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DocHolliday
08-03-2006, 01:02 AM
(Crossposted from the Werelist)

In another thread, Siverwolf asked me elucidate a concept that I have mentioned a few times recently: predatory spirituality. This term has been used frequently by the author and magus, Michael Ford, who has been the main proponent of Luciferian witchcraft. (However, my personal opinion is that predatory spirituality is not something limited to Luciferian witchcraft, but may be universally applied to any so-called "dark" path).

In general, magical and psycho-spiritual paths which are in some way associated with either the concepts of Chaos Magic Theory or the Left-Hand Path are "dark" in nature. That is, they possess a high concentration of iconography which is associated with that which we could term "negative:" funerary imagery, death, lust, etc. One also finds that while such paths tend to be atheistic and/or deistic in nature, there is a prevalence of spiritual beings that are adversarial or cthonic in nature. Examples would be Ahriman, Lilith, Azazel, Tiamat, even the fictional Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos (Cthulhu, Yog-Sothoth, etc).

Since association with these concepts inevitably causes one to intimately engage with psychic forces generally repressed by the greater society, many primitive atavisms emerge. The vampire, the werewolf, and the dragon are creatures which may be viewed as the synthesis between the rising of primitive atavisms and the willful direction of "darker" psychic forces. Thus, you find the use of such creatures as spiritual archetypes. The Order of the Vampyre, within the Temple of Set is one such group. So is Ordo Sekhemu (I have recently become a probationer in this group, and hope to reach dedicant status within the next two months).

Lycanthropy, as viewed in the anthropological and classical sense, is a practice which has been associated (by Christianity) with the adorationa and service of Satan. Many folk cultures, ranging from Meso-America to Africa, to Europe, to Asia have associated the lycanthropic transformation with the practice of malefic witchcraft. Three examples I may provide are the Skinwalkers of North America, the Bruxo of Brazil and Portugal, and the Buda of East Africa. In each of these cases, the lycanthropic practicioner sheds their body for that of some predatory animal, through the use of magic (the first two cases are wolves, the third case is the hyena) and prey upon the vital essence of others. This is as powerful an avatar as the vampire, and as such has grown to have a place in the contemporary dark arts.

Predatory spirituality, then, is the rational harnessing of such avatars. It is not, however, juvenile acts of destruction and random mayhem. Because of the supposed risks inherent in deep exploration of such atavisms and psychic forces, practicioners tend to be quite rational and deliberate in their actions. Instead of pointless depredation, those who follow some form of predatory spirituality harness the energy of such avatars to further their autotheistic goals. However, this does not mean one who uses lycanthropy or vampirisim as a magical tool will not bring them to bear as a weapon if needed. One's opposition and enemies are confronted and "devoured." However, I do not feel that this is a common occurence. Moreso, one finds these tools used when combating their own daemons and things which would hinder them form attaining their goals. As one devours their own weaknesses or strengthens these spiritual avatars, one increases the force of their own will and bolsters their psychic fortitude to the degree where (it is hoped and believed) the Self may survive bodily death without dissolution (either into oblivion, or the cosmic whatever you wish to call it), but remain individuated and immortal.

1000ShadesofGrey
08-04-2006, 10:09 PM
(Crossposted from the Werelist)
Lycanthropy, as viewed in the anthropological and classical sense, is a practice which has been associated (by Christianity) with the adorationa and service of Satan. Many folk cultures, ranging from Meso-America to Africa, to Europe, to Asia have associated the lycanthropic transformation with the practice of malefic witchcraft. Three examples I may provide are the Skinwalkers of North America, the Bruxo of Brazil and Portugal, and the Buda of East Africa. In each of these cases, the lycanthropic practicioner sheds their body for that of some predatory animal, through the use of magic (the first two cases are wolves, the third case is the hyena) and prey upon the vital essence of others. This is as powerful an avatar as the vampire, and as such has grown to have a place in the contemporary dark arts.

