How powerful/aware are you?

[Marcus_]

Here it comes...

I'm wondering how powerful each member of the forum is, and also, how aware they are.

Knowledge, extended perception and extended awareness are not raw power, but I'd like to talk about "power" in the wider sense of the word: Ability.

So, if anyone would like to share details about their personal level of progress, I'd be glad to hear it.

[m1thr0s]

:rofl: What kind of freaking circle-jerk would actually answer such a question Marcus?

Nice try though...maybe the thread will evolve into something anyway...for myself, I believe there are certain things that should simply not be revealed...

m1thr0s

[Marcus_]

:rofl: What kind of freaking circle-jerk would actually answer such a question Marcus?

Nice try though...maybe the thread will evolve into something anyway...for myself, I believe there are certain things that should simply not be revealed...

m1thr0s
:rofl: :laugh: :rofl:
Well, I do think some people here will like to tell about their accomplishments and such; whilst others retain their secrets.

[Radiant Star]

How long is a piece of string?

I don't think it is measurable as an isolate, only really in relation to who you are working with or against at any one time.

For example, in the last three months I have been said to be a fluff bunny and a very capable magickian. Can these both be true?

Yes, I suppose they can be.

If you are asking how I view myself, truthfully? as a beginner.

Bear in mind though, that we all develop different skills to a greater or lesser degree, so again, we are back to the length of the string.

[Anibis]

Flushing out the bravado hounds, huh... Very good. When I was on OF for a while some dude came in and started saying stuff like, "I am the expert on thelema" yadda yadda yadda, got all angry when we didn't step into line, started 'cursing people', and stuff, and it was all very pathetic. In general in the Changes, the place of power is in the 5th (penultimate) line, and not at the very top. The top line is often problematic. Go read the first two Hexagrams. See the difference between the fifth and the sixth place. This is why your question feels strange to ask...
-Ibisis-

[Anibis]

Oh, and in case you wanted my D&D stats:

Level 10 Wizard

Strength:10
Dex:15
Int:17
Wis:16
Char:16

THAC0: 12
AC:-3
HP:418/418

Proficiencies:
Ambidexterity
Sleight of Hand
Juggling
B.S.& Wisecracks...

Heh heh heh...
-Ibisis

I think I'll delete this soon...

[Marcus_]

How long is a piece of string?

I don't think it is measurable as an isolate, only really in relation to who you are working with or against at any one time.

For example, in the last three months I have been said to be a fluff bunny and a very capable magickian. Can these both be true?

Yes, I suppose they can be.

If you are asking how I view myself, truthfully? as a beginner.

Bear in mind though, that we all develop different skills to a greater or lesser degree, so again, we are back to the length of the string.
All that really matters is that you're progressing and still training, right?

Information technologies, and evolutions of consciousness -- are exponential. It's slowest at first, and during the far later years, actual progress speed can become much faster.

My main skill has to do with scanning, astral projection, and also, psionic constructs. I can find things on the astral plane - pretty fast. Ex: if some being came to me and tried to mess me up in a dream, eventually it may turn into a nightmare. Right before the "fight", I wake up, he retreats... But I can remote find, so I find him in a second, scan how powerful he was, descern what he wanted to do, and then -- I deal with him.

Long ago I healed a friend's spinal trama.
I could do better now, but am not very social about it, as many people tend to turn against the unknown, due to their ignorant paranoya.
^
See, those are just some examples.
I was wondering, about what specific powers/abilities/achievements persons may have, here.;)

Don't be shy.:p

[fr.novumorganum]

:rainbow:+:coffee: =:bowdown:

[m1thr0s]

To a very large extent "powers" are trivial. They are interesting but they don't actually denote one's degree of magickal progress. In most cases they are distractions. If you start from the assumption that every man and every woman is ultimately omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent then what really matters in life is not so much the aquisition of powers as the advancing of the human condition as a whole. Because humankind, as a whole, is in a whole lot of trouble and an obsession over the aquisition of power and powers has a big part to play in that dilemma.

I can do anything I want or need to do so long as it does not run contrary to my own standards...my own "Law" as it were. When that does occur...when I hit a wall of one kind or another, I am always aware of a certain underscoring explanation to it having to do with its irrelevance to my more important objectives.

I am aware of being on a certain mission in this life...of having something fairly specific to accomplish that will, if it succeeds, have the general effect of raising the energy/consciousness foundation of the whole world. This is not so unusual as you might think...this happens anytime anyone manages to introduce significant new knowledge into the global pool.

