Sacred Solfeggio Frequencies [Archive]

m1thr0s

10-29-2007, 02:03 AM

Ok...I really want to understand all of this MM, so bear with me on a few points of confusion...I'm not totally stupid so if I'm not getting it , probably a lot of others aren't either...

first...what the hell are *The 18 'sacred solfeggio' frequencies (in Hz)* exactly? Is that just something you are calling this arrangement or does this already exists elsewhere?

second...you said:
These 2 frequency groups can each be represented by their respective 'seed frequencies'...

Mirror One: 174, 258, 369

Mirror Two: 123, 456, 789

By permutating these seeds, the complete sets (of 18 tones per Mirror) can be constructed......but this doesn't seem to connect with what you have illustrated below. Is this a typo? should it have read "Mirror One: 147, 258, 369"? Is Mirror 1 supposed to correspond to Figure B below?

third...I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say that Figure B is chronological but I did discover this upon inspection. In Figure A=Figure C the chronology is following the Heaven Descending pattern (as we might expect):

1 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif
2 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif
3 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif
4 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif
5 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif
6 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif
7 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif
8 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif
9 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif

In FigureB=FigureD we do see an literal binary chronology following the Heaven Ascending pattern (note the gender lines simply trade positions):

9 (9) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif
8 (6) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif
7 (3) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif
6 (8) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif
5 (5) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif
4 (2) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif
3 (7) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif
2 (4) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif
1 (1) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif

so they are technically both numerically chronological...is this what you were intending to allude to or something else?

edit: in any event this is a sweet little gem MM...qualifies on all counts as a legitimate magickal LoShu sigil...great work!

m1thr0s

MythMath

10-29-2007, 02:46 AM

Cool, I got a nibble...

First, these 'solfeggio' frequencies were originally 'revealed' to me
by a stranger's voice in a phone conversation a few years ago...

That stranger subsequently became a client, friend and collaborator...

Any other source that I've found and checked claims
to have only 9 of what is obviously a set of 18 tones...

In the initial recording sessions, these tones were produced by a custom-made
set of tuning forks, but were soon replaced with digitally-generated sinewaves...

This allowed more consistency and overall control of the various parameters...

Working with the sinewaves led to the hunch about using an oscilloscope to
visually monitor what had been up to that point only an aural experience...

Second, yes it was a typo, and I corrected it to read 147...

m1thr0s

10-29-2007, 02:53 AM

ok...thanks for the backgrounding. And now I think the really key question surrounds your use of the term "chronological" since it appears that they are in fact both binary chronologies...did you already know this or is this also some sort of "accident"?

or perhaps some third variable I am not as intimately aware of...like you are approaching all of this from a completely different angle perhaps...

m1

MythMath

10-29-2007, 02:58 AM

Third, sorry it's a little muddled,
but Mirror One is Fig. B and Mirror Two is Fig. A...

It's interesting that you found that they both run chronologically,
and that it's reflected in the identical sigil form...

Are there two more chronological 'Mirrors' then...?

Via the Four Pillars...?

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PS - I dig the THC font...!

m1thr0s

10-29-2007, 03:02 AM

yes...that's right...all you really have to do is reverse directions in your count and start from 9 - 1 and the other two should manifest...

this is some really great stuff MM...thanks for sharing this work here...

note: if it will help I can lay out the four arrangements in the form I have listed above... I would need maybe 30 minutes to set up the yins...I think it's already covered in some other chart someplace but still it might ring better laid out this way.

m1

MythMath

10-29-2007, 03:07 AM

Thanks again for the insights...

How could one implement any of this, btw...?

m1thr0s

10-29-2007, 03:29 AM

well it's a beautiful sigil to begin with so let's consider that as important since it is...it has a very "lunar" feel to it from my perspective and it's unicursal so you can't really lose...just about anything you do with this thing is gonna dance...

from a scrying standpoint you'd want to look to sound properties that seemed to follow its internal logic in one way or another...and you'd want to mix and match it's polarities as well to find something that really suits you the best and can achieve that whole balancing of opposites thing...

there's a lot of ways to go...it's all experimental stuff really but you dive into it and throw whatever you've got at it and it comes back at you with new reflections...new angles and so on...you're doin' this stuff already really...though perhaps still a little more on the mental plane...

scrywork isn't really so especially complex conceptually...it sort of is and isn't, but the technical aspects aren't really so difficult to grasp...it's more a matter of finding the *permission* internally to invest in it psychologically...you've already got all the analytical skills anybody would ever really want or need so far as I can tell...

so you know...poke around...there's talismanic stuff and scrying stuff and untried techno-magickal stuff and also more classical things...designing rituals and so on...a lot depends of what you are most comfortable with approaching. The thing with any powerful sigil is that you are approaching an intelligence that is only known to you by its signature initially. The name of the game is ascertaining that intelligence and also putting it to work for you in ways that may apply.

I mean look...you could start by just getting really stoned and gawk at the damn thing until one of you blinks, you know? Things do get more technically sophisticated than this but one should not discredit the basics either...

I feel like I may have seen this thing someplace before but I couldn't swear to it...a little research on that end might be helpful...might yield a clue as to how to best approach it but none of that is really vital...just additional ammo when available.

m1thr0s

MythMath

10-29-2007, 04:42 AM

Just jump in the deep end, huh...? :laugh:

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The other two Pillars would yield these seeds:

Three - 987, 654, 321

Four - 963, 852, 741

These seeds permutate out to the same 36 tones, and
so therefore don't actually yield 'two other' Mirrors...

I'd still like to see your diagram of the ternary bigrams in Four Pillars ... :yes:
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It's great to receive confirmation on the hunch that the two original scales
(Mirrors One & Two) were significantly and uniquely related, one might say twins...

Ida/Pingala, etc/etc...

And that they both are intimately related to the LoShu...
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/LoShuSigil.jpg
Earlier today I also learned just how integrally linked
the Tai Hsuan Ching and the Lo Shu are, with all
of their multiples-of-nine lives: Nine Lives (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=27971&postcount=9)

MythMath

10-29-2007, 06:22 AM

m1, you gave me an idea...

If I run Mirror Two in descending chronological order
(987 thru 123), then all I have to do is rotate the sigil 90*...

And I don't have to perform that inelegant, symmetry-busting flip...

In fact, the two sigils superimposed make a convincing visual statement:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/LoShuWindmill.jpg
Lo Shu Windmill

Swasti-form Turbine

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The 'other two' (Mirrors 3 & 4; the polar palindromes) would form a
mirror image of this windmill sigil that would 'spin' in the opposing direction...!

m1thr0s

10-29-2007, 03:42 PM

yeah...that's interesting. I'm really kind of partial to the elegant simplicity of the first set personally. I'm pretty sure you could retain that just by running your counts in opposite directions...haven't checked it but it seems correct to me.

I'd still like to see your diagram of the ternary bigrams in Four Pillars ... :yes:possibly a little redundant but these things bear repeating...

Heaven Descending...
1 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif (00)
2 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif (01)
3 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif (02)
4 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif (10)
5 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif (11)
6 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif (12)
7 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif (20)
8 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif (21)
9 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif (22)

Heaven Ascending...
9 (9) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif (22)
8 (6) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif (21)
7 (3) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif )20)
6 (8) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif (12)
5 (5) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif (11)
4 (2) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif (10)
3 (7) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif (02)
2 (4) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif (01)
1 (1) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif (00)

Earth Ascending...
9 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/09.gif (22)
8 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/08.gif (21)
7 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/07.gif (20)
6 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/06.gif (12)
5 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/05.gif (11)
4 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/04.gif (10)
3 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/03.gif (02)
2 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/02.gif (01)
1 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/01.gif (00)

Earth Descending...
1 (1) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/01.gif (00)
2 (4) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/04.gif (01)
3 (7) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/07.gif (02)
4 (2) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/02.gif (10)
5 (5) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/05.gif (11)
6 (8) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/08.gif (12)
7 (3) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/03.gif (20)
8 (6) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/06.gif (21)
9 (9) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bea/09.gif (22)

To reiterate the principle, our *alpha values* always receive the smallest number and our *omega values* the largest. Our *gender lines* are the ones that change the least frequently and can be in either the earth or heaven positions at start (not the middle...bigrammaton does not support encrypted chronologies, even though it is possible to create them in trigrams or higher structures).

In the Heaven arrangements yangs=0, jens=1 and yins=2
In the Earth arrangements yins=0, jens=1 and yangs=2

Heaven Descending and Earth Ascending are our *anchor* arrangements since they combine both whole elements and gender line vales in their respective *default* positions, ie Heaven is in Heaven and Gender Lines are in the Above - Earth is in Earth and Gender Lines are in the Below.

m1thr0s

MythMath

10-30-2007, 02:19 AM

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/LSDsigilwithMirrorscopy.jpg
The bottom 2 sigils create these 2 additional sequences
(along with their respective palindromic/polar counterparts)...

While these 4 additional sequences are not in a chronological order,
they do however mutate coherently in logical, spiral patterns...

m1thr0s

10-30-2007, 03:01 AM

it all comes out in the wash one way or another. when you start combining geometry and numbers you often find you have to push things out farther than they may have been pushed traditionally, just to account for the super-symmetries that will emerge. The Lo Shu, for instance, really can't be considered to be just one arrangement since there are at least 8 ways of placing that arrangement without interfering with the numbers at all...4 sides on the front face and another 4 on the backsides etc. (16 faces if we include diamonds). There may even be more...it's been awhile since I played around with all of that stuff...

Yet the traditionalist Chinese scholars only very much considered one arrangement for the most part and developed all kinds of bizarre doctrines confining certain numbers to certain domains and so on...9 is the number of Heaven or 1 is the number of Earth etc...all perfectly true...and not true at the same time...yet in those days to challenge such assertions openly would typically amount to a death-sentence. We shouldn't lose sight of these facts...the intellectual freedom we enjoy today can hardly be called the norm of history.

Today we have a lot more incentive to explore the entire mathematical range of things as much as might be possible...In part this comes back to context...we have genetics and physics and higher mathematics to weigh into the balance that the ancients simply did not have in the overwhelming abundance we have today. We have to account for the world as we find it, the same as they did...only 5000 years later we really do have a little more data on tap.

m1thr0s

m1thr0s

10-31-2007, 05:47 AM

These sigils remind me of the Lightning Bolts...but more unicursal...so like Unicursal Lightning Bolts...those are my favorite kind...

