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m1thr0s
08-19-2006, 01:57 AM
Throughout this whole presentation I will periodically make reference to the relationship between the I Ching and the Genetic Code, which happens to be a very important factor in qualifying why this particular methodology may be especially relevant to us all. This discussion is sufficiently complex that I feel it better to refer readers to a few key sources other than myself.

Books of Interest:

Title: The I Ching & the Genetic Code, The Hidden Key to Life
Author: Martin Schönberger
Comments: The groundbreaking book that first brought this information to light. A little loose on the medical details but well written otherwise.

Title: DNA and the I Ching, The Tao of Life
Author: Johnson F. Yan
Comments: Follow-up work by the inventor of the I-Gene Cube, Dr. Yan brings his genetics expertise to bear in this discussion alongside a lifelong study of the I Ching. Reinforces (and corrects) Schönberger's work

Additional I Ching Book Reviews: Joel Biroco's Yijing Dao Page (http://biroco.com/yijing/survey.htm)

Internet Links:

Site: Tony Smith's I Ching/DNA Page (http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ichgene6.html)
Comments: If you can't completely follow Tony's mental meanderings, don't worry about it...nobody can...but it's very clear he knows his stuff...

Site: SIPP 9.0 - The DNA Cube (http://www.sipp.org/reference/sipp6/)
Comments: Useful Chemistry presentation with additional RNA info pages

Site: Wholes, aspects, and the Genetic Code (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond/dna.html)
Comments: Simple text page with DNA/RNA sequencing info & an intriguing "dichotomy" theory

Site: Occult Genetic Code: The Great Primordial Language Rediscovered (http://www.erowid.org/culture/references/other/1997_krakowski_resproject_1.shtml)
Comments: Interesting article from one of my favorite websites. A little heavy on the Crowley sauce for my taste but it has its merits...

Site: The I Ching Binary System and Natural Phenomenum (http://www.tomshinsky.com/page801.html)
Comments: Interesting article. The author is a tad overly impressed with himself but there's some good stuff there. downloadable .pdf file here (http://www.tomshinsky.com/download/DNA.zip)

Site: The I Ching on the Net (http://pacificcoast.net/~wh/Index.html)
Comments: This is just a very good I Ching resource page with some Genetics info included in its massive lineup of links...

Site: Terence McKenna's Time-Wave Theory of I Ching (http://www.levity.com/eschaton/waveexplain.html)
Comments: Not specifically connected to genetics but poke around...tons of relevant stuff on this site

Note: I will be adding to this list of resources as I come across anything of interest.
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:: What none of these resources will tell you, of course, is how this immediate meditation practise corresponds to all of this. They obviously can't tell you that because I'm about as much of a *dark horse* player in this whole thing as it gets and they wouldn't very likely understand the language I use anyway. What happens in the creation of trigrammal fields (which actually follow precise hexagrammal pairings) occurs on a number of different levels of complexity. At the most fundamental level we are simply creating balanced elemental fields corresponding to selected hexagrams which are typically paired against their opposites to achieve a "zeroing" effect. This is very akin to the idea of balancing chakras only we have a wider range of very specific energy fields we can draw to and the overall effect applies to one's whole energy constitution at once and so is not restricted to just this or that location on the Body itself.

:: This is only the basic Harmonics application, whereby we are both generating and purging energy on many levels at once from the lowest to the highest levels. As we become more adept at this we can then begin to attend to more specific applications of these *trained* energy fields. This is all energy vibrational theory but it doesn't take long for the theory to become quite physical. I have actually never met anyone who took up this very exclusive practise that did not wind up experiencing dramatic results in very little time and most of us are frankly hooked on the practise to the extent that we have nearly lost all interest in any other form of energy working...the range of possibilities being so vast and the effects so immediately ascertainable.

:: What exactly is occuring at the genetic level, none of us can say for an absolute certainty. Because we are working within the framework of the very same *language* system as is being used by the genetic code itself, we have good reason to suppose that something is in fact occuring on a genetic level, but those of us who have thus far taken up this challenge are placed in the curious position of having to play both doctor and lab rat at the same time. The range of possible explanations is vast, to say the least. What we do know and do experience on a regular basis is a very real sensation of getting ever so slightly stronger and smarter the more we apply this methodology. And there are very few people at present who have taken up this practise at all, the knowledge of which is so exclusive and so secretive that barely a handful are even aware of its existence to begin with...yet its parallels are to be found literally everywhere you look, combining aspects of chi and chakra and tree and kundalini and prana and many other classical disciplines together in one.

m1thr0s

Kain
08-19-2006, 04:11 PM
Great links, thanks for sharing m1thr0s...At the most fundamental level we are simply creating balanced elemental fields corresponding to selected hexagrams which are typically paired against their opposites to achieve a "zeroing" effect. This is very akin to the idea of balancing chakras only we have a wider range of very specific energy fields we can draw to and the overall effect applies to one's whole energy constitution at once and so is not restricted to just this or that location on the Body itself. Very interesting. Personally, I have been using a close variation of this method. I have been employing the Tantric system of 3 Gunas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guna) (meaning "qualities", or "qualities of nature". Namely, Tammas, Sattva and Rajas, or Moon, Fire and Sun respectively) in order to balance the energy constitution of the Body, working on the Body's energy field as a whole as opposed to just specific parts of it. I have been often utilizing an equilateral triangle as a pallete/key to building/affecting/editing the Body's energy constitution, very similar to the outer border of the Abrahadabra Grid, housing the Body within.

The aim of the basic harmonization session is to consciously account for a healthy presence of all three qualities, and allow all three of them to negate each other's predominance, eventually reaching a sort of fertile co-balance midpoint, from which the further building process can be initiated.


What we do know and do experience on a regular basis is a very real sensation of getting ever so slightly stronger and smarter the more we apply this methodology. This, I second and understand perfectly.

And there are very few people at present who have taken up this practise at all, the knowledge of which is so exclusive and so secretive that barely a handful are even aware of its existence to begin with...yet its parallels are to be found literally everywhere you look, combining aspects of chi and chakra and tree and kundalini and prana and many other classical disciplines together in one.

m1thr0sIndeed, in truth the parallels are so many and found literally everywhere. Personally, I was eventually drawn to a lot of these classical disciplines due to a sensation of affinity with what I later recognized as the common "core" of assumptions and methodology shared by all of them...undoubtedly expressed by Mutational Alchemy as well, and in a very mathematically precise way too.

Kain

m1thr0s
08-19-2006, 06:19 PM
In truth, even the most "basic" operations are kind of up for grabs on this thing. I am focusing on the balancing of polar opposites primarily because I will be fairly shortly talking more about how the Binary 64 Hexagrams can be aligned to the 32 coordinate points along the Tree of Life, one of this system's more promising applications. But it neither begins nor ends there at all. It's really so great to have some place to share these ideas. I realize it may take awhile for some to come forward on such a weighty subject matter but the value is inestimable when people do, either with examples of their own work or else supporting data, observations, questions, technical criticisms, whatever...I lap up every drop of it personally. In email correspondences I have had with people I have discovered whole new applications I had never even considered before, so the value of talking about all of this openly just cannot be overstated.

Ibisis once wrote me (I hope he doesn't mind my disclosing this) about a fascinating method of running parallel hexagrams simultaneously in opposite directions, rather than building in the "loop" system I usually employ. My brains are still reeling from it. Such a fascinating idea, and again, something this system can easily afford. So the range of possibilities is literally endless.

