Naomi
02-11-2008, 12:27 PM
This is a spinoff topic continued from Ego and Dark Arts Practitioners. (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?p=32507#post32507) I have placed it here because I think that this is a good example of being able to see a more accurate face of Abrahadabra itself, rather than at a personal level, what it is really doing is acting in very specific modes that are visible only at the level of entire ecosystem and in this case, species approaching evolutionary completion as m1thr0s put it -the point at where ego becomes especially important "beyond genetics" finding out who we want to be when all choices are opened up...
there's a lot of new tech coming down the pike. our whole view of science itself is poised for a major overhaul I think...that's going to change a lot of things. It's hard to see it all right now cuz it's moving so fast and seems to be all across the board. If we don't don't blow our asses to pieces we seem to be on the edge of another major surge in technology, and these are building upon themselves hand-over-fist. So the so-called Satanism of today with its not-god approach to self-realization may be the mutational engineering of tomorrow, where breakthroughs in scientific understanding will make deliberate steps towards so-called "godhead" not only possible but actually fairly common...but we will gradually cease to call it "godhead" and begin calling it something else I think. Crowley used the term "completion" as did the eastern sages and also western qaballah. If this "completion" ever becomes a recognized evolutionary criterion, we are off to a whole other kind of "godhead".
150 years may be too soon of course but knowledge builds exponentially so that may not even be all that off the mark...but there's a knee-jerk resistance barrier to be dealt with and the old guard has to be physically retired so this will certainly create unnecessary bloodshed and trauma...as always...
Yes it's very exciting. I think that we won't blow ourselves to pieces, I think the nuclear thing was handled as well as it could have been handled, and things continue to weigh against this, even though we have leaders in smaller countries who do have nuclear capability and the insanity to set one off, I don't think they are nearly as dangerous as they are made out to be.
My guess is that China will become the heir to genetic technology within the next 150 years, and we will certainly see some bloodshed - both natural and manmade - correction, natural - we're merely an extension of this higher natural order, isn't that the whole point? I bet that it will be beautiful, and terrible and humans will survive, they have a very uncanny knack for surviving under the worst conditions and living to not only tell about it but thrive as well - Japan post-Nagasaki is a good example, although Greece and Rome were not, the European Union may yet show us a rebound from the World Wars that devastated their empires.
I like your idea of completion of evolution - as if our evolution too has to meet macro leaps that come around only once in a million years or so, and we're just now seeing this vast change. The world today is incredible compared to the world of a 100 years ago so, yeah, I think that is a good indicator that we're seeing something that has never been seen since the dawn of man.
Now as far as ego goes, will the things that made us human throughout history survive? I think we need to have respect for the human legacy, I see a lot of the enthusiasts of this so-called new human envisioning this androgynous human in robes that lives on nothing but water and protein bars. I'm like please be realistic - I think that we have to have a good image of what track humans are on for this whole thing to be successful. We have to gauge accurately where the trajectory of this collective "human ego" is going before we can fulfill it. I think that it is very very Satanic - humans are selfish by nature - all good without the stupidity I think, and very active and energetic as well as sexual. They're not modelled afer the guy sitting in the cave waiting for his nirvana - if that were so that model would have become the dominant one hundreds of years ago. Yet I still see many Buddhists lagging behind on this one, even though Siddhartha's insights were all very practical and forward moving in themselves. People just have to find out for themselves, masters can only help things along bit by bit. Wow, that just reminded me of childbirth - what we're actually looking at here in regards to the human species is the necessity for a premature caeserean. XD
If this evolution is to happen at this new extreme level, it will be a global inheritance, incorpoating bits and pieces from cultures all over the world, the collective experience of the human species from a million years ago with australopithicus to the present day.
there's a lot of new tech coming down the pike. our whole view of science itself is poised for a major overhaul I think...that's going to change a lot of things. It's hard to see it all right now cuz it's moving so fast and seems to be all across the board. If we don't don't blow our asses to pieces we seem to be on the edge of another major surge in technology, and these are building upon themselves hand-over-fist. So the so-called Satanism of today with its not-god approach to self-realization may be the mutational engineering of tomorrow, where breakthroughs in scientific understanding will make deliberate steps towards so-called "godhead" not only possible but actually fairly common...but we will gradually cease to call it "godhead" and begin calling it something else I think. Crowley used the term "completion" as did the eastern sages and also western qaballah. If this "completion" ever becomes a recognized evolutionary criterion, we are off to a whole other kind of "godhead".
150 years may be too soon of course but knowledge builds exponentially so that may not even be all that off the mark...but there's a knee-jerk resistance barrier to be dealt with and the old guard has to be physically retired so this will certainly create unnecessary bloodshed and trauma...as always...
Yes it's very exciting. I think that we won't blow ourselves to pieces, I think the nuclear thing was handled as well as it could have been handled, and things continue to weigh against this, even though we have leaders in smaller countries who do have nuclear capability and the insanity to set one off, I don't think they are nearly as dangerous as they are made out to be.
My guess is that China will become the heir to genetic technology within the next 150 years, and we will certainly see some bloodshed - both natural and manmade - correction, natural - we're merely an extension of this higher natural order, isn't that the whole point? I bet that it will be beautiful, and terrible and humans will survive, they have a very uncanny knack for surviving under the worst conditions and living to not only tell about it but thrive as well - Japan post-Nagasaki is a good example, although Greece and Rome were not, the European Union may yet show us a rebound from the World Wars that devastated their empires.
I like your idea of completion of evolution - as if our evolution too has to meet macro leaps that come around only once in a million years or so, and we're just now seeing this vast change. The world today is incredible compared to the world of a 100 years ago so, yeah, I think that is a good indicator that we're seeing something that has never been seen since the dawn of man.
Now as far as ego goes, will the things that made us human throughout history survive? I think we need to have respect for the human legacy, I see a lot of the enthusiasts of this so-called new human envisioning this androgynous human in robes that lives on nothing but water and protein bars. I'm like please be realistic - I think that we have to have a good image of what track humans are on for this whole thing to be successful. We have to gauge accurately where the trajectory of this collective "human ego" is going before we can fulfill it. I think that it is very very Satanic - humans are selfish by nature - all good without the stupidity I think, and very active and energetic as well as sexual. They're not modelled afer the guy sitting in the cave waiting for his nirvana - if that were so that model would have become the dominant one hundreds of years ago. Yet I still see many Buddhists lagging behind on this one, even though Siddhartha's insights were all very practical and forward moving in themselves. People just have to find out for themselves, masters can only help things along bit by bit. Wow, that just reminded me of childbirth - what we're actually looking at here in regards to the human species is the necessity for a premature caeserean. XD
If this evolution is to happen at this new extreme level, it will be a global inheritance, incorpoating bits and pieces from cultures all over the world, the collective experience of the human species from a million years ago with australopithicus to the present day.