted even unconsciously, youi actually thinking you do try your best in an honest manner) to persuade yourself that it is so, yet in truth being far from detached about the matter and simply "playing dead", waiting to jump back up and continue controlling the situation. Sort of like a fake pacification of sorts. What we often lack is honesty of conduct.

Kain

EDIT: Stay on topic people...this sort of discussion can perfectly well take place in chat or through PM. Thank you.

Any examples you could give me, for instance, is there any behavior you've noticed in me that would explain it better? Maybe you saw a particular instance that made you mention it?

[Kain]

Nothing in particular really, nor is it a comment directed towards you Naomi. It is most common among most of us. The Tao Te Ching phrased it well on this: "When the gates of Heaven open and close, can you play the feminine role?". Innability to let go is a very common problem in our culture.

As a side-note, these experiences are not really directly related to Kundalini. They are the heat and discomfort felt when our habituated impurities come into close contact with what lies above them. It is a natural step and from the viewpoint of Yoga proper, should be well co-ordinated with a series of practices affecting and remodifying one in all fileds of life.

Kain

EDIT: Kuroyagi, no problem, this was mostly directed towards the journal discussion of Naomi and SilentJohn.

[Naomi]

Cool that sounds awesome Kain, I am going to really try that...or not try...just hope it doesn't get me into a pile of shit again.

Unfortunately I have to live with other humans in the modern world...oh well, fuckit.

I'll see how it pans out anyways....

[Oblio]

Do or do not, there is no try :laugh:

Are you specifically doing yogic practices, or are these energies arising as a spontaneous reaction from your other magickal work?

If it's spontaneous, then maybe you're conceptualising it "wrong", I mean that rather than approaching it like it's all about your self, and your energies, you're seeing it as the result of some external force that is making certain things occur in you - i.e., you're distancing the actual physical aspects of the system through a filter of mental/psychic concepts...?

[Naomi]

Do or do not, there is no try :laugh:

Are you specifically doing yogic practices, or are these energies arising as a spontaneous reaction from your other magickal work?

If it's spontaneous, then maybe you're conceptualising it "wrong", I mean that rather than approaching it like it's all about your self, and your energies, you're seeing it as the result of some external force that is making certain things occur in you - i.e., you're distancing the actual physical aspects of the system through a filter of mental/psychic concepts...?

No I just made a bad, rash decision and ...I think I take people too seriously. I have several big sisters looking out for me though so they sort of form the emergency backup system when there's a glitch in the matrix. It's all real basic primal power though, at that level, like the motherboard, so it's so extremely strange looking, almost gruesome I suppose, given the right parameters. (Spaceship, aliens, scientists...)

sistahs are doin it for themselves....or something.

But yeah that's the whole shakti current, it's pretty fluid and unified. Like from where I currently stand I notice with some curiosity the sakti are all inside of me so I didn't have to let them in at all into the cleansed universe - they're already conjoined through the girlfriend network. It all comes down to the core of what I know to be absolute reality - or singularity, that there is nothing but mind. Everything else is just useless bullshit, all the divisions and external human judgement is marred by lower vibe pretenses and judgements. So I'm really at the moment hoping to hang onto the concept of a unified, free-flowing and mutable reality expressing itself through the pure machinations of Absolute and Sakti. Anything else is really going to drag me down.

I've cooled down a lot since this morning, and the headache's gone, just a few stomache pangs but im good I think, i re-established earth, water as well as vishnu and siva principles through a couple of my buddies doing the HP thing, we'll see how it goes, gonna hit the twinstar before bedtime.

I may even establish my air and fire pillars but im not sure my system can take it at the moment, might be better I just keep running on two cylinders...