Daily Struggle with the Christian Egregore

[Amur]

Apparently I've been visited by Jesus quite lately. Actually the latest was that he took over this body applying pressure from the severe traumatization to control the body and emotions through the crown, which again was linked to some star-system wherever...

It's not the first time the Xtian egregore tries this kind of shit with me. A few days ago while I was camping, I thought about lying with my feet toward a big sturny tree which was there. I immediately got contact to the Earth-realms and to earth itself. Whereafter I started getting 'flashes' of 'unity' telling me that I should move that the tree didn't want me to be there. Very unfortunately I agreed to do this as I thought it really was the tree and wanted to agree to it's own growing lol. How fooled was I. It was nothing more than the XTIAN #"¤¤"&¤ egregore shouting it's shit again at me through so called 'unity'. 3 times before it shouted to me that I'm a failed prophet and now jesus fucking christ is coming from the crown as a spirit form trying to take over this body. Now what the hell is wrong with this universe in the first place?!?

Now they are threathening me a whole fucking lot, with whatever, from what astral fortress of crap. "You will regret this when the last day comes, you will really regret this, will you be along with the ones being condemned. You are going against Gods now. You are breaking a rule and so on.

And all the time I wish to be connected to Earth itself, they come down from the crown and put a shield around the root so that the connection is blocked. Now what the hell :D

Unfortunately I didn't get the jesus christ spirit teleported directly into Earth itself for Earth's own Judgement... Atleast my own opinion is that any God playing on Earth will FIRST abide by the planet's own rules. Even though this is just one planet of very many in this galaxy.

If anyone got suggestions on what to do they are very welcome. I'm being threathened to the teeth here by some very high authority. All the time I'm replying that it's Unity through all and everyones personality equally instead of having a savior or something. lol. Someone should read more Tao teh Ching.

[Amur]

Apparently I'm sitting in the midst of the Christian egregore. If you have got ANY suggestions on what to do with it (as it is linked to many many millions of people), it would be _VERY_ warming to hear opinions. Anything which will help the planet and the people and experiencers is very welcome!!!

Healing the planet was the best that came.

[motsie]

What techniques do you use to shield?

motsie

[m1thr0s]

I don't know if my methods would fit your needs Amur...that's always the problem with advising anybody. You have to realize I think that what you are dealing with has nothing to do with the real Christ...it's all Jesus, Inc. shit actually...in which case, you are free to hammer down all you like. I went through this whole period years ago where as a matter of retaining my personal sanity it became necessary for me to declare all-out war with so-called "Jesus". It was strictly a pollution issue...sunk so deep into my psychic tissue that that only solution was violent upheaval and lots and lots of fire. Went on for quite a spell...freaked out more than my share of neighbors/roommates etc... Finally won, but it wasn't easy...corpses strewn all over the galaxy, though mostly shredded beyond recognition...

Did it stop Jesus, Inc? No, not really, because it is constantly being refuelled at the level of millions of other peoples psyches...but Jesus doesn't f*ck with me anymore, doesn't want me for a rainbow and would rather we had nothing more to do with one another. We reached an understanding...he can keep his nazified crap to himself or I can dismantle his whole damn engine...simple as that. There is no "Jesus" where I am, nor in any universe of mine.

But as for Christ the avatar and mystic...turns out he's as curious about all this Abrahadabra shit as I am...go figure...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

But as for Christ the avatar and mystic...turns out he's as curious about all this Abrahadabra shit as I am...go figure...

m1thr0s

Funny that... It is SO important to make that distinction. I have a strong connection to that Avatar, so it ends up being a rather strange sensation sometimes, chit-chatting with the Satanists, but heck you go where the best Ideas are, amongst the people who have the clearest vision. I have a feeling that none of these lines of ideology matter a spit on the level of people who have the courage to look at themselves, and the will not to be assholes to others. It's a great irony that a man who showed unflinching courage in the face of persecution would be unfortunate enough 2000 years later to be represented by people who prey on fear and cowardice, and to whom 'courage' implies ferocious self-justifying acts of violence. Well have to see where all this goes...
-Ibisis-

[Anibis]

On a lighter note, HERE is the secret to Jesus's mystical power: YEAST. Yep, that's right...
Think about it. What is he made of? Bread and wine, right? What do these two substances have in common? That's right.... Yeast. What does yeast do? Well, it rises, doesn't it. An Jesus? Yep, you got it!

Here is Wisdom, let he who hath Understanding calculate the number of the Yeast, for it is the number of a man....

-:D
-Ib-

[Amur]

What techniques do you use to shield?

motsie

That's the thing really. By my initiation all shields and other mechanisms of defense got broken down to nothing. Been surfing there for 3 years with all various kinds of shit trying to kill me lol. Must be a real sight at the astral level with all these so called holes :D Another thing is that I declared myself as Satan 3 years ago with the initiation, along with letting every spirit come inside and so on. Been getting quite interesting relations :D

I don't know if my methods would fit your needs Amur...that's always the problem with advising anybody. You have to realize I think that what you are dealing with has nothing to do with the real Christ...it's all Jesus, Inc. shit actually...in which case, you are free to hammer down all you like. I went through this whole period years ago where as a matter of retaining my personal sanity it became necessary for me to declare all-out war with so-called "Jesus". It was strictly a pollution issue...sunk so deep into my psychic tissue that that only solution was violent upheaval and lots and lots of fire. Went on for quite a spell...freaked out more than my share of neighbors/roommates etc... Finally won, but it wasn't easy...corpses strewn all over the galaxy, though mostly shredded beyond recognition...

