Unintended consequences?

[Radiant Star]

Unintended consequences

Anyone want to share any funny or scary happenings that you truly believe were due to unintended consequences of a magickal working? say because you didn’t banish an entity properly? Or because you got tools or symbols mixed up or for some other reason?

[Kain]

OK, here's one...this one happened about 3 years ago.

It was a spring afternoon and I was in my "practice room", excercising energy manipulation. I was experimenting on optimizing energy field (binary) constitution ratios in regards to most effective telekinesis, as I find it a good indicator for testing energy constructs' potency, and I was working with the basic (and very popular) pinwheel excercise (where one puts a wheel-shaped object usually made of paper or foil on a needle to nulify the gravity force and attempts to rotate it. This is usually conducted under a transparent container to prevent air currents from affecting the object). I was also experimenting on various techniques of establishing a link with the object in question, mainly utilizing various energy densities. The subtler the subject matter however, the more easily it transcends 3-dimensional space as I soon found out...

Having worked on an energy buildup to initiate the excercise in question, a minute or so after I begin I get interrupted by my brother who frantically asks me to follow him so he can show me something. I stop the excercise and do so, following him around the corridor and into the living room which lies on the other side of my wall:
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The blue dot is where I was conducting my excercise. Now on the red dot, there was a vase on a table, with a small branch of of an almond tree which was cut by a strong wind the day before, just before actually coming to bloom. The buds had never opened, and from the look of it, they never would although the "life"/growth buidup of the branch was certainly at it's highest level at the point it got severed from the tree.

Some buds had fallen off the branch and were lying on the floor, and to my amazement one of the buds was actually making jumps on the spot with about 1-2 second intervals! The jumps where at least 12 inches high. We actually watched it doing this for about 15 minutes, until it's vitality all the more dwindled until it only trembled and eventually stopped even that. After a thorough examination of the bud, I found out it was indeed not open so no insect could have gone inside it. I made the experiment of building up energy in it's immediate presence and it begun jumping on the spot again, apparently abusing a sort of link with my field(?). I am not sure if this was done due to an overexpansion of mine or by a desperate attempt of the bud to "live", however it kept readily responding to energy buildups for the rest of the month or so, even ones absolutely not directed to it in any way, utilizing them for making on-the-spot jumps, until after the month passed it was so dry it only slightly trembled, eventually stopping it's interraction altogether.

It's been a very interesting and completely unintended occurance that I will probably always remember due to it's peculiarity, although it did teach me some things concerning the possible extent of one's workspace...hehe...

Kain

[m1thr0s]

My story is a little like Kain's I think...

I've had a lot of unusual things happen, usually in conjunction with energy field work of some kind, but one of the few that still baffles me the most happened many years ago during a fairly usual energy session. I run these sessions fairly sparse...clean room...table, candles, focusing tool (talisman, crystal, mirror etc), some kind of music source (often just my guitar etc) whatever notes I might require and a pen and that's pretty much it. fairly *zen* really...

Usual theme...hexagrammal fields experiment and on this occasion I was trying out a new Tree arrangement I had just hit upon. I almost always prefer to work with some kind of catalyst so we can all blame drugs if we want to, but I know how to handle myself and my habits. Lit candles and went to work around 10PM building energy fields in prearranged patterns. I always have extra candles on hand and I usually work with black tapers when I can get them. On this occasion I could not and had to make do with 4-hour emergency candles...low quality wax but the wicks were thick so the light was ok.

Got very involved in the fields and lost track of time and soon noticed that the sun was coming up which for me usually indicates a wrap on the nite's session. And then it hit me...the four hour candles I had lit at 10PM the following nite were still burning brightly and had actually only burned about half way down in somewhere close to 9 hours. At the time I thought, wow, great value on these puppies...have to get some more and so the next day I went out and bought about 4 packages of them just to have in spare. I still had 2 whole candles left from the 4-candle pack I started with so about a week later I ran another session using the remaining candles and sure enough, they burned down to the nub in about 3.5 hours...

So did every other candle in all the other packages. So some kind of energy transfer must have occured but why did it not occur again under nearly identical circumstances? That I still don't completely understand although I sometimes think we progress more through quatum steps than linear ones and on this one evening, for whatever reason, it was essential that I jump ahead of myself in some way...kind of letting me know that I was pointed in the right direction I think.

But I still don't know the exact reasoning behind it...there might have been other factors I don't typically weigh in for instance...where the moon at was or the planets or some other variables, so I really still just don't have a definite explanation for it.

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

We get a lot of unusual things happen here, lets put it this way, my daughter always knows I have been magicking because she will see, hear or notice something odd. My son on the other hand thinks its all a load of nonsense and believes nothing.