I want to show you something Kain, something I think you may find irresistable. It directly corresponds to the 3 Gunas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunas) system you are working with...something I also have worked with quite extensively. We may have touched on it lightly before but here I can go into it a little more thoroughly. I will probably have to toss together a few graphic illustrations for this so bear with me...when the "article in progess" stamp disappears you'll know I'm done (except for edits...lol).

We see a lot of confirmation of the 3 Gunas doctrine all over the place in tantric circles and ayurvedic medicine and yin-yang medicine and even at the level of atomic theory itself so there's no denying its relevance or its appropriateness as a conscious energy focus. But perhaps the most compelling proof of the validity of the 3 Gunas system for *mutationists* (the general term for people working with Hexagrams) is to be found in the system of *nuclear hexagrams* in the I Ching itself. For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the *nuclear hexagrams* system, this is a way of identifying the underscoring momentum inherent in every hexagram. Like a snake shedding its skin, this is achieved by subtracting the top and bottom lines and then creating a new hexagram comprised of the top 3 lines placed over the bottom three lines like this:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nuclears01.gif

It turns out that when you do this for all the hexagrams, an interesting pattern emerges. By continuing the process of creating and recreating nuclears until no more can be created, we finally arrive at 3 Classes of hexagrams which are finally self-resolving. 6 Yin lines will always resolve into another set of 6 Yin lines, just as 6 Yang lines will always resolve into 6 Yang lines, while the third set is a little different. Traditionally called Hexagram #63 (After Completion) will always resolve into Hexagram #64 (Before Completion) which will again resolve back into Hexagram #63 and so on ad infinitum. Because all 64 Binary hexagrams will always follow one of these 3 underscoring *paths of resolution*, they are the mathematical equivalent of the 3 Gunas in Ayurvedic medicine. Here is a visual verification:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nuclears02.gif

Now it happens that these 3 pairs of hexagrams are extremely important to us from a number of different points of reference. I could actually create an entire book around the nuclear hexagrams (and this arrangement in particular) but for now I want to come directly to the point. Of special interest to us here is that these 3 hexagrammal pairs actually amount to an alchemical distillation of the entire Binary system. We know this because they constitute the only 3 possible *paths of resolution* in the entire Binary system. So if you were going to initiate an experiment with this system and you wanted to begin with the single most potent combination of fields you could choose, these would be your targets. But it goes a whole lot deeper than this alone. There exists within this arrangement an entire body of rules pertinent to trigrammal field creation in general, and the more we can glean out these rules, the more effective all future experiments will tend to be. I won't try to outline it all right here but only highlite a couple of very important issues.

The idea of pairing whole hexagrams is a prevalent theme throughout all of I Ching history and continuing on through the Tai Hsuan Ching as well and here in the nuclear system we see it establishing itself once again as the preferred method of operations from a strict efficiency standpoint. I have not had a chance yet to outline all the reasons for this but it essentially gets back to the 4 elemental worlds and how these play out in the creation of whole energy cycles. Whenever we create a circle of any kind, there is a natural tendency for the mind to subdivide that circle into quadrants due to the logical imperative of vertical and horizontal axis' around which all matters of balance and equilibrium inherently revolve. This has to do with the physics of the brain itself...everything functional in nature revolves around this property, so the most efficient way to build hexagrammal fields intrinsically boils down to doing it in four balanced parts to the circle. We can do whatever the hell we want to do in truth but when push comes to shove, the strongest actions will always conform to this standard. So that's one thing and I will have to return to that later because there's a lot more to it than I am addressing at the moment.

The second thing we need to observe here is that we needn't always pair exact horizontal *opposites*. There are vertical opposites (or inverses) to consider and we can also pair *similars*. If we can pair similars, we might as well confess we can also pair all manner of *irregulars* such as might be useful to us when we do a hexagrammal reading and happen to have one or more *running* lines, for instance. According to the standard we are looking at here, there is no reason to think we should not be able to pair originals with their corresponding *changing hexagrams* created from the running lines. We may have no idea really what earthly value this may serve but it is an option that is allowable according to the standard laid down in the nuclears. So a lot is going on here and all kinds of things are possible in trigrammal fields. The mathematical prospects are literally infinite, and yet the rules remain fairly well defined and not at all half-hazard.

I don't want to run on and on indefinitely on this right now but there is a lot to be said that has not even begun to be said yet. I suspect I may be scaring some people with all of this stuff and very probably boring others and in truth I really don't care. People need to be intimidated more than they care to admit. They especially need to *shaken* into some recognition of the insidious shallowness passing itself off as *high magick* these days, since many are banking on a horse that's been dead for years and won't be finishing any races. What we have going on right here is a legitimate foundation for the *real deal*. I don't try to say it is the *only* game in town. I happen to think it is the most exciting and by far the most promising thing I have ever encountered. So my committment to those who are drawn to this light greatly outweighs my concern for those who are not, or simply do not care. Even so, small doses tend to work out better than huge ones so there is one more thing I want to point out on this issue and then I will let it rest a bit.

As powerful and as charismatic as the nuclears are, they do not apply in the ternary system. I understand this in part only but it is a mathematical fact of life and we all need to set our clocks accordingly. Something very different occurs in the ternary, owing to the precedent of the Jen Line which has come forward in the ternary and stands the same ground as Yin and Yang. This changes things...it changes a lot of things actually and some things which are available to us in the Binary system will simply be null and void in the Ternary. So while we do not have *nuclear hexagrams* in the ternary system (nor an exact system of running lines), we nevertheless have no shortage of triangles and we can perform a very similar kind of *distilled* operation which will look like this:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nuclears03.gif

On the Ternary side we still have the equivalent of Gunas as depicted above and we are still free to build our fields according to as wide a range of constructs as may happen to suit us, but we are dealing in a different elemental context and the rules vary at junctions. I say we no longer have *nuclear hexagrams* only because we no longer get an even spread as we do in the Binary system. Hexagrams that would have resolved into 63-64 will still do so here and this throws the balance off since only a handful of 32 Hexagrams in 729 will do this. So the logic is skewed, though it may yet have applications I have not been able to ascertain. Nevertheless, in all other respects, field dynamics remain the same and it will still be an advantage to us to work in balanced pairs with trigrams sectioned out to quarters.

Another indication that working in balanced pairs is our most powerful approach to things is to be found in the numeration of the middle hexagram, comprised of 6 Jen Lines, corresponding to Summer Solstice in the solar year. The fact that we find a curious reappearance of Abraxas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas) (also Mithrais (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithras)) is no incidental factor and earmarks a mystery so profound as to completely defy explanation at this time. Those with some historical backgrounding will recall that Abraxas stood at healm to 365 *archons*, representing his extended creative force and linked to time itself in some way. In the Ternary system, those 365 archons are numerically identifiable as balanced hexagrammal pairs and Abraxas itself stands central to the entire system in the form of the Tai Hsuan Principle embedded within the Jen structure itself. We know this to be the case principally owing to the ability of the Jen to change its own form to accomodate remainders, such that it subdivides itself every 4 years to accommodate the additional day lost to the passage of time in any normal 365 day cycle. So it is both the Jen and something behind the Jen, the same as Abraxas is said to be the intelligence behind the mechanism of stars (as Aeon).

