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Odonata
05-08-2008, 01:08 AM
The following was written by me a few days ago when I was a bit out of sorts. It's a lucid thought, I just hadn't slept for some time. I was thinking that perhaps some of your expertise might be able to formalize this into a more concise thought. Look forward to hearing back from you all.

Much Love,

Odonata


"So I've been doing some thinking. I now know of reality and squiddies.

So, the pythagorean theorum doesn't really apply to geometry in any but the grossest sense. In truth, I think it is more a measure of reality, hence the mystery cult. I've been doing some thinking on the subject and fed some facts into the old schizometer and here's what I've come up with:

The pythagorean theorum doesn't actually work, but only sort of. I figure that in abstracts a2+b2=c2 works just fine, but any time you plug real numbers into the equation to identify the third angle, you cannot actually use real numbers. We do not yet have the technological capacity to measure real space accurately.

As far as I can tell, space is not three dimensional, in a philosophical way, but one dimensional. Time and 'ether' are the other two dimensions. We'll just call it ether now out of convention, call it peanuts if you like. So, presumably one could go about philosophically applying the pythagorean theorum to his place in space and time to be able to make assertions of his place in ether.

The inherent problem therein is twofold. First we are poorly equipped to identify exactly when and where we are at any given juncture. Typically through meditation one could simply provide 'here' and 'now' to assert ones position in ether, but in practice these values equate to an equally vague position in ether. The second problem is that if we can not accurately measure a value for any given number, the entire equation is inaccurate. Given the nature of the measure of space, or time, neither measurement is a real number anyway. They only act as real numbers when under scrutiny.

So, if you draw a triangle to represent this, one of the angles will never be formed, and since the measure of space and time can always be more and more accurate the closer you look, you will always have to adjust the dimensions of the triangle to take into account greater or lesser accuracy.

If you actually draw this out you get a fractal of sorts.

What this means is that if you try to determine your place in the ether by subjecting your place in space and time to close scrutiny, the fractal impression of a spiral will arise in your head as truth, but a false truth, something wrong. What does your brain matrix this as to identify it?

Tentacles. I think Lovecraft wrote about "Alien Geometry"? You gots it.

Maybe when they kick on the hadron collider we'll get an accurate measure of space. Finally, reality without the squiddies.

I don't even know what any of this means. Go without sleeping for a few days, it'll make sense. Shit, they might even talk to you."

MythMath
05-08-2008, 01:37 AM
The pythagorean theorum doesn't actually work, but only sort of. I figure that in abstracts a2+b2=c2 works just fine,
but any time you plug real numbers into the equation to identify the third angle, you cannot actually use real numbers.
We do not yet have the technological capacity to measure real space
Not to nitpick, but just to clarify:

The Pythagorean theorem is used to accurately determine the length
of the right triangle's hypotenuse (third line), not the third angle...

And although it was probably due to keyboarding
limitations, the equation you've typed reads:
A times 2 plus B times 2 equals C times 2...
_________________________

But I can dig the part about fractal spirals... ;)

wiz-oz
05-08-2008, 05:14 AM
On the Large Hadron Collider mentioned in the post, I saw a doco on CERN and how they are trying to re-create the moment of the Big bang. After spending $9 billion on it, they'd better find something otherwise it will be a big CON-CERN or a $9 billion black hole!

One aspect of the doco I found a bit odd, they showed images of galaxies in a very dark part of the sky and claim that these are the very first formed and young because they are in-distinct and don't spiral. What was beyond them was a dark space. The assumption that it was the limit of time.

It crossed my mind that if the universe is larger light from other galaxies further out wouldn't have reached Hubble teledcope to reveal themselves.

That aside I'm not a subscriber to the Big Bang theory anyway. My view (non-scientific) is that the universe breathes in and out like a double torus so there actually no beginning and no end in that sense. So rather than a Big Bang more like a big SIGH or is it a cosmic ORGASM! So rather than the Big Bang Theory, how's about the french version of Le Univers Sexuelle Theorie = LUST.

In relation to the CERN LHC the first two UK Crop circles seem to be related to the idea of spiralling particles around a pipe.

White House
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/unicorn77/whitehorse2008nb.jpg

and

Waden Hill
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/wadenhill/UK080419WadenHill_2.gif

and here's both crop formations overlayed:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Wiz-OZ/WadenHill-WhiteHorse.gif

cheers from OZ

m1thr0s
05-08-2008, 01:30 PM
a breathing universe...I'm no real expert either but I like the sound of that...

maybe if this one turns out to be static I'll consider moving into a *breather*...lol

might explain a lot of things about this one, actually...

m1

Darkwater
05-08-2008, 02:42 PM
I love the guy who memorized the 3.13.............................................. ............ number in its enirety.He views the number as a beautiful landscape & can spot any number out of sync as it appears as a blot upon his beautiful landscape.

This number symbolises for me the *break* or *rift* between this universe & the shrunken & expanded universes that are currently*invisible* except to the astral sense's
where they still appear whole.

Of the other 6.87******************************************,we have another break behind us into the microcosm of the shrunken given the nature of the 3(at least)breaks from the whole.

Ooooooooooohhhhh,I am seeing pretty triangles after posting that.

Odonata
05-08-2008, 04:57 PM
As for the clarifications, I am aware that I have written the formula incorrectly, but when writing the piece I had assumed that most of the audience would be familiar with the theorem, and as such felt it was not needed for me to rifle through a bunch of computer gunk to represent A(square)+B(square)=C(square).

As far as angle vs. hypotenuse goes, I had written the piece on very little sleep. I felt when transcribing it here that the inaccuracy was reminiscent of what some of the ethnogen domus kaotica folks have been discussing, so I left the error intact, for suggestive purposes.

Further thoughts are welcomed.

Much Love,

Odonata

MythMath
05-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Here's my take on the scalar
Breathing Universe:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/spiralstetractys2copy.jpg

At each transisition between an inhalation and an exhalation
a Tetractys is formed...

Darkwater
05-08-2008, 10:16 PM
So the *tentacles* come from the centre,or a *centre*.

wiz-oz
05-10-2008, 11:50 PM
MythMath, your diagram is "breath-taking" and very mezmorising. Recently a crop formation surfaced in Italy, which is chakra looking and reminded me of your diagram - nice pic too:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2008/italy/riesi2008.jpg

What I find facinating about Pythagoras is that his work centres on frequencies and waves and his name means 'teacher of the snake'. So was it his real name or an adopted symbolic name? I think the latter.

cheers from Underneath

Naomi
05-11-2008, 01:33 AM
It's kind of freaking me out a little bit, I never heard of pythagoras before last year but now I've just been tuning into all of these frequencies that had to do with everything the pythagoreans were about.

I must be going crazy if I'm in tune with a bunch of math fanatics.