The Most Powerful Magic To Behold

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I got this off another forum I frequent. I don't know if anyone can describe a more powerful magic practice than this.

[m1thr0s]

well it's useful. I didn't find it all that remarkable personally but I will listen to it again...I have a lot of things going on at once. A lot of these kinds of courses tell you how to change your perspective but they don't tell you how really find your *path*...they avoid that one like the plague but the truth is that changing your perspective is nothing in comparison to really figuring out what your best course of action might be in this life. If you decide you just want a lot of money...no problemo...start thinking and acting like a money-grubber and voila...you'll have lots of money but really only be a jerk with money.

It's a whole other can-o-worms "knowing yourself" to begin with and then figuring out the best way to harness your best qualities in this world...there's just no crash course in that...it's not the same thing as following your bliss or realizing your dreams or any of that bs. That's kid stuff. Understanding "dharma" and walking its necessary course may not have anything to do with getting what you "want" per se. It may take you into all kinds of situations you don't want and leave you lost and stranded for years and years. It's a horrible sacrifice in many cases to follow the path of Higher Self...you cannot be sure if you are "getting it" or not until all the pieces start to come together.

Anyway...I don't mean to dampen your enthusiasm. I have heard all this stuff so many times before. Much of it is very useful so far as it goes but I have not once seen it go nearly far enough...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

plus tony robbins has nicer teeth:p

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Mithros, Teacher...
But isn't what you describe a more passive practice? We may never know where our dharma is supposed to lead us... and who knows if it is where we really want to be? Sure, taking an active role in our destiny may lead us to pitfalls... But pitfalls are to be expected on the path are they not? And I trust myself to be able to crawl out of any pit if I manage to put myself there in the first place.

I feel like this practice helps you to take CONTROL... And isn't that one of the fundaments of higher being? being in control? Instead of just 'going to just wherever life seems to take you'...?

[m1thr0s]

But isn't what you describe a more passive practice?Oh no...not hardly passive...from the Upanishads to Pythagoras down to you and me right here and now, the adage "know thyself" has absolutely never been a *passive* practise and this is precisely where a proper understanding of *dharma* must always begin.

We may never know where our dharma is supposed to lead usParadoxical...if you don't know...no one else can know it for you. The Doctrine of Higher Genius presupposes that you actually do know...you just don't know what it is that you know but the answer lies within and not without...teachers, guides, fellow travelers, can only really assist you in one way or another at getting to what you already know on some very guarded level.

I feel like this practice helps you to take CONTROL... And isn't that one of the fundaments of higher being? being in control? Instead of just 'going to just wherever life seems to take you'...?Sure it is. The problem comes in where you start making arbitrary decisions and calling that as good as it gets. Let's say you think it over and decide...I want to be a successful actor...ok...that's a decision based on certain levels of attachment to the whole idea of being an actor. And you can go ahead and do that...that's just fine...no problem with that at all. Just don't make the mistake of defining yourself asccording to your attachments, that's all. If you can do this and not lose sight of a higher necessity in things then great...beats the hell out of washing dishes, right? It's all a question of maintaining a balanced perspective...I am not challenging that these methods may not help you to improve your circumstances...they just don't much accomplish anything more than that...and ultimately, it's really all pretty common sense stuff when you get right down to it.

Look you kow...I tell people all the time...I used to be all googly-eyed about eckankar! It's pretty damn funny to me now but it made perfect sense at the time. So long as you keep on growing, it doesn't really matter how you get there...

m1thr0s

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I feel like I am missing something, and that I don't completely understand

Do you think that this practice can be applied to spiritual undertakings?

For example, in the past I always find myself in the mind-set "I will be an immortal some day"... I totally agree that this mindset perpetuates itself, and that I will never achieve immortality in this way, because it will always be 'some day'.
Now if I believe that I am an immortal already... then (as jung might say?) synchromicities will manifest in a pattern that will MAKE me an immortal.

I mean, lets not get bogged down to the wording used by the lecturer, who seemed to talk mostly in terms of 'poverty' and 'richness' and other worldly things. We can use these as examples, or (better,) as spiritual metaphors.


"The Doctrine of Higher Genius presupposes that you actually do know...you just don't know what it is that you know but the answer lies within and not without..."

If this is true then it seems like probably one of the most important steps of the path.. How can I discover my dharma? Why must I accept my dharma?

Another point -- I am a firm believer at the moment that man, ego, is for the most part a consequence of his enviroment... that circumstances MAKE the man... With this knowledge, I believe that one can strive to create circumstances that best suit his spiritual growth...


I don't know, I feel like I am missing something...

[m1thr0s]

Dharma really just means *Destiny*...it doesn't stipulate that you have no choices in the matter...that is a perversion that crept in with the deplorable caste system in India...it's a pollution of the true and original concept which is not *fixed* so much as it is cooperative. A person makes their own Dharma, yet Dharma is also tied into the laws of Karma, so it can be good or bad depending but you still have choices and those choices do determine your *Destiny*...

Some things are laid out in the fabric of things...others are much more pliable. If a monkey is destined to become a man and a man to become a god, then we may know something about that monkey long before these events unfold. But events may alter natural orders...maybe that monkey dies off in a freak ice age brought about by an unexpected asteroid or whatever. Chaos is always a factor in things so Dharma is never entirely *fixed*...it is reciprocal however.

m1thr0s

[Seipiriz]

Well, the whole thing seems quite interesting but in this I will share the opinion of Mithros , the results in the fields we are discussing are hard to see given little time . The most significant results come in the fields of every-day life, sences of the body and generally to the way one feels diachronically...