So powers are fine...but any power that someone might have, anyone might have and for all of these powers the condition of the world itself still remains in peril. Powers simply do not make a proper indicator of how much progress you have made in life itself.

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

All that really matters is that you're progressing and still training, right?

Not sure I would use the word training, more exploring and delighting in my path, but yes, I am moving forward and yes, new findings are exciting, therefore important to me.

I was wondering, about what specific powers/abilities/achievements persons may have, here.Don't be shy.:p

Well, thats difficult because I cannot prove them, but it would appear that I saved an animals life a few years back with magickal intent. I did the magick, a good result occurred, what was in the middle of that sandwich I have no idea. Not sure what that would be called exactly though.

I suppose my most obvious ability would be clairvoyance to some extent, or at least, that is what others have told me after me relaying certain events or conditions to them.

The latest I heard was "divinatory" skill, I have yet to fully grasp that and would need to ask the other mage what he meant exactly.

To be honest, I myself have not gone in for labelling actual powers or abilities so much as understanding what I did and if the result was because of what I did or not or merely a coincidence of some kind.
:rainbow:+:coffee: =:bowdown:
I hope thats tea in that cup Fr NO :D

Powers simply do not make a proper indicator of how much progress you have made in life itself.

m1thr0s

I agree with your post in its entirey, very eloquently put. I think this last sentence is most apt. It doesn't matter how many capabilities we might attain or develop, since we are on the material plain, then what we do with them here must be a prime consideration. I think that goes for all of our strengths, magickal or not.

[Marcus_]

To a very large extent "powers" are trivial. They are interesting but they don't actually denote one's degree of magickal progress. In most cases they are distractions.
That's an interesting way to put it...

If an athlete was making 'physical progress', would the amount of weight they could lift, and the speed at which they could run, be "In most causes" "a distraction"?

A distraction from what?

What kind of power are we talking about here? [There are many kinds, and as I clarified, I'd like to talk about 'ability' in general.]

If you start from the assumption that every man and every woman is ultimately omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent then what really matters in life is not so much the aquisition of powers as the advancing of the human condition as a whole. Because humankind, as a whole, is in a whole lot of trouble and an obsession over the aquisition of power and powers has a big part to play in that dilemma.
And who's fault is that?

I can do anything I want or need to do so long as it does not run contrary to my own standards...my own "Law" as it were.
That's a pretty big statement.
You've had a successful life in your later years?

I am aware of being on a certain mission in this life...of having something fairly specific to accomplish that will, if it succeeds, have the general effect of raising the energy/consciousness foundation of the whole world. This is not so unusual as you might think...this happens anytime anyone manages to introduce significant new knowledge into the global pool.
"Raising the energy/consciousness foundation of the whole world."

"This happens anytime anyone manages to introduce significant new knowledge into the global pool."

You're talking about improving humanity, through a form of mass education?

So powers are fine...but any power that someone might have, anyone might have and for all of these powers the condition of the world itself still remains in peril.
What kind of peril?

Powers simply do not make a proper indicator of how much progress you have made in life itself.
"Progress" is a polysemous, plastic term, anyways. [ex:] Both the destroyers and the healers of the world consider themselves to be making "progress". They impose their own Will, "good" or "bad", upon a tiny, tiny piece of the cosmos, and then call it "progress".

You're talking about a format of categorical imperative, as "progress"/"right"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative

Sorry, just more questions, for now.:confused:
I'm curious, you see.

[Marcus_]

Radiant Star (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/member.php?u=76)
All that really matters is that you're progressing and still training, right?
Not sure I would use the word training, more exploring and delighting in my path, but yes, I am moving forward and yes, new findings are exciting, therefore important to me.

Yeah, I consider that to be training.;)
Both work and play can be forms of training, as long as they are a sort of development.


I was wondering, about what specific powers/abilities/achievements persons may have, here.Don't be shy.:p
Well, thats difficult because I cannot prove them, but it would appear that I saved an animals life a few years back with magickal intent. I did the magick, a good result occurred, what was in the middle of that sandwich I have no idea. Not sure what that would be called exactly though.

I suppose my most obvious ability would be clairvoyance to some extent, or at least, that is what others have told me after me relaying certain events or conditions to them.

The latest I heard was "divinatory" skill, I have yet to fully grasp that and would need to ask the other mage what he meant exactly.