My recent incident was after I had evoked a couple of entities I found in Bardon, or tried to, they didn’t appear in any way, either heard, or seen or felt, but I wasn’t discouraged as long as they helped in my mission, I was prepared to let that go.

Some days later, I was sat in my chair musing and I ‘saw’ an odd looking little entity, I hadn’t summoned anything that day, so I told it to go, it remained there and simply wouldn’t go; I even got my dragon to try to get it to leave, but god, it was stubborn and I didn’t want bloodshed, so I left it to go in its own time and ignored it. I didn’t consider banishing because I hadn’t been doing anything in particular that day and I told myself it was all in my mind. I forgot about it in fact.

At one point, my daughter came down and told me that the kettle in the room next door to mine had turned itself on an off once or twice and asked if I had been up to anything, I replied that no, not that day I hadn’t. Now I knew that if this kettle really had boiled by itself, there was a reasonable and logical explanation, like the switch got stuck or something, so I took no notice and thought she was teasing me.

That weekend, I started to spring clean the kitchen; I emptied cupboards, rearranged things and knew I had to tackle the dust on top of the wall units. I had cleaned two lengths and was on the last one - the row above the kettle. I began to take things from the top, as I got down from the chair with both hands full, the kettle turned itself off; now I am forgetful, so I just thought that I had turned it on before I got up onto the chair and it had boiled by the time I had wiped the tops and taken some things down to put them elsewhere.

It was only when my totally disbelieving son came in a day or so later with a strange look on his face that I took notice, he told me that the kettle had just boiled and he hadn’t touched it. I acknowledged the presence of the entity and after that I never saw him again neither did the kettle ever boil itself again. I also remembered that I had done a working a few days before it appeared and hadn’t banished in a formal way.

[Amur]

Had it happen a few times that I was just about to establish a magickal link, everything went perfect, the vibration and feeling and time was just perfect, but then when I searched for the key-object, it was nowhere to be found as the place was too messy. In the end I've gotten 4 different persons to come to my apartment to show me than a mess is not good for me. The last person came from Korea to show it. Obviously I'm quite embarrassed by it all.

[Amur]

Got very involved in the fields and lost track of time and soon noticed that the sun was coming up which for me usually indicates a wrap on the nite's session. And then it hit me...the four hour candles I had lit at 10PM the following nite were still burning brightly and had actually only burned about half way down in somewhere close to 9 hours. At the time I thought, wow, great value on these puppies...have to get some more and so the next day I went out and bought about 4 packages of them just to have in spare. I still had 2 whole candles left from the 4-candle pack I started with so about a week later I ran another session using the remaining candles and sure enough, they burned down to the nub in about 3.5 hours...


There might be another explanation to why it happened. There are times when a very powerful 'time-synchronicity' has happened, where different events culminates into one singularity point. Various objects can travel from all over the world, and universe just to reach that one point in time for that one experiment to be done. I have no idea why this happens, or how but I just know that it happens. In this sense it might be that the candles you were using had somekind of varying manufacturing, causing it to burn much slower. The candles in themselves were already pre-destined to be found by you and so on. I believe that the chinese fortune cookies work with the same principle. Found a Taoists description of eternity, which seemed to fit this event quite well, but unfortunately can't remember it. Have to dig it up from the book sometime. Went something like "Eternity needeth not move for it is eternal". Although it was more beautifully said.

[m1thr0s]

Could be Amur...in a sense though, there is an even simpler answer than this and that's just that life is ultimately a great mystery. We may never solve all of it all of the time and would probably puke ourselves to death even if we did because we need that mysterious part of life...it actually keeps us alive...keeps us interested and so on. True enough there will always be things we must resolve but there may also be things we really just need to learn to experience and appreciate...

Necessity itself may be the best guide to knowing when one thing applies against the other. In the case of the 9-hour candles, I have to stop and ask myself, do I really need to know the answer? Is it going to stop world hunger or light my ass up like a Christmas tree to know the answer? And in either case I think the answer is no...not really. So maybe it's just one of those things to be marveled at and remembered...

m1thr0s

[Amur]

Necessity itself may be the best guide to knowing when one thing applies against the other. In the case of the 9-hour candles, I have to stop and ask myself, do I really need to know the answer? Is it going to stop world hunger or light my ass up like a Christmas tree to know the answer? And in either case I think the answer is no...not really. So maybe it's just one of those things to be marveled at and remembered...

m1thr0s

Lol. Thanks, that solved a bunch of things for this experience-wh0re. Guess some things just need to click from the outside. A bit disturbing piece of the puzzle in my own humble opinion.
In a sense, the more unattached one can become to the whole reality-bending-thing the further I believe one can go without crashing into some All-mighty messianic psychosis. :D

