How to get rid of a destructive wight?

[Krafkar]

A friend of mine posted this on our heathen forums, i thought it would be a good idea to ask help here.

Here is his story:



I have a problem, in my mothers house there is an entity of some sort
that likes to go crazy and throw things at night. At first glance this would
show all the symptoms of an intelligent haunting....But my mother has lived
in that house for almost 17 years and its only begun in the last few months.
And got worse in the last two weeks.

There are cold spots, feelings of being watched, my horse hates walking by the place, and her dog goes crazy at a certain spot in the hall....This is the daytime...At night, things get thrown, doors slam, the stove gets turned on, faucets are turned on, my cell phone will go dead instantly, lights will flicker and the room temp alternates between extremely cold or hot

I have been warding myself with a sword, and the iron seems to keep it at a distance Mom stays with my grandfather at night now. But I still go up there to face it every night I would love to kill it and I've told it so the thing has drawn blood on me twice last night it bloodied my nose with a coffee mug and I got a minor cut across stomach with a shard of glass. The house is a wreck. Despite going head to head with this thing I'm getting nowhere.

What is it? Can it be killed? I'll admit at first this rattled the Hel out of me but as our little feud went on I made myself go up there and challenge it, now thats my nightly routine, basically to just taunt this thing and watch stuff fly across the room. One other thing, despite loving to break things it has never broken a window....Why?


My friend is heathen, and I believe he wants to kill the draugr (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ghosts.shtml)literally. I wanted to suggest him to use a Yew branch, there is a said on the folklore that it captures spirits. Or maybe the use of the Eihwaz rune. I have no idea of any method , but it seems to be the most possible solution.

Any suggestion might help, i would inform him.

[Ritual_Kiss]

I have no experience in this area. I've never been through this. However, if you're just looking for ideas I might have a suggestion.

Has it given any real indication of what it wants? Is there any way to appease it?

I've heard people suggest that it's possible to destroy the soul. I don't believe that's possible personally. But I do know it's possible to bewilder, confuse and confound. Bindings are common, it seems. I don't see any reason why it can't be tricked, or distracted and directed elsewhere.

[Talkingfox]

Look to the original use of the land and what it was before it was developed and what has changed recently in the household...sometimes it's something as small as the garden isn't getting planted anymore or a plant that was in a key area is getting neglected or is going to die.

We had problems at a place that we lived in that was on the edge of a Naval Base. The soil in the area was toxic as hell. I took a little patch out in front of our apartment, sweetened the soil , planted some things and tended them well. No more trouble after that. Plus I got really spectacular roses out of the deal.

Keep in mind that not all outward displays are malicious in nature. Sometimes it's the only way the Landvaettir can get the attention of people who've gone deaf from the sound of too many machines.

I've found that this sort of stuff is usually related to the wights of place and easily taken care of. This doesn't smell of draugr at all....not unless there's been someone recently buried under the fucking house.

[izi]

You should use cedar, (fresh) rub it on the walls and everywhere..

then burn it on a bonfire

then hang some more fresh boughs

white candles and then Tibetan Buddhist chants played full blast 24/7, nothing will get through crank that shit up

but me, I just use the twinstar now...

[AfterViewer]

It's not like you need the equivalent of an "Exorcist", yet, but if things do get progressively worse, let me know. Not all ghost entities (the unembodied) wish to, or "learn" to move material energy. This one is capable of causing harm. AV.

[m1thr0s]

Windows are feminine, corresponding to Hé in western Qabbalah, so this may be a clue to its identity, else its source. If it is respecting windows, it may be feminine. It is the *suddenness* of its appearance that does not sit right in your description. Things which manifest physically nearly always have their root in something physical...often some member of the household is actually channelling it, albeit unconsciously in most cases. That things have been completely calm for 17 years and have suddenly gone from 0 - 110 mph strikes me as incomplete. Something has occurred in the past few months that has precipitated this, though it may have been brewing beneath the surface for many years owing to the force it is displaying.

