Any fellow Demonolators here?

[tezrian]

I was wondering if there are any other Demonolators here on this forum. :-)

I also thought I'd post some interesting links for those who may be new to Demonolatry.

http://www.ofs-demonolatry.org/
http://www.lulu.com/demonolatry
http://www.lulu.com/demonolatry2 (my books)

Tezrian

[Ðanisty]

Do you consider theistic Luciferianism as demonolatry?

[tezrian]

Danisty,

Actually, no, we do not see theistic Luciferianism as the same thing as Demonolatry. They are quite different. However, we welcome all types of theistic Satanism. We see you as fellow brethren.

If you have any specific questions about the differences between theistic Luciferianism and Demonolatry, I'd be happy to answer them.

Tezrian

[Ðanisty]

Danisty,

Actually, no, we do not see theistic Luciferianism as the same thing as Demonolatry. They are quite different. However, we welcome all types of theistic Satanism. We see you as fellow brethren.

If you have any specific questions about the differences between theistic Luciferianism and Demonolatry, I'd be happy to answer them.

TezrianI would think that the difference is that theist Luciferianism is a belief and demonolatry is a method or practice. I wouldn't think they are mutually exclusive...not that I've ever called myself a demonolatress or anything.

[tezrian]

Greetings,

Demonolatry is a religion and a belief, it is far more than a method or practice. Here is part of what Demonolatry is all about:

1. Demonolatry is a form of Hermeticism. We believe that our religion possibly had its basis in Egypt.

2. Since Demonolatry is Hermetic, we believe that Satan is the Whole of All things, the source to which all flows. However, Satan is not usually our patron/matron Demon, but he does rank high in Demonolatry.

3. Demonolators pick a patron/matron Demon. This can be Satan, but most of us pick another Demon in which calls to us, and we feel close to and can relate to. For instance, my patron is Leviathan.

4. We NEVER evoke or 'summon' Demons. This is seen as disrespectful and just plain stupid. We invoke Demons in a balanced ritual circle. Not the same kind of circle that other traditions use.

5. We invoke the Demons with specialized invocations known as enns. These are in an unknown language. The term 'enn' was first coined in 1585 by Alexander Wilit.

6. Demonolatry is structured. We do things in a methodical way. We have family 'sects' or covens - like other traditions. However, not all of us belong to a sect, but many of us do. Family sects are difficult to get into, you usually have to be related to the family in some way. Within a sect, there are High Priest/esses, Assisting Priest/esses, Adepts, Initiates, and students. To earn a High Priesthood title, you must either have been born into Demonolatry (generational) or have been practicing for quite a few years. Some sects do not let non-generational Demonolators become Priesthood. It all depends. The title must be earned either way with hard work.

7. Demonolatry has specific holy days:
-The Rite to Lucifer - March 21
-The First Rite to Leviathan - May 1st/2nd
-The Rite to Flereous - June 21
-The Second Rite to Leviathan - September 21
-The Rite to Eurynomous - October 31
-The Second Rite to Lucifer - November 13
-The Rite to Belial - December 21

8. Most Demonolators use magic, some do not. It is a personal preference.

9. We make offerings to the Demons on a regular basis. This can be blood, oleums, incenses, wine, and parchment sigils which are burned.

10. Meditation and prayer are very important. Self-development and knowledge is the most important aspect of Demonolatry. It is about discovery of the self, the soul, and the world.

11. Most Demonolators are very regular people, oftentimes, you cannot tell who is one and who is not. We do not wear black all of the time nor do we wear gothic makeup. I'm not saying that all other forms of Satanism do this, but we realize that this is a far-reaching trend amongst some people. Sorry if that sounds kind of rude. :-)

Anyway, this is some of what Demonolatry is about. If anyone has any more questions, feel free to ask.

Tezrian

[m1thr0s]

That's very helpful indeed Tezrian! I am actually fairly boiling over with questions for you actually but will contain things to a few at a time...

1. Is there any kind of relationship between demonolatry and qliphoth? It seems to me as though there would have to be.

2. Demonolatry probably sounds (to most people) like Angelic Magick in reverse. Are you able to explain what the point is of working with demonic forces?

