Why we're going to go extinct

[Naomi]

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=&vid=fd738f08-a58f-45d4-9ac8-e1af5245d9b4

I had a vision last year with Ningishzidda that showed me what dragons do and why having sex with a dragon renews your DNA. I saw that the entire continent of Asia had been mutated because of all of these chinese shamans having sex with dragons out in the wilderness (I posted the anthropological research that documents these rituals earlier last year - all of which were markedly similar to the instinctual rituals I was performing in my backyard.) :)

Then I was like "hmm"

and then i was shown how the Western World had completely fucked themselves over by not honoring dragons and they were marked for extinction already because their DNA was steadily going to become less able to adapt to change and the natural world as it will become. - not racism, merely the family lines connected to western memes - anyone at all. Then it wears off after several generations, so the practice of ritual sacrifice (yugya) has to be upheld, such as is stated in the Bhagavad Gita, for instance.

Then I went into the future and saw that somehow China had managed to devour the entire world through the use of genetic technology.

"technology" as in real technology and not the primitive crap that passes for technology these days....

anyways just some musings, to stimulate debate...

Another thing was macrocosmically I saw certain intelligences and the dakinis trying to get a crossbreed hybrid with asians and european DNA so they could survive better.

Anyone notice the stockmarket meltdown this morning? rofl

[Darkwater]

mmmmmmm,I like Carl Sagan(deceased).I also loved the Bhagavad Gita.I'll listen to it again,see if I can find it again.

I love the chinese,they have an excellent outlook being usually cheerful,great cuisine,big gamblers which I can respect & good knife fighters & martial arts.

Maybe this is just the ones I have met laundering Triad/former communist Govt money?

Diversity is good for DNA,strength in diversity & adversity.That prediction about DNA *giving up* is a wee concern.There have always been & will always be those who cannot hack it,mainly when love is missing in their lives or they cannot accept themselves & thus cannot accept love.

Anyway,real nice articles.ty

Namaste

Andy

[Kuroyagi]

Also in connection with some latest posts here concerning money and capitalism which are then culminating into this topic of "humans will be extinct" I see one of the dilemmas we have maneuvered ourselves into to be that fiendishly dual form of production (money vs fertility), a production of products that has been mistakenly set equal with success (of the species) : the increase of money of products even beyond all use beyond all practicality and rationality even unto our own deaths and the death of life itself is propagated and furthered. But behind greed and want for power and money stands a very old instinct, an urge in our systems that compells us to strive for increase for fertility and thereby for mutipilcation of our numbers and successful survival of our species in a hostile environment: a somehow natural genetic urge that is mistakenly applied to a changed world. That is the problem: namely that this ancient cosmic compulsion for expansion is layered behind the economic drives and perverted greedy addiction to novelty and endless increase of production which is bound to fail in such a restricted environment for that it has not been "intended". We have in this respect set ourselves into a sort of checkmate position.

Yet another very human faculty is playing to our advantage- the ability to change and in its primordeal form: to mutate. Its so natural to us that we have forgotten much of it, but when one thinks about it it is strange that we can actually wear the mask of so many animals and species and be thought as one of them even by themselves. We have tried to turn humans into animals (concentration camps and slaves) and animals into humans (pets), merged them into gods and cloned hybrids and tried out this and that, so that the human can be even defined as the animal of change itself...and maybe it will come up with something that can pull it out in the last second, who knows.

[Kuroyagi]

(^So much for the mudane view)...I could imagine why to have sex with a dragon, or turning into a dragon (for boys) could rejuvenate you, absolutely!...I'll think about the other points you raised too, Naomi, China can teach a lot about mass-consciousness, the West about individuality (see: Satanism); to merge those insights could be very productive...yet in a sense that neednt be self-destructive either, I hope.

[m1thr0s]

humans were designed to go extinct...and fairly rapidly at that. The only real question is, can they do it with any degree of style...

maybe you have to be a fairly hard-core transhumanist to grok all of that but the upshot is that humans really have nowhere else to go...they either shape up and fly right or they're gonna get flushed...no third option, cuz they are just flat too damn dangerous to maintain any kind of ecologically sound status quo.

