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here's an odd little factoid - Lavey has this rule for Satanists - it's some list of rules you should follow when "wandering the earth" - whatever
"5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. "
what is this? isn't a mating signal a sexual advance?
what is the signal, some kind of hand sign?
damn. im confused and now I just don't know if im doing it right
frater luciferi
03-19-2009, 12:47 AM
most women i know will do a little thing with their hair using there hand. I really dont think that levay meant anything more deep then watching for people giving non-vebal signals. Because knowing levay it probably is'nt really that deep..i mean its levay right? neo-satanism version 1.0 was kinda primitive compared to what we have now.
frater luciferi
03-19-2009, 12:56 AM
dont get me wrong though, i love anton levays stuff. I just take it all with a grain of salt.
Judging from the Satanic Witch by Lavey I would be a bit afraid to move on the mating signal since it could be a trap!
:cool:
Octarine Prince
03-19-2009, 03:55 AM
The brushing the hair back thing is one.
Practice, Naomi, practice!
Anibis
03-19-2009, 04:55 AM
I thought it was when you flashed that big gold ring with the 'M' on it up to the heavens... or was I supposed to not talk about that?
-A-
Catalytic Subterfuge
03-19-2009, 05:24 AM
:laugh:he he he
I thought it was when you flashed that big gold ring with the 'M' on it up to the heavens... or was I supposed to not talk about that?
-A-
that's not funny Anibis.
Teygerlilly
03-19-2009, 12:23 PM
Hmm not convinced about the hair thing.
my hair, for example, is very long.
preventing it to fall in my face I stroke it
not really vanity either.. just a very useful habit the way i see it .
what am saying is, it doesn't always have to be a signal but it can be.
the man who gets my permission
will receive signals,
yet they wont be seen physically.
but then again, i have not read Lavey
and I cant call myself a Satanist .
so am probably talking out the box...
Taiji Bum
03-19-2009, 04:40 PM
The hair thing is how I knew my current girlfiend was interested in me. Even now its how I gage what she is in the mood for whether its up or down or if she is playing with it or not. (Am I really posting in the satanism area?)
Octarine Prince
03-19-2009, 05:34 PM
Preening!
I have been subconsciously trying to remember that damn word for half the day.
That's what the hair thing is an example of.
m1thr0s
03-19-2009, 09:21 PM
the man who gets my permission
will receive signals,
yet they wont be seen physically.being a pretty visual person I am curious how this works...I mean, even facial expressions amount to some sort of visual cueing.
Men are pretty thick a lot times...do you run into situations where they just don't get these *invisible* signals?
I can't help wondering just how many of these I have probably missed myself!
I'm a little braindead when it comes to social cues...if a girl rips all her clothes off and jumps in my lap I'll probably take that as a clue...:o
m1
j00lz
03-20-2009, 02:01 AM
To see/read the invisible signals you must either trust your sub/unconscious to pass the information to a different channel ie a feeling..... or be very consciously observant!
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/41/messages/1097.html
EYES ARE THE MIRROR (MIRRORS) OF THE SOUL -- "A person's thoughts can be ascertained by looking in his or her eyes. The proverb has been traced back in English to 'Regiment of Life' (1545). But the proverb was known much earlier. Cicero (106-43 B.C.) is quoted as saying, 'Ut imago est animi voltus sic indices oculi' (The face is a picture of the mind as the eyes are its interpreter). The L*tin proverbs, 'Vultus est index animi' or 'Oculus animi index,' are usually translated as 'The face is the index of the mind.' The French say, 'Les yeux sont le miroir de l'dme (The eyes are the mirror of the soul). 'The eyes are the window of the soul' is a variant form of the proverb..." From "Random House Dictionary of Popular Proverbs and Sayings" by Gregory Y. Titelman (Random House, New York, 1996).
Also check this:
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/try-eye-trick-right.html
j00lz
i think i'll stick to my policy of jumping on people i am attracted to
m1thr0s
03-20-2009, 01:38 PM
To see/read the invisible signals you must either trust your sub/unconscious to pass the information to a different channel ie a feeling..... or be very consciously observant!observation has never been any kind of problem for me...but interpretation probably has...so it seems to me that in order to pick up on such cues, one has to already be on the same channel in some way...
I find myself almost always operating on a whole other frequency than the rest of the human race for whatever reasons...so that may be a special kind of problem in itself...although, curiously enough, it never really strikes me as an actual problem per se...it's just a sort of obstacle I have come to recognize and navigate...
m1
Teygerlilly
03-20-2009, 05:02 PM
Humans are much richer than can ever be imagined.
