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crossoflight
03-06-2009, 07:15 AM
Blurb and extract from 'Dark Knights of the Solar Cross' by G.B. Smith. Impressive scholarship or a dog's dinner? What do you think?



Dark Knights of the Solar Cross

Geoffrey Basil Smith
Logos Press 1997

At last the unvarnished, essential truth about the Theosophical Society, the Golden Dawn, the O.T.O., the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor, and many other occult organizations which have so influenced, sometimes to drastic effect, the cultural and socio-political landscapes of the 20th century. This is Conspiracy Research without Paranoia! Lucid and crystal clear, Geoffrey Basil Smith is a veteran researcher whose time has come; this book is absolutely the last word on the history of modern occultism.

Afterword

As I write, Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh have just issued yet another book on Hermeticism, ‘The Elixir and the Stone’. In it, the pair write of how marginalized the subject has become since the Enlightenment (i.e., in comparison with its relatively mainstream hey-day in the Renaissance).

In this book, I have given an overview of Eastern and Western occult underground streams which bring us reasonably up-to-date as to where the main ‘modern’ propagators of the subject stand. But to attempt to date Hermeticism is to make absolute and Eternal Truths temporal. For Hermetists of all ages speak a common language of symbolism, and these symbols are perfectly scientific in so far as they have a universally applicable meaning.

When I was deluged by Hermetic and occult symbols in dreams, visions and imaginations during the 1970s and early 80s, I had no problem deciphering their message because all Hermetic Adepts have done so throughout the centuries, and this according to a Universal Key.

Some of the symbols – the smooth Ashlar, for example, and solar-phallic imagery – I found in Masonic High Degree systems. Others – for instance, the eclipsed sun and the falling star – I found in Masonry and the Bible. A circular rainbow I inwardly experienced was discovered in a painting by Crowley, a Lion-headed ‘goddess’ found in Egyptian mythology and the Golden Dawn, the Hanged Man in the Tarot cards, the Green Snake in Goethe, a severed head in Rosicrucianism and Masonry, ‘Sophia’ in Kabbalah and Alchemy, and the true meaning of ‘White Eagle’ was given by the Anthroposophist Walter Stein after Basil Valentine, the Alchemist. And so on.

What are the explanations for all this wonderfully bestowed and gratefully received numinosity? The Analytical Psychologist Carl Jung suggested the ‘Archetypes’ of the ‘Collective Unconscious’, ultimately reducible to the psyche as ‘carbon’. But I hold to the view of the French esotericist Rene Guenon who says that the profane reductionism of ‘Depth Psychology’ completely misses out on the final, spiritual dimension of these gifts which, to the knower, speak of the Transcendent Reality back of our mundane world experience.

There are so-called ‘Rosicrucians’ like Rudolf Steiner who condemn this type of Symbolic Hermeticism as it has been expounded in the ‘Modern Occult Revival’ (beginning c. 1850s) by authors like the French men Eliphas Levi and ‘Papus’ Encausse. But a deeper and more initiated former Anthroposophist Valentin Tomberg (who, like Stein, represented the best in the Society before being excluded) embraced the work of Levi, Papus and their many companions in the revival period – and I agree with Tomberg. My own Hermetic initiation demands and confirms this.

In my experience, the Hermetic Adepts (call them the ‘Great White Brotherhood’ or what you will) initiate their pupils via highly charged symbols expressing the fullest Hermetic Truths in images that are far greater in impact than words. And as long as one also maintains one’s ego-bound common-sense attitude to everyday life, matters do not go awry.

Mistakes may have been made but what cannot be negated is the ‘blood, sweat and tears’ shed by men like Papus and his successors who did so much to maintain the Hermetic Tradition when the subject was so peripheral to society’s contemporary interests.

Yes, Herr Dr. Steiner, Tomberg is correct: the common language of all Hermetists is Symbolism, universal and always understandable by those who take the trouble to read what so many others have said about the ageless cipher. In his relative youth (as an occultist), Steiner had been eager to dismiss much, for example, of Yarker’s Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis and Mizraim Masonry (as did Crowley and Eugen Grosche of the Brotherhood of Saturn). And yet this Rite, like many others in the Masonic High Degrees, contains much Truth of an everlasting nature.

