Merkabah Revisited...

[m1thr0s]

I've known about the Merkabah for some time, although, curiously enough, developed the whole Abrahadabra thing completely independent of any such knowledge. I think it was actually Anibis that drew my attention to it a few years back. I've been generally under-impressed with it for a number of reasons, though it is an important point of reference to be aware of generally...

then recently I ran into this little video:

YouTube - Merkabah, The Chariot of Ascension

...which makes several assertions I haven't really seen before.

They state that the word Merkabah actually derives from Egyptian:
Mer = Light
Ka = Spirit
Ba(h) = Body

which roughly qualifies it to mean "Body of Light", still implying a vehicle (chariot)...but the significant assertion is the Mer = Light bit. Ordinarily this would not be the case, since the word Mer usually implies Water, or more correctly a Body of Water such as a Lake, River or Ocean... They claim it has another meaning which is a special kind of Light, dual and spiral in nature...

They also claim that the Merkabah originates from antiquity as a form of mysticism much older than Qabbalah, directly associated to the Flower of Life, as depicted in the Tomb of Osiris some 6000 years ago etc...

And of course is associated to the Tetrahedron as well as the Tetractys...

The problem I am having with all of this is verifying any of it as historically accurate, so I am appealing for a bit of help if anybody wants to research this a bit with me. These claims are interesting and would seem to be intuitively correct...or at least in the general ballpark of correct...but I have never heard of the Mer=Light formulation until now and I am not sure it is to be trusted...

It's one thing to say that certain parallels exist as demonstrated in the geometry etc...this is all fine and can be validated upon inspection. But they are implying that there is an intact lineage going on here and I am not so sure that this is valid.

here's another link of some interest (mostly lots of neat pics):
http://www.crystalinks.com/merkaba.html

m1

[MythMath]

Some good info here:

STELLA! (octangula) (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=380&highlight=merkaba)

[m1thr0s]

yeah...we've discussed this before and it is important, but I think that right now I am trying to ascertain if the merkabah has ever been identified as the Body of Light itself...this would be a different thing than identifying it as the Chariot of the Soul, as it is more often referred to as...

The Mer=Light thing is especially puzzling...where the hell is that coming from? I'm not opposed to the idea or anything but I can't seem to find its source...

m1

[Naomi]

New age I think, It looks like they're taking the Egyptian words of Ka and Ba and applying the meaning of the Egyptian language to the word. Using the word Mer as light is probably new.

That doesn't mean it's wrong though.

I would have a tendency to think the Merkabah constitutes the vehicular function of the body of light rather than the entirety of the thing.

http://www.christopherpenczak.com/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=19


In hermetic magic, a lightbody vehicle, or body of light, is activated to do more advanced magical work.
In modern "new age" circles, the Merkaba is said to be 18th Dynasty Egyptian, meaning "counter rotating fields of light" dating back to Egypt or even Atlantis. Ka and Ba are two Egyptian words for parts of the soul. Mer refers to a special form of light, seen as counter rotating fields. Ka means "spirit" and Ba alternately means "soul" or to some, "body." Channeled sources tell us that Merkaba techniques were taught in the ancient mystery schools, along with other forms of healing and gnosis. They were lost for much on Egypt's known history, but reintroduced in the 18th Century by the Pharaoh Akhenaten.


Browsing this guy's websites I realize I have read one of his books...standard new age junk food. "Even Atlantis!" I would have to hit up some Egyptologist forums and ask about that Mer word....

Or you guys can!

[m1thr0s]

That doesn't mean it's wrong though.right...the trouble is in the presentation. New age groups are too quick to settle for made up drivel that sounds good without considering the cost...

The parallels are certainly interesting but I don't think it does us any good to pretend like this has all been understood all along...because it hasn't and it isn't understood even yet...

It's important to keep these things in their proper perspectives if we are going to advance the potentials we see going on there...

the so-called star of david (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_david) for instance, has nothing to do with the biblical King David at all from any kind of historical or archeological perspective...the fact that we don't really know where it originates also means we don't really know what influences were at play in its emerging popularity...hindu? greek? arabic? something other? So these dead-ended myths mostly serve to arrest any real understanding of anything...

m1

[MythMath]

Re: Hexstar...

