The Activism Forum...

[m1thr0s]

I have been thinking about creating this forum for some time but have held back, having seen what a mess of things is often made of it by the hate peddlars and conspiracy psychonauts among us...and it's usually delirious to the point of having no place at all in any reality-oriented occult scene.

But there is a big difference between bitching about the weather and discussing what can be done in lieu of it and I believe that America has entered a kind of *chapel perilous* that will not resolve itself unless or until people take back what has been taken from them and put things to right from the ground up...Where America goes, much of the world will follow, whether it wants to or not...and where any blatant tyranny is riding high on the hog, this can only send a signal to all potential tyrannies that the global political climate will sustain them, no matter what.

In occultism we talk a lot about self-responsibility and I think that at some point this has to be applied evenly on all fronts or it is a sham, essentially...an escapism that cannot even distinguish a legitimate escape. That doesn't mean one has to run out and join up with every save-the-world campaign going down since I think it's fair to say that a lot of these are just plain stupid.

But some issues are so severe and so prevalent as to absolutely demand some kind of solution and when things reach that pass...when necessity itself is calling the shots...I think we have an obligation to at least be aware of what is happening and if there are things within our means to do, we really ought to do them...

So to that end...within the general groove of *knowing one's will and doing it*, I am going to give this forum a shot. I want people to make every effort to focus on possible solutions to whatever issues they choose to examine or this forum will just be a waste of bandwidth...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Good call, m1thr0s...
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I'm not going to start a new thread
(move this though, if you want),
but I want to give public props to my wife...

She's a stalwart member of our local Peace movement, and as
a UU member, she's involved in many inter-related activities...

The first Saturday of each month, she's demonstrating
in front our Courthouse & City/County Building...

And in the last couple of years, she's ridden along
twice with the group to marches in Washington, DC...

(Between her activities and my weird netsurfing, I'm
sure we're on a couple of 'lists' - Hi, Uncle Sam...! :laugh: :p)

One of the unfortunate things however, is that because
their group is so multi-factioned, there is a lack of unity...

There's a fair amount of disorganization and some
squabbling about where to focus their energies...

Some of the members are military veterans and are
primarily 'anti-war', some of the members are 'anti-bush',
some of them 'anti-govt', and some of them wish all these
pissed-off 'anti-ists' would just agree that being 'pro-peace'
might be the most effective way to express their message...
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And there may even be a 'mole' in their ranks, oh the intrigue...

[m1thr0s]

I've seen a trend developing that seems promising, where certain issues are becoming more spearheaded by professional people who can lend that extra amount of credibility necessary to cause the average person to think twice...this kind of guerrilla networking among professional classes is a very good omen if it continues, and it also takes the heat off of everybody else in the sense that it provides us with a professional *team* to rally behind...something often lacking in many grass-root movements...

I grew up in the Bay Area in the post-*people's park* era and I remember all too well what a page out of comic-book hell everything was back then...Berkeley became so damn pseudo-political it was outright nauseating...white panthers et al...give me a freaking break...dozens and dozens of these kinds of groups and a feeling that if you didn't belong to at least 3 of these phony-baloney organizations, you obviously just weren't cool at all...

In an environment like that the best organization to belong to is none at all and that's pretty well how I played it...but that was then and political organizing was a lot more of a game back then anyway...

today is a very different situation...we've run out of time on a lot of things.

m1

[fr.novumorganum]

Only a second for a quick reply, but I think this is a great idea.

The material conditions of existence themselves are evoking the activist spirit that is ours...war, the economy, the rise of the far right etc etc....

[m1thr0s]

Quite so fr. novum, and I do think that a keen sense of vigilance is really one of the things that draws us into the occult to begin with, so we are often better equipped than *believers* per se, to call a spade a spade. What can be done is always a difficult issue and many of us tend to believe that nothing much can be done save only on a personal level. There is a great deal of strength in this but there is a trap as well...we are still connected to this world however it may sway and we can't afford to throw in the towel while the *unexpected* may yet be possible. People are still stars, though they may act as though they are not. Sometimes they just need a little prod to transcend themselves completely. It's part of our job to sort that out, to know what buttons need pushing and to find the wherewithall to push them.

Many of us are born leaders, masquerading as estranged lone hunters. Our trainings endow us with certain answers not accessible to the many. It can be difficult to believe these things and perhaps belief has nothing to do with it anyway. The strong must be the strong...there is no other where to go.

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

right on the mark m1thr0s. abstraction and reification are two of the key ideologic weapons 'they' have to keep us from claiming what is rightfully ours. we imagine we are unable to change things (abstraction) and we are all isolated commodities.
i think one of the reasons 'the gnosis keeps getting busted' (to quote RAW) is because the real occult is experiencing and causing change, and replugging back into Indra's Net (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net).

Stars exist in constellations after all:sunny:

[deviadah]

Nice!

You know this one was intended for me!

:rofl:

I will contribute with some heavy activism posts in time!

:cool:

[m1thr0s]

well you and me and a few others at least, d...but yeah, I didn't imagine you'd be opposed to this one or anything! :D

It's a little strange for me in the sense that I have never been a politically inclined person, and I'm still not...but we are moving towards a global crisis at such an alarming rate that we can't afford not to look at it. And now they're starting in on food and they've already got designs on water...there seems to be no bottom to this well of corporate corruption...

I have no faith in conventional political solutions at all but the information age offers us a few new grass-roots options and I think we're going to need to know what those are and how to take advantage of them.

m1

[frater luciferi]

you should read about the connection between posiedon and revolutions my friend! :P

[m1thr0s]

you should read about the connection between posiedon and revolutions my friend! :P
any good links on this? I knew poseidon ruled over storms etc...hadn't really heard about revolutions...

m1