Help needed with demonic experiment

[BrotherM]

Hi All,

I would like somebody who is experienced in demonic evocation and exhorcism to help me with something. I have experimented with demonic invocation and had good success but I would like to try a new way of getting extremely strong results.

What I need is some nutter who will tie me up (so I can't tear the place up like happened once), wearing only trousers, paint a demonic sigil on my chest and put me in a triangle. While I do the invocation of the demon, you should call to whatever powers to send it to possess me.

When I have invoked it, your job is to keep it there by asking it questions etc, because I found that usually it was the demon who was keen to go home before I was done. Then at a predetermined amount of time (30 minutes should be enough for the first time) you give a pre-agreed command and I will try and come back while you banish it.

What I am hoping to achive is to completely swap places with the demon for a short time. Anybody experienced with invocation knows that, with the demonic energy inside you all you have to do is WILL and you start getting results, I am expecting that by completely swapping places for a short time, this may be enhanced and I may be able to influence the 'currents' more directly and more closely to the source.

Hitman, if you lived in London then I would have just asked you directly. Do you live near New York? I may be there with work later in September?

Anybody else in London?

BrotherM

[m1thr0s]

talk about weird...lol

can't really help with this myself but good luck and all of that.

I don't suppose it really has that much to do with luck though...

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

I can't help either, but could you get someone to video it, I would love to see what happens, even if it gets bloody lol

[MythMath]

Look out, youtube... :laugh:

[BrotherM]

lol, don't mind having a video taken at all, but from experience with this sort of thing all you'll probably see is me going blank, swaying and then collapse in a heap. On the flip side, I may swear in funny tounges, hiss and wreath about... fun to watch I am sure, but not particularly valuable.

I am not sure how weird this type of thing is, I kind of see it as what happens next after you get OK at solo invocations....

Hope somebody out there can help

Many thanks,

Marty

[s1m0n]

lol, don't mind having a video taken at all, but from experience with this sort of thing all you'll probably see is me going blank, swaying and then collapse in a heap. On the flip side, I may swear in funny tounges, hiss and wreath about... fun to watch I am sure, but not particularly valuable.

Sounds like an average weekend out in Wales :laugh:

[hitman777]

Hey, man, like I told you, when you're around here, hit me up, try and give me at least two weeks notice. We'll get this shit going!
The two weeks is for practical concerns. One being a secure working area, two, noise management. I really can't go to my landlady right now and go, "Hey, my buddy from England is coming and he's usually really nice, but we're going to summon up a demon with his body as the material basis, so he might get nutty and loud. No big deal."
What I can do is say "hey, my friend and I are old drinking buddies from way back, I apologize in advance for any noise, but hey, c'mon, ain't I cute? Yeah, you don't care, I know..."
Did you have any particular demon in mind?
Let me know, man, this should could be entertaining!

hitman

[BrotherM]

Cool man, I will be in NY around the 25th but it is midweek. I am going to get out there on a weekend though some time shortly afterwards and will give you notice :).

I am not 100% sure on the demon, I am going to choose between a wealth related one or a don't fuck with me related one. The wealth ones I am not sure of yet but I am looking into it. The don't fuck with me one I am thining of Pazuzu which I know will have no problem possessing a person and also I have worked with it so I know that I can get rid of it. I would much prefer a sumarian than a goetic. Would probably also be very open to a grim verum spirit. Suggestions?

Will keep you posted.

Bro-M

[m1thr0s]

damn...too bad linda blair is unavailable...hehe...

sorry...couldn't resist.

I don't really know how weird or not weird any of this stuff is either to be truthful. If it gets you to where you want to go who gives a shit, eh?

sounds a little risky but I don't recall getting into this stuff for the safety factor anyway...

m1thr0s

[BrotherM]

Risky: about as risky as somebody who has been climbing mountains for 20 years going up a 7,000er I think. Always some risk, but if you know how, it is controlled. besides, I am at a point where potential downsides don't bother me

[Fio Praeter Humanus]

If you want to come down to the hot south we can go out in the swamps and do it. But I get to stub cigarettes out on you during the possession...:cool:

[fr.novumorganum]

shit man i'll drive up from miami for that meeting...and i'll bring rum and cigars:p