On energetic level communication exists as well.
Jools quotes and describes nicely a part of the process.
Yes, both must be on the same channel, vibrate on same frequency, or at least carry in themselves the potential of that same vibration. All that needs to be is conscious awareness. But to tell you the truth, this is the hardest task ever to be accomplished (imao) .
Carbon Class Six
03-20-2009, 09:32 PM
The biggest clue I ever notice is...."hey, that girl is really looking at me a lot" typically it doesn't mean they think I look like a freak :laugh: Or if you are in conversation with someone and they hold your gaze for longer than normal (which can be just a second more), you're probably in the money. It all comes down to interest in a sort of magnetic way....e.g. you are drawn to someone or vice versa, then you give all the mating signals subconsciously.
My biggest problem though is believing my interpretation...."I think she digs me, or i dunno maybe she's just nice...well she did do this thing, etc. etc." until I just say screw it and stop caring...which makes them come at you even more! lol
Taiji Bum
03-21-2009, 07:29 AM
i think i'll stick to my policy of jumping on people i am attracted to
subtle... :eek:
frater luciferi
03-21-2009, 12:59 PM
im a atypical aspie. i have a lot of problems detecting subtle signals.
Saxarba
10-13-2009, 05:56 PM
the mating signal Lavey was referring to is more psychic in nature than physical. it can have many different physical expressions but these vary with typicality. it has more to do with magnetism.
playing with hair is actually not that strong of an indicator of a link, though it usually does mean something. more of an indicator of interest,which in my eyes is not the same as "the mating signal". a stronger signal is when a woman arches her back. probably has something to do with prana and what not.
Ritual_Kiss
10-13-2009, 06:28 PM
Hmmm. signals can be misinterpreted. Sometimes people think I'm interested in them, when I'm interested in their conversation. I prefer to just say "Hey, I like you! A lot!" that tends to clear things up.
when I'm interested, I tend to smile and blush a lot. I also tend to make any excuse to see them and talk to them. But I have to be clear with them, because sometimes people get mad at me for their own misinterpretation of some apparent "signal" I gave them.
Ritual_Kiss
10-13-2009, 06:28 PM
Judging from the Satanic Witch by Lavey I would be a bit afraid to move on the mating signal since it could be a trap!
:cool:
Thanks for reminding me of that. I still have to give that a read.
Saxarba
10-13-2009, 06:45 PM
people give false signals all the time because more often than not, both men and women, are unsure of what they want. I wholly disparage this. I'm also pretty intense, which was a block for a long time because I wasn't sure how to handle it. if people aren't willing to lose control entirely, or either take control entirely, then I don't see the point. being direct is the only sensible way of going about these matters
s1m0n
10-13-2009, 10:17 PM
Hmmm. signals can be misinterpreted.
True. :yes:
And if you're visually impaired signals don't get picked up at all. :o_O:
Saxarba
10-13-2009, 10:30 PM
But I have to be clear with them, because sometimes people get mad at me for their own misinterpretation of some apparent "signal" I gave them.
yeah I dunno, thats a weird area.
on my end, as a male that is, if I'm not sure, and depending on the type of girl, I can generally get a clear signal if I suddenly change my routines briefly, really just one out of place gesture is usually enough. then I can gauge her inclinations, by what "carries over". is it worth pursuing or is she just like "whatever"?
but generally I'm not even in that area as its generally a waste of time, and more often that not, you get people to like you, men and women, by just engaging with them. how many hot chicks are with butt ugly guys? it wasn't love at first sight I'll tell you that
Ritual_Kiss
10-13-2009, 10:50 PM
I think in some cases it's money. It has to be. Exhibit A via Hot Chicks with Douchebags: http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/uploaded_images/DB9109-790502.jpg
Saxarba
10-13-2009, 10:56 PM
right, well thats a sector of reality I don't have personal experience in. but no doubt
edit: yeah that guy is definitely a douchebag. I'd ask where you got that picture but I'm not sure I want to know
Ritual_Kiss
10-13-2009, 11:12 PM
The sites called Hot Chicks with Douchebags. Through this site I discovered a fetish for oompa loompas.
