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Naomi
04-10-2008, 11:50 AM
This is amazing, this woman discovered a giant stone python head outside of a cave that was used 70,000 years ago. The San people sacrificed arrowheads to it and still hold the mountains sacred to this day. OH, the area of northwestern Botswana where this was found is called Ngamiland.

Full Article (written 2006):

http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2006_4/Artikler/python_english


A new archaeological find in Botswana shows that our ancestors in Africa engaged in ritual practice 70,000 years ago — 30,000 years earlier than the oldest finds in Europe. This sensational discovery strengthens Africa’s position as the cradle of modern man.
Tekst: Yngve Vogt. Translated by Alan Louis Belardinelli
A startling archaeological discovery this summer changes our understanding of human history. While, up until now, scholars have largely held that man’s first rituals were carried out over 40, 000 years ago in Europe, it now appears that they were wrong about both the time and place.
Associate Professor Sheila Coulson, from the University of Oslo, can now show that modern humans, Homo sapiens, have performed advanced rituals in Africa for 70,000 years. She has, in other words, discovered mankind’s oldest known ritual.
The archaeologist from the Department of Archaeology, Conservation, and Historical Studies, made the surprising discovery while she was studying the origin of the Sanpeople in cooperation with the University of Tromsø, Norway, and the University of Botswana. A group of the San live in the sparsely inhabited area of north-western Botswana known as Ngamiland.
Coulson made the discovery while searching for artifacts from the Middle Stone Age in the only hills present for hundreds of kilometers in any direction. This group of small peaks within the Kalahari Desert is known as the Tsodilo Hills and is famous for having the largest concentration of rock paintings in the world. The more than 3,500 paintings, some more than 1,500 years old, constitute an important piece of our cultural heritage and are the reason that Tsodilo is listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.



“Sheila Coulson’s discovery is going to garner attention the world over. This is the oldest ritual site that we know of and it was in use before physically modern man left Africa”, Ørmen points out. He explains that the San, who are also referred to as Bushmen, belong to the most ancient race of humans. The San, together with the Khoi (or Khoikhoi), separated from the rest of the worlds people about 70,000 years ago. Today they are commonly refered to as the Khoi-San people. The Khoi and the San are quite similar and were displaced by both the Europeans and the Bantu before and during colonization.

Darin Hamel
04-11-2008, 11:29 AM
Thats amazing!

m1thr0s
04-11-2008, 06:10 PM
Ngamiland? You've gotta be kidding me...

that rather qualifies as weird in my world...

wonder if there is any connection to the San and what (much) later came to be called Sanskrit...

good snag naomi...70,000 years...that's right around the time of the so-called "population bottleneck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck)" where all but a few thousand humans are purported to have died in a major (Toba) super-volcanic catastrophe... see: toba catastrophe theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory)

which means people may have traveled these great distances and made these ornate sacrifices in an attempt to rekindle their bloodlines...

m1

Naomi
04-12-2008, 12:48 AM
That's really interesting m1thr0s, thanks.

I am excited to find a connection between snakes and genetics going so far back and so obvious.

Darkwater
04-15-2008, 06:10 AM
Awesome,this is *the tribe* before we moved to India.N'ga N'ga,clickety click click(noise you would make to a horse) bird calls,hisses & some old Pre Sumarian.

& flutes,maybe?

My heart swells for you.

Naomi
05-09-2008, 01:25 AM
You know, I was over at Enenuru recently watching some Sumerian vids posted by us4-he2-gal2 and I noticed something on the epic of Gilgamesh...I've read it before, but I couldn't pass up a chance to hear it read aloud, I love audio documentation because I can paint while studying, it really frees up my time.

First I want to say that hearing these things in audio adds a whole new dimension of reality to the mix and it was really fucking enjoyable listening to the Epic and watching pictures of the art from Sumer paired with the New York accent of the guy reading off the text.

So I got to thinking that Gilgamesh was a whole lot larger than the normal humans, but perhaps he was just an ordinary everyday modern human who kind of ruled over a bunch of shorties....he was allowed to fuck whoever he wanted (because he was so big no one could argue with him if he wanted to screw your girlfriend) and furthermore after he became King or whatever, don't you think people would have noticed he was throwing kids as big as he was most of the time? It was said in the epic that Gilgamesh was the first one to fuck a married girl before her marriage partner, so that would mean the dominant genes in the epic are getting thrown around by this freak of nature (ie Gilgamesh) interestingly enough, the guy meets another human his same size and they go on a quest for eternal life or something, I didn't get that far yet but it sounds like the Ningishzidda story that's floating around where Ng tries to give some guy the elixir of life and he refuses?

I don't know...anyhoo....

Darkwater
05-09-2008, 07:29 AM
Sounds amazing Naomi,I wouldn't mind a listen to that myself.

Is their a link?

No doubt the guy had his reasons.....

Naomi
05-09-2008, 11:52 AM
YouTube - The Epic of Gilgamesh #1

Xirru-Eno
09-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Naomi, Thanks alot. That was fantastic. His voice was relatively monotone but somehow it just added to it!

I've been wanting to look into (uber) ancient history, like the beginnings of calculated human thought expressed and art. I have no idea where to start, but this was a good place. :P

Xirry