3. Egypt is significantly older than the Christian model of Satan. Have you been able to identify what the Egyptian equivalent of Satan would have been?

thanks in advance,

m1thr0s

[tezrian]

Greetings,

Question 1 - I'm not too sure what the relationship between the Qlippoth and Demonolatry is since it's not my specialty, but I will ask my friend about it. I know that some Demonolators do work with it. I will post this information when I get an answer from my friend. :)

Question 2 - It's definitely not angelic magic in reverse. In fact, Demonolatry as largely just worship and reverence of the Demons, magic isn't always performed. We see Demons as the same as angels, just with different names. The word Demon means "replete with wisdom." At any rate, the point of working with Demons is the wisdom and power they impart to us. By respecting them and worshipping them, we receive balance and a great sense of happiness and love. I know it sounds 'fluffy' but Demons are neither dark nor light. They are shades of grey.

Question 3 - The Egyptian equivelent to Satan is Atum. I recommend "The Hermetica: The Lost Wisdom of the Pharohs," by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy. This book is wonderful when it comes to describing the Whole of All things, Satan or Atum. To us, Satan does not represent the adversary - he is the All. We are a part of Him, as he is a part of us. The Demons are equal to us, not lower, not higher.

I hope this is a good explaination!

Tezrian

[tezrian]

Greetings,

I guess I was wrong about the qlippoth being used in Demonolatry. I wasn't sure. Here is what my friend said:


We don't believe in God and Angels so really, the Qlippoth
to us is just the Tree of Life - different Demons. The Qlippoth Demons are
simply a different "hierarchy". Nothing more. We don't use the "Tree of
Death" anyway because that is a recent invention by Christian Magicians for
use exclusively with Jehovah Magick.

We don't really use it because it's not relevant to our path.

I failed to mention the Nine Demonic Divinities in my last post.
We believe in these Divinities as follows: Belial - Earth, Lucifer - Air,
Leviathan - Water, Flereous - Fire, Satan - The Whole, Verrine - Positive
Polarity, Amducious - Negative polarity, Unsere - Life, Eurynomous - Death.

For more information on this, I recommend reading this: http://www.ofs-demonolatry.org/blackserpent.htm
Go to the PDF file.

Tezrian

[m1thr0s]

Thanks Tezrian...I'm not that familiar with Qliphoth either so it was just an idle curiosity. I see that the system you are using does make a lot of use of the Tree of Life though, and this I do know more about...

I'm not so sure that the Tree of Death and the original Qliphoth are really the same thing at all, though they are commonly understood to be the same. I'm still trying to sort all of that out.

Thanks for your information...

m1thr0s

[tezrian]

No problem. :) I like helping out and teaching other people.

Tezrian

[Ðanisty]

It sounds far to organized for me...lol. I'm curious how you came up with the holidays though.

[tezrian]

Well, since Demonolatry has been around for many centuries (with proof from family grimiores) these holy days weren't made up by any one person. They are elementally correct (such as the Rite to Flereous on the Summer Solstice - a Fire elemental Demon and a Fire festival) and have been written about for at least 500 years. They have probably been around longer than this, but of course, not everyone could write back then. :)

Tezrian

[Ðanisty]

Certainly, but what exactly makes these dates special for each specific demon you're celebrating. For instance, why do you have a holiday in March for Lucifer? I can't even think of anything interesting that happens in March.

[tezrian]

In March, Spring begins. Lucifer represents to us, enlightenment and new beginnings as does Spring. I'm not sure where these holy days originated but most of them have something to do with nature. Obviously, since Eurynomous is our Death Demon, we celebrate him on Halloween. I suggest reading the Demonolatry Primer at OFS Demonolatry.com. It explains the significance of the holy days better than I can.

Tezrian

[Ðanisty]

I'll check it out...thanks.

[Okazaki Castle]

Well, sort of... Anybody remember Devil's Delight, aka Kranberry, aka Jordyn on Darkforums? Well, check out her soul essence...

Likewise I often go to the hell planes simply to hang out with some of the more inventive and pretty of female demonkind, it's always fun and pleasingly intense...

Other than the Temple of Venus approach to some female demons though (the especially pretty and competent ones who as such are worthy of worship in some way), no, I don't practice the worship of demonic forces in any way, as likewise I don't worship anything or anyone external to my self in any way (save in the sense in which you worship wine, women and stuff like that). That would be allowing that those worshipped were superior to you in some essential way, a factor I have never seen any significant, or even minor, evidence for...

Okazaki Castle.

[Sibylle]

Thanks for those links and info, tezrian. I like that demon dictionary, good reference.