But this is another mystery for another chapter... The bottom line here Kain is that the Gunas are most certainly a powerful approach to things and the validation for that approach is frankly all over the map... So I thank you for bringing that out and hope there are a few things in my response you may not have already been completely aware of.

m1thr0s

Kain
08-20-2006, 10:25 AM
In truth, even the most "basic" operations are kind of up for grabs on this thing. I am focusing on the balancing of polar opposites primarily because I will be fairly shortly talking more about how the Binary 64 Hexagrams can be aligned to the 32 coordinate points along the Tree of Life, one of this system's more promising applications. Ah, yes. A very interesting application. I'm looking forward to that. So one would naturally go about attributing a pair of hexagrams for each Sephira and path on the Tree of Life, functioning as polar opposites that together constitute a coordinate point on the Tree.
But it neither begins nor ends there at all. It's really so great to have some place to share these ideas. I realize it may take awhile for some to come forward on such a weighty subject matter but the value is inestimable when people do, either with examples of their own work or else supporting data, observations, questions, technical criticisms, whatever...I lap up every drop of it personally. In email correspondences I have had with people I have discovered whole new applications I had never even considered before, so the value of talking about all of this openly just cannot be overstated. Indeed! I find this sharing of ideas exceptionally helpful myself!

Ibisis once wrote me (I hope he doesn't mind my disclosing this) about a fascinating method of running parallel hexagrams simultaneously in opposite directions, rather than building in the "loop" system I usually employ. My brains are still reeling from it. Such a fascinating idea, and again, something this system can easily afford. So the range of possibilities is literally endless. That sounds very interesting. I hope you expand on this sometime Ibisis!

Because all 64 Binary hexagrams will always follow one of these 3 underscoring *paths of resolution*, they are the mathematical equivalent of the 3 Gunas in Ayurvedic medicine. Here is a visual verification:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nuclears02.gif

Now it happens that these 3 pairs of hexagrams are extremely important to us from a number of different points of reference. I could actually create an entire book around the nuclear hexagrams (and this arrangement in particular) but for now I want to come directly to the point. Of special interest to us here is that these 3 hexagrammal pairs actually amount to an alchemical distillation of the entire Binary system. We know this because they constitute the only 3 possible *paths of resolution* in the entire Binary system. So if you were going to initiate an experiment with this system and you wanted to begin with the single most potent combination of fields you could choose, these would be your targets. But it goes a whole lot deeper than this alone. There exists within this arrangement an entire body of rules pertinent to trigrammal field creation in general, and the more we can glean out these rules, the more effective all future experiments will tend to be. This is a great point you make here, m1thr0s. I have observed the immense importance of these three hexagrammal pairs, and I am quite fond of the idea of nuclear hexagrams in general. In fact, I was building an image that would show the entire process of distillation for each of the 64 hexagrams, all the way trough the various subsets of 3 and 4 hexagrams until we eventually reach the 3 polar opposites shown above. I intended to post it here somewhere but decided it did not look as clear as I'd like, so I scraped it although I may get to it again at some point.

I think however, that the connection with the 3 Gunas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunas) is quite apparent, and I think this illustration from the Abrahadabra main site was very well put concerning this subject:
http://abrahadabra.com/images/supernals003.gif

I found it very helpful and quite fitting for this particular discussion.
The mathematical prospects are literally infinite, and yet the rules remain fairly well defined and not at all half-hazard.I think this is one of the most important aspects of this system.

They especially need to *shaken* into some recognition of the insidious shallowness passing itself off as *high magick* these days, since many are banking on a horse that's been dead for years and won't be finishing any races. What we have going on right here is a legitimate foundation for the *real deal*. I don't try to say it is the *only* game in town. I happen to think it is the most exciting and by far the most promising thing I have ever encountered. So my committment to those who are drawn to this light greatly outweighs my concern for those who are not, or simply do not care. Exceptionally well said, I think.

As powerful and as charismatic as the nuclears are, they do not apply in the ternary system. I understand this in part only but it is a mathematical fact of life and we all need to set our clocks accordingly. Something very different occurs in the ternary, owing to the precedent of the Jen Line which has come forward in the ternary and stands the same ground as Yin and Yang. This changes things...it changes a lot of things actually and some things which are available to us in the Binary system will simply be null and void in the Ternary. I was wondering about whether nuclear hexagrams worked on the Ternary system...There may yet be applications for them that we have not pinpointed until now, but I guess you're right, the balances are quite skewed and a lot of things change when the Jen Line steps up and stands in the same ground as Yin and Yang.
Another indication that working in balanced pairs is our most powerful approach to things is to be found in the numeration of the middle hexagram, comprised of 6 Jen Lines, corresponding to Summer Solstice in the solar year. Very good point...
The fact that we find a curious reappearance of Abraxas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas) (also Mithrais (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithras)) is no incidental factor and earmarks a mystery so profound as to completely defy explanation at this time. Those with some historical backgrounding will recall that Abraxas stood at healm to 365 *archons*, representing his extended creative force and linked to time itself in some way. In the Ternary system, those 365 archons are numerically identifiable as balanced hexagrammal pairs and Abraxas itself stands central to the entire system in the form of the Tai Hsuan Principle embedded within the Jen structure itself. We know this to be the case principally owing to the ability of the Jen to change its own form to accomodate remainders, such that it subdivides itself every 4 years to accommodate the additional day lost to the passage of time in any normal 365 day cycle. So it is both the Jen and something behind the Jen, the same as Abraxas is said to be the intelligence behind the mechanism of stars (as Aeon).This, I had not realized in any way!Thank you very much for pointing it out m1thr0s...


The bottom line here Kain is that the Gunas are most certainly a powerful approach to things and the validation for that approach is frankly all over the map... So I thank you for bringing that out and hope there are a few things in my response you may not have already been completely aware of.You're welcome, it was an incredibly helpful response. Indeed the Gunas are an approach backed up from so many different directions...the parralels just never stop to amaze me at points...

Kain

m1thr0s
08-20-2006, 02:33 PM
I took the liberty of reformatting that image to better match the color scheme we've got here Kain. That's actually one of my favorite images as well since it conveys a lot of information on an intuitive level I think...

One of the things I have yet to get into anywhere is directions themselves and how this may impact banner assignments on our four-part field constructions. It's one of the points best demonstrated via the whole discussion of the Banners, so I have sort of held off engaging it anywhere until I could get around to that article. But maybe an abreviated rendition will not be too out of place here, so long as people understand that it's just an abbreviated explanation...

Experienced energy workers are already accustomed to thinking in terms of the directions they work in and combining those directions in appropriate ways, but less experienced practitioners may have no idea just how critical a factor this can be. When we are working in fields, which can tend to be very potent at times (and may even have some kind of impact on a neurogenetic level), observing directional protocols can be of paramount importance, and may make all the difference in sessions that go well vs the ones that may seem to fall off or even be physically agitating for some reason.

The rule of thumb with directions, especially relevant to any closed-loop energy applications are this:

• Widdershins (Counter-Clockwise) = Left-to-Right | Ascending | Yin
• Diocile (Clockwise) = Right-to-Left | Descending | Yang

Now it happens that all of the rules for word assignments in trigrammal fields are actually laid out in Bigrammaton itself on the Binary side. In all Hexagrammal constructions, whether we are dealing in Binary or Ternary operations, there are only 4 essential kinds of structures. The I Ching itself makes it very clear what the nature of yin and yang directions should be by asserting at numerous places that the Yin (Earth) roots in the Below and *Aspires* to Heaven, while the Yang roots in the Above and *Aspires* to Earth. The direction of *aspiration* tells us where the apex point of triangles should be. Consequently we may know that the generic triangle form of the Yin is the Ascending Triangle where the generic triangle form of the Yang is the Descending.