To be honest, I myself have not gone in for labelling actual powers or abilities so much as understanding what I did and if the result was because of what I did or not or merely a coincidence of some kind.
Hihihih.

Once you become [more]completely self-aware, you'll not really need much "proof" from others, as you'll have so much awareness and understanding of your own influance and knowledge, etc.

Remember this?:
I have often sat eating something and offered it to my dragon and he won't touch it, mind you, I suppose Marmite on toast (maybe Vegemite in other countries) might be pushing it a bit ; )
Did you create your immaterial dragon, or did you find him/her/it? Or was it inherent?

Is your dragon made of thought? Spirit? Astral material?

What can your dragon do? What is it best at? What does your dragon want most, in its future?

:)I'll listen if ya tell.:)

[Anibis]

That's an interesting way to put it...

If an athlete was making 'physical progress', would the amount of weight they could lift, and the speed at which they could run, be "In most causes" "a distraction"?


There is, I think a difference between aknowledging progress (which is just a measure of the growth of ones willed projects), and fetishizing it's bi-products. I think the warning is not so much related to one's actual state of affairs but rather that thinking about them in a quantified way can lead to bullshit and bravado which is just a simulation rather than a reality. To extend your analogy, try taking the person who, to be the 'best' starts taking Steroids, or who, in order to 'prove themselves' does something foolish which results in injury or death. Nobody who is in this game for the long run is going to sit around bragging about how big their wand is on the internet. Those who know don't say, those who say don't know.
-Ibisis-

[Marcus_]

But I was not talking about theatrics or showing-off.
I was just curious who'd give details about their current state of capability.

[Anibis]

Hm. It just occurred to me that the problem may be with the phrasing of the question itself, and what it presupposes. When you ask about the measurement of progress, that makes sense, but does not translate into 'how powerful or aware are you?' but rather something like, 'what abilities has your practice granted you?' Let's shift this from the quantitative/comparative to the qualitative/descriptive modes....
-Ibisis-

[Marcus_]

You've got mod powers. So, you can reword the title of my thread, if you want. Make it as clear as you like. ;)

But, I think I've clarified myself somewhat, as we talk more about this.

[Anibis]

Well, that's it, right? I think the threads title should stay as it is, and let anyone who follows the discussion see that it developed into something different as we came to understand one another's points. If the thread title gets changed to something less strong, then nobody will get why people had a strong reaction to it at first. It speaks of the alchemy of discussion that we can bring out gems from this, no?
-Ibisis-

[Radiant Star]

Once you become [more]completely self-aware, you'll not really need much "proof" from others, as you'll have so much awareness and understanding of your own influance and knowledge, etc.

I don't need proof from others, though I quite enjoy sharing experiences and clarifying the things that puzzle me.

Did you create your immaterial dragon, or did you find him/her/it? Or was it inherent? Is your dragon made of thought? Spirit? Astral material?
What can your dragon do? What is it best at? What does your dragon want most, in its future?

As many people know, my dragon was sent to me by my loved one, I was promised a present which I presumed to be a gift in the form of a book or perfume or something like that and in ritual one afternoon, a being appeared and another entity came along and explained that it was my present.

I have no idea what he is made of, as I have already said, labels mean little to me, so cloth, plastic or metal dragon or whatever is less important than my relationship with him. As for what he is good at, he can certainly tell me what sort of a day I will have, though mostly, I don't want to know and he will often pinpoint things I should know that may interrupt my plans; he loves water and magick and is good at showing me energy weak spots in my body. That is a general overview anyway. I have never asked him about his future though.

If you are interested in my stories about him, which are quite ordinary really, PM me and ask me for them.

Apart from that, I am quite an ordinary being really, nothing super special regarding powers or abilities, just making the most of what I have each day - life is short.

[Marcus_]

I think the post should stay as it is
Okay.

[Marcus_]

I don't need proof from others, though I quite enjoy sharing experiences and clarifying the things that puzzle me.
Exactly.


Did you create your immaterial dragon, or did you find him/her/it? Or was it inherent? Is your dragon made of thought? Spirit? Astral material?
What can your dragon do? What is it best at? What does your dragon want most, in its future?

As many people know, my dragon was sent to me by my loved one, I was promised a present which I presumed to be a gift in the form of a book or perfume or something like that and in ritual one afternoon, a being appeared and another entity came along and explained that it was my present.