There are many things one can attempt to do...just standing there stupidly staring it down with thoughts of murder in your heart is more likely to exacerbate the situation than calm it. Something is already physically and psychically out of balance. Resorting to even more imbalance is a moronic approach to the problem.

I don't think this can be remedied from here because a big part of knowing how to deal with this sort of thing is rooted in identifying the cause just like any other diagnostic process. There are things you can do from doing readings to arranging channeling sessions to ritual observances and so on. If we cannot know what is causing it we are left to generic sorts of solutions...most of which will be aimed at cleansing the area and fortifying it, eg, drawing more energy into the circle in the hopes of creating a kind of portal - a *window* of opportunity, bringing with it a more positive options for all involved.

If you must resort to fisticuffs like some sort of crazed baboon, then by all means look to talismans and amulets instead of copping to some absurd bravado with your godamm weapon...it doesn't care, nor should it. This whole attitude is childish and wrong-headed. More will be accomplished playing at the healer than the goon. Did your arrogant friend never even once think of trying to understand or help it?

That it might *fear* iron is interesting but not particularly convincing or informative...it may simply not see it or else not be certain how to deal with it. It may also have some part to play in whatever is causing this disturbance, but every little clue is a big deal so this should be examined more closely. Simple talismans can be built from iron, this is no big hurdle. These can be placed at compass points and in general the entire house should be treated as though it were a magickal circle for now.

Mantras may help as Naomi indicates though I am not inclined to think that blasting them will make much difference unless it succumbs to the boredom. It may also piss it off...some things just have to be tried out piecemeal. What would be more ideal would be to know its cause, which I see no way for us to know from here. There are many options here...the problem is not a lack of options but a lack of information.

m1

[Krafkar]

I might mistake a draugr with the wight. I believe that my friend thought he could slay the creature, but isn't a draugr.A draugr is different than a wight. The draugr is more like a physical zombie , rather than an invisible ghost.

Im very glad with all your information, i will tell him about your suggestions. I will send him this this thread, he might explain better to understand what its happening. I also told him to make peace before war with the ghost, it can be easier to help him than slay it.

Here is the rest of our conversation

Me: Interesting, i have some ideas that might help with your problem.So, the house was suddenly haunted? I have heard of house being haunted before someone lives on there, but never that a house become haunted after 17 years.It might work to use a Yew branch, there is a said on the Norse folklore that it captures spirits and souls. Or maybe the use of the Eihwaz rune. I have no idea of any method , but it seems to be the most possible solution. I will research more in my spare time, i want to help with this one. You might read the Eddas as well, it might come something handy to calm the ghost or combat it.I'm starting to think that you must behave and try to understand the ghost, it is possible that it is a benevolent spirit that is angry with you because it have been neglected. You can try to make peace with it before starting to threat or even destroy him. You can leave him some offerings, aromatic candles, chant some poetry,music, change the decoration and wear white cloths.Show him good intentions, it might become more calm. For the poetry, i dont believe that the ghost might understand it, but they can feel our energies and emotions. Dont threat it, strong emotions as anger and fear make them more unstable and angry. If you cant make peace with the ghost, you can seek how to vanish it then.

An offering ritual for the desirs or land spirits might calm him down. Try to make peace before war, if the ghost doesnt calm himself you might try to vanish it with the yew branch.

By the way brother, do you live in the country side? I mean if your parents run on a farm. I'm starting to think that this spirit was a benevolent protective spirit from the land that have been there always.


Him: The house is in the countryside but the only use
that property sees is as a horse pasture, The house is not that old
only about 20 years old give or take.

Me: Do your house was heritage? Or it have been held in your family line? Is to strange that the house became haunted from suddenly, maybe the relation with the past owners where different and the ghost miss it.


Him: Before mom moved back in there were no incidents but I got a strange feeling
every time I went in. I did suspect a wight so I left offerings occasionally and didnt
think any more about it until this blew up.