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum

11-02-2007, 12:25 AM

figure d in post three obviously reminds me of the unicursal hex...but jazzed up with a several hundred mics of lsd...lol

kidding, but this is really beautiful work MM...i wish i knew more of this as well, but i can already imagine blending tones and sounds with ritual based on correspondences...

Dragon

11-03-2007, 12:38 AM

Totally following you on this one mm, good work. I know about the sacred freqs..I have been around the tuning fork sets when in use :cool:.

Great connections; thank you.

ta -

~D~

MythMath

11-03-2007, 01:23 AM

Thanks Gentlemen...

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Well, I was sure we all felt a familiarity with those sigil forms,
because we'd been 'looking at them' for some time...

Definitely some Caduceus thang happening...

And I kept getting a strong A.C. vibe,
via the unicursal hexagram,
so I poked around the Thoth deck...

Caduceus + Thoth + AC 'hex' = 6 of Swords (Mercury)/Science/Sigil:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/6ofSwordscopy.jpg
Name: Tiphareth (Beauty) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Key_Scale#The_Ten_Sephiroth))
Key Scale: 6 (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Key_Scale#The_Ten_Sephiroth))
Astrology: Sol (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Sol) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Astrology_and_the_Tree_of_Life))Tarot
Swords: Science (Mercury in Aquarius) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tarot_and_the_Tree_of_Life))
Magick & Mysticism
Element (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Elements): Air (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Elements))
Magical Weapons (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Magical_Weapons): The Lamen or Rosy Cross (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Magical_Weapons))
Magical Formula: ABRAHADABRA, IAO:INRI (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Magical_Formul%C3%A6))
Parts of the Soul (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Parts_of_the_Soul): Ruach (The Intellect) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Parts_of_the_Soul))
Chakra (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Chakras): Anahata (heart) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Chakras))
Order of Qliphoth: Thagiriron (Disputers) (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Orders_of_Qliphoth))
Magical Power: The Vision of the Harmony of Things (also the Mysteries of the Crucifixion), (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Magical_Powers))
[B]Figure related to Pure Number: Calvary Cross, Truncated Pyramid, Cube (# (http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tree_of_Life:Figures_related_to_Pure_Number))From: http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Tiphareth

m1thr0s

11-03-2007, 04:58 AM

Projective Geometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projective_geometry) strikes again...

that's really a very interesting observation MM...

m1thr0s

MythMath

11-03-2007, 05:09 AM

Projective Geometry in the Thoth Deck (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=1678&highlight=Projective)

deviadah

11-07-2007, 10:37 PM

I'm a complete neophyte when it comes to Sacred Geometry... and I want to understand...

Could you please explain Sacred Solfeggio Frequencies to me as if I was an idiot!

:cool:

MythMath

11-08-2007, 12:09 AM

That's easy...!

As I, unfortunately, know so very little about them...

This list was recited to me one day by a stranger in a phone conversation:

The 18 'sacred solfeggio' frequencies (in Hz):

1- 147
2- 174
3- 258
4- 285
5- 369
6- 396
7- 417
8- 471
9- 528
10- 582
11- 639
12- 693
13- 714
14- 741
15- 825
16- 852
17- 936
18- 963

The tones were described to me glowingly as having great significance,
and in addition to their profound healing and balancing properties,
they had actually been encrypted in the 'Bible Code'...

I expressed at the time much skepticism and doubt,
but my job is to translate my clients' sonic 'visions'
onto shiny silver discs, so...

Shortly after this I met the stranger and I began
working with her (and her associates) on recording
a set of tuning forks, tuned to these frequencies...

Since then, we've experimented fairly extensively with
these tones (and many, many others, as well) in several
various 'sinewave compositions'...

The tuning forks were quickly eschewed (for recording purposes),
and the required frequencies are now generated digitally to form 'audio clips'
that can be freely manipulated with regard to volume, L-R panning, etc...

By mixing the tones in different combinations, chords can be built up, as in any
other musical composition, but in this case the results were not always euphonic...

When we began visually monitoring the arrangement of audio clips, however,
by sending the L & R audio signal to an oscilloscope set to X/Y mode, we
delightfully discovered that intriguing animations could be achieved...
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MythMathFilms on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=MythMathFilms)are some examples of the experiments that I've
done personally, inspired by the original work that had I done for my client...

Her purpose is to create multi-modality vibrational displays (light/sound/color) as
treatments to heal or balance specific or generalized aberrations or conditions...

My intention was to use these same basic elements and techniques to
launch a relatively unique, flowing and dynamic artform (any comparisons
to your computer's mediaplayer's 'autowallpaper' effects, notwithstanding)... :p

By disregarding any stated correlation between a given frequency and
a given ailment, I approach this animation process as if I'm 'painting'...

With the tones as my brushes, the flowing lines of oscilloscope light as my pigment
and the colors available through my humble video editing software as my palette...
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I've done some typical internet searches on this whole topic, but have
found basically zilch, so when my hunches about the tones started to
align with some of the stuff here at Abrahadabra, I was encouraged...

With the permission of my client/friend, who essentially channeled the
original info, I've posted all this here hoping to find out more from others...

Anything else that I know about these tones has been presented above in this thread...

deviadah

11-08-2007, 12:18 AM

Thanks for taking the time... I understood everything about that!

You should write like that more often... :cool:

Can you do graphs on normal notes/scales from say a piano?

MythMath

11-08-2007, 12:34 AM

Great...

Any composition made up of 'simple' sinewaves will
yield a (potentially) visually-satisfying linear display...

[Other simple waveform types, ramp/triangle/pulse/square,
can be used to reveal interesting designs, but in my work,
they are used essentially as variations on the sinewaves...]

However, if the original tones were produced on any instrument that
generates 'complex' composite waveforms (basically all of them*),
then the visual display of the o-scope would be one of a 'scattered cloud'...

Even the most beautiful-sounding music would produce
this cloud effect, which is rather chaotic in appearance,
in complete contrast to the linear clarity of the sinewaves...

Which often do not sound very pleasant...
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* a few exceptions that come to mind:
triangle/chime/glockenspiel-type instruments,
possibly some whistle/flute/ocarina-types and
of course, synthesizers...oh, and tuning forks...

m1thr0s

11-08-2007, 01:45 AM

You should write like that more often... :cool:i agree...that was possibly the first time most of this sunk in for me too...at least in terms of the background and all of that.

m1

MythMath

11-08-2007, 02:08 AM

My wife could readily vouch that it may not be a good
idea to actually encourage me to go into 'more detail'... :rolleyes: :laugh:

:yes: Loquacious Gemini :yes:

m1thr0s

11-08-2007, 03:03 AM

yeah well...girls just want to have fun...:p

and if i don't catch some shit for saying that i will be seriously amazed...hehe...

m1thr0s

deviadah

11-08-2007, 02:00 PM

Would this be a worthy introduction to sinewaves?

An Introduction to Magic Sinewaves (http://www.tinaja.com/glib/msintro1.pdf)

So if I supply a note sequence you could in theory create one of these graphs?

:confused:

MythMath

11-08-2007, 06:17 PM

To answer your last question first:

Yes...!

But the sequence of tones is not quite enough...

If single (mono) tones are sent to the o-scope (in 'phasescope' or 'X/Y' mode),
then the display will show only a single, straight, diagonal line...

In order for the real lightshow to begin,
a stereo signal (L-R = X/Y) must be used...

So the original sequence of tones must be arranged so that some audio
content would be present (in varying degrees) in both channels...

It's these transitions of the tones (shifts in volume and in 'panorama' [L-R])
that produce the flowing linear designs on the screen of the scope...
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As for your first question:
I have no idea what that document is referring to... :no:

The waveform that they show as a Magic Sinewave
appears to me to be PWM or Pulse Width Modulation...

But I am not formally trained, any knowledge I have came
from reading non-tech-ish books and almost 30 years of
experimentation with audio and recording systems...

As I've stated before, I'm way more Myth than Math...

'Math' is usually the means to an end, for me...

And the end is art/alchemy...
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This is more applicable to what I'm doing...

[From wiki:]

A pure tone is a single frequency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency) tone with no harmonic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic) content (no overtones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone)).

This corresponds to a sine wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_wave).

It is characterized by the frequency — the number of cycles per second,
the wavelength (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength) — the distance the waveform travels through its medium within a period,
and the amplitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude) — the size of the cycles.

deviadah

11-08-2007, 06:24 PM

Thank you...very helpful. I understand you almost 100% now!!!

The reason I ask, without going too far off topic here, is because I am trying to dabble with creating a Music of the Spheres that can be placed within a normal pop-song (i.e. meant to ends in the style of world domination :p).

I feel sounds is of great importance... in ads on TV for instance the most powerful aspect is the sound element!

Would be cool to supply you with a note sequence, done in the manner you describe, and then get a graphic of it back. Then I can create the music to the image. This stuff I know you yourself is already doing... but I am thinking about beating these fuckers at their own game... I got connections and I could try and slip this onto TV (well Swedish anyway)!

Experimenting with the general public is such fun! :)

:cool:

MythMath

11-08-2007, 06:32 PM

Yeah, it's amazing all the visual elements in commercials
that I notice (including 'fine print') when the sound is off...
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I'm always game to try a collaboration... :yes:

What frequencies do you have in mind...?

And perhaps if could give me some kind of
'conceptual framework' that would guide me
in assembling an 'appropriate' arrangement...

[There is usually a fair amount of tone tweaking
involved to achieve optimally compelling images...]

deviadah

11-08-2007, 06:44 PM

Ok, let me have this bubbling in my subconscious for a few days... It's still new stuff to me, and I always try to do things when they feel natural. Go-with-the-flow kinda guy... (controlled synchronicities and all that)!

When I feel cooked and ready I'll continue this in PM.

:cool:

MythMath

11-08-2007, 06:48 PM

I'll be here... :yes:

wiz-oz

12-01-2007, 03:08 AM

Hi MythMath, just came across your thread on the Solfeggio scale. I've been playing with that since 2002, but not from a music perspective, but in relation to the geometry. When you look at the diagram below some of it becomes clearer. From a healing point of view note I've indicated that it may be necessary to use two frequencies togther = 999 for best effect, which spiral in opposite directions. As we live in a duality that makes sense.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/SolfaTriad.jpg

Note that number 1-9 around circle are right handed (anticlockwise) in direction and the triangles are left handed (clockwise in direction.