Saxarba
10-13-2009, 11:16 PM
more about the mating signal. when it does "go off", I'm pretty sure there is some sort of genetic factor going on. like we unconsciously recognize certain advanced genetic traits. in various tantras they go to lengths to describe the physical characteristics of the best sexual partners. and so the conclusion here can only be that psychic qualities are represented in physical traits, which my experience has led me to believe to be true.
thats the "ideal", more often than not its just about sexual gratification, which actually annoys the hell out of me because its so tenuous and I haven't had a long term partner in years. Maybe I'm an idiot. but I just don't have much in common with most people to warrant such a relationship
Ritual_Kiss
10-13-2009, 11:30 PM
What you're saying is perfectly reasonable. There is definitely a genetic factor going on. For example, much of the bases for what we find attractive is mostly chemical which is picked up by smell. We may not consciously recognize it, but it's there.
I feel the need to also point out that what's genetically desirable to one is not desirable to the next person. Have you ever noticed that people with certain hair colours give off a particular scent? For example, redheads don't all smell the same, but I notice a similarity between them. Same goes for every group. That smell is going to be more appealing to some than to others. It's subtle, but we pick up on it on a subconscious level. I think that's only one of various ways in which we determine which traits are desirable.
UHF Tycoon
10-13-2009, 11:42 PM
in various tantras they go to lengths to describe the physical characteristics of the best sexual partners.
I'd like to know more about this. Can you cite which tantras describe these qualities?
Saxarba
10-14-2009, 12:02 AM
I feel the need to also point out that what's genetically desirable to one is not desirable to the next person.
I was sort of hinting at that by using the term "advanced" genetic traits, as well as by bringing up the tantras. as in, people on this forum have advanced genetic makeups,
Have you ever noticed that people with certain hair colours give off a particular scent? For example, redheads don't all smell the same, but I notice a similarity between them.
yes I have noticed this, thats funny, because everyone I've ever tried talking to about this just gives me a weird look.
Body odor can also be indicative of psychological traits. Yogi's are known to have very sweet smelling body odor. Also, any healthy individual's B.O. is really not offensive.
I went though a period of intense meditation several years ago, and by the end of it, my BO was very sweet smelling. Its fallen off since then, but its never totally reversed back
Ritual_Kiss
10-14-2009, 12:22 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. It's a tricky thing to talk about. People can mistake you for being prejudiced.
I love your new avatar, btw. :)
I think this is a very good rule actually and would make alot of peace with alot of females. As there are countless of females getting harrassed by countless men that just want to stick their dick inside everything that walks, which is a bit outrageous I think... I know I have the same problem myself on certain mental or emotional layers, but atleast I do not take that much action upon it as some men do which is a bit stupid imho...
Ritual_Kiss
10-14-2009, 12:53 PM
A lot of the time women are harassed by men, it's just to get a rise out of us. for example, walking down the street some guys will make kissing noises at you and make comments about your pussy. When they do that, I think they can't really be stupid enough to think that will make us go "Oh creepy random stranger! Do you really want to eat me out?!! I'd love that!" and when you tell them to fuck off they just laugh with their friends. I think it's a matter of feeling powerful by making others feel uncomfortable and/or scared. 'Cause there really isn't much you can do to defend yourself from that.
Hm. Still I like the idea of saying that the next time someone says something like that to me. That is, unless I thought they could hurt me.
Filius Fortunae
10-14-2009, 01:02 PM
I got geeked as fuck on a bunch of acid and shrooms and molly once with a bunch of friends and went to a rave and was involved in the orchestration of a small orgy with a number of close friends afterward and thoughout the course of the experience came to a large number of nonverbal realizations regarding the nature of male/female mating rituals. To excerpt a journal entry written the following day:
"People are born so they can live and they live so they can spread the joy of life to other people and they can take part in the cosmic cycle of life and death and sex and rebirth. It's a big dance. Every tree, every leaf, every molecule, every person, every animal is part of the great parade of nature. There is only one Goddess and there is only one God and there is only one act of procreation."
lol.
As mention earlier, a lot of it seems to take place on a purely psychic or vibratory level. Furthermore, it seems to follow a dance pattern. One partner initiates the movements and the dance slowly escalates following a series of reciprocations by each partner. These signals seem to be given off on a largely subconscious level. I imagine that this is why the usual dating advice for young people is something to the effect of, "just be yourself," which could probably also be re-stated as, "fear is the mindkiller." Non-action is the key to success in many ways, one must aspire to be like the daoist "man of calling" and simply let go and allow the primal energy to flow through you and manifest itself in its own ways.