Interesting...I've heard stories of Bruxos removing lycantropy from others. And oddly enough in the cases of lycantrophy as a curse in the old folk lore people usually changed into horses, not being able to return to their normal self unless after eaten 7 hearts, whatever those hearts where, even from insects.

Amur
08-11-2006, 04:56 AM
Surprisingly devouring the ghosts which haunt me makes me feel very much better both spiritually/mentally and probably physically in the end also. Actually the more animal-like I become the better it feels. Almost like some old instincts coming back to life. The weird thing was that my pranic-stomach got quite full and I started to feel better after a long time.

Alisa
09-18-2006, 04:51 AM
I have enjoyed reading this thread and now realize that I have experienced predatorial spirituality. I have captured spirit photos of wolves and of dog/men, had dreams of them, and visions of them. I am obviously connected to them in some way.

One morning I woke with the words repeating, “It’s not about being, it’s about becoming…” Then just as I came fully awake, I heard in my head, “Alisa, I can show you”. I had just dreamed that my husband had asked me if I wanted to become a werewolf. I had said, “But don’t you have to already be one?” And he said that the seeds are there they just must be cultivated. I felt scared and unable to decide whether I could commit to such a thing, or even if I wanted it.

The following morning I woke feeling strangely full. As the day progressed I became sick and then sicker, every bit of food evacuating from my body. I couldn’t even have a sip of water. I figured I must have food poisoning. I felt such pain that I prayed for an answer and received, “deep cleansing”. Uh, yeah. :rolleyes: Then I prayed for relief and was thankfully able to fall asleep. I woke in the morning feeling a bit battered, but on the mend. Reflecting back on it I wondered if this was part of some predatorial spiritual experience that had begun the night before.

As I keep a journal of my dreams and experiences, I noted that one month earlier I had awakened to these words repeating in my mind: rogue spirit, metamorphosis and transmogrification.

And, not long ago I woke vaguely remembering images in the night that insinuated I was a werewolf and the word “hirsute” was repeating in my mind. I had to look up the definition which I found means covered with hair. :eek:

P.S. Wow it’s hard to cough up like this on a forum. But it’s gotta be good for strengthening the soul.

Copuldaemon
12-30-2006, 02:22 AM
I like the opening reply of Amur because I agree. While this is a rather decent post in explaining such a concept that makes for enjoyable fraternizing, I feel that one can take on such avatars or masks to help bring out that which is supposedly conscious with in you like watching porn to get help bring a huger climax during the oncoming jerk session, still if you don't have something like that in you, I think you'd do more harm than good exploring such things because although ferocity is in all of us, if you're mild mannered going on a ride like that, you'd either rip yourself apart or someone else or whatever you do, you won't know how to face it because it's too much where as if you're a predator and you know it, taking in such icons are fun-I guess.

frater luciferi
01-29-2007, 08:02 AM
wolvers are wolves, you cannot deny that nature.

Naomi
01-29-2007, 01:20 PM
I have enjoyed reading this thread and now realize that I have experienced predatorial spirituality. I have captured spirit photos of wolves and of dog/men, had dreams of them, and visions of them. I am obviously connected to them in some way.

One morning I woke with the words repeating, “It’s not about being, it’s about becoming…” Then just as I came fully awake, I heard in my head, “Alisa, I can show you”. I had just dreamed that my husband had asked me if I wanted to become a werewolf. I had said, “But don’t you have to already be one?” And he said that the seeds are there they just must be cultivated. I felt scared and unable to decide whether I could commit to such a thing, or even if I wanted it.

The following morning I woke feeling strangely full. As the day progressed I became sick and then sicker, every bit of food evacuating from my body. I couldn’t even have a sip of water. I figured I must have food poisoning. I felt such pain that I prayed for an answer and received, “deep cleansing”. Uh, yeah. :rolleyes: Then I prayed for relief and was thankfully able to fall asleep. I woke in the morning feeling a bit battered, but on the mend. Reflecting back on it I wondered if this was part of some predatorial spiritual experience that had begun the night before.