Kinda makes me laugh you know :D

Thanks, it really does help alot. The problem I encountered was when it was all pin-pointered energy to 1 pintpoint which was Christ himself. Now as I declared myself as Christ, this energy wanted to come into me and engulf me along with it, into whatever agenda it has. It engulfed the whole apartment and my parents whom I happen to have crashed in at for a while, noticed somekind of odd energy taking place. Started taking some Earth-quality signal from space who was definately giving up the war-flag. After that the Christ spirit descended into the body and tried everything to possess this ship. Saw even a dream where I was going to become christ and 'Die for everyones sins' (yes, fu 'sinners' lol), whereas the 'earth entities or forces' had an meeting regarding my destiny to becoming christ and dying for everyones sins. Well it's weird that I didn't see any Black People in the meeting rofl :D Wonder if there isn't an galactic law against this kind of absurd behavior.

Obviously it has nothing to do with real christ. Tried adding pointers to the real-earthed christ event but it wasn't accepted. This seems to be a one-way point ship with one pixel at Christ. As I see it Christ-syndrome is the same shit that has plagued the planet and made the whole planet crash into the abyss with alot of havoc caused. Wouldn't be surprised if there are other fuckers from the galaxy, with one lifetime here on earth, creating a religion to feed up their personal crap without giving a damn about the planet and it's own consciousness.

Not sure why I get this 'god signal' from the light coming from the sun. Don't trust the sun anymore either lol. Think it's being used as a controllative device for getting mankind under their oppression of 'God'. No wonder that at the Initiation Day I stared into the sun pissed off as a Black Hole ripping the scheme apart. I might be paranoid as hell, but I honestly know who I am and what my own feelings and connection is. I find it highly weird that many people are being followed by agencies bordering the astral and this world. Weird manifestations and 'connections' of people coming there just to mess what you were doing up... Starting to sound like a bad dream *grin*.

[m1thr0s]

I'm a big fan of psychic self-defense and I also believe you have an obligation to yourself and your role as a magus in this world to lay down a hard law and find ways to enforce it. Because I require very clean *airspace* in order to be able to glean the kinds of information I am seeking, I simply cannot afford a lot of self-serving bullshit with respect to inner space invasions.

The solution is to become really quite dangerous and there simply is no substitution for it. I have armed myself to the teeth and have required of ALL my tools that they have military obligations and applications in the first instance, owing to the conditions we find ourselves in at present. Therefor you should be aware that the TwinStar and other tools I release for public consumption have all been field tested and have all distinguished themselves as extremely potent weapons when the matter turns to psychic self-defense.

You still have to learn how to use those weapons and I don't much tutor along these lines but the weapons themselves are very strong and I myself would not much want the TwinStar bearing down on my ass were I found to be in serious violation of the natural rights of any star...

So there you have it. *Weapons are the Way* has always been my personal motto...if you can't defend yourself with it, it isn't worth shit to beans so far as I am concerned. The magus has both the perfect right and a perfect need to demand as much compliance to the needs of the Great Work as he/she can possibly exact. It is this work that establishes this authority...an authority outstripping the gods themselves should ever push come to shove in things.

As for God proper, this actually is not a problem, though the same rule would apply if it came to it...but it doesn't. God "the asshole" simply is not God and thus you are free to clean your space just as hard as you may need to do so...

The militaristic asana is not well suited to all temperaments and it requires a certain detachment to hold it with any style. I don't belabor these matters but the law is what it is and if things need to turn ugly I am there and I really don't give a flying shit how this may seem to others. Let them take up the work I have undertaken under constant fire from everywhere and see what they think about it then. It's all a matter of getting things done in as expeditious a manner as possible. Many real lives are on the line. Why should I take any crap from f*cking phantoms.

Nuke 'em all Amur. It's the only way to get clear.
Nuke 'em as many times as it takes until your look is sufficient to set them hard on their goddamn heels.
The Law of the Magus will be goddamn respected or there will be nothing left to contest it.
External space is a different matter and many complex variables apply but Inner Sanctum is where the Work goes down and this cannot be relegated to the whim of archetypal pollutions.

m1thr0s

[Seipiriz]

Advising comes at a high risk Amur...

Advising you about anything could be a tremendous mistake , as the way I see it any thing that works for me in every aspect of my philosophy could not function to you and even worse, it could do more damage...

I have learned to phsychically defend myself through raw practice. At first it was by using primitive symbolism in gestures or thoughts but this was quite difficult and costed much on energy and time. Eventually, I have learned to create a form of me, a vessel, that carries an energy sign saying : Property of Seipiriz trespassing attackers will be eliminated... To be more serious, what I mean is that my technique of positive energy shield simply repels intruders ...