Now, depending upon one's level of conscious/subconsious/superconsicous integration you can easily exploit this knowledge for personal benefit. I'm not quite sure whether I'd recommend this, however. In general, attempting to apply such theories to actual practice has yielded much data that seems to confirm such speculation but, at the same time, leads me to believe that further experimentation would be unethical.
A lot of the time women are harassed by men, it's just to get a rise out of us. for example, walking down the street some guys will make kissing noises at you and make comments about your pussy. When they do that, I think they can't really be stupid enough to think that will make us go "Oh creepy random stranger! Do you really want to eat me out?!! I'd love that!" and when you tell them to fuck off they just laugh with their friends. I think it's a matter of feeling powerful by making others feel uncomfortable and/or scared. 'Cause there really isn't much you can do to defend yourself from that.
Hm. Still I like the idea of saying that the next time someone says something like that to me. That is, unless I thought they could hurt me.
Someday those same men will meet a woman much more powerful than them and they will get humiliated :laugh:
I usually slap men like that in the face even though I'm a male but I tend to like to keep things clean :)
your affirmation of women is a singularly redeeming quality, Amur
your affirmation of women is a singularly redeeming quality, Amur
I think it's your own projection and perspective of what I write, not the other way around. To explain more what I wrote is that someday those same men are going to meet a man inside a woman body and that might be quite fun to watch (with popcorn of course :laugh:).
Saxarba
10-14-2009, 04:12 PM
a very enlightened post FF
j00lz
11-10-2009, 10:47 PM
Interpretation is the key to decoding signals.
Think of all your sensory channels....
specifically in terms of communication input and output signals.
ie.
We can hear sounds (Auditory in) as well as make sounds (auditory out)
We can feel things as well as manipulate things.... kinesthetic in and out...
we smell and we can smell 'the other' ....
we have a taste and can taste 'the other'...
we can see (Visual In) and we imagine/project = visual out...
3rd Eye ~ Telepathy ~ Visual Communication
Visual Out - The Next Stage of Human Evolution (http://www.nlpconnections.com/showthread.php?t=6644)
Can you see what I'm getting at ;-)
We all do this all the time....
both as a reaction and as an action
the difficult bit is observing/interpreting others 'visual out'
interpreting the surface of the skin you can see,
in relation to a 0 dimensional inspirational force...
shaping the higher dimensions
I think working in a bar or being a DJ is a great vantage point to observe this in action.
Saxarba
11-11-2009, 08:53 AM
NLP forum...cool
interpreting anothers visual out...hmm
I know what you're referring to.
Its kind of sad though because, I haven't 'gone out' in a while.
and so, I feel like, that ability has atrophied in me.
But...it really hasn't...
Its more subtle than the other senses. Theres only certain types of visual out that you'll even pick. Our preference, or what we 'try to get' out of social interaction, and who we want to involve ourselves with changes. So over time we drop sensitivity to certain 'visual outs' and acquire sensitivity to others.
j00lz
11-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Peoples 'visual out' is basically reflected within themselves.
Or you could equally say it reverberates out from themselves.
If your on the same wavelength your basically another part of themselves.
here is a good example of a male's mating signal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuUwW4Wi0-o&feature=related
personally I think this whole mating signal/sexual advances thing is a bunch of hooey. like people need LaVey to tell them how to flirt and/or not be a rapist? oy...
Samyama
03-24-2010, 07:27 AM
Here another, from the female...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izBbP2kro-c
I think the mating signals represents our reptile/mammal brain giving a cue signal of somekind that 'ok let's mate' and is probably not more special than that, another thing is that we have this neo-cortex that pretty well filters out anything that isn't in line with our current reality-paradigm (or emotional setting) so it might as well go unnoticed...
being a pretty visual person I am curious how this works...I mean, even facial expressions amount to some sort of visual cueing.
Men are pretty thick a lot times...do you run into situations where they just don't get these *invisible* signals?
I can't help wondering just how many of these I have probably missed myself!
