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Amur
08-24-2007, 10:50 PM
Been dealing with alot of different types of spirits. Most which haven't been very good, been very icky and yucky. The more I seem to research into the matter, the more I see patterns that my own head manufactures. When surrendering to the spirits for full possession, something magical happens. They transform completely to a different form and I can control them after that. I literally become more myself in the process of surrendering. So this leads me to the conclusion that the external spirits that I've been experiencing are in fact forms of my own mind that have taken on absurd relations in relation to myself. Surrendering/loving them in fact heals myself from within because they are part of my own mind.

I've got quite a wide range of spirits inside me. Some of which are purely disgusting. Some which are mass-rapers. Some which are mass-murderers. Some which are Eternal. Some are mellow and helping. Even got my friend in here that died last spring(I'm sure that it isn't him truly as he has shown me various times, which again leads back to it being a projection of my own mind).

Anyway, all this makes a question arise. Is anything that I can see, hear, smell, taste and experience a part of my own mind? If I look at something, it is my own mind that makes up the projection of it. If I smell something, it is my own mind that makes up the scent of it. So why wouldn't it be the same with spirits/demons/Gods/whatever.

Been occasionally in a Dream-like state where everything has been a dream of Me. Which means that the whole universe is like a movie acting just for Me. It's quite teh trip really :)

What do you think about this inside/outside head?

Anibis
08-24-2007, 11:25 PM
Absorbing projections seems to be a very yogic way of dealing with entities. I tend to feel the same way as you up to a point as regards the status of these entities as projections, although you should know that it is only your perception of them that is a projection, and they may still represent a real energy which exists beyond your perview. The larger social contruct has projections of its own which all affected parties must adapt to. For example your recognition of a 'rapist' self may in fact simply be the part of your humanity that is sensitive to/aware of that stream of possible action within the larger socius (It's collected Karmic weight, so to speak). The ROLE said self may play in YOUR array of selves might be entirely different than that of the role of 'rapist' in a person who has actually commited this act. In the case of my nastiest selves they usually exist in relation to my Being as sources of pure negativity which spurn me to action, compassion, or awareness of the issue they represent. They are alchemical raw material: Lead which exists to be transformed. They are emotional states rather than literal actions. My murderer-self really exists more to allow me to viscerally contemplate the value of life through active resistance or other transformations. All such selves, even the worst are more like a particular example for how you allign yourself some one human problem: do you accept and transform, attact and eliminate, or succumb to and transmit the extions of that self. Again it is the holistic structure of the whole array of selves that ultimately determines what becommings unfold, what actions will really be actualized... There is so much reality beyond the inscripted images and personification of ideas themselves. Autonamous energies exist in their ability to act whether we aknowledge their existence through some sign, or not. Aknowledging the existence of some energy, forumlating it as a symbol, then dealing with that symbol on our own terms is how in my opinion we go from what is beyond us, to what is in our region of influence, and what gives us a chance to choose (albiet under stress) which actions to cultivate in the world. This move from unsymbolized to symbolized status is analagous to the move from External to Internal relations (if you wish to frame it that way, but there are other perspectives) This is my opinion, at any rate... Does this make sense to you?

-Anibis

Amur
08-25-2007, 04:03 AM
I'm quite sure that if I deal with the entity itself in a correct manner, the problem related to that entity will surely disappear. For example I have astral insects in my anus and sexual place, if I deal with the insects, the correlating physical/mental problem will disappear. Then again, if I deal with the corresponding mental/physical problem, the insects will probably also disappear. Although this analogue I haven't yet tested to it's fullest. Found out that most spirits/demons have embedded in them their own solution to the problem. By digging out this solution, or by emitting the right impulse toward it, it dissolves and becomes a positive attribute in the array of selves. Love, and caring seems to be key words in handling these. Of course one could go to torture also and receive the same effects but it's a bit vain as one can make it also in a peaceful way.