Once you know you're headed for extinction, the next question is how...cuz that's what sets humans apart in nature...a tremendous range of choices not available to animals, plants, or other of life's kingdoms. There's always *trading up* for instance but we're gonna have to move pretty fast at this point...the rest of the herd seems hell-bent on Armageddon...

(I'm not sure why exactly...it's not that great a movie!)

m1

[Naomi]

Well fish turned into land amphibians, dinosaurs turnd into birds, humans may turn into....?

These individuals will be comparitively rare - look at the fossil record on archaeopteryx for example compared to other species. These things come in cycles, the planet reaching out to the external universe by using the tools she has available - her creatures.

We've been in space though so perhaps there is hope anyways. (i think there is)

but you still have to keep a tough gameface....

[Catalytic Subterfuge]

Humans into .................(Star Child?)

[Darkwater]

I am with Kuroyagi,the four fires of life will remain eternal as they always have.

Honour being the main one posted missing.The missing link?All I can do is work upon myself & my astral senses in order to be-aware,pre-warned is pre-pared.The other 3 fires of life are neccessary too,of course.

Hey CS,we always were Star Child?

Where do you think we are made manifest from?

[Naomi]

http://la.gg/upl/twinstars.jpg

[deviadah]

Extinction huh?

Perhaps it is the cynic in me speaking but shouldn't this happen sooner rather than later?

:cool:

[m1thr0s]

Humans into .................(Star Child?)I've studied the star-thesis all of my adult life and one of the things i think we need to acknowledge is that while it makes pretty good sense metaphorically, logistically it's a bit of a nitemare...it's too big...too much, too fast etc... There will have to be a step or two between here and there or it's just not really going to happen.

So what takes up a lot of my projective time is figuring out the *next step*, cuz to my way of thinking, that's the real make-or-break issue going on here. But oherwise, yeah, why not *stars*? They seem to have a pretty good handle on a very impressive piece of real estate, for one thing...

If we look at this via the progression of Aeons along the Tree of Life it makes a little more sense. Approaching the near future we have an Aeon rooted in Mars gravitating to Jupiter, whereas it's really the next Aeon that finally crosses over to Saturn. Once we hit the Great Black Mother, we're probably about as good as cooked but that's still a ways out yet. So stars, yes, but not all in one fell swoop...not from where we are standing right here and now anyway.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

it's more fun for guys when t hey can fill in the blanks

transitory species

protomammals evolved before dinosaurs for instance, yet went on to take over the world millions of years later once the dinosaurs died off...as mammals. We may not even be the primary species slated for ultimate dominion of the earth, it might be something like birds, for instance....Ravens and Eagles arn't too stupid...they could just be Dinosaurs on vacation....

So yeah, birds had their archaeopteryx, humans had their australopithicus, stars may have their tantrikas....

Or it could be something else we don't suspect, such as future AI....I'm not buying that one yet so easily.

I have sort of a theory that those more comfortable with technology will likely survive better, the internet is a bit like an egg...

[Catalytic Subterfuge]

m1: I agree that there will have to be a step or two logically. However, I'm also not convinced it won't happen out of an instantaneous experience. I envision something like a mutation followed by years of oppression by us humans. Something like the X-men plot although not so contrived. All the talk of 2012 etc has kept me wondering if that is when the first noticeable genetic change will occur; slowly evolving into the next self? Anyway, just a thought.....

[m1thr0s]

However, I'm also not convinced it won't happen out of an instantaneous experience.Well that's it I think...the great quantum mystery and it may well have more to do with this than genes per se. It's astonishing how fast these mutations can occur when everything is primed in just the right way. A lot may depend on who and what we really are in the larger scheme of things vs what we have led ourselves to believe. The reason this makes a difference is that it means it may be possible to remember all of that correctly and this amounts to a formidable retrieval mechanism...much more powerful than than the more tit-for-tat process of logical progressions...

In any case, there was never a better time to be pushing our luck...whatever that is...

m1

[Anibis]

This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7203186.stm) is relevant.
-Anibis

[Catalytic Subterfuge]

"And the meek shall inherit the earth!"