I have no idea what he is made of, as I have already said, labels mean little to me, so cloth, plastic or metal dragon or whatever is less important than my relationship with him. As for what he is good at, he can certainly tell me what sort of a day I will have, though mostly, I don't want to know and he will often pinpoint things I should know that may interrupt my plans; he loves water and magick and is good at showing me energy weak spots in my body. That is a general overview anyway. I have never asked him about his future though.

If you are interested in my stories about him, which are quite ordinary really, PM me and ask me for them.

Apart from that, I am quite an ordinary being really, nothing super special regarding powers or abilities, just making the most of what I have each day - life is short.

He sounds cute. =)
I'll start with the PMs.

[m1thr0s]

This is too funny...I wish I had more time for it today but I don't...

I think what's really missing from your logic is the principle of Will, Marcus. It's ok to build on your *powers*, like an athlete, as you say but somewhere in all of this Fantasic Four scenario you're going to have to deal with Will...with what all these powers really add up to and what that really means. The powers in themselves don't really mean anything if they have no direction...if they aren't really going anywhere or doing anything useful.

*Mass Education?* Sure, if you like...the term sounds a little placid to me though. I think of it more in terms of *Ignition*...

I'm into fireworks...:cool:

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

Exactly.

He sounds cute. =)

He is... with me ;)

[Marcus_]

This is too funny...I wish I had more time for it today but I don't...Fun...:tsmile:

I think what's really missing from your logic is the principle of Will, Marcus. It's ok to build on your *powers*, like an athlete, as you say but somewhere in all of this Fantasic Four scenario you're going to have to deal with Will...with what all these powers really add up to and what that really means. The powers in themselves don't really mean anything if they have no direction...if they aren't really going anywhere or doing anything useful.

*Mass Education?* Sure, if you like...the term sounds a little placid to me though. I think of it more in terms of *Ignition*...

I'm into fireworks...:cool:

m1thr0s
Okay.

Would you agree with the phrase:
"It's not what you have, it's how you use it." - ?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/will

When I was making this thread, I wasn't thinking about the plethora of reason behind one's esoteric development, nor was I thinking about the eventual goals. I was just wondering about the ability in and of itself, free from all moral judgments.
*Good & Bad.
*Right & Wrong.
*Healthy & Unhealthy.
*Just & Unjust.
*Superior & Inferior.
etc.
^ - All of these, IMO, are moral...

[m1thr0s]

I was just wondering about the ability in and of itself, free from all moral judgments.Sure. Moral judgments suck. That's not what I am talking about though...I'm addressing efficiency, not ethics...

Maybe we should try taking some of these powers and breaking them down...see what good they really are and what the pitfalls are. What you would find (I think) is that all these powers have their downsides too...they don't always work out to a balanced human being. That might not matter if human beings were wind-up toys or something but they're not...

m1thr0s

[Marcus_]

Sure. Moral judgments suck. That's not what I am talking about though...I'm addressing efficiency, not ethics...

Maybe we should try taking some of these powers and breaking them down...see what good they really are and what the pitfalls are. What you would find (I think) is that all these powers have their downsides too...they don't always work out to a balanced human being. That might not matter if human beings were wind-up toys or something but they're not...

m1thr0s
*There are infinite kinds of power.
*There are infinite kinds of imbalance.
*There are infinite kinds of balance.

The people I've seen whom abused their powers, tended to be the sort who were to impulsive, egoic and they were not calm with their work.

[m1thr0s]

Like I said, it's ok to build on these powers but sometimes you will find that the simple power to think is the most amazing power of all...

What do you want to accomplish with these powers? Do you want to start your own country of Superheroes or something? Do you just want to get rich and famous? What's the point?

Let's just say...for argument's sake...that you wanted to do *good* with these powers...ok...so what is *good*? Do you want to heal people or solve their problems in some way? Is that good? Won't you just wind up with a bunch of people who depend upon your powers more than their own?

Maybe the good thing sucks...so what then? Do you just want to explore these powers to see how far they can go? In India there are purported to be all kinds of people who can do all kinds of amazing things with such powers. You know what most of them do for a living? Tricks. For money. Cool tricks but their powers haven't really done anything to make them successful people in any other respect.

There's just a whole lot more to it all Marcus. Everything in life has its logical limitations and if you amplify something on one end you almost always sacrifice something on the other. Real masters consolidate and only use what they must use and don't get too invested in shortcuts...

m1thr0s

[Marcus_]

Like I said, it's ok to build on these powers but sometimes you will find that the simple power to think is the most amazing power of all...
That's a good one.