I'm interested in your thoughts on this and if you've taken it further. In addition I nobody on the net seems to be aware that the frequencies listed above are in actual fact based on 7ths where 3,6,9 are not present eg: 1/7 =0.142 857 but the 6 numbers in groups of 3 add up to 999 they are there but in space and time.

Cheers from Down Under
Wiz-oz

MythMath

12-01-2007, 03:29 AM

Hi Wiz...

I've been looking forward to your reply here...

Synchronistically, I was looking at a very
similar 9-point circle when you posted this...;)

I'm definitely going to play around with this: f1 + f2 = 999...

We've experimented with using 9990 as a drone tone for similar reasons...
_______________

I'm interested in your thoughts on this and if you've taken it further. In addition I nobody on the net seems to be aware that the frequencies listed above are in actual fact based on 7ths where 3,6,9 are not present eg: 1/7 =0.142 857 but the 6 numbers in groups of 3 add up to 999 they are there but in space and time.I know that whatever this means to you, it is critical...

Please explain this to me in a few different ways,
one of them is bound to connect... :laugh:

m1thr0s

12-01-2007, 04:18 AM

somewhere in all of this there is going to emerge an important electromagnetic confirmation of the TwinStar count itself...I can feel it...the pieces are almost all there but I just don't quite have a grasp on the lingo...

No hurry I guess save that questions regarding both controlled trance and optimal energy states are kind of hanging on that confirmation...all things in time though...

thanks for your work in this area folks...fascinating to watch.

m1thr0s

wiz-oz

12-01-2007, 05:50 AM

Hi MythMath, All I've seen on the net is mostly aluminium tuning forks using the 6 frequencies. However, I'm concerned how these are using as I believe aluminium ones may code that metal into the body - which is bad news. The preference would be steel ones, but not using as a single frequency.

Having said that here's a further diagram on 7ths which might explain what I'm talking about using space/time and frequencies and how a series of 7ths spiral in a mirror fashion from 1/7 to 3/7 to 6/7.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/CirculationofSevenths.jpg

I prefer using the diagrams as they convey more than words. This shows the power of 3-6-9 in terms of what Tesla & Keely have said. The fact that 3 & 6 act in space and 9 act in time to combine the frequencies together. Note the way sevenths move through this medium and how they shift and act in concert with each other and how elegant they are from what appears just a set of numbers with decimal places.

I'm not a musician and don't have a musical bone in my body. But I do know that 7ths are not used in western music generally and if what I've shown is true then it also makes sense why these have been avoided because of the impact they may have healing wise. If I'm intuiting things right.

I'm interested in how you use the Sofeggio frequencies in healing work as sound I believe is the future of healing. Although, with this covenant - that this is not new as the ancients used this mode more frequently.

Cheers from Underneath
Wiz-Oz

MythMath

12-01-2007, 06:53 PM

Wiz, have you seen this guy's stuff...?

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/rodin7scopy.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/rodincopy.jpg

YouTube - Marko Rodin Chapter 40 "FOREIGN SUBTITLE TRANSLATORS WANTED"

MythMath

12-01-2007, 08:21 PM

Nine Lives

YouTube - Vedic Math 9 Point Circle: Why is 9 ~ 0?

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/THC-LSD-widders-only-for-IR.gif

wiz-oz

12-03-2007, 10:07 PM

Thanks MythMaths for the U-Tube links, they didn't add much to my knowledge and I don't subscribe to the 0-9 theory at all. What I was seeking was comments from you not other people's work. However, I saw your "sigal' with numbers 1 to 9 and want to share something special with you. The following diagram is a pattern of 15 squares with numbers 1 to 8 and nine is regarded and the "governor" and doesn't appear in the series. The numbers are arranged in the pattern in space & time such that they are all octavely based and connected to nine. Nine rules the position and doubling of the numbers, which spiral.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Base9-OctaveHarmonics.jpg

Note this is a similar series to the Rodan 1248571 on the outer circle while 3 & 6 are in the centre. Note also there are 7 blank squares.

It works by octaves 1,2,4,8 16= (9+7), 7+7 = 14 (9+5) 5+5 = 10 (9=1) return. While 3 +3 =6 +6 =12 (9+3) return to 3.

Note the separation of the numbers by either 1 or 2 and 1,2,4 all octaves.

Note the odd/even numbers add to nine and when you take this down to a quantum level see diagram of electron shells and 1-8, 2-7, 4-5, 3-6, 9-0:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/ElectronLayershells.jpg

Then re-connect this with sevenths:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Sevenths.jpg

The first diagram came in a dream all about an eight of spades, look at the layout of the numbers. It is complete, related to sound, space & time and very elegant and balanced. I believe that 9 is the UNITY number not 1 as we are lead to believe. This matches the concept of alpha & omega - the first & the last. while I haven't established yet its full potential, my instincts say its hyperdimensional in application and why I haven't fullly understood its message.

MythMath

12-04-2007, 08:35 AM

Hey Wiz,

Great stuff; the plot thickens... ;)

I'm going to have to re-read your last post a few times (after coffee :p)
before I can even formulate any questions to ask you about it...

I posted those youtube videos just because of all of these 3/6(9)
synchs, knowing that the links really don't pertain here (or do they?)...

I certainly can agree that 9 seems rules this roost...

Have you looked at any of the kymotropes...?

MythMathFilms (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MythMathFilms)

I'll be back...

MM

_________________

PS - any significance for you to OZ, other than your geolocation...?

wiz-oz

12-05-2007, 06:41 AM

Not many overseas forum people get it. Yes you're right OZ= AUSSIE. However, there's a deeper layered meaning of wiz-oz as the Wizard of Oz has its roots embedded in ancient Egyptian times. That is, Bu Wizzer, meaning the Land of Osiris, was an area of Khemit, stretching to Abu Ruwash in the North and Dashur in the South, bordered by the Libyan desert to the west and Helwan to the east. Bu Wizzer incorporated Giza, Saqqara, Abu Sir and Abu Gurab (site of an ancient ruined obelisk). These sacred sites are all linked by a Fibonacci Spiral. It is also what the movie Star Wars is based on DJEDHI / JEDHI /JEDI (meaning Serpent-Priests) Jedhi knights etc.

MythMath

12-05-2007, 07:08 AM

Thanks for that info, I'll do a little research on all that...

BTW...

How's the scene in Oz for folks 'like us'...

We're nearly ready for a new frontier, any room left down under...? :laugh:

Might be a good place to welcome in 2013... ;)

Dutch

12-05-2007, 07:48 AM

very interesting stuff here.

a few years ago I was working on what came to be the still running 'breaking the code' stuff (posted realtime) and a reader asked me about the numers 1-7-4 ( or in any other combination ). I disregarded the request but the guy insisted and I realized I had dismissed a synchronicity. The 174 became a breakthrough, at least to me, in a theorethical longterm precession cycle. Without going into details here I calculated somekind of a difference between our 'realtime' and the 911 Hyper dimensional tetrahedron design. Anyway, the exact difference made me expect to see a Nagasaki-echo materialize on July 15 (+/-1day), 2007 as I have posted years ago on the internet. On July 16 a strongl earthquake struck Japan causing the worlds biggest nuclear plant to leak, coinciding with a powerfull Typhoon. Its hard to imagine another way to express a Nagasaki echo without throwing another fat boy on Japan.
Anyway, 174 became a keyelement in the described Hyper Dimensional Design. Another number that drew my attention in sthis thread: 999

I was looking for connections between the Hyper Dimensional Platonic Solids as marked by significant events in our reality and I had a 'gap' to connect all the solids eventually. During June 2005 a timecoded pattern emerged which made me expect a 9/11 like event for July 7, 2005 ( you can verify) and when the July 7, London bombings happened, the connections became clear. The Bali bombing and the july 7 London bombings were the 2 missing links that made the geometry complete: 999 days apart.

Apopheros

12-05-2007, 11:00 AM

Fascinating stuff out there.
Do you think you could come up with a visual frequency count of some sort with this picture?

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/336/skysa7.jpg

It's a UFO sighting somebody witnessed in London on January 25th 2007. He said he heard a sound like somebody sighing or crying while he witnessed the UFO. So I thought that maybe it'd be possible to estimate what frequency he has been hearin or see what those light spheres are about.

ATS related link (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/single/2905843.html)

laters

wiz-oz

12-05-2007, 08:27 PM

Hi Dutch, when I read your post and 1-7-4 an inner voice said, look in between the numbers not at them. Again you can see the application of 6-3 difference. Also you mentioned the Tetrahedron, One interesting aspect of the 3 tiered tetrahedron is that it is made up of 1-3-6 smaller tetra and becomes a larger version of itself. But within it is another hidden inverted tetrahedron nestled within 4 octahedrons. No wonder in freemasonary the 11 is so revered. See diagram below. the inverted hidden tetra is hard to see though. But trust me it's there.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Tetra11.jpg

wiz-oz

12-06-2007, 12:08 AM

Mythmath, We've just had an election and 'dropped kicked' our Prime Minister John Howard out of the leading job and out of parliament (lost his seat), mainly because he's a mate of good ol' George Bush and most Aussies are against troops in Iraq etc. They tried to screw the people on unfair job dismissal laws and work contracts and called it "Work Choices". Its going to be one of the things to go under the new leadership.

As for 2012 Australia has always been called the 'lucky country' and are very multi-cultural and adopt the best of each culture. But i don't thing anyone knows really what 2012 is about - may be business as usual and if there are any changes they will be major and before that date in my book. @012 I think is more an inner journey than an outer one anyway and I guess everyone is where they should be if they listen to their guidance.

Ps: Dutch the 174 is also the first Solgeggio frequency and I guess why you tuned in to this thread.

wiz-oz

12-11-2007, 03:09 AM

Hi Mythmath & other members interested - In reference to my previous posts about numbers 1-9 Solfeggio Scale etc I have attached a further diagram that is in space & time and sound related. It is a series of logarithmic / octave-based semi circles and when you plot the 90 degree points the straight line thru' those points are at 72-108 degrees or in a ratio of 3:2 = perfect 5th in music. Also when you plot the 108 degree points on each semi circle in forms a perpedicular line in 2D. Again we have a venerated number '108' that show up in many ancient cultural stories, particularly vedic.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/OctaveSpiral90.jpg

Notice how the semi circle spiral match the fibonnacci numbers 360-72-108-180 etc and that 108-252 are also 3/7ths it all speaks the same language with my own Base 9 harmonic grid - but expressed in a different way.