{back in the day...}

If you were sitting around 'playing' with
an equilateral triangle or two, how long
would it take you to discover that form...?

How long would it take to decide that
it was a fairly monumental form...?

And then the tetractys clears it's throat...

Ahem...

[m1thr0s]

here's something I didn't know:

In Ancient Egyptian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian), a pyramid was referred to as mer, which was also their word for the country of Egypt itself, showing how intrinsic the structures were to the culture.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramids#cite_note-0)I have never heard of the pyramids referred to as mer, let alone egypt itself!

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramids#Egyptian_pyramids

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[MythMath]

Nahr- is also the root origin of the name of NAR-MER, properly read as "ruler,
on earth, under heaven" (where MER = Egypt"), a common epithet still
documented by the Guanche (http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/group/guanche.htm) or Canario (http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi189.htm) peoples (http://www.institutum-canarium.org/start_e.html) on the Canary Islands (http://www.katiuska.net/canary_links.html#language) (Ca-NAR).

http://ancientegyptweblog.blogspot.com/2004/05/nomes-of-egypt-and-astronomy-d-upper.htm

[Naomi]

here's something I didn't know:

I have never heard of the pyramids referred to as mer, let alone egypt itself!

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramids#Egyptian_pyramids

m1

woah

[MythMath]

This may not fit in this thread, but...

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptaustralia.html

[m1thr0s]

some of this is leading to the ancient city of Meroe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mero%C3%AB) and subsequent Napata/Meroitic Kingdom that lasted for about 1000 years...Sudanese, just south of Egypt...most skilled iron-craftsmen of their day and prolific traders, artisans, inventors, warriors, architects etc...had their own style of pyramids, mummification and so on...

Doesn't explain the Mer=Light idea but it's an interesting little detour...

This may not fit in this thread, but...

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptaustralia.htmlsure...that's the Mer=Love thing I keep running into...everything but light thus far it seems...

Still...that's very interesting in its own right:
Mer = Love
Ka = Spirit
Ba(h) = Body

...still gives us a Body of Light...with a curious twist.

Now, to be accurate...the Ka and Ba parts are also not quite correct...sort of...almost, but not quite. I think the Ka is generally more like an etheric double, while the Ba is more like the soul...I'll need to recheck these as well...

edit: hmm...five parts of the egyptian soul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_soul) (wiki link)

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[m1thr0s]

yeah...the deeper I get into it the less likely it becomes that this Mer=Light idea is anything other than a scam...not a scrap of solid evidence supporting this claim so far...just a bunch of high-sounding bs from ma-kilz-a-dick or whatever with not even a half-assed effort to substantiate what is obviously a pivotal claim...I'm wide open to the experimental but let's try calling it what it f*cking is for a change, you know? Otherwise somebody is just a little too hot-to-trot to control things he apparently doesn't grok to begin with...

catchy soundbite, but the boat don't float as they say...

now the Mer=Love idea apparently does though...so that's legitimately interesting...

a more proper definition might proceed:

Mer = Love
Ka = Life Force
Ba = Character

so it seems to me that the Body of Light idea is still within range...it actually would be anyway...this is really all about the properties of the word alone...

But I can find nothing supporting this Mer=Light idea thus far...

So here's a possible experiment for anybody already working with this stuff...next time you run the TwinStar or any related Abra Grid energies...just allow your brain to reflect on the properties of Love in relation to what you are doing. I have found myself doing this anyway as perhaps some of us here as well. But it may actually be a proper mental asana to consciously engage. No special rules really...just kind of a background conversational...

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[MythMath]

Re: Love...

I didn't know this thing would even run without it... :no:

[m1thr0s]

yeah...well spotted MM...

m1

[Darkwater]

Hey Mythmath,

A Star Tetrahydron thing went off in my head about a year ago,two pyramids merging in a recess of my mind then bursting into action so as *I* had to stand back or get ripped apart & feared my mind had been shredded into mincemeat.

Many thanks to you for posting this link & the *kind souls* who made this piece of art.

All Pantheon,of all time,are linked inextricably.They are all based upon the same principles & defined according to their(the people/the fashion) awareness & how they linked with their true nature.