All complex Binary and Ternary structures fall into either Yin or Yang classifications, with the exception of structures that only contain Jen-Line values, which I will deal with at another time. It doesn't much impact this immediate conversation anyway.

• Yin Above + Yin Below = A Strong (Old) Yin = Mother
• Yin Above + Yang Below = A Weak (Young) Yin = Daughter
• Yang Above + Yang Below = A Strong (Old) Yang = Father
• Yang Above + Yin Below = A Weak (Young) Yang = Son

Working in balanced horizontal pairs yields an interesting and informative bit of information we can then apply in many kinds of variant creations, since when we put all of this together in 4-part circles, we find that there are really only two kinds of field constructions affordable to us. Assuming we are drawing energy from an Apex point and returning it back to Apex (the most common energy application) and further assuming we would be following the polarities laid out on the Tree of Life with Yins on the Left and Yangs on the Right, moving in a counterclockwise rotation will only yield 2 results:

• Yin -->Yin-->Yang-->Yang = Strong (Old) Field
• Yin-->Yang-->Yin-->Yang = Weak (Young) Field

Reversing directions, moving in a clockwise direction will only yield:

• Yang-->Yang-->Yin-->Yin = Strong (Old) Field
• Yang-->Yin-->Yang-->Yin = Weak (Young) Field

Following Trigammal protocols laid down by Fu Hsi with respect to the *standing* or *at rest* structure of Trigrams we may know:

• Strong Force roots in the Above = Heaven = Yang
• Weak Force roots in the Below = Earth = Yin

Banners tells us what the prevailing order of letter values will be on either of these kinds of structures. In general we would typically want to start from from the Strong Yang to get the most bang for our buck in fields because elementally it is Fire (Father) that contains the total and is also generally the ignition factor in any energy progression, so here I will limit myself to starting from the Strong Yang only and use IHVH as our standard:

• I (Father)-->V(Son)-->H(Daugher)-->H(Mother) = Strong Force (Heaven)
• I(Father)-->H(Daughter)-->V(Son)-->H(Mother) = Weak Force (Earth)

From this we may generally know what arrangements of letters are most *optimal* with respect to energy field constructions. They are not *absolute*...no one is suggesting you will damage yourself necessarily for failing to comply with these standards, but as a general rule of thumb:

• I-->H-->V-->H = Counterclockwise, Ascending Direction
• I-->V-->H-->H = Clockwise, Descending Direction

Some of this may seem a little complex on the face of it but as you begin to explore it and work with it more it not only gets increasingly lucid but significantly stronger and more robust with time. This is important because, as much as possible, we want to be able to isolate those patterns that tend to *train-in* the best, affording us a *maximum inertia - minimum stress* sort of benefit wherever we can find it...

All of this would be better illustrated with a few graphics, but I have no time for this today. I will probably revisit it when I run an article on the 12 Banners, and/or also as I begin to detail field applications in greater depth. For now, I just want to run this past you because it is apparent that you will be able to make some sense of it and I think you may find this whole thing useful.

postscript: I always have to keep reminding people lest they get the wrong idea that the whole Word of Perfection thing is just an exemplary standard. It lays out all the rules and follows them meticulously, but you needn't extrapolate from this that it's the only word you can employ. This thing is hardly a one-trick-pony...so always keep that in mind. I am not pushing the Word of Perfection in the way many people push their Divine Mantras off on everybody...there's plenty of room for experimentation here. Just wanted to reassert that. Some people have a terrible time with Hebrew...it just rings badly for them. I happen to be able to understand that very well, although I still have serious doubts that this word can ultimately be classed as a Hebrew word per se. I think it's probably an English word at the end of the day. Even better if it could be established as a universal word on some level, owing to its natural sound structure etc, but this is a little beyond the scope of my expertise.

m1thr0s

Kain
08-20-2006, 08:51 PM
I took the liberty of reformatting that image to better match the color scheme we've got here Kain. That's actually one of my favorite images as well since it conveys a lot of information on an intuitive level I think...Looks good!...I suppose the reds where a bit visually offensive in this color scheme. Experienced energy workers are already accustomed to thinking in terms of the directions they work in and combining those directions in appropriate ways, but less experienced practitioners may have no idea just how critical a factor this can be. This is indeed a very important part of the process in my experience as well. I agree that it is good to be brought up often. When we are working in fields, which can tend to be very potent at times (and may even have some kind of impact on a neurogenetic level), observing directional protocols can be of paramount importance, and may make all the difference in sessions that go well vs the ones that may seem to fall off or even be physically agitating for some reason.Certainly. Wrong directional guidance of the energy has proved to be the problem in a lot of energy applications I have engaged myself in. Even though some of the members have heard me say this before, I think it is important to stress the point that such energy fields can indeed turn out to be very potent at times, perhaps potent enough to cause a direct impact on a neurological or even physical level. I learned to respect energy field constitution and direction specifics when at some point some years ago I accidentally prematurely (and very forcefully) awoke kundalini, blowing a very literal hole in my back(1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Goyios/Antonis/b76556e7.jpg), 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Goyios/Antonis/854c6195.jpg)). These pictures where taken about 6-8 months after the incident, and the area doesn't look very different now either.
The direction of *aspiration* tells us where the apex point of triangles should be. Consequently we may know that the generic triangle form of the Yin is the Ascending Triangle where the generic triangle form of the Yang is the Descending. I admit I found this part a bit confusing...I am well aware of the *aspirational* tendencies of Yin and Yang, although concerning representative triangles I have always seen it the other way around, i.e. the apex/singularity of the triangle lying where the root of the element is and the two points (representing the direction of *unfoldment* of the principle) where the element aspires to. Are you saying that the Descending triangle is representative of Yang and the Ascending of Yin? Isn't that against pretty much all conventional symbolism concerning binary (i.e. male/female) elemental depiction/classification? (i.e. Fire and Air always are represented by the Ascnding triangle, Earth & Water by the Descending etc).
Some of this may seem a little complex on the face of it but as you begin to explore it and work with it more it not only gets increasingly lucid but significantly stronger and more robust with time. This is important because, as much as possible, we want to be able to isolate those patterns that tend to *train-in* the best, affording us a *maximum inertia - minimum stress* sort of benefit wherever we can find it...It all looks pretty logical. Some graphic illustrations when the actual article is compiled would be very helpful, although I do get the point of the process. Very interesting. As for the *maximum inertia - minimum stress* principle, I know it very well and consider it equally important.
All of this would be better illustrated with a few graphics, but I have no time for this today. I will probably revisit it when I run an article on the 12 Banners, and/or also as I begin to detail field applications in greater depth. For now, I just want to run this past you because it is apparent that you will be able to make some sense of it and I think you may find this whole thing useful.Very useful really, and I thank you very much for doing so m1thr0s!

Kain

m1thr0s
08-21-2006, 01:15 AM
Are you saying that the Descending triangle is representative of Yang and the Ascending of Yin? Isn't that against pretty much all conventional symbolism concerning binary (i.e. male/female) elemental depiction/classification? (i.e. Fire and Air always are represented by the Ascnding triangle, Earth & Water by the Descending etc). Yes. These are different "elemental" contexts. The traditional 4 elements are depicted more or less the way they behave in a gravity dependant environment. Fire burns from its base and ascends. Water seeks it's lowest level and we can easily envision the image of a mountain lake as representing it. Air is a nobel gas but is perceived as relatively stable, hence the balance line running through it. Earth is similar to Water but is also perceived as more stable than Water. Consider sand trickling through a funnel etc. So the shapes of the 4 cardinal elements are correct relative to how they ordinarily behave in the real world...a world held together by the force of gravity.