My friend Oreynn:It sounds just from the nature of the activity more of a poltergeist type haunt rather than a standard intelligent haunting. Typically a poltergeist is usually connected with a young female around the age when they begin to hit puberty and will usually have a period of high activity initially and when it runs out of juice so to speak it seems to go away but can flare up later(weeks,months,years) have events like this ever happened before perhaps earlier in her life it very well could be attached to her and this could just be a flare up and your challenging it may be pissing it off http://oneharrier.freeforums.org/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif whether or not it can be killed i dont know, but one method of removing a "spirit" or "ghost" is to simply ask or command it to leave it may put up a fight but usually the activity will dissapate of you stand your ground and hold firm.

Also could you or have you tried to film this activity or attempt to get evps (electronic voice Phoenomenon) just take a digital voice recorder with you and a small video camera and try to catch the activity and ask questions and listen to the voice recorder for any voices you may not be able to hear with yor naked ear. hope this helps and if you catch anything i would be very interested in seeing/hearing it. there are many paranormal investigation groups out there you could contact one of the better ones is TAPS http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/ they have links to several others as well



HiM:I kept my sword with me because I've read iron
is a good ward against woe working wights.

Mom has been under alot of stress lately, and the women in our family
are spiritually gifted, my great grandmother had second sight, So the
Poltergeist theory makes sense.

I know nothing of them but are they unconsious spiritual energies
released by women?

I also admit I'm out of my depth, seeing things fly out of nowhere
and appliances turning themselves off and on while the lights flicker
coupled with the knowledge your only means of communication is
gone.....Its a bit bothersome... At first I veiwed it as a test from
holy ones, so I resolved to attempt to fight it. But when it gets
angry its all around me. I know brothers this may sound crazy
but more than once I've had the thought "I'm going to die here".
Skirnirs words have often encouraged me: "To go forward is better than weeping
the day of my death was fated ere I was born"

So far I've tried reasoning with it, offering battle, laughing at it, taunting it
throwing things back at it, ignoring it...that didnt last long. Nothing worked....
whatever else it might be it is a hardcore stone cold SOB!

[izi]

Mantras may help as Naomi indicates though I am not inclined to think that blasting them will make much difference unless it succumbs to the boredom. It may also piss it off...some things just have to be tried out piecemeal. What would be more ideal would be to know its cause, which I see no way for us to know from here. There are many options here...the problem is not a lack of options but a lack of information.

m1
It has worked in Tibet for several thousand years so I don't see why not if you use the proper ones...

"Invocation and offering to Mahakala" would work just fine...

[m1thr0s]

It has worked in Tibet for several thousand years so I don't see why not if you use the proper ones...it works great for Tibetans, or anyone who has effectively integrated them into their own practice. just parroting a bunch of mantrams may have no impact at all and might even make things worse, since you can't separate the mantrams from the individual or individuals employing them...

for anyone unaccustomed to mantra workings I would tend to not recommend it in an emergency situation, unless you can bring somebody into the equation who knows how to work them properly. I've seen this sort of thing backfire in pretty ugly ways.

I am not opposed to mantrams at all in general, but you might as well just recite the Lord's Prayer if you're just looking for a quick-fix...or whatever is closest to you that you can get behind with a certain amount of concentrated force.

I am assuming that in this instance we are dealing with someone who has no real training of any kind to begin with. The fact that this person thinks that brandishing a sword is going to do any good tells me this.

m1

[Filius Fortunae]

I would try a banishing ritual, personally. I don't have any experience with poltergeists but I would imagine that a banishing ritual of the pentagram or a star ruby ritual would suffice to ward off most spirits.

[Saxarba]

Haha! Thats funny...I tried that once...all it did was lend energy to it.