Anyway, whatever you use as a defence remember to protect your mind cause thats all you've got...

[m1thr0s]

Anyway, whatever you use as a defence remember to protect your mind cause thats all you've got...exactly...and a little ruthlessness is a small price to pay to protect the work itself...the thing is not to become too enamored with your own degree of lethalness...just do and be whatever needs to be done and move on...it is only one half of the entire Dance of Shiva.

m1thr0s

[Amur]

The neat thing which has come from going without defenses is to see the response from various agencies. America thinks I'm Satan as that was who I was when I awakened lol. Now I was Christ looking at the information coming. Perhaps it's time to become myself really.

The way I see it is that when all gaps and holes are healed, one is strong as a fortress, and literally becomes a self-sustaining unit. Apparently God the Asshole is nothing but some magus sitting somewhere in his astral shed fortress waiting to become ripped apart from his throne :D Can't wait for the day that comes. I could imagine that the real God / Universe would be more in regards to the planet consciousness itself. Pretty all-encompassing and loving and caring towards it's own creatures. Atleast it has healed me to a very high degree and answered all my questions..


My defense is this: Traumatization from being abused, causing severe Schizophrenia :D Hehe.. Must be quite a neat universe to go through in the end. Anyway, now I atleast know what I'm up against and it will be a pleasure to tear it down.

[m1thr0s]

it actually has a lot more in common with an answering machine than an actual magus Amur...at least in my experience of the matter. And this is another reason why you don't want to become too enmeshed even in your struggle against it. Just exactly how much passion are you going to invest in a toaster? Dismantle the piece of shit and move on...

There are certain perks involved in allowing your center to be uncertain...I have seen this before...it can open up whole worlds of sensory phenomena not ordinarily available to the dullards who keep their noses to the grind. But in the end it's an entertainment package that is wasting valuable time and energy. If it can be corrected, it must be corrected and you don't have to lose everything you might have gained otherwise. You will just have to do a little rewiring so that you can have your cake and eat it too...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

Just exactly how much passion are you going to invest in a toaster? Dismantle the piece of shit and move on...
m1thr0s

Why don't you keep it around to make toast? That IS what it does well, after all...
-Ibisis-

[m1thr0s]

well, with any household appliance, mastering the on-off switch is the first order of business...after that you can do with it whatever you want to do...or at least whatever it is that it can do...

m1thr0s

[Amur]

it actually has a lot more in common with an answering machine than an actual magus Amur...at least in my experience of the matter. And this is another reason why you don't want to become too enmeshed even in your struggle against it. Just exactly how much passion are you going to invest in a toaster? Dismantle the piece of shit and move on...


Hey, I'm not becoming your 2nd Christ (even though it wanted me to) rofl :D Seriously this is all just part of the earthly research education and checking through various things and responses to how the world behaves when I start sending some of my own waves of great mischief and havoc (for those dullards who are attached to whatever he-he).

I'm just here to provide the experiencers with a context which is more accurate to the physical than to some hoppamoshah upstairs with a white-beard sitting on some cloud (which would be me of course *with a satanic grin* ) :D

Wonder where the peeps go when they have surrendered to the egregore.. Fascinating somehow..

Why don't you keep it around to make toast? That IS what it does well, after all...


You mean a french toast ? :D Must be from the other-side hehe..

[Copuldaemon]

I do not know if it's too late to join the conversation but this is in direct reply to Amur's heading post.
It's funny because when I was reading what you've wrote, some objective part of me was thinking about how a mundane outsider would have no idea what you was talking about and how all of this is beyond them which is pretty cool because when you think about it our knowledge even if it's just blah to us in the occult community, it is alot.
peep it, yes, the christian engregore is a very powerful type isn't it. There's many theories I have but I want to share two aspects: 1. If it's around you, it's because it has a strong connection with you from perhaps your faith at a younger age, someone who knows you like a family member who isn't too fond of your spiritual pursuits and prays heavily for you to "see the light", or a combination of all and then some. 2. From my experiences, these types come when you're most weak or unsure of your path because resistence would seem less at those times.

I won't suggest to you what you can do but I would say that in my case, things increase or decrease in repitition and so the more you do what you do and ignore and or just blaspheme the engregore profanatica style, it should stop bothering you. And I think that if the engregore is somehow sent by someone who disapprove of your path or what is that you do, by disrespecting the engregore, the person involved would start to get nasty or confrontational with you and they mightnot know why (directly atleast). I think that would be interesting.

[Amur]

Well... Came to the conclusion that perhaps my troubles began when I decided to destroy the whole universe lol. Perhaps a more peaceful alchemical look on things would yield something of a benefit. Still alot of research to do with things to see where they lead and what can be done about matters.

There´s certainly a lot of praying energy going on, so I hope that some of it could be directed directly towards the structure of society to help it in the changing process to something more efficient and better. Don´t see a point in all these energy gathering religions without the use of directing it directly towards the core of society structure itself. Looking forward to the next visit to church :)