I like a lot of the Biblical visionary stuff & laugh at that which was misinterpreted by the visionary(ies).They have a good stab at getting their message across,when it happens to you you know.

Zeke is pretty cool & has opened many pathways,Paul is a turd.Jacob & his ladder is awesomely awesome.

Jacob is the*beginning*,the route to better things,the climb out of the abysmal which self knowledge does naturally induce,no matter how long you & yours have been there.

I climbed a ladder,so what.I made the ladder,so what.I lived in the abyssmal for the longest time,so what.I combine the grande plan of universal cause with the merkabah to form a mandala of ecstatic self love to travel time & spatial dimension(s),hook up with beings of greater duration,gain understanding of them & go to those who do pull their strings,who they serve & whom they shall be ultimately judged by,so what.

Merely a triumph of desire,will & strong intent.Application & harnessing of the four fires of life.

Not ascended & not a *master* by any means,though appreciating art a lot more & the spirits who are singing.Not wishing to breathe or whisper a word for fear of spoiling infinite beauty caught in a flash of spirit talking to spirit,captured in timeless art.

True wisdom shall always re-trace its steps in order to review the path to ensure that all has been absorbed & nothing missed along the way.

The Merkabah & mandala is a doddle,I think that you are onto something even bigger & older/better or more authentic with the tri-tetragrammaton 3/9/81 which is really singing to me.

Namaste

Andy

[Naomi]

I Wanted to share this with you

Maybe it would be cool to study the overlapping hexagrams?

[deviadah]

When society crumbles and is covered in dust and future diggers find our remains they will probably interpret a lot of occult significance in all the Brands/Logos they will find. And many of them are inspired by old esoteric symbols anyway. Perhaps it was the same in Ancient Egypt. We really don't know...

Perhaps Ankh was just like Wal-Mart or IKEA of old?

Probably not, but it was not like everyone back then walked around in some esoteric haze... although that image/ideal is nice to contemplate!

Perhaps a bit OT, but just felt I needed to say it!

:cool:

Mer is Sea in French and More in Swedish... don't know if the history of words can be applied or if those three letters inspired these modern words... still.

[m1thr0s]

linguistics is one of those studies that can drive you right over the edge...since words ultimately all seem to derive from other words so long as you keep following the trail. We can say that *mer* derives from French, but where the hell did they pick it up? Only a very small percentage of words are ever created from scratch since culture itself will generally not allow it...there are certain protocols to the introduction of new words, even though *slang* is also a factor and is a lot looser that way. But even slang words...if they are really cool slang words, generally have their roots in something solid (ie, already familiar)...

The french association to mer as sea is very similar to what appears to be the most common egyptian association, not counting its possible usage to imply pyramids or even egypt itself (I have only seen a very incomplete referencing of this so far). So then, could they have picked this up from egypt somehow?

The wictionary (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mer) ascribes its etymology to the latin mare (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mare#Latin) - also meaning sea and here we begin to see a possible pattern of cultural exportation since the Romans could very easily have acquired this meaning through egypt...

And if you want to drive yourself totally insane, you have to finally ask yourself, where the hell did the egyptians acquire it then? No kind or amount of medication known to man can save you at that point... :eek:

By and by we may arrive at Sumer, for instance...or perhaps some other African mer we haven't even considered yet...

m1

[deviadah]

By and by we may arrive at Sumer, for instance...
I like that...

And then of course you can go even further and read every word backwards (which I always do). There is meaning in everything, one just got to focus!

:)

[MythMath]

I tried to read mer backwards,
but I must have drifted off...:p

[Darkwater]

I like the overlapping hexagrams,they are just like *bigger* or combined tree's & as such would have the same qualities perhaps for unification/combining with itself & others.

I would even be naive enough to say that the two hexagrams are the *complete tree* until the *bigger* one comes along,which maybe that which I am now working upon maybe?

Or just swirling with them in there natural movement or placing,trying to keep them open & flowing,not letting them constrict or harden up.

ty Naomi.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta29.htm

Is where I shall be revisiting,particularly A TABLE OF SEPHIROTHIC CORRESPONDENCES .From Fludd's Collectio Operum aka the grande plan of Universal Cause.