I'm a little braindead when it comes to social cues...if a girl rips all her clothes off and jumps in my lap I'll probably take that as a clue...:o
m1
:laugh:
Sounds like a scientific approach to me (I mean I got better things myself to do inside my mind than to shift attention to if someone is giving me a clue or not :laugh: );)
Saxarba
04-06-2010, 06:02 PM
Men are pretty thick a lot times...do you run into situations where they just don't get these *invisible* signals?
yeah i do that all the time - i have no idea wtf is up with that
Like, this isn't actually a real rule - i mean who listens to it, not Satanists. But if it were I think the only reason for it would be to protect our egos from crushing rejection. Maybe it's just a "cool" way for Lavey to ask people not to rape girls. Lavey was really not all that deep. He gave an "out" to people into black magic to come to terms with their dark streaks in era where the norm was very restrictive. Not at all like today were we DO really enjoy a lot more freedom as individuals.
The mating signal to me were I to take it seriously, is like a wink, but it would still be a risk interpreting it. I read thoughts and that makes it somewhat easier.
My current lover sometimes uses a certain look - he partly closes his eyes, and shifts towards me with a sidelong glance. Or turn towards me and caress something just off a sweet spot to indicate interest without actually getting to the point of it. Or else another thing I notice is that he adjusts his crotch or stretches and lounges languorously.
hitman777
04-09-2010, 02:21 AM
I think that a good indicator is when the female drops down before you and begins unzipping your fly. That's usually when I catch on.
katiafish
04-09-2010, 05:00 AM
Yeah, I am kind of clueless.. Until i feel the hand up my skirt lol Seriously though, some lost opportunities will probably haunt me forever, due to me being so damn clueless..
I think looking for a cue, visual or auditory, will kinda miss the spirit of the thing, and likely result in incorrect assumptions.
It's more a 'feel' thing, call it a form of empathy.
I dunno. I don't really find people's internal thought processes to be very private anymore. at least not in person. So the whole thing of having to do 'guesswork' is fading into ever more distant memory.
Interestingly, I find that after achieving a degree of social-psychological-magical grace & artistry such that you could pretty much score with anyone without even really trying... that the allure of doing so almost entirely disappears.
Suddenly instead of it being a matter of "who could I get?" it becomes "who would I want?"... which results in much more selective answers.
And then ultimately you realize that if you are capable of just cherry picking a date on whim (without their active self-driven will being much of a factor)... then without their active participatory consent, and the genuine free-willed capability for rejecting you, that they aren't really very ideal mating choices for the same reasons that impressionable children aren't.
all of which probably sounds wildly egomaniacal.
guilty as charged I'm afraid.
*shrug* humans aren't generally very skilled lovers anyway.
question: do you actually seek out a mate? or do you just 'end up with one', by way of failing to evade their advances? when i was young it seemed like the former, but for my entire adult life the later has been the case for me.
Vociferor
03-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Theres only certain types of visual out that you'll even pick. Our preference, or what we 'try to get' out of social interaction, and who we want to involve ourselves with changes. So over time we drop sensitivity to certain 'visual outs' and acquire sensitivity to others.
Good observation.
Vociferor
03-13-2011, 08:40 PM
*shrug* humans aren't generally very skilled lovers anyway.
question: do you actually seek out a mate? or do you just 'end up with one', by way of failing to evade their advances? when i was young it seemed like the former, but for my entire adult life the later has been the case for me.
forgive me for sounding blunt, but... you don't sound very satisfied.
Ritual_Kiss
03-13-2011, 08:48 PM
How did you come to that? Really good relationships can come when your not actively looking. How does that equate to being unsatisfied? Also, that statement kind of crosses into territory that isn't your business anyhow.
Vociferor
03-13-2011, 09:19 PM
How did you come to that?
*shrug* humans aren't generally very skilled lovers anyway.
question: do you actually seek out a mate? or do you just 'end up with one', by way of failing to evade their advances? when i was young it seemed like the former, but for my entire adult life the later has been the case for me.
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Really good relationships can come when your not actively looking.
I very much agree.
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How does that equate to being unsatisfied?
It wouldn't, by default, equate to an unsatisfactory Anything.
The way I read the post, it sounded very much like this: "I used to actively choose who I wanted to be with, now i'm at the mercy of getting into relationships with people whom I can't say 'no' to, who empower me with Their advances."
contrast the way I read that passage with the following:
*shrug* humans aren't generally very skilled lovers anyway.
and you can probably see how I came upon that interpretation, used in that context.
I'm also open to the idea that my interpretation may be off, but this is how it sounded when I read it. The infallibility of text-based communication being that certain cues like vocal intonation and gesture(s) are not included, which happens to make communication and achieving understanding regarding that communication less than perfect at times.
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Also, that statement kind of crosses into territory that isn't your business anyhow.
