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zombieharlot
08-13-2006, 05:57 PM
To you, what makes Lucifer a good role model?

What does he stand for or represent to you?

And what are the truths that he has revealed?

fr.novumorganum
08-15-2006, 05:40 PM
He was the first to say "NO", which got the whole ball rolling....

Radiant Star
08-17-2006, 01:15 PM
I am not a Luciferian and I still struggle with understanding this entity. There seem to be ambiguous ideas and connections. I suppose the only thing to do is summon him.

m1thr0s
08-17-2006, 03:01 PM
I guess I don't very much believe in "role models" so I would have to say nothing...I think these things either exist internally or not at all. So in that case I would have to rephrase the question more along the lines of what makes Lucifer "relevant" or "useful" to you personally etc...

But I don't have an answer to that either since I still can't seem to get a very clear handle on what Lucifer actually is at a principle level... I think maybe I need to read this book (http://www.bookworld.com/lucifer/about.html)

Anybody read that yet? Is it any good?

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
08-18-2006, 05:14 PM
As someone who has had to know Bloom and his work professionally, I'd warn any reader to be very very wary of his material. He works from a very conservative religious and aesthetic ideology (hence his sucess) and he puts scholarship and textual work second to his "meta-narratives".


As a professor he's the "i'm a genius how dare you question me" type.

m1thr0s
08-18-2006, 05:36 PM
lol...great...just what we need...another mega-prima-dona telling us all how it is...

okeedokee...the hunt continues then...thanks Fr Novum...

m1thr0s

Ğanisty
08-28-2006, 08:57 AM
I started to read that book and got bored. It doesn't have anything to do with Luciferianism...it doesn't even have anything to do with Lucifer. Basically, it's a book that was written to tell us that man is inherently evil...

Luciftias
08-28-2006, 01:50 PM
I've got that book. I thought it was interesting, but it didn't actually discuss the figure of Lucifer. It's more about how nature is amoral, including humanity. It's a good point, especially considering that the most fundamental Hermetic principle is "As above, so below."

Lashtal
08-18-2008, 06:20 PM
I had a very enthusiastic episode on acid a few times that involved Lucifer specifically.

I hadn't really paid mind to the entity/idea/thought whatever you wish to call it.

But I found 7 years of studying Crowley come rushing together in an instant... and everything CLICKED

it's been life-changing. Like, what happened those few times have left a real lasting impression on me and view-point.

Like the name suggests, it/He brought all things that were In The Dark into The Light; and I was given Sight in dark places.

I take it with me everyday and will remember it for the rest of my natural life.

7 years of searching was nothing compared to these 5 or so hours of intensified existence, self-exaltation, It All.

I was lifted from man to God, is what i'm saying.

frater luciferi
08-19-2008, 01:59 AM
welcome to the party..dont fly too high or you might burn your wings..

aiwas it is and will every be..

EtuMalku
10-05-2008, 10:18 PM
My form of Luciferianism is not deity based, it is Theosophy based.

Lucifer is the god of progress and intellectual inquiry, not only the divine inspiration behind the spiritual enlightenment of the Gnostic and the heretic and the lover of God in all his/her forms.
Through Lucifer's spirit humanity first climbed down from the trees and has represented the flow of progress ever since.

But Lucifer may be more than a metaphor for rebellion, enlightenment and advancement - as the pure creative and motive light, Lucifer may actually be the key to life itself . . .

The DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultra-weak proton emissions - in other words, light!
A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.

Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the life-force, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star - and now we know we have our own inner light.

m1thr0s
10-06-2008, 04:10 AM
wonderful description EtuMalku...pardon me for appearing to qualify your post but it's something I find unavoidable in certain instances...

I am only not entirely convinced of the word *theosophy*...words are so damn difficult really...I think I know what you mean but I suspect there may be a better word than this.

thanks for posting...

m1thr0s