True clairvoyants and even so-called ‘spiritualists’ may claim to see a more flowing and living stream of spiritual reality (and perhaps they do) but it is not that of the School of Hermetic Science.

An establishment on the lines of the latter was set up by Papus and echoes of it continued in Reuss’s O.T.O. (see the Constitution of 1917). This is what the Oriental Templars were originally intended to be. Kellner’s vision was of a Masonic Academy in which questing brethren could become familiar with all Masonic systems (and it really does not matter whether you are officially a Mason). Reuss expanded this view to include most of the occult societies and their teachings too. What a tragedy that the O.T.O. got bogged down, not only with the Nazi-like psychopathic tenets of Crowley’s Thelema (which Reuss tempered and later completely rejected), but also with over-exaggerating an unnecessary and unproved ‘sex magical’ secret. The O.T.O. could have been every bit as all encompassing as a NON-Thelemic A.A. or Fraternitas Saturni. Then the White School would have prospered!

Finally, the reader of my second book will have noted that I no longer embrace the Eastern (Blavatsky-derived) schools of occultism but now prefer the Hermetic Adepts of the Western Tradition. World-negating Eastern views (especially the Neo-Buddhistic) no longer seem suitable (if they ever were) to the modern Western world, a point hammered home by many occultists in the past (including Peter Davidson and the H.B. of L., Steiner, Reuss, Crowley, Mathers, Kingsford, Papus, Jung, Oliphant, Fortune and others).

In seeking out the Secret Societies (not so secret anymore) the Seeker after Truth expects to find a ready made programme guaranteed to lead him to the Path of Enlightenment. The Theosophical Society…the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn…the O.T.O. (and many more) – all appear to offer the possibility of total Initiation to the aspiring neophyte.

In my personal experience, this is not so.

All groups may enjoy the benefit of symbolic systems which do, in part, speak of the Truth. But none have the whole Truth and there is always dross amidst the gold (much dross).

By and large, the greatest Truth is that contained in societies which emphasise the Hermetic Philosophy will all its attendant symbology. We are speaking of some of the symbols mentioned by myself in the earlier part of this conclusion. The Alchemists and authentic Rosenkreuzers have provided the bulk of these symbols in their teachings.

As I have stated earlier, there must be no reductionism in relation to these symbols a la Jung. Jung was indeed a great collector, purveyor and explainer of these symbols but missed out by not regarding them as essential pointers to Transcendent Spirituality (the symbols themselves are not Spirit as such but come from Spirit, although certainly not in the Spiritualists’ sense). This lack of emphasis on Spirit was commented on by both Steiner and Guenon (who nevertheless both adhered to other world views/personal interpretations with which this author cannot agree).

Hermetic-Alchemical-Rosicrucian symbology is certainly supra-individual and provides a timeless intimation of immortality – eternal life (no less)!

It is as if certain qualities of the human soul were perfectly rewarded, acknowledged and encouraged by specific symbols. Ethical virtues, achieved by self-sacrifice, for example, are a case in point. The prizes are not won easily. Sacrifice is suffering. The rewards – bestowed in dream and vision – provide spiritual certainty for the Hermeticist, knowledge not faith (which is, after all, intellectual sacrifice).

The initial eruption of the Transcendent Event is seemingly irrational but it is left to rationality to decipher the Hermetic Code (with the aid of those who went before) and thereby enable full understanding of the ‘gift’.

In many ways, Freemasonry has become a sort of custodian of some of these symbols. This is particularly the case in the example of the ‘Perfect Ashlar’ which is a form of the Alchemist’s ‘Lapis’ or ‘Philosopher’s Stone’, the key Hermetic symbol and the end result of all esoteric endeavour. This has nothing to do with the debased and vulgarised interpretation of the Stone and its symbols given by the degenerate O.T.O. The Stone is a spiritual acquisition and requires self-sacrifice of the highest ilk. This is amplified by the Masonic depiction of the transformation from ‘Rough Ashlar’ to its perfect successor.