[wiz-oz]

M1thr0s; here a possible original connection which is in jewish mysticism

Two mystic writings attributed to Ishmael ben Elisha; indiscriminately referred to by the various names of "Sefer Hekalot," "Pirḳe Hekalot," "Pirḳe Rabbi Yishmael," "Pirḳe Merkabah," "Ma'aseh Merkabah," "Hilkot Merkabah." They are also quoted as the "Book of Enoch," and contain material found in that old apocryphon. They are based upon the remnants of the apocalyptic books of the mystic Essenes (see Apocalyptic Literature; (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1643&letter=A)Eschatology; (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=460&letter=E)Essenes (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=478&letter=E)) found in Mishnah (Ḥag. ii. 1) and Talmud. They originated, according to Hai Gaon ("Teshubot," No. 1), among the mystics of the geonic period known as the "Yorede Merkabah" (riders in the heavenly chariot), who, by asceticism and prayer, entered a state of ecstasy in which the heavens opened before them and disclosed their mysteries. These mysteries, and the means by which the "Merkabah-ride" can be achieved, are described in the "Hekalot Rabbati," of which thirty fragments have survived. It is not clear as yet what distinguishes the "Hekalot Zuṭarti" from the "Hekalot Rabbati," as the former is known only through quotations by Hai Gaon and others.

But would indicate a preparation/ritual that creates a higher light vehicle of the body by the description causing a state of ecstasy.

however, there are other versions; Merkavah, Merkava

Also Mer is French for water. yet the word poly-mer means 'many'-'units'.

This is the best bet so far:

Pharaoh Mer-Neith (5524-c.5507 BC), of the Negro First Egyptian Dynasty, succeeded to the throne and ruled as its first female pharaoh. Her name means 'beloved of Neith', named after the same goddess that the Greeks would, at a much later date, call Athena. She had two great tombs built, one in the southern Egyptian city of Abydos, the other, in the northern city of Saqqara.

Mer= love (which has already been mentioned.

Makes you wonder about characters like Mer-Lin which is Merlinus or 'Fortress of the sea' in latin.

Cheers from another wizard.

[MythMath]

Yes Sri, then there's Meru...

And Mercury...

[Naomi]

and mermaider

[Amur]

I must say that I love you m1thr0s. I love the way you attack things that lack foundation and proof and that is exactly how it should be. Too much shit flying around everywhere anyway so.

Anyway about the Merkabah... It can be a very very useful vehicle if understood correctly. We just need to make the right symbolical links to it. As a first approach let us say that the Tetrahedron is the symbolic for the element of Fire itself. Now placing this Fire upon the body/mind complex in a 2-way system we get 2 energies that are distinct from each other. One of the energies ascends from Below(Femine) and the other energy descends from Above(Masculine). Now interlocking this with the body should make it so that the energy that descends from Above goes from the Crown down to Earth (Or from the Stars above down to Earth). The other energy as you probably can figure out now is the one that ascends from Earth to Above. The femine energy, or Kundalini is what connects us to our own planet and so forth, but I have very rarely met anyone that had a raised Kundalini connect with their Star Above and make it Descend, which is really what I would like to experiment with and accomplish. Though I suppose its safest to first take the energy from Below to Above instead of vice-versa. Wouldn't want any other asshole to actually come into the wrong body as the Star-lines communications are fucked up anyway on this planet so I think that the planet knows better :)

Though about the spins and such I have no idea really. I think that the spinning times of it are crap and so forth but there is an idea in making it spin as that would make the energies circulate also which would unclog any cloggings.

[m1thr0s]

a little truth in advertising is all I ask. If your product is intended to kill head lice, could we please not call it suntan lotion just so we can capture a little summer trade?

because what eventually happens is that by the time enough people figure out all this trumped up hype is completely full of shit, then they often also conclude the subject matter itself is also full of shit and this is simply not the case...

the whole spin thing isn't really a new idea...this is all borrowed from (many) other sources. ayurvedic doctrine has been going on about optimal spin in chakras for many centuries now...virtually none of the underscoring stuff is new or original...even the graphics are all borrowed from somewhere else on the internet...theme song...all of it hijacked from somewhere else.