[s1m0n]

shit man i'll drive up from miami for that meeting...and i'' bring rum and cigars:p

This is starting to sound like it could turn into an annual event! :p

[BrotherM]

LOL, Nero, I always told you smoking would kill ya :) SO if I want to do this I gotta get my ass over to the US? I'll see if I can get there on a weekend at some point. Novum, I'd like some rum, probably after to take the taste of green bile and slime away ;)

[FatAl]

I'm not precisely ontrack with you... you wish to experience a full demonic possession under a 'controlled' environment? Are you positive that such an occurence hasn't already manifested itself? I assume that you've compiled a document that lists various baselines, etc? Will you partner be under any particular dangers (obssesive overload, panic/fear reactions and the like)? You could arrange a passive partner scenario that allows for your help to leave you at a specified time in a bound condition with a recording setup on to return at a specified time to end the session. I guess my concerns are just what occurs to the senses and paranormal senses of the demonic recipient during the experiment and how those senses could be used via the subject to influence the partner...
I've unwittingly done a number of exercises involving the 'possession' of a number of shamanic allies and spirits in my small way and have found that the results can be startling, unconcious and potentially lifethreatening....and these were with non-demonic forces/spirits. On two of the three occasions it was necessary to involve physical force to 'jar' the cohabitant loose. It was also of interest that with one of the entities involved suffered in some unknown way from the possession.
I apologize if this appears to be a moralizing banter but, pardon me, wouldn't something abit less drastic be called for first? (I may have wrongly assumed that this was unchartered territory for you). One of the effects to one possession was a lingering extension of auric sensing but this was also accompanied by neural trauma. I hate migraines. By your leave.

[BrotherM]

(I may have wrongly assumed that this was unchartered territory for you).

Yes you did, but thanks for your concern. I know how people on forums tend to worry, but please don't in this case.

BrotherM

Hitman, what do you reckon of Ziku?

[hitman777]

Yes you did, but thanks for your concern. I know how people on forums tend to worry, but please don't in this case.

BrotherM

Hitman, what do you reckon of Ziku?

Probably one of the safer ones, it would be interesting, and hopefully financially lucrative.
I think that that's a good idea. And not as likely to get out of control, although it still very well could. :laugh: Nec spirits aren't always known for their levelheadedness.

[BrotherM]

Sounds good, I'll start getting thing set up here and will try and plan a trip on the weekend. All going well, I could be there later this month. If it doesn't happen, I'll have to try a bit later.

Don't mind if it gets out of control, that's half the fun!

Bro-M

[Frater SI]

This should be a really cool experiment ! .. Any Magician worth his salt should be able to keep things under "control".. but I use the word loosely as I don't think many practitioners have witnessed full blown possession. It can be pretty shocking to deal with, I had a friend of mine get taken control of during a goetic evocation. I really battled to get things under control he did not get through my circle but he pretty much thrashed the whole place up ...Its those kinds of scenarios that books cant teach you.. I think if the right precautions and prep is done everything "should" go well .. Bro Are you planning on doing an evocation first to outline your plans with the Entity beforehand?

[BrotherM]

hey Frater SI,

Probably won't do an evocation first, Invocation, in the beginning is very much like negotiating the rules of the road and if I do that correctly, the demon will know my desires and I will know its. People who haven't done this sort of thing don't realise how respectful a lot of the entities are in this process, but, like Hitman said, a fine line with the Nec ones :D. I think being tied up / restrined is important because the spirits do get very active given their new found environment - kind of like people the first time they learn to Astral travel and they run around destroying shit for fun - you can't really blame them.

When you are back we should hook up and have a chat bro.

BrotherM

[Izabael]

This sounds like fun! We used to do crazy stuff like this when we first got married--except pamph wanted to invoke all 72 demons into me at once since he said I was "izabael" and could handle it...uh yeah. lol. now I remember why we don't do things like that anymore....=(

I'm sure we could supervise something like this no problem if you get to Los Angeles. We've done stranger and more intimate things with strangers for a lot less reason. I myself say we have to notch it up though. Tie you up overnight with the demon(s.) Maybe leave you with pens and paper and see what you come up with while possessed......

[MythMath]

Do they make NERF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERF) pens...? :p