I read somewhere in Sumarian Text about the hidden secret of the number 252 by the Goddess Ishtar, but can't recall the reference to it.

m1thr0s

12-11-2007, 03:18 AM

108 also happens to be the exact number of yins, yangs or jens in the 81 Shou of the Tai Hsuan Ching...arranged on a 9 x 9 square with 81 tetragrams. So 81 x 4 = 324 / 3 = 108...

This number gets around a lot...also the number of prayer beads on a number of rosaries, etc... maybe 9x12 or something...not sure of the reasoning there...

m1

MythMath

12-11-2007, 03:26 AM

Hey Wiz,

I was just about to head home for the night,
and I'm glad I checked in before leaving...

Very in-spiraling... :yes:

Please post any support text that you
may have regarding applications, etc...

You said that you use the tones, etc.
for healing, but are you also a musician...?

Do you (or others you know) use these
tones for 'mere' musical compositions...?

Do you (or others you know) design and/or
build 'performance' instruments...?

Do you use tuningforks and/or electronic generation...?

How about o-scopes and/or phasescopes, etc...?

Years ago, I was in contact with Warren Burt down
there in Oz, are you familiar with him/his work...?

I'll reciprocate answers if you have specific questions... ;)

Thanks,

MM

edit: I re-read an earlier post of yours and saw that you claim not to be a musician...

MythMath

12-11-2007, 03:35 AM

m1,

Thanks for the TaiHsuanChing connection...

What are your feelings regarding the
significance of these Philosopher's Tones...?

m1thr0s

12-11-2007, 10:33 AM

it's all very intriguing MM - of course what I really want out of all of this personally is a meditation chamber built to specs...

you guys appear to be 90% there already...unless I'm just being optimistic...

m1

MythMath

12-11-2007, 07:41 PM

unless I'm just being optimistic...

What are the odds of that...? :p

wiz-oz

12-12-2007, 06:26 AM

MythMath, I haven't -would you believe - a musical bone in my body. I've been playing around with the concept of space/time (geometry) and octaves and how the various numbers keep re-occurring as a theme for me and realised that for me the universe uses just 9 numbers and that '0' is a construct and that the idea of '1' as unity misleading. Yet the paradox is we are communication via 1's and 0's. However, the point is this is a man-made structure - not a universal one in my view. My approach goal, except to share knowledge and hope that it may lead to a fundamental understanding of sound for healing. When you mentioned the solfeggio scale I assumed you were a musician or had software etc and experimenting with these. But I didn't know in what context. I wish I had a specific application for the info, but sometimes sharing can spark a potential. None of what I presented is accidental, it pertains to lost knowledge and may even be hyperdimensional and why I haven't been able to grasp it fully.

For example, in base 9 octave system grid strange things happen when you double the numbers octavely. 1+1=2+2=4+4= 8+8 = [1+8] and 1+2+4=7 therefore it moves thru' nine to spawn another grid of 1+8 leaving fractals of 1+2+4 =7 behind. Then 1+2+4= 7 + 7 = [7+2] and 4+1 = 5. therefore it's self generating into another dimension. As if the nine is a veil see diagram:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Base9Octavegrid.jpg

The problem is that it's difficult to find like minded people who I can bounce ideas and opinions off of, as you must agree this stuff in on the edge of something far greater than my mind can wrap around. I hope this makes sense to you and that we can find some common ground.

In summary I see sound being the future of healing, that a single frequency is not natures way and that a balanced approach is required and octaves appear to form a natural spiralling effect in space/time geometry. In addition 7ths seems to be an important ingredient given that it is the only number not capable of dividing a circle evenly. like a transidental number if you like.

Tuning forks are a possibility but need a feedback system and linked electronically to work effectively and I don't have the resources or expertise to do this research. However quartz crystals could do the same job.
Don't know of W Burt Oz is a big country, but I believe he's well credentialled. Might be worth me sending my stuff to him. Thanks for the lead.

Cheers

MythMath

12-13-2007, 01:00 AM

Wiz,

Many (if not most/all) of the current digital audio
recording/editing programs include a feature
that can be used to generate waveforms
such as sine, square, triangle, ramp, pulse...

Just type in the desired frequency and select
values for various parameters such as length,
phase, modulations, etc...

These programs also feature primitive phase
scopes for visual monitoring and analysis...

Great for experimenting, but could also
be used for treatments, etc...

Some of these programs are quite affordable...

I use Steinberg Wavelab and Adobe Audition...
____________________

Are you applying tones for healing in any way,
or is your work strictly theoretical at this point...?

Do you utilize (or create) charts that link specific
frequencies to specific ailments/imbalances (ala Rife)...
___________

I checked out some sites regarding Keely; very interesting...

Especially that they branded him a fraud
after his (odd) death by streetcar...

I've read that many alternative/sound healers
(or their labs, etc.) met with similarly dubious fates...

Do you have any Keely tales to share...?

Are you familiar with Ed Leedskalnin's work/Coral Castle...?

wiz-oz

12-13-2007, 02:31 AM

Mythmath, my work to date is still theorical, but will be hooking up with a musician/naturopath in the near future to further research. I've checked Ed Leedskalnin's work/Coral Castle site, but didn't really find what I was looking for. I don't have any other Keeley tales other than a reference to the 'rule of nines', which was never properly explained in his work. But you could look it up. Seems both alt-healers and new energy guys seem to meet with un-natural deaths. Thanks for the software tips.

MythMath

12-13-2007, 02:59 AM

I brought up Ed L's stuff, because of the
electromagnetic nature of his work...

Also, Jon Depew's continuation of EL's theories
sort of synchs up with various 3/6/9 aspects...

wiz-oz

12-14-2007, 11:44 PM

MythMath, Funny you mention the 3-6-9 as I remembered a UK crop circle in 1991 called barbury castle Tetrahedron see pix:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Cropcirclebarburycastle1991.jpg

and it inspired me back in 2001 to come up with a dial-up version of the Solfeggio scale using a tetrahedron, three circles/dials and co-ordinates of 3-6-9 going anticlockwise, while the 'dials' go clockwise. Each advance of each dial produces the next frequency.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Softa_tetra.jpg

It's expressing the Solfeggio frequencies in different ways achieving the same results using circular motion, geometry and space/time.

I'll check out Jon Depew's EL's theories
with the 3/6/9 aspects... You can see that it central to the working of the frequencies.

cheers from Oz

MythMath

12-15-2007, 12:24 AM

Very cool...

I very much enjoy comparing 'notes' with you...

wiz-oz

12-16-2007, 03:40 AM

Thankyou for the compliment, it's great to share info becuase quite often you remember something and brings back more to the table. I looked and the EL site you suggested and realised what I had missed previously in connection with my grid of 1-8, 7-2, 4-5, 3-6 that on the left side numbers 2,4,8 are pos [+] while the left side 7,5,1 are neg[-]. That means the centre 3,6 & 9 are neutral. That matches the EL idea of 3 parts [+] [-] & [-/+]. Note how +8[+] & 1[-] = 9 a neutral number made up both [-/+].

So Mythmath I sincerely thankyou for directing me to something more in my quest for knowledge. It adds further layers to the pattern that started out as an 8 of spades.

How I originally hit on the code of 1-8, 7-2, 4-5, 3-6 wasn't Marko Rodin's work it was that of Richard Buckminister- Fuller and stacking of spheres for a tetrahedron. see diagram

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/TetraFullerFreq.jpg

This shows that using the most basic universal shape in 3D and spheres the stacking of them when the numbers are reduced using the rule of nines a pattern emerges 1-3-6-1-6-3-1-9-9 and every nine layers repeats.

As I've shown there's a connection to OM frequency 136.1hz and the mirror effect gives 768 which is 3 to the ninth octave. I did the same for a cheops pyramid and discovered the pattern of 1/8,2/7,3/6,4/5. I believe the second nine at the end of the sequence is a 'spacer' number.

Mythmath are you familar with Bucky's work?

Cheers from Oz and best wishes for the festive season. Although we celebrate it for the wrong reasons, but at least its a excuse to get friends together and eat & drink without guilt. I take the Pagan view of the death of the sun at the winter solatice and re-birth 3 days later rather than the Jesus version.

wiz-oz

12-18-2007, 03:44 AM

In my diagrams I've presented on this forum relating to Solfeggio Frequencies etc , I've always believed in the Ying-Yang principle of double spin in opposite direction but in complementary ways. here we have latest cosmic proof of this with the discovery that our galaxy has a double halo which spins in opposite directions see url:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2007/12/13/2116913.htm?site=science&topic=latest (http://<a href=)

and comes from OZ
PhD student Daniela Carollo, based at Australia's Mount Stromlo Observatory (http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/) in Canberra, and colleagues, report their findings today in the journal Nature (http://www.nature.com/).

cheers from us folks looking at things from upside down.

MythMath

12-18-2007, 04:38 AM

All good stuff...

I was into examining geodesic dome structures for a while...

Any more on the 136163199 sequence...?

Any thought on the Caduceus...?

________________________________________

from:"Caduceus" (http://www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forcaduc.html)

Another approach -- one that can yield alarming
results -- is to apply a materialistic reading more rigorously. From that
perspective, it is clear that the caduceus might initially have referred
to an actual tool used to induce healing and transformation. Over the
years, a small number of scholars have taken the caduceus as a diagram
for a functional tool. During my research, I ran across one of the most
recent functional interpretations by a scientist named Joshua Gulick,
who actually constructed a caduceus. He says, "It is not just a symbol.
It is an archaic blueprint for an infinitely resonant device to create
and project fourth dimensional waves…. Those of you who have studied occult
science likely know that serpents often represented electricity, while
birds represented magnetism. The serpents in the caduceus symbol represent
electrified wires with current flowing towards the heads.