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[wiz-oz]

m1thr0s, I'm with you. Chariot of fire (the IDF Merkava Tank):

http://www.the-branch.org/i/merk1tank.gif


cheers from OZ

[m1thr0s]

rofl...xst wiz...that made me spit coffee all over my keyboard!

too freaking much, boy... I guess we can pretty well assume these folks have altogether lost all rational sense of proportion...

m1

[wiz-oz]

Merkab and rakab from which it comes means in Hebrew: chariot, place to ride, riding seat.


Loading Merkab Boats along the Nile:
http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/11917/wm/pd1267244.jpg

Merkab seems to imply transport of various means in the related cultures.

[m1thr0s]

interesting...boats...hadn't thought of that.

Egyptian cosmology all begins with the Boat of Creation...

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[Amur]

a little truth in advertising is all I ask. If your product is intended to kill head lice, could we please not call it suntan lotion just so we can capture a little summer trade?

because what eventually happens is that by the time enough people figure out all this trumped up hype is completely full of shit, then they often also conclude the subject matter itself is also full of shit and this is simply not the case...

the whole spin thing isn't really a new idea...this is all borrowed from (many) other sources. ayurvedic doctrine has been going on about optimal spin in chakras for many centuries now...virtually none of the underscoring stuff is new or original...even the graphics are all borrowed from somewhere else on the internet...theme song...all of it hijacked from somewhere else.

m1

My own investigation into most religions seem that the whole concept has been hijacked and turned into a 'sales' thing where they sell people these spiritual viewpoints that are more than often full of shit. At the same time they try to backstab you while they give you little pieces of Divine information 'here' 'there' and keep people contended with that. I know they hate me for noticing these things but I think it is kinda silly. Of course I could put up a new religious concept for people and take the information inside them and give it to them in a packet where I take 'their' internal money at the same time.

Would very much like to burn them all in a fire of Truth lol. Should get them scattered to quite a large extent. Well usually the rats flee the ship that is leaking anyway so...

I found that the spin thing is a very efficient way in clearing out heavier energies from the aura, as motion puts those things to movement and movement brings energy and energy brings euphoria. With too many heavy energies inside it's like living in a house that has never been ventilated, so it's quite straightforward.

As I see it there is a spiritual war on spiritual/material matters approaching because those ignorant fools governing many of the religious energies and forces are too greedy with their own power and most of them can't even come to peace with each other(religious egregores and so on). So I suppose that very large and terrible forces will start to awaken in the coming years. But I would certainly hope that peace and understanding would be taken instead of it.

Remember reading from a book full of wisdom that "Humans are better than their religions"

[m1thr0s]

But I would certainly hope that peace and understanding would be taken instead of it.I can't recall that ever really happening, but either way, the whole concept of "them" is sort of a hopeless digression. In a more practical sort of way, there really is no "them"...nothing you can ever really put your finger on etc. Or if you take out 10 of "them", 100 pop right back up in their place since it's all a kind of macabre puppet-show anyway...if there are solutions, these only exist in terms of wholes. Nothing much can be done for or about "them" I think...weird as that may seem at times.

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[Naomi]

The Sektet boat, mentioned in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

"Now climb aboard my Sektet/
Come stand and gaze on Sekhmet/
Bow down thine head to Nebt-het/
The Wraith comes to collect heads/"

- Jacob

[wiz-oz]

I've been thinking about this for some time .Not sure if there is an awareness that in Ezekiel's vision is mentioned with the Merkabah the four animals and the wheels within wheels, see image
http://www.crystalinks.com/ezekielmerkaba.jpg

Some think it was a UFO in his vision, but it was either the 'Hash' (this will become obvious later) he was smoking or what I believe Ezekiel' was hinting about :
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/Ezekielswheel.jpg

Scorpio = Eagle
Leo = Lion
Taurus = Bull
Aquarius = man/woman

see images:
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/10oct/rennescherubim.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/CanopicJars.jpg
Egyptian Canopic jars for the bodily organs called the 4 sons of Horus.
Ezekiel's vision here: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:cmjmKyHW9GwJ:www.workofthechariot.c om/PDF/NewMerkabah.pdf+Merkabah+Ezekiel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3

