World War Three and the Rhetoric of Armageddon

[Anibis]

I picked up that some of the Bush Admin folks are calling the current Isreal/Lebanon conflict "World War Three". While I am of the mind that these big titles are more of an ideological play, and part of the propaganda machine, I am interested in why they are pulling a term like this out now. It was the big shadow hanging over everyone's head during the Cold War, and now it is supposedly happening in the middle east. What kind of egregore is "WWIII"? Also, what of the fundamentalist's apocalyptic fantasy? Do you think this stuff ties in together? Just curious.
-Ibisis-

[m1thr0s]

It's probably actually a fairly accurate portrayal of the severity of the situation in the middle east and spreading across asia as well. The US is killing folks hand over fist and has been doing so for decades. They don't like it. They will do whatever they can do to put a stop to it.

So would we.

m1thr0s

[SAINT]

The great social construction has begun. The prediction of a WW3 falls less upon scripture, and more upon creation and a tool for a means. Societies are easily caught up in the moment, and once the buzz word "WWW3" starts going around it would probably help the military to take ownership of teh situation, and perhaps worldwide conflicts would come under a single rule/ ruler.

Prophecy is complete, through the overt and covert manipulation of the people.

It only takes a few generations to change views, and the wheels are in motion.

[m1thr0s]

Let's hope for a surprize ending...I hate reading books I already know the end of...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

Let's hope for a surprize ending...I hate reading books I already know the end of...

m1thr0s

Indeed.
-Ibisis-

[m1thr0s]

I think Saint is unfortunately exactly on taget regarding the brainwashing premise. The US (regime) would like there to be a WWIII at this point since militarily it's got a major stick up it's *ss regarding any other way to confront issues. First Strike initiatives and all this other Nazified crap is about all it can come up with and to pull that off politically you need to convince a lot of people that there is no other choice. Of course there are other choices...they're just too damn ignorant to negotiate them...

We need a whole new kind of world leadership that these baboons simply are not capable of...yet we cannot as yet dislodge them. Everything depends on passive-resistant human networking at this point. No grand slam political movements will work. People networking with other people in essential "chaos" clusters is the only thing I can imagine capable of turning things around, since out of this, the *unexpected* is actually possible...

m1thr0s

[Amur]

It's probably actually a fairly accurate portrayal of the severity of the situation in the middle east and spreading across asia as well. The US is killing folks hand over fist and has been doing so for decades. They don't like it. They will do whatever they can do to put a stop to it.

So would we.

m1thr0s

Thank you for the last words. It shows where Abrahadabra stands upon in my own humble opinion. This is starting to feel like home in a sense. Thanks again to the ppl for being here.

Taking a strategical look upon the upcoming oil conflict, it is noticed that if/when the shit hits the fan, the arabs will turn down their oil bartering, except for perhaps weaponry, and this will in turn get an escalating response from other places. Perhaps even with some other culture uniting with the arabs to get oil to get their society to continue to run. Most societies nowadays are built upon the fact that they need gasoline. There's so many groups and cultures messed up into this war business, that it is ridiculous. A spiritual war on a material ground. As, We will be victorious as We possess something which is adamantine. Though if this becomes a culmination of various disasters, very difficult times lie ahead. Yellowstone might go quite fierish yellow/red heh. :eek:

If I am correct, I've worked for 3 years to prevent this war, but unfortunately I'm just a small person in a great trembling. Perhaps the effort should increase. Atleast one can carry out ones own responsibility in everything. Urgh. Sometimes I begin to hear yankee themes in the background when I write something. Quite baffling to be honest. If it is true that I am the embodiment of something, then it means that the suffering I got from the time of Awakening till now will be spilt upon the world, and if it is spilt upon the world, it means that survival is the game.

[Anibis]

The great social construction has begun. The prediction of a WW3 falls less upon scripture, and more upon creation and a tool for a means. Societies are easily caught up in the moment, and once the buzz word "WWW3" starts going around it would probably help the military to take ownership of teh situation, and perhaps worldwide conflicts would come under a single rule/ ruler.


Not to mention the precedent of an official 'third' world war, something which creates a triangulation of this sort of propaganda. It's shocking how bold they are in this crap, but then again not suprizing. Anyone else know anything about this 'new american century' stuff they have on the go? They actually think they are going to take over as a single world government. So creepy. Well, I'm with you M1thr0s, here's for an unexpected turn of events!
-Ibisis-

P.S. there's a connection somewhere in all of this to a guy named Leo Strauss. I don't know all of it, except that he is a major hidden influence on the intellectual machinations behind the Bush administration. Plato's 'noble lie' sort of tactics where the elite 'guardians' of a society propagate mythologies in order to further their projects... One of the Professors at my School is a Marxist fellow who works on Strauss and the Magus tradition, interestingly enough... I sometimes wonder why these guys in the pentagon get called 'Hawks'...

[m1thr0s]

I try not to romanticize magick in any way...too many people do that from my perspective...but the truth of the matter is that so-called *transhumanism* is still a viable player in the scheme of things. And it doesn't necessarily have to amount to becoming Godhead itself or anything like that...but I do believe that certain work we perform on ouselves has the potential to redefine reality itself. It opens up new vistas...new possibilities in terms of energy, in terms of knowledge and power, in terms of a very reason for existence itself...

So tie up your camel...but cut loose your Allah in my view...

m1thr0s

[Amur]

Talkers talk and doers do. Perhaps I should talk less and do more. So in a sense, working through the inner part could turn the whole outer part to something alltogether different. There's been alot of shifts to one place or another. Though the best ones have always come from working through something inside.

When the Sun goes down, the Stars are seen...

[Rin Daemoko]

If you look at the history of human kind, we have been gradually moving toward living in larger and larger communities. The nations of the modern era are generally larger than what we had one or two millenia ago. It's typically through war that smaller countries are subsumed into larger ones.

I think this move toward larger and larger communities is a natural progression. A "WWIII" is innevitable, though it is doubtful that it will be a militaristic war. The military will be part of it, but it is/will be mostly an economic and cultural war. A war of money, property, and ideas rather than weapons, territory, and blood. </opinion>

[fr.novumorganum]

Maybe I'm just too pedestrian, but the WW III terminology mainly comes from the Bush camp and their propaganda arm at FOX news.

The Bush regime only has two last bases of popular support: radical fudemental christians and wall street/ceo types.

The wall street/ceo crowd continues to benifit from the increasing cost of energy commodities. The WW III in the middle east rhetoric serves to drive up the speculation in oil/gas/energy markets.

The fundie crowd is packed with millinialists/dominion types, who actually believe the end times are upon us and Jesus is about to walk the land again to unleash the vengance of God upon all us unholy types. Bush may be one of these, but at the very least the propaganda machine wants these xstains to believe he is making this nation ready to serve as Jesus' army.

[m1thr0s]

The Bush regime only has two last bases of popular support: radical fudemental christians and wall street/ceo types....which unfortunately accounts for a vast number of people and ludicrous amounts of cash...

not hopeless...just exceedingly problematic...

m1thr0s