Ability to think depends allot on perception, and experience. So, developing all sorts of mind-extension, sensory-extension, [Precognition, RemoteViewing, Empathy, Soulsearching, etc.] all will lead back into the improvement of consciousness.

Almost all capability is interconnected. Ex: adding a new child to the family will change the whole family.

What do you want to accomplish with these powers? Do you want to start your own country of Superheroes or something? Do you just want to get rich and famous? What's the point?
:rofl: In the name of Thor, I will avenge you!
Avengers, assemble!!!


Let's just say...for argument's sake...that you wanted to do *good* with these powers...ok...so what is *good*? Do you want to heal people or solve their problems in some way? Is that good? Won't you just wind up with a bunch of people who depend upon your powers more than their own?

Maybe the good thing sucks...so what then? Do you just want to explore these powers to see how far they can go? In India there are purported to be all kinds of people who can do all kinds of amazing things with such powers. You know what most of them do for a living? Tricks. For money. Cool tricks but their powers haven't really done anything to make them successful people in any other respect.
*Success* first requires desire, otherwise it will merely be seen as a statistic, as you know.

[Saddhis, is that the name?]
But, if I got to meet those guys from India, I would really like to learn from them.

Think about artists, too. Compare artists to the dudes mentioned in India. There are allot of beautiful things people can develop. Even if it's non-commercial, I think it's really valid. I also think that there's too much secularism in the social system already...

There's just a whole lot more to it all Marcus. Everything in life has its logical limitations and if you amplify something on one end you almost always sacrifice something on the other. Real masters consolidate and only use what they must use and don't get too invested in shortcuts...

m1thr0s
Yes but I just spent 10 years saving up money so that I could buy a dump-truck full of beany babies. In Jesus name, amen.~_~

[m1thr0s]

Think about artists, too. Compare artists to the dudes mentioned in India. There are allot of beautiful things people can develop. Even if it's non-commercial, I think it's really valid. I also think that there's too much secularism in the social system already...well that's an excellent point...you know, I wanted the Institute to be able to juggle all these different kinds of focuses...I don't really see any problem with exploring powers so long as it can be done intelligently...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

Mmmm tricks for a living. I actually dig that Idea (In the non-hooker sense). Those Fakirs have some wild stunts... Being a trickster is one way of 'covering' a life spent contemplating the mysteries. Alot of it is conjuring, though...
-Ibisis-

[m1thr0s]

yeah...viewed as performance art it all makes more sense...a lot of times these things have their value just letting people know what the possibilities are...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

You know, I always considered every circus trick I learned as having a secret ability that it conveys. The key is to find that out by exploring the skill. Unicycling really develops what could be called the inner gyro, in the Hara center, Juggling is sortof like mobile celtic knots, Contact Juggling develops fluidity of energy working, and so on... Yoga skills.
-Ibisis-

[Anibis]

...with the added bonus that people like to have you around, and that you eventually start getting paid to do it...
-Ibisis-

[Marcus_]

Some interesting reflections.

[m1thr0s]

There is probably something to be said for being able to perform various feats on cue...cameras rolling and all of that. I don't operate that way personally...I'm very into spontanaety and also secrecy with respect to such stuff...

But it's never a good idea to guage what is useful in general based solely on what works for you personally, so I am trying to keep an open mind to all of this...

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

Here it comes...

I'm wondering how powerful each member of the forum is, and also, how aware they are.

Knowledge, extended perception and extended awareness are not raw power, but I'd like to talk about "power" in the wider sense of the word: Ability.

So, if anyone would like to share details about their personal level of progress, I'd be glad to hear it.
Im also still quite new to this occult stuff and understand your desire to know "what powers one can attain". Its actually an interesting question-journalistically interesting, and surely fun to read about. Actually I have posted something about a yr ago that could interest you, check it out below. So called siddhis (powers) come and go- personally they never were important to me to begin with...that was probably partly due to the fact that I started relatively late in my life with (conscious) magical practice (at about 29yrs of age...the best age btw, check out Gautama ;))..I had been traveling partying drinking enjoying life but I also had been studying sciences and languages at uni and I never was content--I still thought: but there MUST be more, I felt I it, I intuitively knew it and that made me go "further" than sciences, and further than only pleasure seeking and craving material stuff or experiences etc (in "power" itself as in "wealth" or esp. "fame" (it really must be terrible to be famous!) and even less political influence I was never really interested in the first place)...and after I started reading and doing this stuff I had many cool experiences, I had much terrible ones too...but I also noticed how much I even had "practiced" already before I had ever heard of the occult (e.g. some part chaos magic-deconditioning, only I called it "practical philosophy" or daydreaming, or pondering hours over a text (a form of Western meditation, actually), or being an idiot intentionally, going against reason just forproving my freedom: (even in school I thought "Im expected in society to act in a certain way BUT what if I just dont do it? What if I act not like anybody else and thereby proof to myself (via my very life) that humans are not mere creatures of mechanical causality (action and reaction) WHAT IF? and then I filled the "what if" with reality...)

