There's a Hole in My Universe

[Ci Celli Ddu]

The Huge Hole (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070823_huge_hole.html)

[Radiant Star]

Fascinating find and got totally hooked by the quizzes etc on that site too :D

I want to know if the hole is that big, why didn't they discover it before?

[Ci Celli Ddu]

The diagram also seems to indicate that the universe is trumpet-shaped, unless I'm mistaken. This, apparently, is called the Picard Topology (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4879), named after the Star Trek captain.

The Universe just keeps getting wierder.

[Apopheros]

This is interesting. I wonder if it's growing size or not. It could be a cloak device for a populated part of the universe.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

It also makes me think about universal symbolism, and by that I mean symbols used by advanced species across the universe. Obviously the atom would be one, the proton another, but now we also have the horn (makes me think of the Horn of Plenty). How long until Occultists start using these symbols?

[MythMath]

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[m1thr0s]

hard not to notice this:

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This is interesting. I wonder if it's growing size or not. It could be a cloak device for a populated part of the universe.whatever it is it's huge...kinda hard to just call it a hole...if that was a hole in your roof you'd have no freaking roof left...

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Another article on the Picard Topology here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/27/universe_picard_topology/).

If this is the true shape of the universe, it means space is finite. The narrow tube section is infinitely long, but so narrow its volume is finite. [Yes, we have a headache too]. However, the bell section flares outward only so far. Theoretically, you could fly out of the universe on one side of the bell and arrive back on the other.
It also means that scientists need to chuck out a couple of assumptions, like the "cosmological principle". This is the idea the universe is roughly the same everywhere. In the narrow end of a Picard shaped universe, things would start to look very odd indeed, with only two, very small, dimensions.
This is just wierd, and I'm frankly surprised that I only get to here about it three years later.

Finite space. Trumpet shaped. Two dimensiomal in parts. And it has a bloody great hole in it. Up until now the hardest thing I found to contemplate was (if I can use a past tense here) before the Big Bang. Obviously I'd assumed that the explosion would extend in every direction. Beyond the extent of matter I imagined there would be empty space, not a barrier (if I can call it that) that would return me to another side (but the same end) of the Universe.

This reminds me of a Lovecraftian story entitled Settler's Wall by Robert A. W. Lowndes (http://cthulhufiles.com/biblio/cthabib_lowndes.htm):

An example of non-Euclidean geometry, the wall has only one side- crossing it always returns you to where you started from. All mind blowing. Except that the WMAP team themselves say that their findings show that the Universe is flat (http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101shape.html), or at least they were the last time they updated the website. Now I'm really confused.

The diagram of the hole (http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=070823_huge_hole_02.jpg&cap=Illustration+of+the+effect+of+matter+on+the+co smic+microwave+background+%28CMB%29.+On+the+right, +the+CMB+is+released+shortly+after+the+Big+Bang,+w ith+tiny+ripples+in+temperature+due+to+fluctuation s+in+the+early+universe.+As+the+radiation+traverse s+the+universe,+it+experiences+slight+perturbation s.+In+the+direction+of+the+giant+newly-discovered+void,+the+WMAP+satellite+%28top+left%29 +sees+a+cold+spot,+while+the+VLA+%28bottom+left%29 +sees+fewer+radio-emitting+galaxies.+CREDIT%3A+Bill+Saxton,+NRAO/AUI/NSF,+NASA) has also got me scratching my head. It shows a dark hole in the the side of or within what appears to be a cone, and yet the blue triskel shape (see attachment) is actually a photo of the hole.

[m1thr0s]

Flat? That is confusing...

Of course, experts are hard-pressed to explain the appearance of a giant spring-loaded bar on one end of the universe, balanced by what appears to be a humungus piece of cheese on the other...:o_O:

We might want to think about bailing out of this contraption...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

Poke it with a stick... spring the bar... take the cheese.... Feed some of it to a a rodent of some sort and see if it dies. If it don't.... Free cheese!
-A-

[m1thr0s]

I figured people might be skeptical...
here's an artist's rendition based on millions of hubble photos pieced together by super-computers...:rolleyes:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/unimousetrap.gif

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Clearly the cheesiest graphic you've ever posted... :no:

[m1thr0s]

well...there is this, although it's much more hypothetical...

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apparently their use of term *flat* must be very different than the accustomed norm...I can't really say I understand what the hell they are talking about so far...

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

What with the Hole I'm guessing that it's Swiss cheese. Does that mean the Swiss are God's true Chosen People?

[m1thr0s]

hmmm...I don't know...they make pretty good cough drops though...

the whole problem with science these days is that it's become completely non-intuitive on almost all levels. Just when you've finally got your brain wrapped around one weird idea they come along and say *oops*...we were looking through the wrong end of the telescope...

maybe the universe has no shape at all until somebody gives it one...:dunno:

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

And they call themselves scientists. Pah! It's all mumbo jumbo.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

The ToL on it's side kinda resembles Picard Topology

[Radiant Star]

All mind blowing. Except that the WMAP team themselves say that their findings show that the Universe is flat (http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101shape.html), or at least they were the last time they updated the website. Now I'm really confused.
Yeah well they 'knew' that the earth was flat once too, so I give that a vote of no confidence.

[Amur]

That hole must be my traumatic part of Self that has dissociated from Myself. *grin* All Fractalic. Yes....