I believe that these array of selves should be in unity with each other, which concretely means that they work together as a whole, instead of having all these internal brawls and what not. Reaching impeccably inwards seems to resolve alot of matters.

Anibis
08-25-2007, 06:58 AM
The world that I found for the state of a harmonious multiplicity of selves is:

Synchrophrenia

Maybe that is useful?
-Anibis

Amur
08-25-2007, 09:42 AM
The world that I found for the state of a harmonious multiplicity of selves is:

Synchrophrenia

Maybe that is useful?
-Anibis

Hey, that's really useful. Thanks!

m1thr0s
08-26-2007, 04:11 AM
Phenomenological Psychology has a lot to say about this sort of thing, though it's been some years since I studied it and don't feel real up to date on the subject anymore. It might be a profitable area of research for you though...

It seems to me you are doing very well all by yourself at observing and channeling things. I always sort of feel like this sort of thing is essentially a filing problem...since we all really have the same phenomena going on but most of us somehow manage to shove things off into their appropriate drawers etc. But this all happens via autopilot so it's not like we are especially brilliant at this or anything. We don't much have to think about it, that's all...

So if suddenly you do have to think about it you've got a bit of a problem going on as most people have no idea what to advise. From an alchemical standpoint everything is ultimately originating from a common well and also resolves back into that same well...we can call it whatever we like...calling it "Nothing" is just about as good as anything else really.

Resolving "thingness" into "nothingness" requires a certain routing strategy and an air of compassionate resolve...detached but not oblivious...not divorced from one's own phenomena so much as resolved to bring it all into balance. How you may accomplish this sort of routing seems to depend a great deal on where you believe the seat of "nothingness" resides and then of course you need some means of laying in the actual command lines...this is all a matter of projection of course so the question is what can you do that will be convincing enough to work.

And that's where it gets a little tricky. I could show you stuff...other people could show you stuff...that work pretty good for us, but is it going to mean jack-shit to you really? If it doesn't...it's not going to work for you.

So the logistics in themselves are not so complicated...this is all basic visualization stuff...no rocket-science involved here really. But coming up with a methodology that really rocks your world...really motivates you to go to work whenever you need to...that seems to be a different story.

And I don't exactly know what the key to this really is. Some believe it's all a waste of time if you don't invent the thing yourself...that you're ultimately just bright enough to find holes in any other system than your own. I hate that idea in some ways, but I begin to think it may well be true.

m1thr0s

Kuroyagi
08-26-2007, 11:15 AM
Resolving "thingness" into "nothingness" requires a certain routing strategy and an air of compassionate resolve...detached but not oblivious...Yes I think it all has to be played through in great dedication and in all seriousness. So also the phrase "All is Mind" is worth looking into; this in itself as a mere phrase means nothing to you, but now if you have already occult experience that goes in that direction, its worth to precede along the trajectory yet still keep that aspect of "Void" in the back (of your mind? lol).

In my experience the all-mind theory has the practical advantage that you can not only map your being and psyche and give profound sense and meaning to the world which will motivate you and make you enthusiastic, but it is also an especially good device for concentrating and densening energies. Now the bad side if you dont get out of it at times could be that you become locked up in your being like many (advanced) magicians (and many suicidal teens) in fact do and thereby will lose the openness and ability to effectively communicate with a wider spectrum of others; the danger is that you may come to consider only certain ppl as (spiritually) advanced or woteva- and so your mutation and growth will stagnate.

"Go full force into it but *with caution*, or maybe: with cunning", is my paradox conclusion to this.

fr.novumorganum
08-30-2007, 01:51 PM
the old saying "it's all in your head; you just don't realize how big your head is" seems relevant here. Anibis, m1, and K have given such solid philosophic advice there's not much I can add to to that, however, I would like note the importance of the idea of assuming the throne/mantle in this kind of work ( i believe this is what m1thr0s meant by making the solution convincing enough). What ever solution you decide to deploy, it must be clear to the 'thingness' involved that you are in charge, you have the absolute right to order your house as you wish.