Sax

[m1thr0s]

Right now I'm leaning to hardcore cleansing rituals...for the house and grounds , almost ignoring the entity. I am suspicious that head-to-head confrontation is only fueling it and since the person who is confronting it has very little experience, he is an easy target if the entity itself does have experience, which would seem to be the case...

I could recommend things that are sure to work but not if the person employing them has no experience. The TwinStar, for instance, would make short work of this, but you have to know how to fire it up and make it hot and even angry if need be...so the really good tools are going to be useless here, and that's a problem.

If somebody with more experience cannot be brought into the situation then we are back to basics and the best thing for an inexperienced person to be focusing on is protecting himself and his environment...not slaying demonic dragons or whatever. So cleansing rituals are the way to go...or at least the only thing I can think might be effective.

Maybe it's just me but this whole thing smacks of some kind of initiation ritual. I am impressed with the fact that this individual feels compelled to stand this thing off. It may be the key to what is really going on here. It may be important for him to arrive at a solution to the problem and in doing this he is going to be taking certain steps he has not taken before. It feels like a passing of the wand or something...a right of passage of some kind. Sometimes these things are the HGA in disguise...a good disguise I'll grant you but you said he does have magick in his lineage, so it's not that big a stretch.

a wakeup call or something...

m1

[izi]

it works great for Tibetans, or anyone who has effectively integrated them into their own practice. just parroting a bunch of mantrams may have no impact at all and might even make things worse, since you can't separate the mantrams from the individual or individuals employing them...

for anyone unaccustomed to mantra workings I would tend to not recommend it in an emergency situation, unless you can bring somebody into the equation who knows how to work them properly. I've seen this sort of thing backfire in pretty ugly ways.

I am not opposed to mantrams at all in general, but you might as well just recite the Lord's Prayer if you're just looking for a quick-fix...or whatever is closest to you that you can get behind with a certain amount of concentrated force.

I am assuming that in this instance we are dealing with someone who has no real training of any kind to begin with. The fact that this person thinks that brandishing a sword is going to do any good tells me this.

m1

You fail to recognize that the Tibetan mantras are formulated not with regard to poetic device (as in the case of the Lord's prayer) but rather according to intonation, pitch, vibration and several importance Asian scientific factors that have been observed traditionally for as I said, thousands of years. In my experience they work, and a jaunt through the Sacred Solfeggio thread is enough to convince me even more towards a bias in favor of using them as they are proscribed....

[m1thr0s]

I don't *fail to recognize* shit Naomi...why do you always seem to need to talk down to people?

I know the power of these things perfectly well...I also know that a rank beginner can make a godamm mess of it.

If it were you or anyone with a little backgrounding I'd say sure, go for it...but in this immediate situation I don't think it's good advise.

It takes time and dedication to hone these kinds of tools.

m1

[izi]

I am sorry if you felt I was talking down to you but most of the time I am really just engaging the dialogue and not the person....as if cycling my own mind...but this isn't really the place to discuss my writing style...

With your addendum I percieve it clarifies your position to mean something else than your original argument which seemed to indicate you didn't see much value in chant at all, even comparing it to the same level as the Lord's prayer...

I'm not interested in arguing at all, actually

[m1thr0s]

I have said several times (in this topic) that chant is a vital magickal tool...my entire life's work is built upon utilizing it to utmost effect...light & sound is pretty much all there is at the level of matter...

but here we are specifically dealing with someone who confesses to being in way over his head with little to no magickal training worth a shit...there are a LOT of things that might resolve this issue almost instantly but NONE of them can very well be handed off to someone who has no idea what he is doing...

that's what is so frustrating about these kinds of appeals for help...it's a lot like facing a starving person so bad off that you don't dare give them any real food...

so it's down to very small sips of very weak soup just to pull them through...

m1

[Scientific Mystic]

From the perspective of one who is not a Heathen but does practice Gaelic hedge magic when occasion warrants...