There is also in Egyptian lore - 4 Royal Stars, were 4 of the brightest our Sun passes by and connected to the Swastika via Solomon's knot.

http://www.blogsforcompanies.com/TTimages/solomon_nanoknot.jpg

Antares in Scorpio
Aldebaran in Taurus
Regulus in Leo
Fomalhaut in Pisces Austrinus

Fomalhaut is the last of the four stars in the sun's journey in the precession and the image is telling in so many ways:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Fomalhautsauron.jpg
"And I looked, and, behold, a stormy Spirit came out of the north, a great cloud, with a fire flashing up, so that a brightness was round about it; and out of the midst thereof was the Eye of Hashmal" (Hash-mal means glowing light).

This reminds me of Lords of the Rings Sauron's Evil Eye/ the Masonic All seeing Eye etc. So this brings together the cross, swastika, the Eye of Horus, our DNA four letters/proteins and precessional cycle.

All very symbolic and wasn't for the un-initiated I'm sure.

Cheers from OZ

[Darin Hamel]

Aren't there two hakhalot that the merkabah goes through? I think I read somewhere that it descends through the lesser hakhalot (yetzirah) and then ascends through the greater hakhalot (Beriah).

Which makes me wonder if there is a lesser merkabah and a greater merkabah?

[Darin Hamel]

"And I looked, and, behold, a stormy Spirit came out of the north, a great cloud, with a fire flashing up, so that a brightness was round about it; and out of the midst thereof was the Eye of Hashmal"

Eye of Hashmal? Is that a direct translation of the Hebrew original wording from Ezekial? If not where did you get it?

[deviadah]

Which makes me wonder if there is a lesser merkabah and a greater merkabah?
Good question, but where there is a greater mystery there usually is a lesser!

Polarity/duality is a constant presence in all esoteric lore...

:cool:

[MythMath]

The tetrahedon (one-half of a 'merkaba')
is known as a Self-Dual Polyhedron (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Self-DualPolyhedron.html)...

The Stella Octangula (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StellaOctangula.html)
(aka: star tetrahedron or merkaba)
is actually an expression of this property...

So, in a way, the 'dual' of a merkaba
is a second smaller merkaba...

The Cuboctahedron (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Cuboctahedron.html) is also closely related to the merkaba
as seen in this animation that I had previously posted:

http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/th_Merkuboct-animation.gif

The Genesa Crystal (http://www.sacredinnovations.com/genesa.htm)
is basically a spherical cuboctahedron:

http://www.sacredinnovations.com/images/gen-rot.gif

Wheels within wheels...


http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/?action=view&current=Merkuboct-animation.gif http://forums.abrahadabra.com/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/Merkuboct-animation.gif%5B/IMG%5D

[Darkwater]

This is a great thread just getting better & better.ty Myth Math for the exact specifications for stuff I have seen & well done Wiz Oz for defining something I tried to describe.

Have you been to the dinnerparty?

[wiz-oz]

Daren said:

Eye of Hashmal? Is that a direct translation of the Hebrew original wording from Ezekial? If not where did you get it?

here's an extract from Wikpedia: 'There are more examples, like the word Hashmal (חשמל - lightning) that appears only in Ezekiel 1:4. Today it is used to refer to electricity.'

Also:
'HASHMAL is an Anglicized spelling of CHASHMAL from the Hebrew, meaning SHINING SUBSTANCE; ELECTRICITY [modern] (Alcalay, R. The Complete Hebrew English Dictionary. Jerusalem: Massada. 838).
HASHMAL is from the Hebrew, meaning BRASS MADE SMOOTH i.e. POLISHED (Gesenius, William. 1979. Tr. Samuel Tregelles. Gesenius’ Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament. Grand Rapids: Baker Book House. 313a).
HASHMAL is often translated as AMBER (Ezekiel (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Ezekiel&chapno=1&startverse=27&endverse=28) 1:27),
Biblical source - And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst the appearance of glowing metal, hashmal, out of the midst of the fire (Ezekiel (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=citation&book=Ezekiel&chapno=1&startverse=4&endverse=)1:4).'

cheers from OZ

[Darkwater]

Other than the 4 royal stars what info do you have upon the other houses,such as Spica in Virgo,as in 'Arc to Arcturus then on to Spica'

Nordic,Greek & Egyptian Pantheon myth surround all the constellation.