Yang and Yin are gravity independant mind/energy "fluxes" so that here we are looking more at principles of "attraction" like with magnetic force to some extent, more evident at a molecular (or a quantum) level. Whatever gravity is involved is involved between them and does not impact them from without as with the 4 cardinal elements. So the symbolism is actually reversed in this instance and should not be confused with the traditional 4 elements. Also bear in mind that we are only talking about two variables in the Yin-Yang Triangles and not 4... The Jen is a separate symbolism altogether.

Perhaps the simplest way to observe their motions is to stack the 4 Binary Bigrams vertically with Strong Yangs in the Above and Strong Yins in the Below. There are only two possible ways to numerate our line values which will yield a proper chronological order. Either of these tracks *flux* values in slightly different ways. If we numerate Yang = 0, Yin = 1: we get the chronological order found in the Tai Hsuan Ching, which runs its count downwards and is tracking the direction of the Yang as it gradually descends into Yin. If we numerate Yin = 0, Yang = 1: we get the Fu Hsi (Earlier Heaven) arrangement which runs its count upwards, tracking the direction of the Yin as it gradually ascends into Yang. In either case we are looking at something whose "gravity" exists internally and is not rooted in any kind of external gravitational force.

It is important to emphasize that there are only two possibilities here and they both tell us something of equal value. Historically, only one of these systems has been given much attention, possibly owing to the natural tendency to want to ascribe 0 to Yins and 1 to Yangs in all instances. Even Liebniz falls prey to this habit and puzzles over the fact that while the Fu Hsi arrangement is exactly chronological, it is also exactly opposite itself in the numbers, since Hexagram #1 becomes #63 in the binary numeration system, while Hexagram #64 = #0. Experienced mutationists understand that the reason for this is that the Fu Hsi arrangement is tracking the chronological ascent of the Yin in the 64 binary hexagrams. It never seems to occur to Liebniz that an alternate possibility might exist allowing for an exact alignment of lines and numbers following the path of the Yang, and indeed, historically, there is precious little supporting it (other than the Tai Hsuan Ching system). Nevertheless, assigning 0 to the Yang is the only correct way to track its chronological propulsion. In any natural chronologial progression of numbers, 0-->1 always denotes forward progression, while 1-->0 always denotes backward. If we cannot agree on this we will never be able to agree on any directional parameters, since everything revolves around this premise. It is simply unproductive to harp on odds and evens at the level of the numbers, since all that really concerns us is lesser and greater numerical sums in chronological analysis.

For what it may be worth, I have come to the personal opinion that the so-called Fu Hsi arrangement never should have been assigned to Fu Hsi at all, but is more properly the Nu Kua arrangement, corresponding to an earlier epic in Chinese history predating the emperor Fu Hsi (the Yellow Emperor) altogether. It is the Yin half of the *Inner World* arrangement, which ultimately presents us with 2 grand totals as opposing only one. Its compliment would more properly be called the Pan Ku arrangement, the mythical husband of Nu Kua whose dead body became the fabric of Heaven and Earth itself. Mathematically, the Pan Ku arrangement would be the inverse compliment of the Yin system, tracking the path of the Yang throughout the 64 binary Hexagrams. It's organization does exist already, embedded in the 729 ternary hexagrams of the Tai Hsuan Ching. If you extrapolate only those hexagrams containing Yin and Yang lines from that system, you get an exact chronological ordering of 64 binary hexagrams which is the balanced opposite of the Nu Kua arrangement. It happens that this theory is not without historical precedent. We have unearthed good evidence to suggest that the Hexagrams themselves predate the historical Fu Hsi by a substantial margin of time, and a number of scholars are already assigning their point of origin to the Nu Kua period. It should also be observed that a parallel duplicity must logically exist within the ternary system as well, since it is mathematically possible to create a balanced inverse of that system, following the same numerical guidelines. Fortunately, we needn't answer all of these questions at once to approach the physics of mutational alchemy with a firm resolve, but it gives us something to consider as we set about organizing around these systems. We might ask ourselves, why is it always 2 great dragons at the foundations of the universe? Perhaps on some level we have always known that this would culminate in 2 great mathematical engineries of creation. At the level of modern genetics, I am reminded of the duplicity of DNA/RNA for instance, so this may become extremely important to know.

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nukua.fuhsi.jpg

Later depictions of Nu Kua had her married off to Fu Hsi, though Pan Ku is her original Husband in fact.
Tell me this doesn't look like a strand of DNA...

Your encounter with misdirected kundalini energy is a stark image indeed Kain. I don't think you ever related this to me before, or if you did I didn't grasp the severity of the situation. You and I are wired a bit differently which is one of the reasons I so much enjoy your perspective. It is also a reminder to me how serious this whole business can be and how important it is to be very certain of our assumptions before risking our asses on them...or other peoples asses for that matter... Fortunately, I am meticulously cautious regarding my own assumptions to begin with, something which has been a real asset to me in my work I think...not that I don't make mistakes...but I do tend to catch them before they get too out of hand. Knowing that you are able to get such powerful energy results to begin with is especially intriguing to me since I am thick as a brick in comparison. Curiously enough I am an energy "sensitive" but it tends to channel through my brain more than my butt, basically...Believe it or not, this is not always an actual advantage but I do get as good a mileage from it as I can.

m1thr0s

Kain
08-22-2006, 11:30 AM
Yes. These are different "elemental" contexts. The traditional 4 elements are depicted more or less the way they behave in a gravity dependant environment. Fire burns from its base and ascends. Water seeks it's lowest level and we can easily envision the image of a mountain lake as representing it. Air is a nobel gas but is perceived as relatively stable, hence the balance line running through it. Earth is similar to Water but is also perceived as more stable than Water. Consider sand trickling through a funnel etc. So the shapes of the 4 cardinal elements are correct relative to how they ordinarily behave in the real world...a world held together by the force of gravity.

Yang and Yin are gravity independant mind/energy "fluxes" so that here we are looking more at principles of "attraction" like with magnetic force to some extent, more evident at a molecular (or a quantum) level. Whatever gravity is involved is involved between them and does not impact them from without as with the 4 cardinal elements. So the symbolism is actually reversed in this instance and should not be confused with the traditional 4 elements. Also bear in mind that we are only talking about two variables in the Yin-Yang Triangles and not 4... The Jen is a separate symbolism altogether. Ah, I now see what you mean, and understand perfectly. I actually perceive it the same way but somehow had never articulated the difference between the two, hence my initial misunderstanding. I actually think your description is exceptionally to the point.
Perhaps the simplest way to observe their motions is to stack the 4 Binary Bigrams vertically with Strong Yangs in the Above and Strong Yins in the Below. There are two ways to numerate our line values which will be tracking fluxes in slightly different ways. If we numerate Yang = 0, Yin = 1: we get the chronological order found in the Tai Hsuan Ching and we will be tracking the direction of the Yang as it gradually descends into Yin. If we numerate Yin = 0, Yang = 1: we get the Fu Hsi (Earlier Heaven) arrangement and here we are tracking the direction of the Yin as it gradually ascends into Yang. In either case we are looking at something whose "gravity" exists internally and is not rooted in any kind of external gravitational force.And also as depicted in Shao Yong's diagram, whether read from top left to bottm right or from bottom right to top left. Indeed, and it's "gravity", being internal, can only be defined as it's innate tendency to aspire to move towards, and meet it's complementary counterpart.
Your encounter with misdirected kundalini energy is a stark image indeed Kain. I don't think you ever related this to me before, or if you did I didn't grasp the severity of the situation. You and I are wired a bit differently which is one of the reasons I so much enjoy your perspective. It is also a reminder to me how serious this whole business can be and how important it is to be very certain of our assumptions before risking our asses on them...or other peoples asses for that matter...Indeed it was an experience which taught me (and actually ascertained that I would remember from there on) the sheer importance and seriousness of this buisness and the decisions accompanying it, and how directly influencial it can all be to your very physical body and existance.