First - yeah, challenging Whatever it is won't work - it'll just get worse. Like poking a dog with a sharp stick - just makes things worse if all you want is for the dog to leave. Gotta go with the protection, fortification, etc. in the absence of anything else.

Several of the banishing rituals work. Personally I'd recommend the Pentagram and a strong focus on "anything that doesn't want to be peaceful leaves now." There's a bazillion versions of what should be said and how. I'd suggest your friend finding one that is comfortable/comforting and using that.

Banishing: start in the middle of the house and project your will outward with the ritual. Sprinkle the outer walls with salt water from the inside (and lastly outside) - this is to keep Anything else from easily getting in.

One iron nail and one copper penny in each corner of the room or house (same reason - to protect later).

Folkway: Buffer with a bucket of salt water and a mirror when you do the ritual. Throw out the salt water when you're done - don't let any spill in the house, and you need to get it over the stoop in one toss. Don't look in the mirror - you need to get that up with tongs or a shovel and bury it deep to get the spirit to move on. That thing about not tossing out babies with bathwater has a basis in ritual... Bury the mirror somewhere where no one else is gonna dig it up.

Or use a jar full of rock salt. Do the banishing. Screw the lid on the jar real tight, then take it out where no one will find it and bury it deep. Again, don't spill it. Don't sweat on it or spit in it or pi$$ in it or anything else - you don't want anyone tangled up in it. You should exorcise the salt, but not everyone does that.

Maybe your friend could focus on his Diety rather than his sword. Using swords as a focus is difficult at best, because it's not the sword that does anything. And it would need to be a real sword (i.e. hand-forged, not machined; properly exorcised, censed, and consecrated) to accomplish what is desired here. Instead, draw strength from the Diety (or concept of the Diety, depending on how your friend feels about it).

Let us know more details if you have them.

Best regards,
SM

[AfterViewer]

The last words of RK's first response to the problem will work. Need to know country (location of problem) where house is located. I know Krafkar lives in Mexico but where does his Forum associate hail from. Also, Which side of the house faces the morning SUN? AV.

[Krafkar]

Thanks everyone for your help, my friend told me that the wight leaved.


My friend thank you for your help, but my problem was solved about an hour ago. The back door slammed and the entity left, it was very anti climatic. Thank you friends for all your help. http://oneharrier.freeforums.org/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
Still, i haven't got a response about what he did; things seems to be more normal than before at his house. I am sure that it haven't leaved, and its possible that the wight return. Still, my friend isn't idiotic to let his guard down.

I would inform you about any further paranormal activity. Still, we need to wait for any activity in the next days.

[m1thr0s]

strange...

well you've got a few ideas to work with should anything real ever come up I guess...

this one doesn't feel particularly real at this point.

m1

[s1m0n]

Try befriending the poor little fella next time...

Traditionally, every house is said to have its domovoi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domovoi). It does not do evil unless angered by a family’s poor keep of the household, profane language or neglect. The domovoi is seen as the home's guardian, and he sometimes helps with household chores and field work. Some even treat them as part of the family, albeit an unseen one, and leave them gifts like milk and biscuits in the kitchen overnight. To attract a Domovoi, go outside of your house wearing your best clothing and say aloud "Grandfather Dobrokhot, please come into my house and tend the flocks." To rid yourself of a rival Domovoi, beat your walls with a broom, shouting "Grandfather Domovoi, help me chase away this intruder." When moving, make an offering to the Domovoi and say "Domovoi! Domovoi! Don't stay here but come with our family!"

The favorite place for these spirits to live is either the threshold under the door or under the stove. The center of the house is also their domain. The Domovoi maintains peace and order, and rewards a well-maintained household. Peasants feed him nightly in return for protection of their house. When a new house was built, the Polish homeowner would attract one of the domovoi by placing a piece of bread down before the stove was put in, and the Russian one would coerce the old house's domovoi to move with the family by offering an old boot as a hiding place. People made sure they only kept animals the domovoi liked, as he would torment the ones he did not. Salted bread wrapped in a white cloth would appease this spirit, and putting clean white linen in his room was an invitation to eat a meal with the family. Hanging old boots in the yard was another way to cheer him.

