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If you got any good books on the strategy of war and the psychology behind it please put em in this thread.
Of course there's
"The art of war" - Sun Tzu which is quite a classic
Go Rin No Sho - Miyamoto Musashi which is also a very nice book that I recommend
Would be nice to get some newer works of the art of warfare, especially interested in spiritual warfare....
"The Demon's Sermon on The Martial Arts" written by a tengu
"Hagakure" - anonymous
"Essence of Ninjutsu" Masaaki Hatsumi
"Understand? Good. Play!" - Masaaki Hatsumi
Masaaki Hatsumi... Got his 'The way of the ninjas'...
Essence is one of the best, get it or rent it if you can
If you got any good books on the strategy of war and the psychology behind it please put em in this thread
What a great coincidence!
I was thinking just now about strategic assault...
Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-guerrilla/) by Carlos Marighella
"Today, to be violent or a terrorist is a quality that ennobles any honorable person, because it is an act worthy of a revolutionary engaged in armed struggle against the shameful military dictatorship and its atrocities." - Carlos Marighella
:deveye:
What a great coincidence!
I was thinking just now about strategic assault...
Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-guerrilla/) by Carlos Marighella
:deveye:
Hehehe, me too, I mean I got a veeeeeery long patience, but when it runs out, well I hope Jesus saves them because I know I won't....
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 05:16 PM
Vom Kriege by Karl von Clausewitz (http://www.amazon.com/War-Carl-von-Clausewitz/dp/1604593563/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253837331&sr=1-1) a fundamental study in strategy (read zthis w a German accent).
U.S. Army Ranger Handbook SH 21-76 (http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Army-Ranger-Handbook-21-76/dp/9562915069/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253837095&sr=1-1)
The Little Black Book of Violence: What Every Young Man Needs to Know About Fighting (http://www.amazon.com/Little-Black-Book-Violence-Fighting/dp/1594391297/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253837041&sr=1-1)
I'm an extremely violent man, so trust me! ;)
I don't exactly believe in terrorism. In the Bujinkan for instance, you are not allowed membership if you behave like a criminal. Hatsumi also believes the way of the ninja is the way of love.
An enlightened man is not a violent one - violence is born of necessity and acts of terror are born out of desperation, certainly not love.
It is true that an enlightened men always allow Big Daddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government) to fuck him up the ass. Enlightened women is another story...
:deveye:
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 05:56 PM
I'm an enlightened man, that is why I put this sign ";)" at the end of my post...(and I am glad that I did so, else I'd have been a violent scoundrel...words are just sooo strong tools.)!! wow I have to be scared of them..but just for once: Naomi you know absolutely nothing of Japan and any Ninja shit so maybe shut up only for once?
this whole forum fucking sucks so much I cant bear it ahhhhh anymore.
I don't exactly believe in terrorism. In the Bujinkan for instance, you are not allowed membership if you behave like a criminal. Hatsumi also believes the way of the ninja is the way of love.
An enlightened man is not a violent one - violence is born of necessity and acts of terror are born out of desperation, certainly not love.
I think that Kuroyagi meant another form of violence, not a violence that he goes and knocks people over in the bar, and there is some truth to that ninjas are also EXTREMELY VIOLENT, in a way they are cold-blooded killers if they must, but they don't do it unless they have to and try to cause so little harm as possible.
I would be careful to put 'fantasies' into what enlightenment really is until you have reached it yourself. As those fantasies can bewilder you and lead you into a direction which isn't 'it'.
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 06:11 PM
I only ridiculed violence itself by positioning this marker (;)) there...of course the ppl here are frequently much too stupid to recognize any abstract language you know...they only react to violence and sex (which they find amusing)...I hate them for that, they are the last pettiest scum...thats actually what will be birthed by purely "technical" and "mathematical" studies...some half wits and primitives..."techniques" are always for lower intelligences...for monomaniac imbeciles like this forums propagators...I utterly hate this- they have no respect for any living thing you know only for "themselves" and for processes; this is a direction I will always contend cause its idiotism, it will be the end of any and all life...
