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blade4hire
09-26-2007, 09:09 PM
Have you guy's seen this new necronomicon tarot deck? (by donald tyson)
The book that it came with, recomends using Caution during readings with this deck. (divination with the dead) as they call it.
It dosent seem much different that any other tarot deck, other that it's images are very dark and grim, but other than letting it's dark imagery taint the meanings of the cards, where would Caution come into play.
I am aware of the danger of using the necronomicon itself- but how about tarot reading? (Which Im still learning)
whats your opinion?
Nuhad418
09-27-2007, 07:32 AM
Greetings blade4hire,
I am always skeptical when a book tells me of the dangers of this method of divination or that method. It seems like either: The person designing or peddling the deck is psychologically "sensitive" (read into that what you will) OR that its a means of making it sound and oh so spooky. My advice would be to learn the meanings of a "mainstream" deck before using the specialty decks. There are many reasons for this and I'm sure you can figure them out. That said I plan on buying the Nec deck simply because...well....good gods man how can you not!?
NH418
fr.novumorganum
09-27-2007, 09:50 AM
i don't know about caution when doing readings, although you may want to use caution before pathworking the cards.
Anibis
09-27-2007, 02:32 PM
Well maybe it's just liable to induce a paranoid sort of mood, which I supose one ought to be wary of... then again, there nothing worse to say to a paranoid person than 'Be VERY VERY careful.' All divination IMO deserves caution, but that's your common sense...
To much caution is something to be cautious about too, methinks...
-Anibis
m1thr0s
09-29-2007, 12:47 AM
ever see any of those ads that say: if you're squeamish or easily frightened don't click this link!?
it's the oldest trick in the book...people are stimulus junkies and they love to be scared...even little kids are addicted to it...that's what carnival rides are all about etc...
the really scary shit in this world doesn't announce itself like that...can you imagine the president of the united states saying ok...now I'm going to pull a really scary fucking political move in iraq that should (if it succeeds) just about bury america's good name once and for all?
So off they go to fight a trumped up war based on purely ulterior motives, without any solid provocation or the means to fight it *clean*, nor any reasonable plan of any kind as to how the *conflict* might ever be resolved...military strategists were appalled but theirs is not to question why...they are owned and so they go and do whatever they are told (not at all the kind of military americans originally bought into)...
both houses of congress line up in unison calling it right and fair and courageous!
americans overwhelmingly applaud their brilliant leadership's *initiative*...
and that's fucking scary...
but what the hell do I know...I'm just a politically incorrect *occultist*...
Lovecraft was playing to a well defined literary market...a market as old as Sin itself. He had a skill, he found a niche and exploited the crap out of it...end of story. It's only too bad he didn't live long enough to cash in on it properly...that cat would be rolling in dough today boy...one of the archetypal best ghost-story authors ever published.
Ancient ghoulies...what a hoot...pure plagiarism of course, but hey...it's fucking iraq for xst sake...who cares...
m1thr0s
Nalyd Khezr Bey
10-02-2007, 06:38 PM
...I plan on buying the Nec deck simply because...well....good gods man how can you not!?Well I wouldn't buy it simply because as a fan of both Lovecraft and Lovecraftian inspired magick I don't find it all that impressive personally for similar reasons that I was not impressed by a recent book (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=26316&postcount=13) that I wasted my money on that dealt with Lovecraftian magick (or lack of magick and inspiration). Just my opinion though.
As for the "using caution" gimmick, well I sort of agree with Anibis that you should probably use "caution" when doing any divination, or anything to do with the occult arts for that matter, if you don't know what the hell you're doing to begin with. As for what you should be "cautious" of I leave up to your imagination.
Of course, as m1thr0s has already suggested, this is just a way to cash in on the revival of interest in Lovecraft and Tarot decks as well. There seems to be a published Tarot deck for everything. There is even an existing Lovecraft Tarot (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/lovecraft/) which I personally think looks better than this new one and even uses an image of Crowley as one of the characters but I still think it doesn't quite do justice to Lovecraft's visions. Giger's Baphomet Tarot (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/giger-baphomet/)? Maybe.
Nuhad418
10-03-2007, 08:21 AM
Well I wouldn't buy it simply because as a fan of both Lovecraft and Lovecraftian inspired magick I don't find it all that impressive personally for similar reasons that I was not impressed by a recent book (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=26316&postcount=13) that I wasted my money on that dealt with Lovecraftian magick (or lack of magick and inspiration). Just my opinion though.
Well of course there is that! :laugh: However, I'm a big believer in buy now regret later. I also tend to purchase things under the assumption that some day I'll need them for researching a paper or a book. I did that with the Equinox. Shelled out hundreds of dollars as I was sure I was going to need it for my Masters thesis. Turns out I just like to buy stuff! Realistically though I find it interesting to view how people perceive and then recreate their shadow. If Tyson had a hand in the art and not just lening his name to the project then it will speak volumes. Rather than looking at it as a tarot deck or for pathworking I look at it from a more analytical perspective.
Nalyd Khezr Bey
10-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Understood. I like buying stuff too.:p
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