[m1thr0s]

In a sense, the more unattached one can become to the whole reality-bending-thing the further I believe one can go without crashing into some All-mighty messianic psychosis. :Dyeah...that's a really good point...mustn't be an obsessive-compulsive almighty one now...your sister (nature) has rights and priviledges as well...hehe...

m1thr0s

[chaos_mage4]

Hmmm, interesting thread Radiant Star! I haven't started practicing magick, I'm still reading up on it, not practicing yet, but will soon enough lol. Besides, I'm still only 15 lol, Anywho, I have to think about it for a little, because something has happened like this (I said I haven't started practicing magick, I've done a few spells, banishing rituals, but nothing really "serious", as in to start practicing it for the rest of my life.) and I can't really remember it right now.
Oh yes, I now remember, I know this is a bit off-topic, but here goes: When I was little, I had a lucid dream, and didn't even know it! I used the gazing technique without knowing it too. I was like eight or something, and I was watching the Flintstones that was on, and I guess I kept watching it (with my astral eyes) after I fell asleep, because I was asleep, dreaming (lucidly) and my room was the same. Exactly the same, and I got up, I remember that I couldn't control myself that well, and I fought my teddy bears in my dream. Lol, I really wish I had better memory, because I can't remember what happened after that.
Thanks,
~Christopher

[Copuldaemon]

tHAT'S fUNNY. I was talking to somebody about something similar to this where as I did a working for somebody and the unintended part was that I had suffered for in exchange for the ludicrous desire of the person I was asked to help.

[Okazaki Castle]

heck most of my life so far but espec last three-four years has just been unintended consequences: in the sense that it was other people's karma and desire patterns expressing and all i was doing was rearranging and AIKI in them. haven't even begun to live my intended path yet in the sense of my own desires and lifepath...

when i was about a year old illuminati placed a block on me using higher density tech in a hospital in Germany under kain doshi's direction i may add. sort of like: you've got wwork to do you will stay behind the scenes till it's done. so *shrugs* fought it since then and worked to break free. the modus i used to do that: keep upping the stakes till i overruled this creation and the level they accessed to do their thing thru. don't mind kain's involvement there for he is always perfect and repsonsible but i do hate him for it. he gets that, it's what we do with each other. but swore to break the lower levels who were moving from abusive self-interest there. The Hand's modus operandi: they always do an efficient job. but of course you can always find a way higher than them and kain knew i would... you see i stole his soul and spirit from him back on the eve of the battle of sekigahara sort of like a planned timeline deviation. so this lifetime only now breaking free. still nt there yet incidentally...

well it allowed me to do 'harmonize and pass thru' on the concpetion of god in this system, who didn't exist in any tangible way to most and this is where i was for most of my life in terms of 'energetic signature'. temple of venus always is present though, so i could be just base chakra easy-easy and so that's what i did... was fun in its own way much of it therefore... still working towards satisfying the urge to love i had withj a particular girl i met when 19 though. 12 year cycle so far that one... yeah i tend to think long term...

when i do get round to my intended consequences though that should be fun...

all the best
oazaki.

[Naomi]

Unintended consequences

Anyone want to share any funny or scary happenings that you truly believe were due to unintended consequences of a magickal working? say because you didn’t banish an entity properly? Or because you got tools or symbols mixed up or for some other reason?


Heh, well there was this one time I was targeting a member of the royal family of some oil nation...a sheikh.


A few months before I had designated the entire region of Australia as a full open gateway into Ash-jelly-ko...the big desert in hell that belongs to this other guy...a demon god I know.

Well he was being targeted because he had signed a blood contract ages ago that promised duties to the (extended astral) family including outside incarnations. I threaded a solar link through Saturn to him with certain parameters that would force him to either give the proper parties the help they needed and had a right to, or he would die. He had indeed agreed to play this part and he was not doing his work. That's why being rich sucks because money just has this effect...you forget about what is really important.

Well I recieved a dream a few days before of the guy I knew down in Ash-jelly-ko letting me know that the sheikh was in his territory and how he didn't appreciate me dragging the solar link down there. So the sheikh died later that week in some ritzy ditzy hotel...in Australia..

Apparently this was a bad thing.

Oh Naomi!!!!!


Whatever!!

[Amur]

Because of my stupidity and magickal workings I get threathened by many frequencies out there. It has been Eternal Hell and dying Spiritually, ceasing alltogether to exist. Shit in my pants when the Last Day thing came along with dying Spiritually. Was way too scary. 5 years left in existence. uh-oh.