The Philosopher’s Stone is certainly the ‘summum bonnum’ of the Hermetic (inward) Quest – bestowed as a result of high ethical action taken in the external world, and truncated into the form of a ‘cube’ in Masonic ritual.

Since the Stone is the result of any particular personal ‘crucifixion’, the outcome is undoubtedly a ‘Christing’ of the individual concerned. Of course, he or she may – and no doubt being human will – slip in future life but the achievement eternally remains, indelibly printed, as it were, on their soul, recognition from and guarantee of the world of Spirit (which is not the supposed “world” of the Spiritualists who, telepathically reading minds and adding fact to primitive imagination and fancy, as well as the myths of their own traditions, fail to understand Hermeticism).

So, dear patient reader, this book certainly now wishes to pay homage to Paracelsus, Basil Valentine, Henricus Madathnus Theosophus, the authors of the Hermetic Museum and all other Hermetic Adepts of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries in particular. They are still not to be swallowed whole, of course. Far from it. But the true symbols are embedded within their texts and have continued to be carried in Masonic and occult systems ever since the Middle Ages.

Hopefully, also, this work will have given the true story of contemporary occult movements, thereby allowing the discerning enquirer after Wisdom to further sort out the wheat from the chaff, for much chaff there is!

izi
03-06-2009, 07:26 AM
It's boring. For me that's bad enough.

I'm like there's no dark knights as promised by the title, and fucking freemasons. blaghhhhhhhHHHhhhhhhh

m1thr0s
03-06-2009, 10:25 AM
this writing style is loose-ended and "loaded" on many levels, so it's hard to gain much of an overview from this sample alone. I had to look up "Reuss’s O.T.O." for instance since
Geoffrey Basil Smith seems to be assuming everybody automatically knows what this means. It is dangerous and unprofessional for any work of this sort to be starting from a conclusion, which seems to be the case here...

But I haven't read the book itself. My instinct is that you would wind up with a lot of disjointed bits and pieces you would need to follow-up on privately to get a true perspective on things...

So...*hard to say*...I guess would be my first impression...

note: Theodor Reuss: (wiki link) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Reuss)

edit: who the hell is Geoffrey Basil Smith anyway? I can't seem to find a descent bios on him anywhere!

m1

izi
03-06-2009, 10:57 AM
yeah that's a problem I had too...so much of it relies on this occult colloquialism everyone is supposed to care about - as if I should care - it's like name-dropping, it only works if your audience is so deluded as to be impressed by the reference of important sounding words and names - fluff basically.

then he's got a zillion things in parentheses which always impairs lucidity of vision into what the author is trying to convey.

I find myself agreeing with a lot of it - but it's choppy reading.

m1thr0s
03-06-2009, 11:11 AM
I suspect it's going to be just another crowley-bashing book, which seem to be skittering out from under any loose floorboard these days.

These people need to be very careful...most of them are parochial prudes masquerading as the white-knight defenders of new age morality when in truth they don't know their shit from their oatmeal about much of anything...

But I will say that the OTO itself was a tremendous let-down to me personally and that is undoubtedly because I am a very hard core *student* of occultism and such...it just turned out to be more of a social-club than I needed. I would have much preferred the more academic platform Smith is going on about...

So he may have his points.

m1

Taiji Bum
03-06-2009, 01:06 PM
It's boring. For me that's bad enough.

I'm like there's no dark knights as promised by the title, and fucking freemasons. blaghhhhhhhHHHhhhhhhh
HEY! Freemasons rule! :yes:

Anibis
03-06-2009, 03:41 PM
YouTube - Stonecutters song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-KZyniB4c&feature=related)
-A-

izi
03-06-2009, 07:33 PM
wtf?

