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Krafkar
07-17-2009, 10:42 AM
Hail everyone

I have been studying runes for a short while, until know i am learning the Futhark and all the runic alphabet. I'm learning to read and write them. Also, i meditate with runes to comprenhend their energies, uses and find its proper galdr song.

During my research i found this interesting book of Rune magic and practices, there are a lot of spells on it.

Galdrabók (http://www.scribd.com/doc/15755566/Galdrabok)

I haven't done any spells on the book, I am not advanced in runes to do so. I will take my time to learn the runes properly , and leave the experimentation for later.

I wanted to ask what do you think about this book and its spells? It sounds really interesting to me.
(http://www.scribd.com/doc/15755566/Galdrabok)

Talkingfox
07-17-2009, 11:24 AM
Ok keep in mind that Stephen Flowers and Edred Thorsson are the same guy.

I've found his works to be of occasional brilliance with equal amounts of idiocy.

I mean the guy managed to get himself chucked out of an order that he started for xst sake.

Whilst I have no problem with his LHP leanings I DO have an issue with a thinly (or sometimes not so thinly!) veiled racist agenda that I see in his works.

Excellent Linguist, Rotten theologian, Decent scholar. IMO anything from Thorsson/Flowers is best gone over with a fine toothed comb and referenced with a huge amount of discretion.

Krafkar
07-17-2009, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the information Talkingfox.

I already know that Stephen Flowers and Edred Thorsson are the same guy, but thanks for saying. It is a very common mistake among rune starters.

I haven't been so deep involved in runes to recognize the woe and weal of Stephen Flowers, some said their works are good while others that they sucks. I have learned to discard information and research more on a certain topic i don't bait. Most of the time i check the references before reading the whole work. Since my problem with Odinism that everyone takes a poor referenced book written by mark Mirbello as their bible, I'm wise enough to understand what and what not should be taken seriously. I want to remark that, hehehe. I believe some of you think im actually doing the practices on the book. xD

So, regarding to this book.

How does the scales works here? The historical context is right, and the magic lore is wrong? Or viceversa. There is useful info there but it would take me a while to find it, it would be a great help to know which are the most common mistakes of Stephen Flowers.


Whilst I have no problem with his LHP leanings I DO have an issue with a thinly (or sometimes not so thinly!) veiled racist agenda that I see in his works.LPH leanings, you mean Left hand path? I don't have an idea of what it is, it was the result that my browser gave me.

I haven't read his works completely yet, i found a lot of his books a couple days ago on Scribd (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/www.scribd.com). But , Im wise enough to identify racist thoughts. I have noticed several supremacists thinking on several german authors i have read. I have read several heathen sites ,and books that have good information; but is clearly that they where written by a folkish. I dont like the Teutonic heathen way of thought.Im more familirazed with the Norse than with the Teutons.


Excellent Linguist, Rotten theologian, Decent scholar. IMO anything from Thorsson/Flowers is best gone over with a fine toothed comb and referenced with a huge amount of discretion.I friend told me that he writes good stuff, but that he disagree to take out the Gods away from our runic practices. He tells me that Stephen Flowers encourge the rune system more like a new age movement rather a heathen revival. That they works arent heathen at all, they are more for the general public. Good info, but not to take it seriously.

That you meant by rotten theologian?

So, what about the magic spells? Are they realiable?

I will aim to study them and comprenhend which where their principles and geometry, then i can be able to discard or even make my own. I will seek to find the original text where the work of Stephen Flowers "Galdrabok" base based from.

More important of all, i have learned that runes knowledge comes from selfstudy by meditation and practice. So, i dont trust to much what i read. I try to find a reference to start with and then create my own vision and comprenhension of the runes; so that way i can see how to work them according to my energies and Wyrd. I have been practicing Galdr, im starting to find my magic resonance through meditation and chants.So, this way i can understand and summon the power of the runes.

Talkingfox
07-17-2009, 02:48 PM
So, what about the magic spells? Are they realiable?



I don't trust anyones spells...let alone a spell from a racist fuck like Flowers.

I think that galdr working is worth the time to create your own kenning and runepoem.
Who can sing what's in your heart better than yourself?

As far as recreation/revival of 'true heathenism'...guess what? IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. We are not those people and it's no longer the 6th century. Times change, people change, society changes. Whilst understanding origins is very important, trying to turn back the clock is like trying to teach a pig to whistle. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

The crux of the matter is to find ways to apply the system that are actually pertinent to the here and now. The Nordic approach is nothing if not practical.

Krafkar
07-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Well said, there aren't better workings than your own magic.

I will seek to practice rune poetry, galdr and their casting. With the time i will create my own spells based on the patterns of the ancient writings. There is a base on binding runes, with time and experience i will find my own rune binding.

Indeed, this people can get annoying and even confuse yourself. They make you doubt about which it the proper or incorrect way to rune workings, I have learned that there are no right or wrong rune workings.I have been reading several rune books that often have contradictions. They are good references but not to be taken seriously, one must understand and feel the energies of the 9 worlds run in his/ her veins to understand their workings.

Talkingfox
07-17-2009, 09:54 PM
If you are interested in traditional Old Norse poetic structure look to this thread
(http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=1085)
Rats has laid it out very nicely.

Krafkar
07-18-2009, 04:42 AM
Thanks, i saw this post the first time i found the site. Indeed our squirrel friend is very wise at this topic. I will learn to write stuff like this one on my own, later that I learn the basics of runes. I will start by the start, leaving the more complex stuff for later.

Im studying the runes in cards i made. I humble their sounds meditating their meaning, symbol and energy flow. I try to comprehend their nature for further workings.

I plan to craft a wood rune set from a fruit tree after i finish to learn how to write in runes, their meaning and any basic stuff essential to start. By the way, thanks for helping me with this one. Stephen Flowers stuff might would made me waste precious time in rune study, still there is god info its kinda hard to understand.

Anyone can recommend me rune books reliable authors?

Talkingfox
07-18-2009, 10:28 AM
I like Freya Aswynn pretty well as a starting point.

Check the heathenism resources thread...there's a few listed there.

Krafkar
07-18-2009, 03:04 PM
Thanks, i have seen this far that Freya Aswynn is one of the best ones around. I would check the heathenism links.

Talkingfox
07-18-2009, 06:59 PM
There's a sticky in the Runes Section as well with more recommended stuff.

I really like Elliot and Pollington as far as non fluffy nuts and bolts writing.

AfterViewer
07-19-2009, 08:21 AM
:)Very Interesting! AV.

Krafkar
07-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Here is a nice guide for the Skeptics or none fans of Thorsson its works. It teaches you how bind runes and how they work, giving you the tool to create your own bind runes according to the patterns and bases of the Galdrabók


Understanding the Galdrabók Pt 1 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/6540646/Understanding-the-Galdrabok1)
Understanding the Galdrabók Pt 2 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/17684165/UnderstandingtheGaldrabok2)
Understanding the Galdrabók Pt 3 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/6540642/Understanding-the-Galdrabok3)