The domovoi was also an oracle, as his behavior could foretell or forewarn about the future. He would pull hair to warn a woman of danger from an abusive man. He would moan and howl to warn of coming trouble. If he showed himself, it forewarned of death, and if he was weeping it was said to be a death in the family. If he was laughing, good times could be expected, and if he strummed a comb there would be a wedding in the future.

The domovoi does have a more malicious side. Although one's own domovoi could be considered an ally, the domovoi from a neighboring household brought no happiness. Russian folklore says that a domovoi could harass horses in the stable overnight, as well as steal the grain of a neighbour to feed his own horses. Still, domovie could befriend one another and were said to gather together for loud winter parties.

If a domovoi becomes unhappy, it plays nasty tricks on the members of the household. Those include moving and rattling small objects, breaking dishes, leaving muddy little footprints, causing the walls of a house to creak, banging on pots and moaning. If the family can determine the cause of their domovoi's discontent, they can rectify the situation and return things to normal. If not, the spirit's tricks may escalate in intensity, coming to more closely resemble those of a poltergeist (cf. tomte), or he may threaten to stifle people in their beds (this myth is likely to be based on sleep paralysis). More often than not, however, families live in harmony with the spirits, and no problems arise.

[m1thr0s]

that's pretty cool CCD...I had never heard of a domovoi!

as usual, hollywood has done a huge disservice to the realm of spirits and elementals with its Exorcist crapola and never-ending flood of spirit-hating flicks that portray everything in the unseen worlds as the enemy of humakind.

more often than not these things are benevolent, mostly benign, or at worst a little troublesome when ignored or upset in some way. the whole idea of getting them on your side is really the best way to go. If magick is not an integrative art, then it is a disintegrative one and one has to decide which is the best way to live...constantly at war with things that do not require going to war or enriched with all the curious little *frills* that nature has to offer.

m1

[Krafkar]

Nice, they are known as Nahual at Mexico.

I believe its the same process to call a Nahual and leave them a tribute. I would like to call one into my home, but he would become angry with my family. My house was build on a farmland of my grandfather, the farm was cleansed and the terrain was used to build houses. I have noticed that there aren't Nahual (earth spirits) at my home, i cant feel their presence in comparison when im near a wild area. I can feel them gazing, but there are none at my home.

My mother have tried to plant flowers for several years, and they always die.For more water, watering systems and fertilizers flowers don't grow.

Also, my uncles and my dad fought over my grandfather its heritage when he died.We are neighbor and no longer speak each other. Its a mess at my place, i don't think a Nahual would be happy here. I'm heathen, i believe in spirits and mysticism. My family doesn't not, this creature would feel himself ignored.

Is hard to work with mystic creatures, a entire dedication and compromise is needed. Otherwise, they could turn for causing harm. Some people can miss the experience and go on with their normal lives, they are to afraid to find forces that cant be understand with our "modern minds".

Magic and technology have the same results. But what is better, a benevolent earth spirit that help the land develop and prosper by itself. Or to buy a ton of equipment for watering systems and fertilizer to take care of the land.

Note: Is amazing how different cultures shares the same thoughts. A Domovik in Russia is similar to a Nahualt at Mexico. Although we got also Chaneques, they are little Imps that make pranks to people that walks in the woods. Making them get lost , fall several times or even they become hitted with bones, corn and rocks. I will seek to learn with more detail the mysticism of my place. Im more into the Norse lore, but the Mayan one have a lot of wisdom to share.

Which would be the most closer term for a Domovik in the Norse lore? I'm sure there was one, but i cant remember.

[Talkingfox]

It would be a house wight.

[Scientific Mystic]

Nice, they are known as Nahual at Mexico...