If i've offended Kath, or arrived at the wrong interpretation, my apologies. Though this wasn't my intent, it stands to reason- in "defense" of my interpretation (however correct or not)- this information was offered to a group/public forum.
In the same respect, if I were to tell you about my love life (or lack thereof) I would/could expect to have conversation opened about same or similar, no matter how seemingly intrusive, as *I* offered that information to the Forum of A DISCUSSION (and I think that's the key-component here, correct me if i'm wrong?)
THE BITCH IS BANNED. SHE WAS NEVER SATISFIED WITH 4-5 PARAGRAPHS IN ONE POST. HOW COULD SHE BE SATISFIED WITH SITTING ON SOMEONE'S FACE TO SHUT THEM UP?
Vociferor
03-13-2011, 10:42 PM
I remember her back in the day from OF. Only spoke to her briefly, found her very sensible; but I didn't know her extensively.
Ritual_Kiss
03-14-2011, 04:14 AM
THE BITCH IS BANNED. SHE WAS NEVER SATISFIED WITH 4-5 PARAGRAPHS IN ONE POST. HOW COULD SHE BE SATISFIED WITH SITTING ON SOMEONE'S FACE TO SHUT THEM UP?
What?
Ritual_Kiss
03-14-2011, 04:22 AM
You can have an open discussion in a group forum, and still get into someone elses business. I don't know if you offended kath or not. Whether I know that or not doesn't matter. I made an observation that it sounded really rude. And concidering that kath's account is closed, she's not really in a position to respond to it. So, why say it at all? So, on that note, when it's directed at someone who can't respond, is it really a discussion?
Anyhow, I disagree with you. Oh, no!
witchknot
03-14-2011, 09:06 AM
Also check this:
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/try-eye-trick-right.html
j00lz
I thought that said "Also check tits:" That would be a pretty obvious mating signal : )
Malakim
03-14-2011, 09:08 AM
To get back on Topic:
Did anybody here ever realize that women, as a reflex lick/moisten theire lips when the catch first sight of a mlae who they find attractive?
I found that to be a very(!) helpful sign in the past. It took me a while to pick it up clearly, but now I mostly know if they are just "licking" their lips anyway, or if it was a reflex. A reflex action looks different. It is a very short movement, hard to catch, but it is there.
:)
Oh, and just like the "eyetrick" above, you can also use this "reflex" to subcontiousely tell women around you that you like them (which in turn makes them interested).
What?
SHE WOULDN'T SHUT UP.
To get back on Topic:
Did anybody here ever realize that women, as a reflex lick/moisten theire lips when the catch first sight of a mlae who they find attractive?
I found that to be a very(!) helpful sign in the past. It took me a while to pick it up clearly, but now I mostly know if they are just "licking" their lips anyway, or if it was a reflex. A reflex action looks different. It is a very short movement, hard to catch, but it is there.
:)
Oh, and just like the "eyetrick" above, you can also use this "reflex" to subcontiousely tell women around you that you like them (which in turn makes them interested).
No I respectfully disagree, I don't do that. It gives you chapped lips and I have lipstick awareness. I have an entire set of reactions I've observed but they don't include lip licking. Maybe the women who live near you are genetically predisposed to lip licking? Do they have thin lips? if so there would be a lot less surface to damage in the licking.
katiafish
03-14-2011, 12:18 PM
I get very chapped lips too, so nope, never lips licking. Nor I ever play with my hair or any other stuff like that.. :)
Saxarba
03-14-2011, 12:19 PM
I play with my hair all the time
katiafish
03-14-2011, 12:20 PM
You are not a girl.. I think
Saxarba
03-14-2011, 12:29 PM
that is correct
Malakim
03-15-2011, 02:11 AM
Well, I have noticed this very brief moistening of the lips all over Europe. It was in Fact less in the US and Naomi is probably right, it might be due to a lot of Lipstick.
But it is not really "licking", it is a very short movement taking the lower lip a tiny bit into the mouth ... hard to describe actually. And I am not sure if that is consouse at all.
I find it very interesting to entertain the thought that there might be unmiversal mating signals as well as locally different signals. I did notice that flirting in the US works different ... but that might also be due to the fact that I was usually with Asian ppl. in an almost all Asian location.
Russia btw. was also much different, there they seem to be more tactile and open to touching.
Unfortunately I only started to notice all this when I was a married man already, and since I am a happy married man, I stay in a "observer" only position.
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