Samyama
03-10-2009, 05:03 AM
I don't think it's worth looking for Geoffrey Basil Smith. I checked on him, but only found links to 'popular conspiracy sites', nothing worth mentioning here.

crossoflight
03-10-2009, 05:48 AM
who the hell is Geoffrey Basil Smith anyway? I can't seem to find a descent bios on him anywhere!

m1




Geoffrey Basil Smith

Resident of Sheffield, England
Refers to himself as I AM The Magus Dr. G
Frequently refers to himself as “I” (in inverted commas)
Working class origins
Brought up in a Swedenborgian/Spiritualist household
Graham Bond (musician with occult links – claimed to be the son of Crowley) was an early mentor
Worked within Theosophy and Neo-Theosophy until 1985
Embraced forms of Martinism and the like after 1985
Describes himself as Magus, Hierophant and Hermit, and a defender the arcane Art of Alchemy
States he is a Magus of the Great White Brotherhood
40 years’ experience/training in the A.A. and related orders
Endured the 8degree-3square A.A. Magister Templi initiation c. 1997 (see ‘The Black Pilgrimage’ in the Abrahadabra Magick forum)
Is aware of only 4 people who have crossed the Abyss in his 40 years of experience - Crowley, Jack Parsons,‘ G.M. Kelly’ and Geoffrey Basil Smith)
Frequent guest on the astral planes
Former member of a Grey Lodge
Possesses Grand Mastership of 28 renowned occult Orders thanks to Count Boyer
States he is the Head of the O.T.O. in Europe and possessor of the original charter from Gardner, which he keeps in a safe deposit box
Praises Gardner for founding the fastest growing religion in the world
Loves ‘Firechild’ by Maxine Sanders
Admires the excellent historical work of his friend Philip Heselton
States that the true early forms of esoteric symbolic wisdom reside in all the rituals of the Masonic lodges, especially in the 95 degrees of the Memphis Rite
Possesses the 18th degree in Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite masonry
States that Ernest Mason, a Rosicrucian and Co-mason, could actually walk on water
He “always had access to world-ranking Grand Masters and elderly Adepts whom I loved as Elder Brothers (for example, Desmond Burke, the Golden Dawn Praemonstrator and Arch-Druid, Sar Louis Bentin, head of the Martinist Order and Synarchy, and ‘Andrew Tomas’ who trained in ‘Russian Martinism’ of the Gold and Rosy Cross).”
States of ‘Dark Knights of the Solar Cross’ – “In England, it so impressed United Grand Lodge’s historian that he wished to re-print it, placing it in Societas Rosicruciana’s library – and in America, it particularly excited OTO Caliphate historian Allen Greenfield (note ‘Hermetic Brotherhood Revisited’ in ‘The Scarlet Letter’, Scarlet Lady Lodge(?))”
States ‘Dark Knights of the Solar Cross’ “= the Adeptus degree of the R.R. and A.C. or the 2nd Order of the Golden Dawn.”
Member of a Naqshbandi Turkish tariqat (Sufi order)
Wrote the preface to David Wood’s ‘grotesque neo-Freudian book’ (I don’t know which book he’s referring to)
States that Heidreik is a ‘Yankee kalifate boaster’ and “Yankee scholarship always stinks: shallow and never going completely through ‘any tunnel’. Idle, sloppy and vulgar. All of ‘em!”
States that Dion Fortune’s Masters were “Neo-Theosophical two dimensional cardboard imaginations.”
Refers to Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth, the Illuminates of Thanateros and practitioners of Chaos magic as ‘adolescent wankers’
Pours scorn on the music of Coil and Current 93
The source for this information is a series of letters sent to me by Dr. G during the period January 2008 – February 2009.

I have heard from another reputable source that G.B. Smith was a rock journalist but I’ve never seen any examples of his work in this field.

I’ve deliberately refrained from commenting on Dr. G’s claims for now but I have a definite intention to voice my opinions at some time in the near future.

izi
03-10-2009, 09:03 AM
"frequent guest on the astral planes"

what a load of bullshit

dev
03-11-2009, 03:34 AM
Geoffrey Basil Smith = crossoflight

Both hang in the same town, and both are working (supposedly) as some form of journalists!