Is hard to work with mystic creatures, a entire dedication and compromise is needed. Otherwise, they could turn for causing harm...

Note: Is amazing how different cultures shares the same thoughts...

Different names for the same things, maybe?

Aqui, algunos de mis vecinos traeren curanderas para exorcizar ellas casas. Me abuelita fue a curandera regularmente.

(Excuse, usted, por favor. No hablo Espanol muy bueno.)

Which is to say, a lot of folks here call curandas to exorcise/cleanse their homes sometimes. My grandmother used to see a curanda regularly. Must be something to it - she was near 100 years when she passed.

If you wonder about your home, maybe a local curandera could help? They are not of the European Heathen way, but they know the local spirits. :)

Best,
SM

[Krafkar]

I don't think its a good idea, trust me.

My family are the most intolerant people against other cultures and practices that aren't Catholic. Once i contacted a man that practiced Reiki, he found me an interesting case for certain energy that i hold. So, he offered to help me for free. He told me that is strange to find people with my case to practice with, i offered him a meal as a pay. I could bring him home, it was a mess. My parents deny me the permission to have the therapy at my home.Even my mother knows a little of Reiki because a friend of her practice it, she didn't allowed me. It was a Hel of trouble,I don't wanted to know what would happen if i bring a shaman or healer.

Once my mother wanted to install a watering system at my orchard, i became angry with it. Several workers profaned my orchard while making measures and digging out to make the posts. I asked to retreat everything, it was unnecessary.

Why paying 500 dollars for something i can do? My mother think that I'm to busy with my studies to water the orchard, it takes me around 10 min to do it. I believe my parents got issues with social statues, they have a trauma with it. In the very deep im sure that my parents believe that watering and working out and orchard is the work of a peasant or the poor. That I cant do that hard work, that is better to hire a gardener. I was really pissed off when they asked me if I wanted to hire a gardener so i don't harm my hands. WTF!:eek:

I hate when the mess up my activities, I end discarding them. They are already profaned, nothing more is to be done. They don't have respect for my personal space, Im quite a lone wandered. A solitary person, i like it that way. I feel offended when someone wants to enter harsh and by force into my life, my parents doesn't understand that. They are to used to work with others, as lambs that need to be together because alone they are nothing. I'm self dependent , i can work better by myself.

I feel a incredible pity for my home its land, the worse i cant do anything for it.Any practice wouldn't be tolerated by my family, and i feel uncomfortable of hiding my heathenism. I want to leave my house the the soon I can. Its atmosphere is stressful, mainly for the bad energies of the eternal hate among my uncles, the lack of benevolent presence and my conflictual mother. I have discussion all days with her, my ideas to deep and hard to understand for her.I'm often called a misfit by my parents, they don't know yet im heathen. If its a Hel of a time with a small and insignificant discussion, i don't want to know what it would happen when they know I'm not Catholic. Its so stressful to be at my home, and more because i can feel that bad energies. With meditation and runic work i have learned to feel the Wyrd , the Olog and energies around.

There is nothing to do about my house spirit or the land ones, i cant act with free will without being called a misfit.

Thanks for your suggestion by the way, i plan to change things when i have my own home. Dont feel bad for me Im fine, dont worry. ; )

[Scientific Mystic]

I don't think its a good idea, trust me.

My family are the most intolerant people against other cultures and practices that aren't Catholic...

With meditation and runic work i have learned to feel the Wyrd , the Olog and energies around.

Thanks for your suggestion by the way, i plan to change things when i have my own home. Dont feel bad for me Im fine, dont worry. ; )

I hear you. It was the same for me many, many years ago.

I know you will do well, and I wish you the best of luck with your study of the Runes and meditation. Perseverance through courage!

Best regards,
SM

[Krafkar]

Thanks friend, I'm glad you don't see me as a crying baby. I'm doing my best to get over this obstacles. I know that I´m not the only one, is good to hear that I'm not alone.