Reinstatement Policy...

[m1thr0s]

On rare occasions I will allow banned members to be reinstated where I happen to think that their personal commitment to occult philosophy, magick, hermeticism, whatever form it takes, is real enough and prevalent enough to warrant it.

This may be an unpopular decision in some instances and I am aware of that and do try to take people's feelings into account but this site has a commitment to a broader sort of work and when people further that work through their random insights and personal contributions then I have to give that a lot of weight.

There is no controlling this from the outside. I review the banned list periodically and consider things in hindsight. Occasionally I will reinstate someone who may have been banned for perfectly legitimate reasons at the time.

Life goes on...nobody remains at the same exact place forever so in some cases I will decide it best to give some banned members another crack at it.

transmission out.

m1thr0s

[Frater SI]

M1 if you are talking about who I think you are, nudge nudge wink wink. Its good to have them back.

[m1thr0s]

yeah, I think so too, but also this might apply to others on a case-by-case basis. So it isn't just about one or even just a few people...as we go along here I am trying to make my way of doing things as transparent as possible...

This site will be changing though...changes will happen and hopefully most of them will be good ones. Some experiments bomb out...others take off pretty good. We may be spread just a little too thin around here for instance...you can't please "all of the people all of the time" etc... and it seems to confuse things even to try...

anyway...I'll keep everybody posted on such stuff...

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

It has merit in my eyes as well, people and situations change - if not for that fact we wouldn't be doing the quantum dance with this species at all, there would be no point...

The difference between flexibility and rigidness is the difference between compassion and totalitarianism. And to be clear; not judging these on morally or neccessarily socially based perpectives - although they do come under the umbrella, they are more limited views - but on universal grounds. If we cannot "look through anothers eyes" or " walk in their shoes" perhaps, we do not have the capacity to connect with them at a level of soul - de facto - which is of course indicitive of any of our connections to other beings of any type.

On an individual basis, it is always a judgment call. ahhhh, but there's the rub-

How to judge, without being judgemental?

De facto...

~D~

[fr.novumorganum]

I think, too, this represents the deep commitment many of us here have to the Great Work.

On the one hand, we honor this critical task by broking no bull-shit; but on the other, we know the purpose of the great work is to transform humanity.

If we don't believe people can change, we might as well all go get bibles and vote republican:eek:

[deviadah]

Some people need to be banned just to get their act together!

If a banned member is allowed back in and still behave in a way that is annoying then you can just ban them again... so I don't see a problem at all.

:cool:

[m1thr0s]

you almost disappoint me d!
I was counting on you to call me a wiffle-waffler! :laugh:

no matter...flexibility is not an option in this game...it's the only way to stay ahead of the curve at all...

m1thr0s

[deviadah]

Well... this thread caught me in my Buddha-mood (which I am in about 50% of the time)... had I been in my Vlad Tepes-mood I would probably have called you that!

:cool:

[Anibis]

Sounds like a good plan. We are all works in progress, after all. It would be foolish to consider otherwise. Eternal reccurrance and everything.... Hoor Ra!
-Anibis

[Anibis]

Don't think deviadah was attacking you Naomi. Maybe it was a lighthearted joke on the whole thing of reinstatement. I think this whole issue of banning has been misinterpreted. Abrahadabra is a document authored by a community of folk. There is an aesthetic balance to be maintained. Posting priviledges are granted to user who respect and the integrity of, and assist to co-author the document. People are changeable and so are policies. Nothing is personal in these matters but rather practical in essence. Bad faith is the only way to go wrong here. Anyway, not sure what this is all about, but doing damage control. Both of you are valuable members. Cheers,

-Anibis

[m1thr0s]

Yeah I change my mind... did money have a part with the decision?

I'm in a mood!nope...but I should probably leave that door open just in case.
If any banned members would like to buy me, say, a neat little cottage on a quaint little island someplace...

I'll need the whole island though...I take up a lot of space...hehe...

edit: for the record, Naomi isn't the first person to have been unbanned by me, she is just the most recent.
How do you think I came by my Lear Jet? :laugh:

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

So up till now we're all okay. Don't think any of this angry shit is necessary. I Salute you all and say:
"Yo, Chill."

-Anibis

YouTube - Kim Mitchell - Go For A Soda

[fr.novumorganum]

well if none of us have anytime for this drama, why is it taking up space on these forums?

i have deleted the bullshit, and will delete the bullshit as it pops up.

AF is not the place for whatever flame wars from OTHER boards your egos seem to desire.

[deviadah]

Abrahadabra is a document authored by a community of folk. There is an aesthetic balance to be maintained. Posting priviledges are granted to user who respect and the integrity of, and assist to co-author the document. People are changeable and so are policies. Nothing is personal in these matters but rather practical in essence. Bad faith is the only way to go wrong here.
This should be AF slogan!

:cool:

[Anibis]

:oExcept for the grammer mistakes...
-An

[Kuroyagi]

All in all I like that policy a lot, it again fits well to the theme of change and transmutation of this forum...posters who turn into supporters who get banned (yet still could support nonetheless), who again become reinstated...Thumbs up, there!

[Naomi]

I think it's a great idea.

[Anibis]

Fine policy. Hope it works.
-An

[Naomi]

Whatever could you mean Anibis?

[Anibis]

What I said.
-A-

[Kuroyagi]

How about banning members for a certain period of time- like for "a week" or "for a month" etc? I saw that on other boards and it seems to be efficient...after having been banned either they have cooled off a bit or they don't return anymore...

[sock]

^^

Seen that work quite well on other boards fwiw. Trouble is these days with proxy software, you can't be sure someone hasn't already got a fake IP and is posting anyway. The general principle seems to work only if the people invovled have some kind of 'ethics'.

[Frater CaO]

Im all for change in whatever form it may take. :) So I think this is all good.
Sure you could ban them for a temporary time to let them "cool off" etc, but Im not sure its useful.. as Sock says, there is always proxys etc that can be used. So I dont know either way when it comes to temp bans...

Letting people back in is positive anyway, all change is positive imo, even change that bring about negative effects.. cause change is absolutely necessery all the time. How else can we learn anything really?