"With these 4th dimensional waves, it might
be possible to affect 3 dimensional space.… It might also be extremely
easy to affect the human or animal mind at a distance. Research has already
shown that fairly strong magnetic pulses can cause firing of neurons in
the brain. With one of these staves pointed at one's head, the firings
of one's neurons might be controlled fairly precisely by varying the frequency
passing through the staff. One could be entranced with theta frequencies,
stimulated with alpha frequencies or higher, or actually put to sleep
using frequencies around 4-6 Hertz. The staff of Hermes is cited in mythology
as having a anesthetic effect…. This device is also has the potential
to be immensely useful for healing. Preliminary evidence has shown that
when hit at proper resonant frequencies, parasites, bacteria, and viruses
may be selectively destroyed.…"

Gulick's assertions may sound rather fantastic,
but he has actually conducted tests of his machine which explain much
of the caduceus symbology in a rather unexpected way. He says, "I was
hitting my staff (which had a compressed caduceus winding) with pure sine
modulated DC current…. During my experimentation, my mother called in
from the other room (she didn't know what I was doing) and asked me if
I was 'playing sounds on my computer.' I told her no and asked her what
she meant. She told me that she was 'hearing tones in her head.' It would
seem fairly possible that what she heard might had been caused by my experimentation….
I am in the process of constructing a staff using conductive ribbons rather
than wire. This modification will allow much greater efficiency and signal
stability."

From a purely materialistic angle, Gulick's
caduceus could explain the link between Hermes' staff and his other trademark,
the lyre. It also explains why, prior to the current caduceus, Hermes
staff was a staff entwined with colored ribbons.

Despite what some theorists say, symbolism
is not arbitrary. I would go as far as to say that it is never arbitrary
when it is a human act because what we consciously believe to be arbitrary
connections are almost always unconsciously meaningful. The caduceus,
like most symbols from antiquity, has accumulated a spectrum of often
conflicting meanings over the ages, becoming, in the process, a frustrating
summarizing symbol. But those meanings, as you have seen, are accessible
through a variety of approaches.

So the caduceus could be the blueprint for
a machine used for mind control and healing, a diagram of how the human
body is its own vehicle for transcendence, or merely an accidental symbol
for the medical profession. Take your pick, but apply your caduceus wisely;
remember that the most important rule for the physician is, "First, do
no harm."

MythMath

01-02-2008, 12:56 AM

{Figure 1} Fractal layout of the Tai Hsuan Ching:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/Roundascendingtriograms.jpg

{Figure 2} The 9 Bigrams (extracted from Figure 1):

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/2MIRRORSTHCSERIEScopy.jpg

{Figure 3} The 3 Primary Triangles of Yang, Jen, Yin
showing chronological paths for 123, 456, 789 sequence:

Heaven Descending...
1 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif (00)
2 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif (01)
3 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif (02)
4 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif (10)
5 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif (11)
6 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif (12)
7 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif (20)
8 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif (21)
9 = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif (22)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/3MIRRORSTHCSERIEScopy.jpg
{Figure 4} The 3 Secondary Triangles of balanced energies
A = 147, B = 258, C = 369:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/4MIRRORSTHCSERIEScopy.jpg
{Figure 5} Showing Secondary Triangles and
chronological paths for 147, 258, 369 sequence:

Heaven Ascending...
9 (9) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/09.gif (22)
8 (6) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/06.gif (21)
7 (3) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/03.gif )20)
6 (8) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/08.gif (12)
5 (5) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/05.gif (11)
4 (2) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/02.gif (10)
3 (7) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/07.gif (02)
2 (4) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/04.gif (01)
1 (1) = http://abrahadabra.com/images/bhd/01.gif (00)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/5MIRRORSTHCSERIEScopy.jpg
{Figure 6} Showing Primary and Secondary Triangles
with both chronological path sequences:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/6MIRRORSTHCSERIEScopy.jpg
{Figure 7} Compare to TwinStar with Hex:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/TwinStarHexcopy.jpg

m1thr0s

01-02-2008, 01:51 AM

You appear to be exploring what is sometimes referred to as *mansions* MythMath...which is a good thing. There are a range of these and they are not all created equal - which is to say that some of them may have broader applications than others.

The TwinStar itself - at the level of its embodiment - does have to follow the numerical pattern I have outlined but it does no harm (and may do a great deal of good) to ascertain where these lines come to meet with other parallel applications, or *houses*, or *mansions*...

Time Chambers man...I can smell those puppies heating up in all of this...

m1thr0s

MythMath

01-04-2008, 12:46 AM

Here's a whack at animating the graphs above:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/MIRRORS-THC-3.gif

m1thr0s

01-04-2008, 02:16 AM

sweet...that's a very interesting effect...sort of disco maybe...but with a purpose!!!

sort of reminiscent of the strobe experiments that were run back in the 60's...I wonder what rate this would have to be flashing at to stone out the entire internet...:cool:

m1thr0s

Dragon

01-04-2008, 12:21 PM

Wow, the TwinStar has come a long way since those first hand drawn images, but the math and the relationship of the elements remains consistent in as far as what it draws out of people in terms of symbolic language - there is definitely a conversation going on here.

. Good to see people "walking in the fields" of the grammatons always, but one begs to ask - What are the effects of these images upon your beings? One of the earmarks of a well tuned system is the actualization of the energy, and this is particularly true of the TwinStar and directly working with trigrammaton.

What has manifested as a result of the creation of these images? Matter? Visions? Dreams? What comes from beyond when these things are described?

~D~

p.s. One also begs to ask, is there any correlation between the noticable effects of the Solveggio frequencies and the TwinStar meditation in experimentation?

MythMath

01-13-2008, 02:56 AM

18 points on a tetrahedron:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/18pointsonatetrahedroncopy.jpg

m1thr0s

01-13-2008, 03:35 AM

and the center makes 19?

hmmm...

m1

Kuroyagi

01-13-2008, 04:20 AM

So the caduceus could be the blueprint for
a machine used for mind control and healing, a diagram of how the human
body is its own vehicle for transcendence
Symbols like those I often try to recur to my own body. And in the case of the caduceus it would be "the hand(s)"- my twin hands and arms- they even have two main modes of operation: 1) to grasp/hold my prey (weapon) and 2) to tinker or caress something (the fur of my buddies ;)) which is the healing-side, and also the one used in constructing and design, as the musical one (science and the arts/sex)-- the staff, the wand, the (magical and mundane) dagger (which is a finger with my claw/nail on it) have basically all derived from it, the hand- too- and I'd wish that also espcially medical scientists would become more aware (in the back of their minds) of all machines as the extension of their limbs and their -mind- by which they could not only conjoin and regualte their commands but also could and can add a certain focus, a strong intent or that last iota of intuition that could bring a "lost case" back to our side again, if they would only work it "tantrically": connecting the methods..."hands and eyes of god" this could be called...music is the most etheral stuff, it seems to be already "there" and that you only tune in and express it somehow if you like; it would be great if we could have a device/a machine by help of which we could tune in from below, too, yet I'm not sure if that machine needs to be as concrete as our own body in this case: whether its only drawn in graphs or constructed in 3D is the same to me (in case of medical machines thats probably different; yet who knows? maybe one day we can again either effectively merge the systems (e.g. Western and trad. Chinese; body-mind-intuition etc))/tools/aids better or even do all in a simple yet equally effective way with only the mind and body we already have...that would be pretty nice I think.)

MythMath

01-15-2008, 06:16 AM

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/18pointsonatetrahedronREDBLACKWHITE.jpg
REDS = 1, 4, 7 and 10(1), 13(4), 16(7)

WHITES = 2, 5, 8 and 11(2), 14(5), 17(8)

BLACKS = 3, 6, 9 and 12(3), 15(6), 18(9)

__________________

This one's not quite happening,
but I'm cooking up a few more variations
that look more promising perhaps...

Then of course, there's the 36 points on a merkaba... :p

MythMath

01-15-2008, 07:17 PM

This one has more interesting groupings:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/18pointsonatetrahedronREDBLACKWH-1.jpg
REDS = 1, 4, 7 and 10(1), 13(4), 16(7)

WHITES = 2, 5, 8 and 11(2), 14(5), 17(8)

BLACKS = 3, 6, 9 and 12(3), 15(6), 18(9)

MythMath

01-15-2008, 09:26 PM

Strangely, I started feeling a bit shitty while I was
working on the previous arrangement...

I had chills, aches and diaphragm 'spasms' that would
stop when I left the layout for a while and start
up as soon as I began working on it again... :confused:

Perhaps I was running the dang thing in reverse... :laugh:

____________________

Based on that experience and some other factors, I decided
to 'flip the polarity' by flipping the image L<>R:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/18pointsonatetra4copy.jpg

Each of the 6 BLACK EQUILATERAL TRIANGLES is anchored
at the corners by sequential trios (such as 1,2,3 or 16,17,18 etc.)...

YELLOW path traces the numeric energy circuit from 1 through 18...

m1thr0s

01-16-2008, 02:06 AM

So then you are actually scrying these patterns MM?

Are you then weaving mainly via the numbers themselves in these operations?

This one is fairly spectacular I'd say...

m1

MythMath

01-16-2008, 02:17 AM

More like trying than scrying, but yes...

Connect the dots... :laugh:
________________

I like how this one changes
directions between 9 and 10...

m1thr0s

01-16-2008, 03:05 AM

ever hear of "kriyas"?

unfortunately the term has been adopted in too many ways to be entirely useful but the generic meaning is still usually intended to mean sudden and unexpected energy surges resulting from various energy manipulation practises. It most often corresponds to Kundalini Yoga but has a parallel value for all kinds of energy work in general...

Kriyas can manifest unpleasantly and are sometimes referred to as energy "knots" when they ignite badly and these knots can do all kinds of unpleasant things...ranging from cramping to bizarre energy phenomena typically swinging to extreme cold or hot spasms or bullet-like ignitions...sort of like the idea of being hit by lightning basically.

Anyway...it's not at all unusual when you are experimenting around with powerful energy tools that you may occasionally unleash one of these kriya episodes. I got stuck in one once that had me crumped up like a ball of waste paper for roughly 4 hours before it finally began to let up...

But it's a good thing actually...it kind of lets you know there is something behind what you are trying to connect to and you just sort of have to keep refining your methods to navigate around these things a bit better...you learn to take centering and grounding actions more seriously over time I think...just incorporating this everywhere all the time essentially...

m1

MythMath

01-16-2008, 04:10 AM

quote: ...you learn to take centering and grounding actions more seriously over time I think...
just incorporating this everywhere all the time essentially...
_______________________________________

Great advice...

wiz-oz

01-16-2008, 07:58 AM

MythMath, your impressive tetrahedron diagram for the Solfeggio ratios shows that the numbers 1 to 9 spiral from left to right and over 10 to 18 spiral the other way, which is consistent with the 9 pointed circle arrangement I posted earlier in this forum with number 1 to 9 going right and the triangular frequencies flowing left:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/SolfaTriad.jpg

It's communicating the same ying-yang principles. I suppose like particles and antiparticles. The dualistic nature of things. To me that's when you know your in touch with the natural order of things when you get two spiral arrangements mirroring each other. But you already practise this, so preaching to the converted.

cheers from a hot spot.:p

MythMath

01-18-2008, 06:15 AM

This one features the numbers running in order
clockwise around the outer, then inner, triangles...