:p

crossoflight
03-11-2009, 04:37 AM
I can assure you that Geoffrey Basil Smith is definitely not Cross of Light and that I'm not a journalist. It's true that we do live in the same city, though.

m1thr0s
03-11-2009, 10:59 AM
thanks for the bios points crossoflight...that was a fun read!

sounds like he's an opinionated arsehole anyway! :laugh:

I can't fault him for dizzing the American OTO but seeing as how he seems to think he's *the one* true-blue blah blah blah I'm not terribly impressed thus far...

maybe we're due for an OTO version of the Highlander...cast of *undead* thousands etc...:confused:

m1

AfterViewer
03-11-2009, 07:26 PM
There can be only ONE, and that one be ..... Hey, that reminds me. Has anyone here ever checked out the White Room ( infinite soft light energy) while "unraveling", and if so, were you standing up at the time, and did you disorient as your "body disappeared" before your "eyes"? Just curious. AV.

AfterViewer
03-12-2009, 11:01 AM
Also: If one is a regular guest speaker on the ASTRAL PLANE, which includes DREAMSTATE, is there someplace I can read a review of the author's publication? (While on the ASTRAL myself, as I like to read while I am there). AV.

AfterViewer
03-14-2009, 06:32 PM
What exactly does this entail, crossoflight? How many people have died from this "practice"? AV.


Endured the 8degree-3square A.A. Magister Templi initiation c. 1997 (see ‘The Black Pilgrimage’ in the Abrahadabra Magick forum)
Is aware of only 4 people who have crossed the Abyss in his 40 years of experience - Crowley, Jack Parsons,‘ G.M. Kelly’ and Geoffrey Basil Smith)
Frequent guest on the astral planes. PS: Official documentation would be nice. AV>out.

crossoflight
03-19-2009, 05:32 AM
Thanks to everyone for the replies.

I'll let Austin Osman Spare speak for me on this occasion (I know this excerpt appears elsewhere on Abrahadabra but it never fails to delight me):

“Others praise ceremonial Magic, and are supposed to suffer much Ecstasy! Our asylums are crowded, the stage is over-run! Is it by symbolizing we become the symbolized? Were I to crown myself King, should I be King? Rather should I be an object of disgust or pity. These Magicians, whose insincerity is their safety, are but the unemployed dandies of the Brothels… I know them well and their creed of learning that teaches the fear of their own light. Vampires, they are as the very lice in attraction. Their practices prove their incapacity, they have no magic to intensify the normal, the joy of a child or healthy person, none to evoke their pleasure or wisdom from themselves… their knowledge obtained by less decency than the hyena his food, I say they are less free and do not obtain the satisfaction of the meanest among animals. Self condemned in their disgusting fatness, their emptiness of power, without even the magic of personal charm or beauty, they are offensive in their bad taste and mongering for advertisement.”

Austin Osman Spare, from ‘The Book of Pleasure (Self-Love): The Psychology of Ecstasy’

If you were really the head of '28 renowned Occult orders', you'd have an average of just over 13 days a year to spend on the administration of each of them. Fortunately, the task becomes much easier when 28 of the 28 orders don't actually exist.

AfterViewer
03-19-2009, 12:28 PM
Twenty-eight out of twenty-eight =awesomeness. AV.

crossoflight
03-24-2009, 04:20 AM
The following letter was hand delivered to my work place. The first sheet is numbered ‘5’ – numbers ‘1’ to ‘4’ were not included. I think pages 5 and 6 relate to my work entitled ‘Transfiguration of SOAB’.

5.
“There is not one shred of sanity or coherence in any of the new prose (quite an achievement & probably a record) - & 100% dislocation. Nothing fits with anything else in any sentence.

I am very au fait with all the classical literature on paranoiac schizophrenia (Swedenborg, Strindberg et al) & yours is a case study on a par with Freud’s text on Schreber. You dismiss the psychoanalysts but I distrust your learning (if any) & in any case you’re wrong.