As I keep a journal of my dreams and experiences, I noted that one month earlier I had awakened to these words repeating in my mind: rogue spirit, metamorphosis and transmogrification.

And, not long ago I woke vaguely remembering images in the night that insinuated I was a werewolf and the word “hirsute” was repeating in my mind. I had to look up the definition which I found means covered with hair. :eek:

P.S. Wow it’s hard to cough up like this on a forum. But it’s gotta be good for strengthening the soul.

Wow! That is an amazing story! Here, have some magic beans for having the courage to tell it. :juggle:

Something like this happened five years ago to me also, and it's awful but the 'deep cleansing' seems to be a key element among this and other stories I have heard. :laugh:

I was just beginning my work with Iktomi indepthly, though I had felt he had his eyes on me for sometime...spiders would just appear everywhere. I don't see them so much anymore, I've returned to Coyote's side again, but occasionally they seem to pop up in funny places. A few weeks ago I was watching Silent Hill during an especially creepy part and a brown recluse slowly crawled across the dark floor in the cold grey light of the television.

During the early times I was really trying to understand the spider, first I began having spider dreams. Then a few weeks later I would have little black and white striped jumping spiders crawling allover my door whenever I came home...they were beautiful. Soon after that I began stumbling upon websites on the net detailing Iktomi. Then I had my 'sick' day where you get the food poisoning feeling all day... I was a vegetarian. After that, there was a little voice at the back of my head that would say "Now shave your head! Come on! Do it!" (lol) So I did and then I began recieving insights and techniques; I suppose they are connected with the spider.

You should know Iktomi is not a popular deity to the Lakota, he's powerful, crafty and troublesome, and his younger brother is Iya, the lord of destruction. They are actually two of the oldest deities as the son of Inyan (a SO this ritual of initiation that you describe is very intriguing to me...in the old old days one would simply join a temple and the ritual of initiation would be explained and administered to you. Yet as we all know, real priests and priestesses of deities are rare even for the most popular gods and the most crowded cities. Perhaps these forgotten deities have ways of perpetuating themselves.

Lord Dragool on the unmentionable forums also had a profound experience with a wolf-like "elder god" as he described it. It was quite an interesting tale.

While it may all be in our subconscious it is still, quite interesting, nonetheless.

Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iktomi
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iktomi)

Kath
05-15-2007, 08:48 AM
(Crossposted from the Werelist)
In general, magical and psycho-spiritual paths which are in some way associated with either the concepts of Chaos Magic Theory or the Left-Hand Path are "dark" in nature. That is, they possess a high concentration of iconography which is associated with that which we could term "negative:" funerary imagery, death, lust, etc. One also finds that while such paths tend to be atheistic and/or deistic in nature, there is a prevalence of spiritual beings that are adversarial or cthonic in nature. Examples would be Ahriman, Lilith, Azazel, Tiamat, even the fictional Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos (Cthulhu, Yog-Sothoth, etc).
I find this particular paragraph somewhat overstated. Overall I agree with the post and find it an interesting essay, but I'd just point out that the 'dark' in 'dark spirituality' does not reffer to a 'maleficient' slant. And the lack of ethics in CMT is not anti-ethical, just ethics-less, much like a rock, you can whack someone over the head, or build a building with it. And left hand path, originally, is a path of enlightenment (in vamacara) apposing not ethics, but asceticism.

I would say that for many who practice and/or like such paths do 'tend' to have a greater population of 'maleficient' or 'predatory' minded individuals... But I would submit that this is because those paths do nothing to actively discourage this (as apposed to actively promoting it).

Anyway, i'm splitting hairs, nice essay :)

Kath

fr.novumorganum
05-15-2007, 01:00 PM
nice addition, Kath; I agree.