Over the last few weeks our meridian has been tracking along Hydra and it
is now approaching the end of its tail. Low on the horizon it is a
challenge to find the stars that make up the tail.

Above Hydra and just to the right of our meridian lies Corvus, the Crow,
which was sent by Apollo to report on a lady called Coronis although is best known to me as one of Odin's *thought & memory* crows.

Above Virgo we find Coma Berenices on our meridian. Despite being attached
to the legend of Berenice's Hair which she sacrificed to Venus following
the safe return of her husband Ptolemy Euergetes,also(more importantly to me) Freya's hair. Berenice's Star Cluster is just on the right of the meridian while on the left and justslightly lower is M64, otherwise known as the Blackeye Galaxy.Anyone shed any light on that?


Above Coma Berenices and about halfway to the handle of the Plough which
is almost directly overhead, we find Canes Venatici, the two hunting dogs
supposedly being held by Bootes the herdsman. The two brightest stars
were called Asterion and Chara,I have close ties to Asterion.

Canes Venatici is home to a fine globular cluster, M3. It is also home to several galaxies in the Messier list, the most famous of which is M51, the Whirlpool Galaxy.

Any of these perhaps *lesser* houses mentioned in the myth of any Pantheon,be it Jew or greek,Nordic,Sumarian or whatever?

[m1thr0s]

Any of these perhaps *lesser* houses mentioned in the myth of any Pantheon,be it Jew or greek,Nordic,Sumarian or whatever?I don't know Darkwater...it's a good question though. Maybe you will choose to research it and then you can tell us!

Don't forget to provide some links...tough crowd you know...:)

m1

[wiz-oz]

They state that the word Merkabah actually derives from Egyptian:



Mer = Light


Ka = Spirit


Ba(h) = Body



which roughly qualifies it to mean "Body of Light",
m1




M1thr0s, I happened upon this quote:

The name of the Ka'aba means "cube" see site:
http://www.sacrednumber.co.uk/journal/2008/3/24/the-kaaba-the-cube-that-isnt-a-cube.html

This put's a completely different interpretation on the 'Ka-Ba' description.

cheers from OZ

[m1thr0s]

"follow the intimations from fate"...I Ching

good snag wiz-oz...danke :)

m1

[Darin Hamel]

M1thr0s, I happened upon this quote:

The name of the Ka'aba means "cube" see site:
http://www.sacrednumber.co.uk/journal/2008/3/24/the-kaaba-the-cube-that-isnt-a-cube.html

This put's a completely different interpretation on the 'Ka-Ba' description.

cheers from OZ
The cube "unfolded" looks like a cross or a human figure which is how the new Jerusalem is described in the Book of Revelations. Some say its really describing a human body with its imagery and theat the cube city is really meant to be "unfolded" into a human shape.

[Darkwater]

eh,sorry m1,I don't know where to start researching pantheon related stars,which could be a lifes work kinda thing.

It was revealed to me that 12(more or less) Pantheon members of all pantheon relate to each other,which in turn relate to chakara,animals,planets,main constellation then more pantheon members are introduced as the principle constellation *fragment* into their component stars or breed(in the pantheon personified sense)

I would have to learn every pantheon member of a particular pantheon,then relate each member to every other member of each respective pantheon,then learn every constellation & every star of every constellation,then learn every family member & extended family.

Then assimilate Black holes,green giants & red dwarves,orange swirls ...........not to mention the 3 fates,norns or systers wyrde which every pantheon member acknowledges as holding sway over the gods as well as us mortals no matter how advanced.

Something tells me the whole thing has probably been done before to an extent & there may be a much easier method than my banging my head against a wall?It is tough for me to get started,other than Virgo which I hang out at & sepent bearer in amongst scorpio which is interesting as it is a new one to me & would appear to be my birth sign instead of Sagitarius?

I am still getting a big kick out of this thread,Wiz oz circles within circles is amazing,especialyy significant the line 4 polararc which seems to cover the(rapidly decreasing) North pole?As well as Zeke I find Jacobs ladder the most useful & easiest to travel,maybe because the singing stone has *always*been with my tribe ie since before my tribe was formed or named.