Notice the nice red/white/black pattern...

Also that 147, 258, 369 all appear
anchoring equilateral triangles...

Eleven centers the structure with the
pairings of 1+10, 9+2, 8+3, 7+4, 6+5...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/18pointsonatetra5copy.jpg

REDS = 1, 4, 7 and 10(1), 13(4), 16(7)

WHITES = 2, 5, 8 and 11(2), 14(5), 17(8)

BLACKS = 3, 6, 9 and 12(3), 15(6), 18(9)

See also: Yiang Pow gameboard design (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=31032&postcount=29)

Catalytic Subterfuge

01-18-2008, 11:03 AM

Yiang POW!!!!!

MythMath

03-26-2008, 04:55 AM

wiz-oz, etal...

Just found this at you tube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/JezebelDecibel

A 'fellow' Aussie working with
solfeggio tones and binaural beats...

MythMath

04-18-2008, 07:09 PM

m1thr0s, etal,

Please help me analyze this:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/LoShuAlternatescopy.jpg

Columns A1 & A2 have been confirmed as chronological sequences...

Anything significant happening with Columns B...?

m1thr0s

04-18-2008, 08:09 PM

I can't imagine how the B columns could yield anything remarkable numerically since it'a already encrypted, but I did notice something interesting in the bigrams:
Rows 618, 753 & 294 all have an exact balance of yins yangs & jens in the above and below positions.
Columns 672, 159, 834 do as well...

not terribly surprizing but something to look at anyway...I need more time to see if there is anything remarkable in elements...

m1

MythMath

04-18-2008, 08:21 PM

I noticed something similar numerically:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/LoShuAlternates2copy.jpg

MythMath

04-18-2008, 08:50 PM

Shown below are the tables of 72 permutations of the
4 sets of 18 tones from each respective column...

A1

1-123
2-132
3-213
4-231
5-312
6-321
7-456
8-465
9-546
10-564
11-645
12-654
13-789
14-798
15-879
16-897
17-978
18-987

A2

1-147
2-174
3-258
4-285
5-369
6-396
7-417
8-471
9-528
10-582
11-639
12-693
13-714
14-741
15-825
16-852
17-936
18-963

B1

1-168
2-186
3-249
4-294
5-357
6-375
7-429
8-492
9-537
10-573
11-618
12-681
13-735
14-753
15-816
16-861
17-924
18-942

B2

1-159
2-195
3-267
4-276
5-348
6-384
7-438
8-483
9-519
10-591
11-627
12-672
13-726
14-762
15-834
16-843
17-915
18-951

MythMath

04-18-2008, 09:03 PM

72 permutations from the LoShu...

Is that all...?

Oh wait...

1-111
2-222
3-333
4-444
5-555
6-666
7-777
8-888
9-999

That makes 81... ;)

MythMath

04-19-2008, 01:16 AM

On second thought, those repeated
digits shouldn't really qualify... :no:

So, 72 it is...

Raphael

07-08-2008, 09:56 AM

Cool, I got a nibble...

First, these 'solfeggio' frequencies were originally 'revealed' to me
by a stranger's voice in a phone conversation a few years ago...

I can give ya' more than a nibble...but then again I also lived at an address for 12 years, namely @ 2220 Queen St...and sometimes of late I want you know, because my research is primarily concerned with finding the inherent Macrocosm = microcosmic 'connections', I sometimes call myself the Mm man.
This can be interpreted in another way ... the Marijuana mystic...
:yes:

First the 'solfeggio' frequencies were revealed to me within the last year...
Sadly I do not play an instrument, certainly a handicap when delving into the Solfeggio frequencies, but I still do have my intuitive guide to help interpret.
My intuitive lead journey these past 4 years was based on following a path of 'strings' related to the number 4.
At this point I just want to add...the next step after 'String Theory' will be a 'Knot Theory'.
People like you and me need to teach people how to tie their shoelaces into little knotzis.
:o_O:

Then I started seeing how certain numbers related to my employee number of 18 years, 52801, kept appearing in many esoteric writings.

And of course if you divide the number 4 by the mystical number of 7 = .571428 which repeats as you know.
If you divide the day of my birth by the month... 3/7 = .428571

Both 37 and 47 as you know in numerology/Gematria are significant.
Actually the thing that becomes apparent about Gematria is the following...
Both the ancient Hebrew and Greeks used it.
The Hebrews who follow the Torah = the Old Testament and the Greeks who helped usher in the New Testament...
Gematria being one of the oldest yet simplest codes to understand.
What is important to realize is the importance of number 37 when using Gematria.

So how is the number 37 connected to the Solfeggio frequencies and to the 4 Oracles of Zoroaster?
I did mention I was following the number that represents both creation and destruction, the number '4' for '4' years?

4 is just one of the threads/filaments/paths/journey that exist in the matrix.

Have you seen these?
Here is the gift you have been waiting for MM... :yes:

To help us both move forward by combining what we know.
Remember the Persians were the astronomers living at the same time as the Christians who were being persecuted for being to starry eyed...
Important also to remember that the Jews, Christians and Muslims have a long long history of beating each other up and stealing ideas from each other too, of course.
And before they stole from each other...there were the pagans and other indigenous cultures...
Do you think it is a coincidence that only 4 books of the Maya survived and there exists the 4 Gospels?
Is it a coincidence that a vital link can be made between the Maya/Aztec and the Tarot before the crucifix waving Judeao/Christians arrived in the New World?
As you have already shown there exists a connection to the ancient Chinese.
Good.
Self-serving religions are what stand between the ewe and mi in learning the universal truth.
IMHO

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatMirror.jpg

This first oracle I offer is called Zoroaster's Oracles ... The Great MIRROR....yeah baby...and I ponder, can it be placed over those 18 frequencies + 18 frequencies you arrived at ... using a MIRROR or polar pairs as you call them?
The 37th frequency in your image would be placed at the center?

Why 37?
http://books.google.ca/books?id=PhQ4vIIkL2kC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=bonnie+gaunt+37&source=web&ots=IyiZlYKaW4&sig=zGjlM2R34CuOFSWgvTYRXCzA1kA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/MIRRORS1AND2copy.jpg

Here are the other 3 Oracles...should keep you busy while I go back and read the last 9 pages of this thread.
Together we shall overcome the deliberate deceptions that befuddle humanity.
;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatStarGuide.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracles ... The Great Star Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatGuide.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracles ... The Great Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesChartoftheSpirits.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracles ... The Chart of the Spirits

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/circleoflife3d_1.jpg

And we cannot overlook the esoteric connection that Zoroaster's Oracles have to the Tree / Fruit / Seed of Life.
Can we?
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm

Here are some random thoughts I want to share at this time based on my musings.

528 / 582/ 285 / 258 / 852 / 825 / ... seem to be connected with the creation or defining of a 'Space'.
More on that later...

Could another set of the frequencies be concerned with TIME and yet another with MOTION?
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost = Time/Space/Motion?

As you know in the I Ching there are 3 Laws...

Law of Evolution ... (is this the father?)
Law of Change ... (is this the son?)
Law of Enantidromia ... (is this the holy spirit or ghost?)

Enantiodromia means 'reversal in extremis'

Reversal in extremis is a paramount concept in the I Ching.

Enantiodromia is a term used in psychology.
Enantiomorphs can be a pair of crystals that are mirror images of each other, and are optically active or the mirror image of a given chiral polyhedron
Enantiomer ... one of two "mirror images" of a chiral molecule.

More on this vital clue later...the word chirality is derived from the Greek χειρ (cheir), the hand.
I believe with all my heart the following...

CHiram Abiff = CHeir or chirality = handedness = SPIN baby SPIN
...oh yeah...oh yeah...the time has arrived to let the genie out...

So MM are you left handed or right handed or mixed?
What hand would you hold a mirror with?

namaste

Raphael

m1thr0s

07-08-2008, 03:48 PM

this is too damn cool...when I started off with this whole abra (and related) business hardly anybody could follow what the f*ck I was going on about...suddenly I begin to find myself playing catch-up with a few of you all...

brothers in arms...very well done.

perseverance furthers.

m1

MythMath

07-09-2008, 02:17 AM

Solfeggio Tetractys
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/TetractysalaRaphaelcopy.jpg
three = (1+4+7) = change = motion = son = spin = 1+2+3 = 6

six = (2+5+8) = reverse = space = spirit = spin = 4+5+6 = 6

nine = (3+6+9) = evolve = time = father = spin = 7+8+9 = 6

MythMath

07-09-2008, 03:20 AM

...2220 Queen St...and sometimes of late I want you
know, because my research is primarily concerned with finding the inherent
Macrocosm = microcosmic 'connections', I sometimes call myself the Mm man.
This can be interpreted in another way ... the Marijuana mystic...

Syncromystically speaking, that's quite resonant, dude... :p

So MM are you left handed or right handed or mixed? Markedly mixed... :yes:

What hand would you hold a mirror with?
Definitely each... :laugh:

This first oracle I offer is called Zoroaster's Oracles ... The Great MIRROR
....can it be placed over those 18 frequencies + 18 frequencies
you arrived at ... using a MIRROR or polar pairs as you call them?
The 37th frequency in your image would be placed at the center?

Here's the first attempt;
merely an overlay with no repositioning of the 36 points...

I'll try to work up another graphic soon with the points aligned...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/MIRRORS1AND2andZorocopy.jpg

MythMath

07-09-2008, 04:17 AM

This new aligned arrangement still preserves 'polar balance':

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/MIRRORS1AND2alignedtoZorocopy.jpg

Raphael

07-09-2008, 08:04 AM

having fun MM?
now we need to interpret those Persian alchemical / astrological symbols...

here is the path that only goes deeper and deeper...linking frequencies to the stars and planets...

google ... solfeggio zoroaster great mirror

I often do this to see if anybody is on the same 'wavelength'...
only 99 hits/results?
what are the other people posting?
here is an interesting result...
http://www.freewebs.com/rhill1967/thehealingcodes.htm

99 hits?
... means we are the trail blazers ... looking for the 100th monkey?

namaste

Mm

wiz-oz

07-10-2008, 08:00 AM

Raphael

07-10-2008, 09:00 AM

Raphael re solfeggio, here's diagram showing how the solgeggio scale is created from a circle with 9 divisions and the triangles flow in one direction, while the 1 to 9 flow in the other. On the internet prior to 2002 the only known frequencies were the first 6. The diagram proved there were more. That has since been confirmed.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/SolfaTriad.jpg

the post on this in here:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/SolfaTriad.jpg

Don't know if you are aware of this.

cheers from OZ

great info.
thanks.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/DNA3and5.gif

double helix? ... two directions ... two ribbons/strands/pillars traveling in opposite directions ... the archetype is consistent with clockwise and counterclockwise, the spiral twisting the result of a preference or handedness and handedness determines rotation or spin.

