Stripping Enochian of its religious overtones

[Alarum]

Stripping Enochian of its religious overtones

I have recently come to learn the enochian system, yet I stress only in theory. I have done absolutly no practical yet.
My question is, in what ways have you adapted your workings of the enochian system to be more conductive to the LHP? That is, if anyone on here uses the Enochian system.
My interest in Enochian stems from my current working paradigm, which is of my own design, and approaches magic as if the universe is a song/vibration.
In said paradigm (which still lacks a name) magic is viewed as the succesful manipulation of the melodies of the universe, and ties in with modern theoretical physics (especially String Theory) and ancient mythologies. This system is perfect for working in the Chaos current as it allows for all religious beliefs and magical systems.
Enochian inspires me as it is based around a language (sound vibrations) which itself effects the phenominal as well as the personal universe of the practitioner.
I am extremely interested in understanding other peoples takes on the subject and I would be very interested to hear how the Key's were changed in a way which still alows the system to work correcly.
It is my understanding that the Judeo-Christian symbolism and language surrounding the system was a by-product of the times Dee and Kelly lived in, I would love to modify and adapt the system for working in todays world. Any pointers and advice would be much appreciated.

Alarum

[m1thr0s]

I've never been much drawn to Enochian except for the geometry aspects of it which I do find interesting. It would seem fairly easy to modify on the face of it, though I am not sure if that might not defeat its purpose...assuming it actually has a purpose. Some think so at least...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

Well, if looking at the translations of the keys themselves, one finds very little official x-stain terminology or jargon. Likewise in working with the entities of the squares.

The transmission of the system seems to be the locus for most of the christian overtones.

[Dragon]

I don't use Enochian anymore, except for the Tablet of Union names in GD based ceremonies. I was into it pretty heavy during my GD phase in the late 80's though, along with Abramelin, the Keys of Solomon, and that whole "corner" of the universe. When I was in the OTO we actually had the tablets, built to spec, and did skrying and invocations with them. I found they move like an intergrated curcuit board in their logic, and do have some metaphysical value, despite their murky inception.

In working with them I found as much as it is about the vocal/tonal work, it is as much about the visual cues. The shapes of the sigils, the 3 dimensional shape of the boards, the color arrangements - all combine to create a total effect that can place one in a trance that allows for skrying into the tablets as they flash their message through the optical systems in the brain.

The symbolic and archtypical language as conveyed by the concepts the angels represent have their value in doing adjustments in the body of light, but I found that they "top out" at some level; they have limitations and and are not fully functional as a whole system, but a partial one. As such, it has been relegated to the same strata as some of my older tarot decks, I like to dust it off once in a while like and old book that I have been through too many times to read again, but still enjoy the images and experiences that it evokes when I hold it, so I keep it around as a conversation piece.

I simply traded it out for more powerful systems. More accurately I intergrated it into more advanced world models as they came to me.

In sum, you get out what you put in, but one has to ask then -

Is that enough?:confused:



Thoughts...

Dragon

[fr.novumorganum]

I've often thought enochian is simply a better magickal link, on its own, than much of the traditional cm material. What I mean by this, is that traditional ritual, especially in the beginning, requires more on the part of the magickian to effect his/her consciousness, while enochian has more 'in the system' that effects the magickian's consciousness.

[Copuldaemon]

what dragon had wrote was pretty interesting. enochian? religious overtones?
i used to be interested in that system a few years back but for me to say words based off that language aloud with attempted proper prononciation proves difficult as to where i currently live-people think i'm crazy enough,lol.
as for the LHP perspective, the only thing that i know of it being used is two places
1. anton laveys sb and 2. joy of satan where they put up an extended and re-researched version off the language and the enochian keys.

[fr.novumorganum]

I believe the temple of set also has a version of the keys.