I only ridiculed violence itself by positioning this marker (;)) there...of course the ppl here are frequently much too stupid to recognize any abstract language you know...they only react to violence and sex (which they find amusing)...I hate them for that, they are the last pettiest scum...thats actually what will be birthed by purely "technical" and "mathematical" studies...some half wits and primitives..."techniques" are always for lower intelligences...for monomaniac imbeciles like this forums propagators...I utterly hate this- they have no respect for any living thing you know only for "themselves" and for processes; this is a direction I will always contend cause its idiotism, it will be the end of any and all life...
Yes sir
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 06:24 PM
I could say some things now but I wont cause I know that youre very much affiliated to this site and I wont jepadize your position here (never), but what I would like to say is that youre simply full of shit- about Japan about Sumer about China or whatever....you actually have no clue about anything- thats the mark of the true occultist though (and as an artist youre completely excused) but the proclivity of this site to be ah so "real" and scientificial when its NOT when its only some other occultish shit is just intolerable...
What...the...hell..lol
Just cuz I won't play Seijuro with you doesn't mean I don't *like* you k
Science is probably the most important tool in the repertoire of humanity - all of occult study for the past ten thousand years WAS science.
Please can you take this shit to some other thread, this was a thread about the art of war and not about the art of flaming on a forum :rainbow:
Abrahadabra *is* something I take very seriously and I don't appreciate your lack of respect for what is going on with that.
It is intimately tied to science and to universal reality in ways people like joolz, MythMath and myself are only just beginning to comprehend.
I have explained this all before though....
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 06:40 PM
Anyway lets leave that shit...its pointless- cause you know I myself am a cretin, I am no actual scietnist but rather someone spat out from the system...you maybe can feel it I am none of those correct scientists myself..but what I am a bit frustrated with is the use of scietnific terms for....(have to chekc my pms :p)
*anyone* can be a scientist, k it isn't that hard. Simple, radical principles like this are what change the world. Not delusions of grandeur and emotional ravings.
Poetry is another matter...
Abrahadabra *is* something I take very seriously and I don't appreciate your lack of respect for what is going on with that.
It is intimately tied to science and to universal reality in ways people like joolz, MythMath and myself are only just beginning to comprehend.
I have explained this all before though....
Abrahadabra is perhaps something or then it is not, to be honest I haven't researched it yet and yes I'm a scientist to my core, but there's always a flaw :laugh:
Anyway talking about lack of respect, I find it disrespecting that you continue this on a thread that was originally meant to have links and names of books about warfare in general and would be nice to get these unnecessary posts....
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 06:52 PM
N (as I said we'll meet again yet): I am not gonna correct my last message. What I meant was you have no idea of the rogue scientists abroad cause you have been NO scientists at all- and only because it is too tedious for me to correct your Japanological mistakes doesn't mean that they are inexistent. The same pertains (maybe) I can only say to the Sumerian ones, you mentioned that they are no actual profs there anyway...yeah it all falls apart, or seems to, but I say NO: I say NO cause of the poetry of it, that's the only chance to save us and (and let me be clear here) if they say NOT, if the proprietors of e.g. this forum say: NO to my suggestion and still deem their half baked scientific ones a treat, then I'll say good ridance to them. Cause you know I have got my own studies set up fair and square anyway...and I COULD just reap some of the ppl here out of their present state but rfor most of those "technicians" - I say: no chance, NEVER!
Perhaps then you'd do us the service of searching for such open ended questions, Amur. There are many other threads and resources for this topic my friend.
Kuroyagi
09-24-2009, 07:00 PM
The real prob is that most here are so stupid that I have to talk to them when drunk...if Id be sober Id be much too succint and accurate and they'd actually get angry (at any time I'd post my honest opinion)...anyway thats the end of it for now cause Im simply too tired to do this favour out of a gesture of friendship and politeness, anymore....
K, I always appreciate my research errors being pointed out, in the future, rather than freaking out (apparently) in some random thread, and ruining our friendship for good, just point out the error. I am not opposed to truth.
Perhaps then you'd do us the service of searching for such open ended questions, Amur. There are many other threads and resources for this topic my friend.
Everything has it's time, and to do the wrong things at the wrong time only hinders progress and evolution, and got a loads of other things to do now and investigate....