You are right m1thr0s, we are wired a bit differently. It is actually something that also amounts to one of the reasons I so enjoy discussing with you myself...! Your perspective manages to be both different and at the same time exceptionally in accordance with my views and experiences, so it is always of maximum help and informatory value.
Knowing that you are able to get such powerful energy results to begin with is especially intriguing to me since I am thick as a brick in comparison. Curiously enough I am an energy "sensitive" but it tends to channel through my brain more than my butt, basically...Believe it or not, this is not always an actual advantage but I do get as good a mileage from it as I can.

m1thr0sWell, I know a lot of people who experience energy largely "mentally" but equally vividly and are equally sensitive to it...there is something I eventually learned through telekinetics concerning this subject. I think that it is a field of practice that has instrumentally influenced/tuned my connections and internal wirings in respect to perceiving and manipulating energy in ways that readily influence my physical body. What I learned was that the amount of direct influence our energy fields have with our immediate physical environment (and with channelling through our actual physical body) has a lot to do with the amount of *extended* interlaced activity we allow for the 3 bodies (physical, subtle/astral and causal/mental) to have, in relation to the energy fields generated. You see, interlaced activity for the 3 bodies composing the personality is paramount and actually necesary for the self to even function, although for most people, even energy workers, this interlacability occurs up to a point. The bodies are allowed to function semi-independantly and in a parallel, synchronized and sympathetic fashion, but not directly and "fully" bridging the gap between the planes themselves. This is very often a choice, as it can be quite an advantage at points (putting aside direct influence on the physical), as it can allow one's consciousness to experience those planes through one's appropriate body (physical, subtle or causal) without affecting all other aspects composing the self in an absolutely direct and open fashion, which can admitedly be a serious disadvantage at certain points, as integrating/infusing the 3 bodies in one *Body*, and allowing all sensations to reach all regions in equal and unmodified intensity, can be quite frustrating if the conditions are harsh.

The advantage, is that it provides an exceptionally good and optimally utilized vibrational excitor to one's aid, allowing direct influencial assistance from the higher to the lower planes. This means that sensations no longer follow their partially indirect way of *conveying* their properties from the frequency spectrum of one plane to another and reducing their frequency accordingly, but act as an actual excitor of direct vibrational influence, a "manifest possitive pole" of gigantic proportions. In this fashion, the 3 bodies's influences are synergistically brought together on the same location, not just a parralel location. So, while in the parralel working the practitioner utilizes the harmonic tendencies between planes, thus affecting manipulation through those harmonics ( = ), the direct interlacablity would achieve an actual slight "breach" of sorts( x )

Perhaps it is a bit hard to understand at first, as I am not sure if I am describing this correctly, but I feel this to be a major reason for the (surface) difference between energy manipulators who are radically and directly affecting their own physical body and surroundings and for those who, while being equally, if not more proficient, seemingly have no such direct effect. You see, it is often not so much a matter of built power and vibratory frequency per se, but more like a matter of the habit/tendency of conveying the said vibration with or without intermediate convertions. The construct/field is there, but there are various ways of directing that built charge and momentum...so "parallel" workings can function equally well with the less common "directly interlaced" ones, but are more profficient in different tasks.

Kain

EDIT: I see you made an addition to your last post, m1thr0s. I fully agree with everything said concerning the chronological arrangement of both the Binary and Ternary system, and their respective complementary arrangements of course. By the way, the image you related is indeed astonishingly similar to a DNA strand...

m1thr0s
08-22-2006, 05:54 PM
For the benefit of visual learners (like myself) I am including the following graphic illustration outlining the principles of ascension and descension in the 4 Binary Bigrams. Despite its importance, and despite the fact that there is a tremendous amount riding on a proper understanding of this principle, you will be hard-pressed to find any intelligent conversation of it anywhere. Bits and pieces here and there of course, but almost nothing comprehensive...

http://abrahadabra.com/images/bigrammaton02.jpg

Ok...this is a very simple glyph but it packs several megatons of extremely relevant data. I can't even begin to get to the first layer of it all right here and won't even try but there are a few things that almost have to be pointed out. The first thing to be observed is that what applies to the 4 cardinal bigrams applies straight across the board from single lines to hexagrams either in the binary system or the greater ternary. So long as we are placing Heaven in the Above and Earth in the Below, these rules of chronology will always apply...even though we do not find a balanced expression of them in effect throughout the entire known history of I Ching and related cosmological constructs. You have to learn to think for yourself in this game or just throw in the towel at the outset since there are many things of great importance never dealt with properly from a strictly historical perspective. The beauty of this particular language is that we are not limited to these perspectives but can, in point of fact, consult the numbers directly.

An astute observer probably will have noticed that we could just flip our poles around and get an entirely opposite set of rules, or rather the same rules operating in exact reverse, and this is true. It is also mathematically possible for us all to be walking about on our hands instead of our feet, but there are some very practical considerations involved as to why the majority of us have declined this option. In general, our first order of business with any kind of transmutational energy work is to approach things such as they are before getting drawn off into variations upon themes which may, in fact, consume several hundred lifetimes to even begin to exhaust. Most of us simply don't have that kind of time to invest, and even if we did, beginning from a proper beginning will still prove an advantage to us in many other ways. Because Heaven normally resides in the Above and Earth in the Below and because Man is a balanced microcosm of that extended macrocosm, and because of the need to achieve as good a synchronization in as short a span as possible, it is generally adviseable to adhere to the directional standards above. Nevertheless, there are almost certainly very useful applications to be found in every logical variation available to us.

Not everything I will present in this thesis has an easy answer or amounts to a finished thinking. There are some things that we are confronted with that simply confound us on certain levels to which the answers are not yet crystal clear. One of these has to do with the differences between Eastern Elements and Western, as we began discussing earlier in this topic. A few astute readers may have already observed that neither chronological arrangement of bigrams offered up here correspond exactly with the 4 Elemental Worlds system of the Qabbalistic Tree of Life. In the Tree, elements clearly descend from Fire-->Water-->Air-->Earth, whereas here we get either Fire-->Earth-->Air-->Water on the Yin side or else Fire-->Air-->Earth-->Water on the Yang side. This observation would be correct and the answer is not an entirely convenient one. The Chinese system of elements is not like the system of elements found anywhere else in the known world, because they seem to have rejected the notion of the 4 Cardinal Elements as pertaining to the Bigrams in general and opted for another approach altogether. In part this is because systems like the I Ching are not really tracking matter so much as they are tracking motion. I am never entirely comfortable with the idea of assigning the 4 cardinal elements to the Bigrams, even though we are justified in doing so from the standpoint of simple arithmetic. It is possible that we should ultimately take the time to come up with a different elemental expression for these values altogether, so I just want to toss that out in case anyone has noticed this and is feeling like the only person in the whole world who might be having a problem with it. This is a known problem, and one that has not produced an easy solution yet, that I know of. What we do know, and what we should do, is to make a clear distinction in our own minds between Eastern and Western elemental contexts.

