My Problem With Ningishzidda

[Naomi]

My cosmological model is more akin to the Taijitu and Taoist beliefs than anything else. There is no way I could not be called a Taoist, and during the time I've known both Chaos Magick and Taoism, I have become convinced Taoism is the ultimate and original "Chaos Magick", truly free from prejudice and doubt (about the true nature of reality). Chaos Magick may simply not be what it advertises itself as, and truly just pure Discordianism, for those who don't wish to jump in as a full fledged troublemaker in the world. Chaotes and Coyotes all serve Eris eventually, of this I am convinced, and she's no mythical figure, more like an irrepressible emotional reaction of Shakti herself, to borrow from the Hinduist meme. This is, after all, one of the luxuries Chaos Magick allows any magician to do - to borrow and streal with no concern towards such human mind diseases as "tradition" and and "purity".

People find my ideas strange, bizarre, often appealing and downright offensive to those with a hardened sense of division amongst religion and rite. I'll stick Durga in with Ningishzidda if I want to. They're only seperated by Pakistan for fuck's sakes....Athena can be Grandfather Coyote's (Mica) arch enemy despite being continents away - do such beings play only in their own neighborhoods, or are we going to allow them galaxy sized conquests? If not perhaps they were never worth following in the first place. Ningishizidda IS over 70,000 galaxies, and only god (HAHAHA) knows how many he owns. Yes, owns...I'mnot going to bother trying to parry with the New Age idea of freedom, peace and love outdating ownership. Even the Indians know that Ananta is so *real* and owns everything in this universe, humans, yes, us, don't even actually exist...we just think we do, arising and dissolving as thoughts with a life of their own. I'm very comfortable with that, myself. It doesn't make sense, but I am. Not existing, and realizing that seems to put me closer to void than anything else. That feeling of dissolving into nothing is wonderful, while being tethered back by the sheer power of whatever maintains my physical body. Shakti, Siva, vishnu and Brahma replaced by the downloads from the Parabrahman.

There it is, as well - these are not my ideas. There's something else out there, whether we can see it or not, some people - like myself- can. The trends in history all revealed as motions of other intelligences is an ancient concept, one we may have too easily discarded in the industrial ad cultural revolutions. Scary to think, perhaps, that all of this enviromental devastation business is as driven by an intelligence, and one much smarter, older and powerful than most human minds on the planet. You won't even know you're being fooled - it's faster and smart than you and it wants you to serve it or die. You have no chance to survive alone. That's why I ignore the pride of the males in my life who don't believe in allying with forces that are not human. They would not look at it that way - they just don't like "gods" even though as a Suitheist, I regard other humans as gods anyways, so it makes no difference if he or she is apparently corporeal or not.

I havn't had contact with Ningishzidda for about four days. The solar cycle, the first loop in the continuing weave that is my comittment to Ningishzidda occurs in a few days, finally fulfilling the 'year and a day' clause that binds heaven and earth in magickal workings.

Ningishzidda's team is pretty solid, I like them all - even some of his enemies are likeable when they want to be, although I trust any of them about as far as I trust a deadly virus....

[Naomi]

"And too, through the many months of travel, Tomoe had beheld many wonders in rapid succession -- a merchant's mountainous dromedary which spat acid at highway robbers; a strange, loathsome fish which crawled out of a lake at night and gobbled up the embers of a campfire; a fox which, startled, turned into a red thrush and flew into the sun; a rattle set of bones, anciently enclosed in an amber, translucent tomb; a dragon's scale cast by a magician into a bowl of water, turned into a goldfish for his little girl; and other such-- so that she was jaded to the shifts and experiences which blended one into the next, none recalled daily, some never jarred to memory at all."

Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Tomoe Gozen


Ningishzidda is my hobby, I guess, if you could call the idea of following the will of heaven a hobby. In this materialistic world that may not seem so rediculous. I can't trust my inner voice at times like this. I get one story from that and another story that makes more logical sense from the Twinstar or the P'an Ku mirror. On occasion, I can't make contact with Ningishzidda no matter how hard I try, and the silence is scary to me. I don't ever want to go back to the way things were before. I'm so afraid of forgetting who I am and falling in one of the many pits along the path to enlightenment, you could say that cling to Ningishzidda as hard as a Buddhist monk avoids the opposite sex. Except for the part where I need to maintaint he exclusivity of the consciousness awareness.

This world is all wrong, and insidiously so. People care for things that are unimportant and parade them as the things that really matter, when they are not. This only serves to compound the unhappiness.

My deal with Ningishzidda enables me to feel true happiness constantly, the only real dissatisfaction I find is during times like this, when the communication between me and the sky is poor and less stable parts of consciousness are given free reign. It may be a window of oppurtunity, like Samhain, where one risks a parting of the veils to gain some small win in the game. Crossroads, gear shifting, cracks in the sidewalk, these are all good symbols for that type of maneuver. The only thing that can carry you through is a strong set of ethics. I think ethics are very important to playing the game itself, if you have certain lines you never cross and you reassert them, you can never be distanced very far from your true self...that's how I think I've played all of these years and I continue to.

[Amur]

I am God and I have the whole Creation :laugh: Nah, just brings to mind someone who bragged to me that they have over 10,000 solar systems and I replied that I have Infinite solar systems. Then they told me 'what is earth but one of those 10,000 so why couldn't we abuse it' and I told them that "line up 10,000 humans and then rape one of them".