I think you are a paranoiac schizophrenic with attendant homosexual leanings (as they all have)

6.
So your work is not so much psychedelic as out-&-out psychotic & I’m not surprised you haven’t issued it in book form for sale. Chris Brain & NOS could have you in court for libel for sure – but I think you ‘all’ could get away with pleading insanity.

If your employers ever get hold of it (the absurd irony of your being a teacher of psychiatric nurses!!) I think you’ll be out of a job.

Patrick(s): Get yourself treated (& I say this as one conversant with all forms of eccentricity but ‘Transformation’ is so idiosyncratic it’s disturbing as well as laugh-out-loud loony).

Dr G

P.S.

SMURFY…

Although my own chartered lineage is almost identical to Keizer’s, his methods of presentation are not my own & although we have links through a common source of succession, etc., we enact totally independently of one another. In trying to attack ‘me’, please don’t make the mistake of going for the American Dr since his c.v. shows him to be one of the most intelligent & highly qualified men on the planet.

P.P.S.
I have quite a surprise in store for you when I next see/pass you young man (men). Be prepared.

BE VERY CAREFUL HOW YOU REFER TO MY 28 ORDERS IN FUTURE SINCE I HAVE IDENTICAL LINEAGE TO BISHOP KEIZER (ALTHOUGH MINE ARE NOT UNDER M.O.T. AEGIS BUT UNDER MY LEADERSHIP. OTHER DIGNITARIES IN CANADA, EUROPE & SOUTH AMERICA, ETC. I ALSO HAVE CHARTERS FOR OTHER RELATED ORDERS WHICH WERE AWARDED TO ME BECAUSE OF MY ENDEAVOUR. COUNT BOYER (ALSO A BISHOP) & I ALSO AWARDED A RUSSIAN MARTINIST CHARTER TO DR KEIZER WHOSE LODGE IS FULLY OPERATIVE. JUST BECAUSE MY LODGES ARE (PARTIALLY) DORMANT DOES NOT MEAN THE 28 ORDERS DO NOT EXIST, AND THEY ARE NOT BEING OPERATED. PLEASE CORRECT THIS – IMMEDIATELY! – IN FRONT OF YOUR AMERICAN ABRAHADABRA =”SCHOLARS”= OR WORLD-WIDE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU WILL BE SOUGHT BY ME. YOU ARE INDEED LEGALLY NAÏVE!!!

DR G.

Enclosures:

1.
http://www.geocites.com/roggemansmarcel/milkomartinisme.htm (http://www.geocites.com/roggemansmarcel/milkomartinisme.htm) (link no longer active)

Comment:
“THE PINKS ARE ALSO MINE, DEAR BOY. ALL CHARTERS AVAILABLE FOR COURT PROCEEDINGS. One exhibit enclosed.”

Highlighted in pink:
The O*M*CC Lineage
The French “Martinist Order of the Knights of Christ / Ordre Martiniste des Chevaliers du Christ”
“Disciplina Arcani”
The S::I::
The Elus Cohen
A lineage descended from John Yarker (1833-1913), ending in Dr. Lewis Keyzer
The Ancient Universal Pansophic Masonic Rite

2.
http://www.hometemple.org/PANSOPHIC.htm (http://www.hometemple.org/PANSOPHIC.htm)
The first 9 pages of a 15 page printout.

3.
A3 photocopy of a certificate reading:

ORDER OF THE ILLUMINATI
Grand Archon: Count George Boyer
Greetings To All Brothers in the Light
This is to Certify
That
Geoffrey Basil Smith
Has been duly accepted into the Sublime Degree of
King Man
In
Our Illustrious Order
This 7th day of September, 2000
Signed
G. Boyer
Grand Archon

m1thr0s
03-24-2009, 06:06 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

well I don't know the whole background, but I'm guessing you pissed him off!
wow...a person could almost die of fright just contemplating it...if not laughter...:cool:

ps: I wonder just how much *lineage* it takes to make a useful ball of string...:confused:

m1
(the soon-to-be-recognized unequivocal lord of the universe...:rofl:)

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 06:36 PM
:dull:I don't know about you guys but I like being referred to as a "scholar" as well as a gentleman. AV.

m1thr0s
03-24-2009, 06:49 PM
well I don't know...it might be worth it to really pull his chain...a wrongful lawsuit counter-suit can generate a whole lot of fast cashola...well...perhaps not so fast, but still...

if he thinks there is no freedom of speech (or thought) left in this country, he's pissing up the wrong damn rope...