There are many other aspects to delve into but I want to save most of that for future topics. We have breached the matter of elemental differences in this thread so it is befitting to address that right here, at least a little.

m1thr0s

Anibis
09-22-2006, 10:01 AM
I've been holding out on contributing to this thread. There is so much of interest going on in the forums and I haven't even got a chance to read through it all. Perserverance furthers, I'spose.

There are a couple things of major interest going on for me here. First of all though, I'd have to say that I do not really know the material on DNA mapping, so that's up in the air for now. Maybe the forum will attract a real specialist on the matter, who can give us some sense of laboratory applications of this material.

First of all, Kain, I have to say I find what you write about "Parallel & United" approaches to the three bodies to be incredibly interesting, and quite clear:

Well, I know a lot of people who experience energy largely "mentally" but equally vividly and are equally sensitive to it...there is something I eventually learned through telekinetics concerning this subject. I think that it is a field of practice that has instrumentally influenced/tuned my connections and internal wirings in respect to perceiving and manipulating energy in ways that readily influence my physical body. What I learned was that the amount of direct influence our energy fields have with our immediate physical environment (and with channelling through our actual physical body) has a lot to do with the amount of *extended* interlaced activity we allow for the 3 bodies (physical, subtle/astral and causal/mental) to have, in relation to the energy fields generated. You see, interlaced activity for the 3 bodies composing the personality is paramount and actually necesary for the self to even function, although for most people, even energy workers, this interlacability occurs up to a point. The bodies are allowed to function semi-independantly and in a parallel, synchronized and sympathetic fashion, but not directly and "fully" bridging the gap between the planes themselves. This is very often a choice, as it can be quite an advantage at points (putting aside direct influence on the physical), as it can allow one's consciousness to experience those planes through one's appropriate body (physical, subtle or causal) without affecting all other aspects composing the self in an absolutely direct and open fashion, which can admitedly be a serious disadvantage at certain points, as integrating/infusing the 3 bodies in one *Body*, and allowing all sensations to reach all regions in equal and unmodified intensity, can be quite frustrating if the conditions are harsh.

Wild! This is a believable account of the mutability of physical laws, something which I tend to be skeptical about. I am a magician who tends to lean towards subtleties, and to cock an eyebrow at people who claim to be able to fly or throw things about with their minds. Don't get me wrong, weirdness happens, It is just very rarely THAT weird. One thing I liked about the portrayal of Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, is that he only actually does anything impossible ONCE, and that is when he creates a sort of Flare when they are snowed in by the mountain near Moriah. Then he says something like: "Well I might have just written "Gandalf was Here", all over the place". The rest of the time he proceeds by wisdom, coincidence, and 'subtle magick'. I do not mean at all to denigrate the approach you have described. It makes sense, if you were to totally collapse the separation between mind, body, and unconscious, you would have some serious siddhi's on the go, but at the same time, YIKES, That could not be terribly comfortable, and you would need to be very ballanced to keep afloat. The parallel method allows, I think for more of a margin of error, since you can experiment in one field in an isolated fashion before determining to impliment the results. Just a question then, Kain, what kind of measures do you need to take to stay 'on the level' in terms of working with a fully interlaced threefold body? What are the essential practices that enable you to do so without loss of ballance? Would you say that the full interlacing is somewhere that we are all heading towards, or is it vice versa, or something else alltogether. I for one can now see it as an option, but I'm not sure it's one I will necessarily take. Tell me more, I'm facinated.

Okay, M1thr0s has brought up the 'Bi-directional method', which I mentioned to him. This might be a way, Kain, of coordinating the parrallel bodies such that they move in tandem, on the one hand, without requiring 'translation', but on the other hand being totally de-interlaced (and still functional). I need to think about that more. Basically, WHen I encounter opposites, I tend on to try to avoid priviledging one of them if I can. This often involves a sort of energy ambidexterity. The simplest example may well be with a Hexagram. Lets take # 13.

When we build it, we can do so from the ground up, or from the top down. This makes a bit of a difference in terms of what it is we are doing. I consider it the difference between Uncovering (bottom up) and Implementing (top down). As you know, traditionally, the I Ching takes the first approach, while the THC takes the second. We however, are in a position to select either direction in either system. We can also, following the ternary logic, take a third option, which is to build in both directions at once. Theres a couple things you could do with this. Firstly you could build from both directions to the centre, thus constructing a full hexagram in half the time, OR you could continue though and build two Hexagrams in one. Also Since M1thr0s has mentioned his use of double Hexagrams to create a 'zeroing effect'. This can be done by essentially putting yourself intoa a magen star, and as you build the hexagram, you picture the yin line in one triad (I usually take the descending triangle) and the yang line in the other. Thus each line is paired with it's inverse. By the time you build a single hexagram, you have two, each the opposite of the other. (this works from the top to bottom, or from the bottom to top: if you build in both directions, you can create four at once). If you built hex 13 from the top down, while constructing the same lines from the bottom up, after six stages, you would have both hexagram 13 and hexagram 14. that is, inverted hexagrams. If you used the 'oppositional method' at the same time, you would also create hexagrams 7 and 8.

I hope this is somewhat clear. It becomes useful also in adressing the issue of Whether to run the NU KUA arrangement from Kun through Ch'ien, or vice versa: you can do both at once. I Use this method all the time. I use it with the tarot, in pairing opposite paths and I use it with the twinstar. I consider it to be a sort of ambidexterity, and it has a nice ability to add the Jen component to a method that tends to be either 'one way or the other'.

-Ibisis-

If this needs clarification, let me know.
Notice that I have pointed at two different approaches to this third method: the one is to build Yin and Yang silmultaneously, and the other is to build from the top to bottom and the bottom to top silmultaneously. Using BOTH these methods at once will produce the 4 hexagrams in 6 steps.
Working with the Abrahadabra key is one good way to effect this ambidexterity. It definitely takes some practice to be able to picture all this at once.

MythMath
09-23-2006, 02:26 AM
Okay, M1thr0s has brought up the 'Bi-directional method', which I mentioned to him.

This might be a way, Kain, of coordinating the parallel bodies such that
they move in tandem, on the one hand, without requiring 'translation',
but on the other hand being totally de-interlaced (and still functional).

Basically, When I encounter opposites,
I tend on to try to avoid priviledging one of them if I can.
This often involves a sort of energy ambidexterity.

All of this seems very familiar...

ambigrams:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram

I used to design these 'word inversions' some 20-odd
years ago after receiving the Scott Kim book as a gift...

I think that the process of exploring those methods and forms
has greatly informed much of the work I have done since...

[Including music composition, as well as designing and building
musical instruments, kaleidoscopes, zoetropes and boomerangs...]

It undoubtedly was the key to discovering one of the primary
methods of arranging the tones for making kymotropes...

The recent Tzolkin kymotrope is a prime example:
http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=354

It may be inevitable for a Gemini named Bob, but I've
always been drawn to the symmetry of palindromes...:rolleyes:

Anibis
09-23-2006, 04:13 PM
It may be inevitable for a Gemini named Bob, but I've
always been drawn to the symmetry of palindromes...:rolleyes:

That's funny. My favorite is 'racecar'. Cheers;
-Ibisis

MythMath
09-23-2006, 05:56 PM
A rather long one that I like is:
A man, a plan, a canal; Panama...
___________________________

And there are some interesting 'phonetic' palindromes
for all you satanic backmaskers out there, too...