A breakdown of symmetry=asymmetry.
In physics the Principle of Complementarity, deals with the paradox of wave/particle duality.
And I believe wave particle duality can help explain symmetry and asymmetry.
(on another post...)

And I am guilty as charged.
I had seen that image and made a copy.
Why?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/enneagram.jpg

Are you familiar with the 3000+ year old enneagram that the mystical Gurdjieff resurrected?
Do you see what I see?
Has this connection been explored on this site Oz?
And 9 is always of course quite significant.
And I just want to mention again the connection between the enneagram, the numbers 1-9 and the number 7.

9/7 = 1.2857142857142857142857142857143

And the following 6 numbers will always be found, 285714, if you divide ANY whole number by 7.
With the exception of, multiplies of 7.

There are those numbers again.
528 and 1.
omit 74?
(74 = 47)

But more importantly please note the sequence of numbers 3, 6 and 9 are absent.
And in the enneagram above, the 3, 6, 9 triangle is the only one that is complete.

And these analogies we are making then fit perfectly with the Marko Rodin Coil.
Are you familiar with Marko Rodin and his 'free energy' device based on a torus?
On this blog I compare many of those symbols that fit the torus archetype.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/rodin-was-another-arketype/

I am slowly evolving an archetypal theory of everything based on the donut, to go hand-in-hand with the torus.
It is called God Is a Timbit...and we are the Byte

namaste

Raphael

MythMath

07-10-2008, 04:05 PM

My intuitive lead journey these past 4 years was based
on following a path of 'strings' related to the number 4.

Hey Ra,

(Re: Rodin, etc.) You should check back on the
previous pages on this thread, especially Page 4... ;)

Raphael

07-10-2008, 09:48 PM

Hey Ra,

(Re: Rodin, etc.) You should check back on the
previous pages on this thread, especially Page 4... ;)

And of course there was yet another clue...waiting on page 4 of this thread.
Life has been like that for some time now.
And then after reading that page the first book I picked up provided a link to those videos on page 4.
Time to compose a post.

Marko Rodin and mi are on the same wavelength.
Without a doubt.

namaste

Ra

Raphael

07-14-2008, 10:03 AM

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Hexagon37tonesYantra432000.gif

McClain Yantra for 432,000. Only this yantra can yield a hexagonal region where tones and their reciprocals co-incide. The hexagon has 37 tones because 37 is a hexagonal number, viz chapter 10 and the cube of Metatron.
[from p 90 of Meditations on the Koran by Earnest McClain, Nicolas-Hays, Ney York, 1981]

MM here is another template that the Wiz pointed out to me...though he did not know I would be yakking to you...
:mad:
That image above was taken from this site.
http://www.sacrednumber.co.uk/journal/2008/3/24/the-kaaba-the-cube-that-isnt-a-cube.html

But a little more investigation re: the image and the author 'E. McClain' reveals the following info...
http://books.google.ca/books?id=vAfBrK678_kC&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=McClain+Yantra+432&source=web&ots=B4x5a0BBmZ&sig=doRewK0VR3eE6TaBvclOJ_uKKe4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA79,M1
http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/docs80s/84nsetsx/x07.php

...a trail worth following...
IMHO
...on my way out the door, must git to the bookstore...race ya!!!
:yes:

namaste

MythMath

07-14-2008, 07:17 PM

MM here is another template that the Wiz pointed out to me...though he did not know I would be yakking to you... :mad:

Ohh, he knew... :yes:;)

Raphael

07-15-2008, 08:44 AM

Hey Ra,

(Re: Rodin, etc.) You should check back on the
previous pages on this thread, especially Page 4... ;)

And what did I find on page 4 of this thread MM?
You must realize by now that not much about the number 4 escapes mi?

Nine Lives

YouTube - Vedic Math 9 Point Circle: Why is 9 ~ 0? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1e77lRRjk&feature=related)

In this video posted the presenter is struggling somewhat with how she 'sees' things...another example of people struggling to express their inner visions.
Visions that are the result of dusting off the cobwebs inside our attics, revealing lost treasures of a bygone era.
Bygone does not mean the truth has left the building.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/9PythagoreanandModularBase9.jpg

Now had that woman used this graph to assist her in her lecture, we could be having tea with our Pi...

But I found the Marko Rodin video far more fascinating.
Tingle tingle more truth chills....
...the entire illusion that is projected is based on 3 colors.

:juggle:

RGB

Red
Green
Blue

The Grand Alchemist juggles those colors.
The Grand or Great Alchemist does the Great Work and I think it may take a Great Year to accomplish.
Sounds great eh?
The universal alchemy process is very much like juggling.

The LEFT and RIGHT hands of the juggler/fool, representing the oscillations necessary to create vibrations, using the electro-magnetic forces (and the universe is in fact ruled by what physicists call the right hand rule, but I want to suggest that sometimes in other epochs it would be the left hand rule that rules, i.e. Catal Hoyuk and maybe Egypt and the Maya.
In fact, evolution, change, and reversal, all 3 Laws of the I Ching are thus satisfied using the forces of electro-magnetism that embrace us...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/EMFieldisaSpider.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/sun_earthelectromaneticfields.gif

The Matrix ... the Web ... the Grid ... on yet another archetypal level.
And if you like to play with 7 Russian dolls, can I suggest you will find the same 'archetypal' structure within the human body.
The web of Maya the Spider is the Electro-Magnetic Field of Dreams and Nightmares created...so we can play.
field EM = ME field
:cool:

3 Laws of the I Ching (or the Chinese Trinity)
Evolution
Change
and
Law of Enantiodromia or Reversel in eXtremis.

And how does this concept or the 3rd Law of the I Ching mesh with the Rodin Coil and the Tarot and Precession?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/enneatruth_anim.gif

Reversel in eXtremis and the Enneagram
IMHO is of great importance as we approach 2012.

Red and White are two of the colors of alchemy ... signaling change, a metamorphiSiS.
Psst if you reverse one S of the SS = S2 = intertwine the double helix = 8 and then place the staff of Thoth/Hermes/MoSeS through it, you now have the caduceus / caduZeuS.
suggesting further that iSiS = moSeS ... because we know for a fact that SS = Holy Spirit
And we also know that iSiS = Mary, but does Mary or the feminine sacred = the Holy Spirit?
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/dna.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/barberpole10.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/asistubetorus.gif

We live in an archetypal world.
TIME to acknowledge that long ago, somebody/thing/one decided to turn archetypes into self-serving ARKetypes used to...
...keep a belief afloat, after the deluge first diluted, and then deluded humanity.

What if?
More about Marko's video on the next post.

Here is where I do my best thinking and connecting with the world.
I need to git out to the garden, to mi roses and lilies.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/IMG_4905.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/garden2008frontofhousewithroses.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/garden2008backwithmist.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/garden2008backdeck.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/garden2008back.jpg

Mi Garden mi asymmetrical chiral hands fashioned in conjunction with mi asymmetrical brain...
A reflection or projection of mi mi-nd?

namaste

Ra

MythMath

07-17-2008, 05:29 AM

Original image deleted, please refer to post #104

Raphael

07-17-2008, 08:40 AM

36-tone Hex Array

http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/th_36pointsonhexgridv2copy.jpg

http://forums.abrahadabra.com/picture.php?albumid=8&pictureid=170

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Hexagon37tonesYantra432000.gif

McClain Yantra for 432,000. Only this yantra can yield a hexagonal region where tones and their reciprocals co-incide. The hexagon has 37 tones because 37 is a hexagonal number, viz chapter 10 and the cube of Metatron.
[from p 90 of Meditations on the Koran by Earnest McClain, Nicolas-Hays, Ney York, 1981]

Why 432?
Interesting on another forum they are discussing 432 hz. and 440 hz.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322096/pg40
The Original Solfeggio

1. Ut - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La -0 biireatum

The Earlier Modified Solfeggio

1. Ut - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La - biireatum
7. SI - Sancto Iohannes

The Current Modified Solfeggio

1. Do - queant laxis
2. Re - sonare fibris
3. Mi - ra gestorum
4. Fa - muli tuorum
5. Sol - ve polluti
6. La - biireatum
7. TI - Sancto Iohannes

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatMirror.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Great MIRROR....

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatStarGuide.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Great Star Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatGuide.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Great Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesChartoftheSpirits.jpg

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Chart of the Spirits

Zoroaster was no slouch...

4 Yugas
4 Ages
4 Oracles
4 Gospels

and only 4 Mayan Codices remain!!!

These are NOT coincidences.
We should try to match those 37 frequencies to the above ancient wisdom.
Starting with those 7 notes that run horizontal across the center of the grid.

F C G D A E B = ?

If you want to go deeper down the hole here is a clue.
IMHO

namaste

Raphael

MythMath

07-18-2008, 12:29 AM

Here's a revised take on the...

36-tone Hex Array

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/36pointsonhexgridv2copy.jpg

18 Mirror One Frequencies:

6 white tones = 3330
6 grey tones = 3330
6 black tones = 3330

18 Mirror Two Frequencies:

6 blue tones = 3330
6 red tones = 3330
6 yellow tones = 3330

Additional Alignments:

6 tones on inner orange hexring = 3330
12 tones on middle green hexring = 6660
18 tones on outer purple hexring = 9990

Arithmetic Mean Frequency:

555(hz)

MythMath

07-18-2008, 12:45 AM

We should try to match those 37 frequencies to the above ancient wisdom.
Starting with those 7 notes that run horizontal across the center of the grid.

F C G D A E B = ?