I must admit I'm a little relieved he doesn't live in my neighborhood...do they have no pest exterminators in your neck of the woods crossoflight? no *Roach King*? scary...
If he persists with these nefarious hate letters being dropped off in secret I would really recommend contacting the authorities...that's just plain creepy.

edit: for the record...we've been very gentle with this individual thus far. No reason not to be since most of us are largely unfamiliar with him and are just trying to sort out his real (or not so real) contributions to occult philosophy at large. I find it particularly intriguing that he would go balistic all of a sudden when we've been treating his royal highness with kid gloves! Pretty well tells me everything I needed to know about him! :cool:

m1

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 06:57 PM
Ahhh, the trials of writing a book online, winging it as you go....

izi
03-24-2009, 07:47 PM
he's a fucking commie

m1thr0s
03-24-2009, 08:04 PM
still, I've been wanting to convert this site to an 18+ site for a couple of years now and also beef up our existing disclaimer...prissy occult fukwads have discovered the power the almighty lawsuit and while it is extremely difficult to make any discussion board legally responsible for the casual views of its members...the legal process itself can be consuming.

something to revisit...up to now vBulletin has been playing deaf, dumb and blind to the issue altogether, though there may finally be a hack of some kind available...
(oh xst, I hope they don't sue me for comparing them to cripples, or the cripples sue me for comparing them to a bunch of bureaucratic idjits, or the idjits sue me for...oh fuck it!) :mad:

want to see a really killer disclaimer?
http://www.bestgore.com/disclaimer/

these cats have one of those really expensive lawyers on tap someplace...:laugh:

m1

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 08:23 PM
FORUM BY DEFINITION: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=6Jz&defl=en&q=define:forum&ei=QaPJSYK8FcSDtgfH-PWqAw&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 08:30 PM
;)Did anybody catch who the "slanderous" Doctor SillyPants called a "homosexual"? AV. PS: Great disclaimer, M1 , I fell for it! Hee!

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 08:48 PM
:dull:Define: "GOOGLENOMICS."

AfterViewer
03-24-2009, 08:54 PM
:dull:"CONTINUITY". Post deleted to facilitate the last post of the thread "Building a Few Pyramids".

m1thr0s
03-24-2009, 09:14 PM
oh cool...somebody came up with a *tweak*...not even a hack...simple code change...

I'm gonna plug it in...traditionally the study of magick/occultism has been restricted to adults...or at least the joining with any such groups etc. I think we should be following the same standard here. We still can't guarantee people will actually be 18+ but we can't guarantee they will be 13+ now! No age validation system yet devised is anywhere near foolproof...but we can at least set the standard the way it ought to be.

now...hope I don't accidentally blow up the boards! :o_O:

edit - done...and we're still here! :laugh:

m1

AfterViewer
03-25-2009, 06:10 PM
:DYAY ! IS IT OK NOW TO Hi-JACK THIS THREAD? (Completely).

m1thr0s
03-25-2009, 10:00 PM
JUST BECAUSE MY LODGES ARE (PARTIALLY) DORMANT DOES NOT MEAN THE 28 ORDERS DO NOT EXIST...Just because a dog has no teeth doesn't mean he can't bite you!!! :laugh::rofl:

Talk about a hair-brained logic...:eek:

okeedokee your imperialness...*practically* non-existent then...:p

m1

AfterViewer
03-26-2009, 10:06 AM
:dull:Do fries come with those orders? (logic makes me hungry).

AfterViewer
03-26-2009, 10:13 AM
Define Googlenomics: http://blogmaverick.com/2006/12/12/googlenomics-itunes-and-zune/

AfterViewer
03-26-2009, 10:21 AM
AND: http://www.electronicretailermag.com/info/0908_google.html