But anyway, if Ningishziddan's race is behind the whole DNA-technology and the creation of DNA in itself then I think that those planets with DNA technology should be left alone and in harmony instead of going there and messing them up. Even shamans say that "great whale-like bodies came from space to escape an enemy and settled on this planet resting and creating the entire planet". Atleast my own attitude is that if someone is already on a planet and has it owned and created a very intrinsic web of life there, then it's quite the crime to go to that planet and take it over from them and start generally messing things up. I feel that was what happened on this planet.

[Naomi]

It's no more a brag than saying you have two lungs, a heart, a liver, a pair of eyes....

I was inquiring about his physical makeup since I couldn't understand how he was working - "the spirit world" is a lousy answer for me and I know there is a mode of operation for every phenomenon. I had good reason to believe I was not creating the phenomenon myself (alone) and therefore I was certain another creature - a living being was involved.

As far as I can tell Ningishzidda is unique, at his level of development his 'species" is shared only by other creatures that encompass thousands, even millions of worlds like this one.

Someone may lay claim to everything in the entire universe, but can they certify ownership by being able to care for it all?

Self proclaimed shamans say ALOT of things, that doesn't mean I take them seriously.

If you're saying Ng is here creating trouble then you havn't been paying attention - look at the historical record and the symbology associated with Ningishzidda. I don't see any evidence that he is in any way anything as campy and absurd as a member of an ancient alien race like on Star Trek, I mean puhleaase, how unimaginative. Only humans could come up with something THAT boring.

I'm not really that focused on how much power Ningishzidda has or how big his garden is, I just know I have really fantastic sex when he's around so you know, maybe that's all that matters when you own the entire universe...I mean I have been in that state of mind and it's nothing but sex and babies, really...and then you know, you have to find a place to put them so that could be the entire reason for the existence of space itself...

[Amur]

Don't be ignorant Naomi, you know that Ningishzidda created alot of wonderful things on this planet, it isn't Ng that made the planet like it is today. And he's certainly a Friend of the whale-like species that created all the life on this and other planets with DNA-technology. What I don't accept are those who came here afterwards and lay claim to this planet and diffused the communications lines and what not and made a real mess out of this place and when I start fixing it up for them so that they could have things a little better they try to make me into somekind of Christ and what not bullshit gah. Kinda disturbing to be honest. And when I start doing these things they want to give me alot of Glory and what not bullshit and I'm again like "argh".

Perhaps you should ignite your own Kundalini, that would fill your sexual desires up on a total perspective, as that's what Kundalini does, it fills holes up.

What I didn't like about the brag was that they thought they had very many planets under their control and thought that they were so Powerful, and when I replied that I am God and I have Infinite Planets they kind of shut up.

Btw, what is actually very funny is that I'm a self-proclaimed shaman (no spirit have told me that I am a shaman) but not a self-proclaimed Prophet :laugh:

[Naomi]

go fuck yourself then Amur, i have my own beliefs and they don't include whale like species from outer space and how you're some kind of christ...or whatever

[Amur]

go fuck yourself then Amur, i have my own beliefs and they don't include whale like species from outer space and how you're some kind of christ...or whatever

Heh, did you even read the text that I wrote? They tried to make me into Christ, even though I've always known that I'm not, just because of some thing that got done. And I was quite empained by this and by their beliefs and am quite fond of them dropping it really. And I'm not trying to impose my own beliefs on your beliefs, I've merely just stated things I've read about and experienced myself.

And the whale like species were very benevolent and friendly and had alot of ancient wisdom to share and to give to those who wanted to listen to them.

Btw, I've never taken that Prophet thing all too serious anyway, as many who get into that kinds of things get their ego blown through the roof which is quite against the whole thing really, which is really why I think humbleness is so good for myself (even though I've gone quite against it also).

I must say that I do apologize to very many of what has come through me on energetical levels and so forth as I have been very badly abused on this levels and they've used it to attack others through me, which I'm really sad about in the first place and wouldn't have liked to happen at all. I'm also apologizing for some sexual energy that was projected through a post toward you even though it wasn't my intention of it do be done as I've been abused that way also. But the best wishes to you :)

[Naomi]

ok I smacked my forehead irl and walked away....ill be back later...maybe after coffee...

[Naomi]

Ok Amur it's the "they" who the hell is "they" anyways? Space aliens? If you havn't figured it out by now I'm sick of space aliens. I want to explore what the human potential has to offer this world. And by that I mean dropping the whole "us" vs "them" scenario. It's all us, that's what I believe. You can disagree if you like, but don't tell me some nebulous "them" is out there conspiring against me because it's just bullshit to me, even with my own past life inner workings and other ophidious clues left to me I have no way to tell how real your very very far out (and unappealing) reality is...

I mean, your understanding of chakras is whacked so how am I supposed to react when you tell me to awaken my kundalini, when I already went through that shit years ago. It's rediculous.

I get literally a dozen men hitting on me every single day Amur, it's nothing new to me so you know, just forget about it, I don't care.

and my coffee is five hours old, so you know, maybe I am not the most logical thing around since I don't even drink my coffee when it's fresh...I'm not trying to insult anybody just calling it how I see it...