If you want to go deeper down the hole here is a clue.
IMHO

Even with the one you provided, I still don't have a clue how to
consolidate these various Hex Arrays with the Zoro Mirror/Oracles... :confused:

I really don't even think that trying to match these numerical
frequencies (hertz) with the common 'letter scale' of current
Western notation (A, B, C, D, E, F, G) is possible or advisable... :no:

MythMath

07-18-2008, 02:50 AM

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Great Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatGuide.jpg

This one is interesting, in that there appears to be a 'typo'...
__________________

First, the center hex and the 'inner hexring' are numbered
1 through 7, and are labeled with the astronomical signs for the
'planets of antiquity' and are in the days-of-the-week sequence:

Sol - Sunday
Luna - Monday
Mars - Tuesday
Mercury - Wednesday
Jupiter - Thursday
Venus - Friday
Saturn - Saturday

Next, the 'middle hexring' features the 12 astrological symbols of the zodiac
in sequential order, but are also numbered in series with the factors of 7...

This is where the 'typo' occurs; in the second house, Taurus (torus?),
the number should read 14, but instead the number is 15 (15=IS=ISIS?)...

Finally, the 'outer hexring' is numbered sequentially,
1 through 18, in a similar counter-clockwise manner...

__________________

Other symbols visible: (http://ajlambert.com/cemetery/cmty_ts.pdf)

CLOUDS: The divine abode or heaven, vehicle of Christ

SUN SHINING: Life everlasting

TRUMPET: Announcement of the resurrection or the soul’s entrance into heaven

STAR, SIX POINTED: The God

SCYTHE: Death, cutting life short, the final harvest

HOURGLASS: Swift passage of time, temperance

SKULL: Death, sin, transitory nature of earthly life, penitence, mortality

LAMP: Stands for knowledge & the immortality of the Spirit.

BOOK, OPENED: The embodiment of Faith

(Seven tabbed page markers are shown)

MythMath

07-18-2008, 07:12 AM

Another thing that I noticed...

If the center hex (value: 1) is added to the number of hexes
in each of the three hexrings, the resulting totals are:

1+6=7

1+12=13

1+18=19
_________________

Separated from one another by the value of six,
here are the significant major arcana cards:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/666TAROT.jpg
Magus/God................Chariot/Merkabah..............Death/Death........................Sun/Life..

Raphael

07-18-2008, 08:34 AM

Even with the one you provided, I still don't have a clue how to
consolidate these various Hex Arrays with the Zoro Mirror/Oracles... :confused:

I really don't even think that trying to match these numerical
frequencies (hertz) with the common 'letter scale' of current
Western notation (A, B, C, D, E, F, G) is possible or advisable... :no:

...matching up the sounds with the planets and astrological signs / sines? would be helpful.
:confused:

....any Arabic alchemists on this website?
....it seems 'born-again christian' science...in its efforts to shed some light before, during and after the dark ages ... took a few wrong turns in the labryinth.

As a matter of fact .... science since 1957 is still plodding ahead, without an agreed upon Standard Model.

But I feel strongly that we can penetrate deeper than science / religion each have by themselves ... if we apply the archetypal knowledge that permeates the 'creation' we inhabit and interact with.

In some ways I think and feel we have already surpassed both.
THEY, science and religion are not aware of the metaphysical rumblings that are profoundly responsible for dividing these seemingly irreconcilable twins. Science/religion, alchemy/chemistry, astrology/astronomy are examples of asymmetrical twins separated at birth.

namaste

Ra

Raphael

07-18-2008, 10:26 AM

Zoroaster's Oracle ... The Great Guide

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ZoroastersOraclesGreatGuide.jpg

This one is interesting, in that there appears to be a 'typo'...

typo?
you and mi both know it would be a clue that the other ewe, who have not herd, and thus might overlook...

(there is a definite reason sheep/lamb/goats are symbolized, used as archetypes)

First, the center hex and the 'inner hexring' are numbered
1 through 7, and ....

Next, the 'middle hexring' features the 12 astrological symbols of the zodiac
in sequential order, but are also numbered in series with the factors of 7...

1-7 hexs apparently represent the ancient solar system (seen with the naked eye solar system) and the middle hex has the 12 astrological signs/sines that sit on the ecliptic.

Finally, the 'outer hexring' is numbered sequentially,
1 through 18, in a similar counter-clockwise manner...

But because the 2nd ring represents Precession...and precession means to precess or go backward...we soon realize that ring moves clockwise...unless we view it's mirror or mi-ra image.

Then the correct order according to the cycle of precession implies the following.
i.e.
Aries 7 >>> Pisces 84 >>> the age of is Aquarius 77
(IMHO we entered Aquarius in 1934)

So the obvious question arises.
If the inner hexagon (1) and the 1st ring (2-7), together represent the naked eye solar system and the 2nd hex ring represents the 12 houses that sit on the ecliptic...

What do the 18 hexagons on the 3rd ring symbolize?

Drunavalo M. might respond that they correlate to the...
...18 cosmic breaths?
And then Drunvalo would offer you a course on how to breath properly.
This is where the ancient knowledge goes from I-Ching to Cha-Ching.
:laugh:
Maybe those 18 hexagons represent the original 6, later expanded to 18 Solfeggio frequencies?

This is where the 'typo' occurs; in the second house, Taurus (torus?),
the number should read 14, but instead the number is 15 (15=IS=ISIS?)...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/JesusIesusSalvatorFleur-de-lysoflig.jpg

Look at no. 536
Holy $ Grail Batman

$ = jeSuS = IS = iSh

Egyptian for light is 'iSh'

And it is important to show how iSh became jeSuS and associated with light.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/60508145_bd4950d3a1.jpg?v=1161787921

Familiar with the Christian monogram for Jesus?
iSh later became the christian monogram ... IHS

IHS also forms a 3x3 matrix ... resembling what?
Lu Shu

Thus in modern science the archetype of ... ish ish or iSiS would maybe translate to or be implying the 2 ways that light travels?

What if the ancient KA and BA are the Wave and Particle identified but recorded as archetype, relative to human form?

what if Ka Ba = wave particle?

In many ancient Egyptian texts, Isis is one of the Ennead, or group of nine gods and goddesses involved in the origins of all things.The Ennead?
Part of a group of nine?
Would the enneagram be something they were aware of?

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/educational_site/uscarc/isis.jpg
http://astrologysector.com/images/stories/taurus.gifhttp://g.astrology.com/course/beginners_astrology/AC-0568.jpg

Taurus Torah Torus
Does the symbol for iSiS resemble the sign for Taurus?
;)

The herds of the sheeple people might respond what is ka ka and what is baa?
And I would respond careful what you step in on the path to enlightenment.

Conclusion?

In any crime, establish the motive first for the crime.
Then follow the trail of money back to the bad guys.

HIS-story = IHS story = I + H + S

Remove the H from HIS-story
what is left?

The IS story.
The story of $
Human consciousness in the 4th dimension is all about $
It is not a coincidence they share the same KEY on the qwerty keyboard.
4 = $ = cha ching**

**this however is the wrong kind of alchemy.
The journey is NOT about acquiring the material gold...
It is about unveiling the spiritual...
This path, personal alchemy, is always available to everybody...

namaste

Ra

Neshamah

07-18-2008, 05:00 PM

MythMath

07-18-2008, 09:23 PM

Human consciousness in the 4th dimension is all about $
It is not a coincidence they share the same KEY on the qwerty keyboard.
4 = $ = cha ching**

Time IS Money (http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/10/messages/570.html)... :yes:

{this is post #111}

MythMath

07-18-2008, 10:40 PM

THOTH
66
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/666TAROTV2copy.jpg

Raphael

07-19-2008, 09:32 AM

Raphael,

As I've said in another post, I really enjoy your "ramblings." However, I do have one 'bone to pick' with you.

You keep emphasizing iSiS and moSeS and the two 'S's' in these words, when the original forms of these words are quite different. In ancient Egyptian, the goddess iSiS was known as 'Aset.' And, in Hebrew, moSeS is known as 'Mosheh' ( or, literally, MShH ). In other words, iSiS and moSeS don't have much to do with each other, except in English. Am I missing something here ?

Peace.

Neshamah

disclaimer: many of my posts are more like diary entries...the info is new and current.

I thought about your question last night and as often happens these daze I awoke with a new direction. One we can both share in.
Thanks for asking me that question, it took me down another tunnel in the labryinth.:bowdown:
In the end I will need words to explain the images.
But images are worth thousands of words, and I believe we all connect on a level without the need for words.
Words can become SwordS by adding an S.

About S
iSiS or moSeS or jeSuS, it has been clear my focus is on the SS.
SS is one of those archetypes you can follow from level to level.
(another one I want to discuss later is the archetype of Atlantis ... the temple in the center surrounded by a series of concentric circles formed into canals.)

Archetypes are like that...they are like baskets we have and on each level of the matrix we can fill those archetypal baskets, that we are given (and we fill each basket with things represented by the same number).
So this would apply NOT only only different levels or dimensions, but also when visiting other countries or another culture...the archetypes are there for the picking, to fill your basket.
Hermes/Mercury/Thoth were all messengers, and what they delivered was 'archetypal' wisdom, and NOT the 'devil is in the detail' world we primarily subscribe to.

S = Serpent or snake
S = Sanctus
SS = Spiritus Sanctus or the Holy Spirit
SS = St. Peter and St. Paul
SS = Nazi Elite guard
SS = swastiKA

SSS = Sanctus Sanctus Sanctus!

...And two Ss placed perpendicular to each other or orthogonal (i.e. at right angles) form the swastiKA.
...And may I add the importance of the right angle in the 4th dimension in building empires. If no right angle knowledge existed...we could not build very high. could we?
...And how in the hell (here on earth) are we then going to build a ziggurat or a tower capable of reaching the heavens, without the right angle?
...And math is the only language that ALL men speak, it is the only language fulfilling the role prophecy suggests in bringing humanity together in building Towers of Babel.

To understand space you must understand triangulation or GPS...God's Positioning Satelitte helps keep track of us?

I went looking for the archetype SS in science...in religion it had become clear to me that there existed on an archetypal level a more profound unifying meaning for the letter S, SS or SSS.
Because SS represented both the Holy Spirit and the two saints St. Peter and St.Paul, and the two SS found in the swastika (orthogonal to each other) and the importance of the right angle triangle in helping to define and measure space and locate any object given three axis, x, y and z, suggested to me I should follow this trail.

In science the two electromagnetic waves are 'orthogonal or perpendicular to each other' and they resemble primarily an S (wavy) or Z (zig zag) shape when grap