The initial merkabah tetrahydron cube is rough,scary & dangerous,kinda like Edmund in the magicians nephew experience,when it goes off you want to be the surrounding wall & can't get far enough back from it.

The Star Cube requires you to be just,regular & perfect,you will be tested & measured upon this & it could be painful if you are found to be wanting.Indeed it is scary even if you pass,there is no wall to back into,you are at the centre & a lot of ecstatic self love helps to keep it all together.It is smooth,powerful & fast,a greater way to travel.

As always(maybe) I am drawn towards Rosicrucion to expand my knowledge some,they would seem to have the right idea as they always maybe have?

What a great thread,just getting better.You guys are really nailing this.

Namaste

Andy

[Raphael]

This reminds me of Lords of the Rings Sauron's Evil Eye/ the Masonic All seeing Eye etc. So this brings together the cross, swastika, the Eye of Horus, our DNA four letters/proteins and precessional cycle.

All very symbolic and wasn't for the un-initiated I'm sure.

Cheers from OZ

...we seem to have been on the same page?
...have you turned the page and started on the next chapter?

namaste

Ra

[Raphael]

Scorpio = Eagle
Leo = Lion
Taurus = Bull
Aquarius = man/woman



http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/CanopicJars.jpg

Cheers from OZ

How many different versions fulfilling the archetype, representing the Persian 4 Royal Stars can we locate?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/e1.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ARLESChurchofStTrophime12thcenturyT.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/FOURTetramorphsCARD21oftheTAROT.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ALCHEMYLecture3TwoSerpentsARABICAlc.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/medicine-wheel425.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4StarsCrossofHendaye.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4SupernaturalCreatures.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4EvangelistsfromEliphasLevisTransce.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4TETRAMORPHSinFIXEDPosition.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/FourEvangelists.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4Tetramorphsandthe9LevelsoftheMount.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/ixion.gif
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/OrderoftheRosyCrossandtheTetragramm.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/FourelementsandChrist_16thcenturywo.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SecretofLife.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/chimeral.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaRosettaFractalMandala.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/4sacredsitesvatican2.jpg

And finally we find those 4 ROYAL Stars on that mandala in the Catholic Peruvian Monastery, a mandala detailing the process of alchemy, which coincidentally fits nicely into St. Peter's Square.

Do you see the 8 pointed stars at the inter-cardinal directions...which on Card X of the Tarot, those 4 positions on the wheel would spell YHVH.
Take a look.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/swastika.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SolomonsKnotCircle1.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikainSantaCatalina_AVATAR.jpg


Please note above that at the heart of Solomon's Knot (image in the center) is a nazi tying knotzis ... do you see the swastiKA?
So what does it all mean eh?
It is suggesting the VatiCAn supplied Hitler with the swastiKA.
And the cruel joke is that the swastiKA = X = Card X = YHVH on the wheel = X
So the Nazi swastiKA was in fact like a beacon ... and the beacon was flashing YHVH.

All part of the alchemy process.
Who is the master chef, the master spiritual alchemist on planet earth?
Well, who claims to be one of God's mediators?
:eek:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/obelisk-baal.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaRosettaFractalMandala.jpg

The four-8-pointed Royal Stars manifest in St. Peter's Square as lamp posts.
The CompaSS Rose in the center of the Peruvian mandala provides another link.
Do you see it in the center of this symbol...where the obelisk coincidently resides in St. Peter's Square?

The image below, by the way is an exaggeration of the 4 sides of the pyramid at Giza...but it is true...the sides are concave.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/natoflagsmall1.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/NATO.gif


I admit I do see swastiKAs everywhere.
It is after all the KEY to Universal Movement.

namaste

Ra

[Darkwater]

Ra,

after looking at some of your images,& the little dipper pointing north,I viewed another beauty of a kabala tree which is here http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/avatars/darkwater.gif?dateline=1216078880

The furthest south I have been is way deep into the core of the universe,right through constellation virgo.

As far as I know the North star is the farthest North I have been.

Anyway,I hung my circled winged cross on the axis point,the whole thing started spinning & a whole new universe was created before my very eyes.

I am still in awe.