If you record certain phrases and then reverse
them, you'll get the same phrase on playback...

1. we revere you

2. ominous cinema

3. next chicken
_________________

And in a somewhat similar spirit:

Number Nine / Turn me on, Dead Man
.

Kain
09-23-2006, 08:53 PM
Just a question then, Kain, what kind of measures do you need to take to stay 'on the level' in terms of working with a fully interlaced threefold body? What are the essential practices that enable you to do so without loss of ballance? Would you say that the full interlacing is somewhere that we are all heading towards, or is it vice versa, or something else alltogether. I for one can now see it as an option, but I'm not sure it's one I will necessarily take. Tell me more, I'm facinated.Since this particular thread was intended for the relationship between the I Ching and DNA and my response has turned out to be rather long, I decided to make a seperate thread so as not to hijack m1thr0s's immediate thread and related discussion. I'll post it under the title Inter-Plane/Body Relations (http://www.forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?p=3112#post3112).

I hope you don't have a problem with that Ibisis,

Kain

MythMath
09-23-2006, 09:32 PM
Kain, et al.

Sorry for my hijack...

I'll be more careful in the future...

MM

Kain
09-24-2006, 08:12 AM
Kain, et al.

Sorry for my hijack...

I'll be more careful in the future...

MMNo reason to be sorry at all MythMath, I just thought that my own post would be too much for this thread and built a new thread for it. I don't think any of us have in any way hijacked the thread, but I was afraid it might go that way for me. You see, it is the way of discussion to open "mental brackets" and that can be seen in the progress of a forum thread as well, as people expand on something else, then return on the original topic, then something else that is quite interesting may come up and be pursued etc... Your input is very much valued and nothing wrong was done, so no reason to applologise :)

Kain

Luciftias
09-24-2006, 09:51 AM
I have played around with the I Ching a little bit, but am not very familiar with it. I found the concept of nuclear hexagrams interesting. Here is your diagram:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/nuclears02.gif

Have you ever thought about how the nuclear hexagrams relate to the three principal elements of alchemy? I imagine you must have. It seems to fit perfectly. The way I see it, the Yin hexagram would relate to Salt and the Yang hexagram would be Mercury. The Before and After Creation hexagram pair would be Sulphur. It fits quite well considering that Sulphur is the element that allows the other two elements to bind. Also, there are two parts to the Sulphur, the volitile and the fixed. In plant alchemy, the volitile would be the essential oil and the fixed would be the other oily parts. The volitile Sulphur easily binds with the Mercury. The fixed Sulphur is in the form of a kind of Salt when purified.

Luciftias

Kain
09-24-2006, 10:18 AM
That's a really good point Luciftias and I have noticed this too in the past. The two systems do seem to fit perfectly...

Kain

m1thr0s
09-26-2006, 03:27 AM
Yes, Luciftias...a perfect fit. There are other powerful Supernal or Triune parallels as well...quite a few of them actually. And one of the things that is especially compelling about the Nuclear Hexagrams is the math itself...that here we have a well defined Tri-Unity Principle that is coming at us right in the numbers, yet affects us even on the subtlest of physical planes. Ayurvedic Doctrine speaks of the 3 Gunas (which we have touched on elsewhere) but even with the Gunas it could be argued (and has been) that the division into 3 principal arteries, or pathways is ultimately arbitrary and subjective. Ok, maybe so. Maybe there is nothing human beings can experience or know that is not subjective in some way but here in the Nuclear Hexagrams this argument falls flat on its face since the degree of "subjectivity" in this instance is nominal-to-none at all...

So we have a force to contend with here. A powerful standard to be reckoned with I think...We can build around this standard confident in our starting assumptions, recognizing that virtually everything of merit comes into perfect compliance with this "first" principle.

m1thr0s

Amur
09-28-2006, 06:00 AM
Looking at how genes, together with the astronomical aspect defines our life in a way, it wouldn't be surprising to find that one could get the connection line back Home from the origin point one has travelled from to Earth. Getting this line up would get ppl to become themselves reincarnated as they are. But this is all just highly speculative. Perhaps something to look into if you are into the area..

m1thr0s
10-11-2006, 02:20 PM
I see from your new avatar you have become one with the Great White Brotherhood Amur! lol...

You know...the Chinese say that white is the true color of evil! They say it has no soul...
aaarrrggghhh...I just knew being white was a karmic payback...

m1thr0s

Amur
10-12-2006, 03:09 PM
I see from your new avatar you have become one with the Great White Brotherhood Amur! lol...

You know...the Chinese say that white is the true color of evil! They say it has no soul...
aaarrrggghhh...I just knew being white was a karmic payback...


It's kinda dull honestly. So I think I'll go Genocyde and make it flip black&white really fast :D Personally I'm more attracted to black as it's more interesting and cozy.

It's funny that Chinese say that white is the true color of evil, I couldn't agree more lol. Looking at what the whitemen has done to the planet and what their opinion is about black generally and they and their !#"¤%(Christ). Now go and tell a black man that black is all about evil rofl. Would be delightful to drop a few racists into the jungles of mother africa :D

And interesting thing might perhaps be that from a perspective of light-mechanics, when one adds up the light particles it becomes whit e light and then black uv light rofl. When adding materia colors together, when one mixes them all it becomes black. So here's the same heavenly paradox again. The native americans say that it's the Divine Material Reality. The Indians are lost in their India Ganja Psychedelic Recursion. I won't even begin about the Christians worshipping Satan Himself rofl. The Chinese have their dragons hmm.. North-Korea has Kim Bomb something sitting on top of their superior plan. Looks like everyone are more or less insane, even the gods as well as their fellow labouring men. Perhaps the more Wise gods have vanished and been lost in the tides of history. The North-pole is actually the magnetic south pole, and the south-pole is the magnetic north pole, now what the hell?!? The same most go for men as they are ACTUALLY females and females are males. Let's see now. Females go through alot of physical labour and pain, seems to check quite good. *grin*.

Seriously I seem to go Bluer for everyday. Must be the O'z in the air :D

Sorry for taking this off-topic. I would like to add that I-Ching and the genetic code offers a whole new perspective over things. They apparently have the genes mapped quite well on computers nowadays. Though it's still a whole lot of information to break through. Wonder if Earth/Trees had something to add about this, as it atleast appears to me that the planet has had it all designed. Or so it has appeared to me from all the tree hugging :D

MythMath
03-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Not sure where this should be posted:

3x3 Square and DNA

http://www.tomshinsky.com/page803.html

m1thr0s
03-04-2007, 11:22 PM
I've seen this guy's stuff before. Never could understand why he fails to connect his work with the work of others along these lines. There's a few good bits in there though...

He makes a few statements like this:
In "The Richard Wilhelm Translation of the I Ching" there is a trigram wheel called the "Fu Hsi Sequence of Earlier Heaven". It dates back 3,000 years. It is symmetrical, but does not follow an exact numerical order.I have no idea what he's talking about since it is in fact the King Wen sequence that lacks numerical continuity, not the Fu Hsi sequence. But the I Ching is vast and nearly anyone who engages it with any intensity latches onto something...often very unique insights never before published at large...

m1thr0s

Kain
03-05-2007, 08:53 AM
Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting that MythMath...

Kain