Anyway, I'll quote my old post- the old answers to it you can read in the cache (in the link below)-if you like. :)

Kuroyagi
02-01-2005, 06:36 PM


I had an awakening- it means: this morning I awoke and thought: wtf have I turned into?
since I started w the occult a yr and a half ago I havent done all those tear and blood sweating techniques and practices that are so often described (eg by Crowley or Bardon)- I had picked up some that just corresponded well w me- about 9months ago ;) I had started some easy physical exercises custom-self-designed around the 5tibetan rites and then I do one small ritual every day in which I draw out red earth energy and connect me to some above light while making myself a centre/pillar- and thats it: those are the things I do every day (apart from some introspection/meditation, lots of reading or some other stuff only irregularly when I have the fancy)-

now, this morning I awoke and in one instant could view myself from the perspective of one year ago: and I must say that I found myself somehow unbelievable and powerful, my physical frame has grown strong, my mental frame grown firm, my spiritual grown curious and open and not so easily scared. Instead of wondering about single events like I so often did during that period, I realized all I am capable of at once: I eg can bang my fist against a wall w full force and not hurt myself, can drink half a bottle of whisky without having a hangover ;) , pass by dogs and wild animals without being noticed by them (I circle my qi (or whatever its called) inside without having learnt it), dont have nightmares anymore, and though psychologists might disagree: I can be embarrassed or shy, still I cant be really afraid; I can tune in to waves that turn into the future and slightly twist them (I feel this between my stomach and solar plexus) etc, etc. can you believe that I didnt fully realize all this until that morning? now I knew what was meant by the phrase that says "those so called supernatural abilities often come as mere side effects", I know what "perseverance furthers" means: change one tiny thing in your life constantly: and a new world opens up (my first change a la caroll etal was to not take sugar in my coffee anymore btw), now and here I want to boast of these things for two reasons: for one I want to let them go- now that I have realized them I can (maybe) change some of my practices, and the other reason is that this board needs more open and honest exchange, cause the things I wrote are considered newbie stuff and so it could be that many are afraid of sharing similar experiences. But this is so wrong: I have done some of the canonical methods like invocation and sigils too in this time, and they surely contributed: but the important thing is: what for? all of those (even successful) magical operations are nothing compared to the realization I had that morning- this is very personally colored, but for me all gods and demons and philosophical systems could not match this one small second of past foresight (though they may have enabled it)

So my advice to all new to magic who are eyeing the chaos approach is: try out different things but do those exercises and techniques you connect with at first sight and somehow have an affection for- be they as small as they want- but do them constantly and without excuse (even when they start to annoy you extremely- and they will) -cause someday you wont even recognize them anymore, they will have been internalized and become part of you- and then, someday youll awaken :)http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:fNRxWcynq6AJ:www.occultforums.com/archive/index.php/index.php%3Ft-12354.html+kuroyagi+one+step+forward&hl=de&gl=at&ct=clnk&cd=1

[Marcus_]

Kuro, that's cool.I can tune in to waves that turn into the future and slightly twist them (I feel this between my stomach and solar plexus) etc,May I suggest, that you tune into your ultimate self/ultimate form.

Look far into the finest parts of the future, and try to align your present self with your ultimate self, so that you can guide your ship to the shore, though the fog of randomness.

I believe that all time-engineering should be used in a compounding fashion. Ex: alter the future, so that events lead to you becoming more adept at altering the future.;)

WellWishes+

[Phoenix]

Good evening, inquisitive minds,

Would you agree if i told you that the human being is actually a representation of it´s own mind!!?

The power you speak of, could it be perception?or maybe awareness to the litle details that life presents us?

Can a human being tap into a frequency of insight?

That my friends is true power, how many of you have foretold events from the simple fact that you lived throught a similar experience! :eek:

And one more thing, the power you speak of is it !!? what !!?pyromancy, geomancy, telechenices, superstreangth???

Or is actually related to your own self-awareness?
Please coment, i look forward for your answers.