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Dragon
02-04-2008, 04:25 PM
I found this.

http://iew3.technion.ac.il/Home/Users/anatr/symbol.html

It sparked a good conversation.


I am willing to open a discussion about symbols and humankind from not just a mystical standpoint, but a socio-psychological one as well.

And by extension, the effects of symbols on other forms of life.

Also - What constitutes a symbol? we are so used to associating symbols with visual keys that we often forget other symbols for other senses. We use them all the time of course....

Break that down succinctly.

~D~

Radiant Star
02-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Probably the most common symbol on a global scale would be some form of time, clock, sun's whereabouts, daybreak and dusk, not just visually but the sound of six here and the cat knows its her dinner time.

The various bird calls at dawn and dusk alert us to day timings; the smell of pollution tells me when the rush hours are here in London and even more vibrations tell me its busier outside.

Addition: actually a smile is probably the most recognised and reacted to symbol everywhere.

MythMath
02-04-2008, 10:06 PM
Or the Eye and all it can relay...

wiz-oz
04-29-2008, 12:45 AM
Mythmath, thanks for pointing me to the Borromean rings while having seen the knot form before wasn’t aware of the full geometry process of it. I like things visually explained as it conveys more than words. It is interesting that you point to the 3 rings and that it forms the logo of the Int’l Maths Union, which has been “borrowed” from an Italian family crest. http://torus.math.uiuc.edu/jms/Images/IMU-logo/IMU-B.png
http://www.liv.ac.uk/~spmr02/rings/sicily.jpg

The other aspects I noticed is that the Int’l Maths Union logo ring formation has a 3-6-9 configuration of 3 rings, a hexagon at the centre and 9 bound spaces. I wonder was that intentional or not?


This brings me to what I spotted two days prior to accessing your e-mail, re: a crop circle I was reviewing:

http://www.hypermaths.org/cropcircles/chapter3/9a%20WhirlingMoons%20200.jpg

Note the diagram with the Pythagorean Tetraktys
http://www.hypermaths.org/cropcircles/chapter3/9b%20Whirling%20Moons%20200.jpg


Mystics and shamans of many cultures referred to Galactic Center as Tula and wrote her name as a triangle made of three circles. The image below has been found etched on rocks at prehistoric sites all over the world. Some believe that this version of the image also represents the face of the wormhole at Galactic Center

http://weinholds.org/images/grail_5.gif


You can see how the symbol of three circles in triangular formation are very old. But indicates to me perhaps a macro and micro universal connection.

While talking about symbols in a recent post you mentioned the EYE, and asked me in your email to read info on the Masonic geometry of Washington. There no doubt in my mind the Egyptian/Masonic connection, but the Cabala aspect I hadn’t seen. I noted the reference to the 11 spheres of the Tree of Life. Which I find connected to the tetraktys, GP and the tetrahedron as follows:

Make 10 tetrahedrons, stack them as 1-3-6 in 3 layers. What you will find is a hidden 11th (inverted/mirror) tetrahedron nestled amongst 4 octahedrons in the stack. Put it this way –they don’t teach that stuff at school. I discovered it for myself by building the stack. This leads to mathematically 44 faces/vertexes of the tetra and 66 vectors. When adding the vectors of the octahedrons 12 x 4 = 48 + the 10 x 6 tetras = the mystical 108, while the hidden 11th tetra is empty space potentially. Of course the Tree of knowledge traces 22 pathways, so there are interesting philosophical and geometric connections here.

However, not wanting to discuss the geometry side as this has been done to death. It crossed my mind recently about the Masonic symbols “allseeing eye” and “G”. There’s differing views about what these symbols mean. I’m sure that all are probably correct, depending on your level of initiation. I’m no expert on Masonary, but given that all is frequency the eye could actually be a sine wave or a vibrating string. The G is the note “G” which under standard tuning with middle ‘C’ at 440hz would be 384hz. This number = 3 to the 7th octave. However, I'm not a muso, so stand corrected. There's also tuning to A =440hz which means G in the 5th octave 784hz or 4 octaves lower = 7x7 with a wavelength of 44cm (sides of GP capstone harmonic).

This is only 28hz (4x7) higher than the harmonic of the base side the Great Pyramid at 756ft.

So I’m suggesting that the ‘all seeing eye’ may also represent vibrational frequencies and string theory on some level. Bear in mind that the Great Pyramid has no capstone, yet is depicted in Masonic lore. Note that the truncated top of the GP has a side length of 44ft a harmonic of 440. (Cautionary note: I’m not a supporter of standard pitch at 440hz, but at 432hz). This leads me to an idea that the capstone (without the proof yet) represents a ‘work in progress’ of sorts and that we are that ‘work in progress’.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/sinewave.jpg

On the 19th April 2008 the first UK crop Circle appeared in Canola rape seed Image Nick Nicholson :
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/wadenhill/wadenhill2008g.jpg

See animation by Philippe Charette

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/wadenhill/animation-gif.gif


Intersting that this date 19th April is the appointment of Pope benedict and he was in NYC on 19th April. Not sure what the connection is there, but the symbol of the spiral as a wormhole and it's antecedent geometric construction fits this post well.


A bit of a rambling mixed bag here but all is symbolic. Make of it what you will.


Cheers from OZ

MythMath
05-06-2008, 02:54 AM
Hi wiz-oz, et al...

Here's another great 3/6/9:

http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2007_10_31__06_54_44/tri_esher.jpg05382a32-eee4-434f-bcde-54a8d910dd2dLarge.jpg

from: www.turbosquid.com/.../Index.cfm/ID/376487 (http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/376487)

m1thr0s
05-06-2008, 03:13 AM
that's astonishing! leave it to escher to come up with something like that...

m1

MythMath
05-06-2008, 03:28 AM
Actually 'twas Sir Roger who inspired several of MC's designs:

Penrose triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_triangle)

EDIT:

Actually 'twas Oscar Reutersvärd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Reutersv%C3%A4rd)...

A countryman of deviadah's...

MythMath
05-06-2008, 03:41 AM
Impossible Tetractys
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/ImpossibleTetractys.jpg
from: http://im-possible.info/russian/art/reutersvard/reut5.html