Oh xst amur you're a riot
I can't get enough of you guys
m1thr0s
09-24-2009, 08:51 PM
...for monomaniac imbeciles like this forums propagators...I utterly hate this- they have no respect for any living thing you know only for "themselves" and for processes; this is a direction I will always contend cause its idiotism, it will be the end of any and all life...monomania
n obsessive preoccupation with one thing.
•derivatives: monomaniac n & adj | monomaniacal adj
wow...that's a really cool term! I think it should probably be spelled *monomaniacal imbeciles* though...I suppose it's a little hard for you to admit that *one thing* can, in certain instances, incorporate *all things*...it depends on the exact nature of the so-called *one thing*... something you have omitted to qualify or apparently even consider. The *imbecile* part isn't much worth reacting to...superficial emotionalism relying on a loaded rhetoric...
who exactly are these people btw? The whole sentence is a little dysfunctional...:confused:
This topic started with a theme folks...if you can't post in line with that theme then either start a new topic or refrain from dumping useless shit all over this one...
m1 (monomaniacal superconductor...) :cool:
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This topic started with a theme folks...if you can't post in line with that theme then either start a new topic or refrain from dumping useless shit all over this one...
m1 (monomaniacal superconductor...) :cool:
Starting to get used to this by now already, when I think about making an indexing thread of a list of books or something then all kinds of weird whackos come in and get drunk and piss all over the place and insult you in the process and go somewhere and fall asleep....
Spiritually the same thing really....
Taiji Bum
09-25-2009, 04:33 AM
Principles of War by Carl von Clausewitz
http://www.clausewitz.com/readings/Principles/index.htm
This guy is a genius and is required reading at West Point.
Saxarba
09-25-2009, 05:20 AM
Someone was just telling me about this guy the other day
Octarine Prince
09-25-2009, 07:10 AM
Currently listening to a Robert Greene (33 Strategies of War) audiobook. He relates military history examples of strategy mostly, with one or two political machinations for good measure, and applies them to current corporate maneuvering. I am a business consultant/strategist by education and profession, so this is really useful. Check it out.
Kuroyagi
09-28-2009, 12:07 AM
monomania
n obsessive preoccupation with one thing.
•derivatives: monomaniac n & adj | monomaniacal adj
wow...that's a really cool term! I think it should probably be spelled *monomaniacal imbeciles* though...Maybe not. According to the dictionary quote you gave, monomaniac is both a n(oun) and an adj(ective)...
I already mentioned von Clausewitz in my last (useful) post above...
http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=55853&postcount=7
m1thr0s
09-28-2009, 09:37 AM
yeah, I got that...like saying *he's got a psychotic look in his eyes*...etc...
not really the point though was it...
m1
Mmm
So Kuroyagi should we write that one off as the delicate and unstable European temperament?
Kuroyagi
09-28-2009, 01:06 PM
You are starting chat room convos again, Naomi and are OT...(I wont be "seduced" this time again)...;)
Saxarba
09-28-2009, 03:18 PM
@ Kuroyagi
Hey, Mahasattva, Magnificent being, listen!
The wheel of life can be articulated as the wheel of sexual desire and attachment. Life-force, lust for life and sex with a voracious appetite for pleasure, is its engine, and the whole gamut of emotion is spin-off. As we grow older our sexual habit patterns become set, our sexual preferences more explicit, and it becomes evident which emotion, which mind set on the wheel of sex-attachment, dominates us. We can get stuck in a single state for days, months or even years, and accordingly our sexual personalities approximate one of the archetypes that define us socially and sexually. We are the perpetual virgin or the victim, the sensualist, the contender, the sexual junky, the demon, the predator -- or the yogi of buddha love. These labels denote psychosexual types, sexual personality types. Each personality type is dominated by a particular nasty emotion that seeping into sex life forms a tyrannical psychosexual complex. These emotions, specifically, are anxiety, pride, lust, jealousy, anger, and fear.
Vajra Love (http://www.keithdowman.net/vajralove/passion.htm)
Kuroyagi
09-30-2009, 01:43 PM
huh.Ok then. Maybe to make it better understandable for you, you could view it as some process of transformation and spiritual physical mental etc restructuring I am going through right now, likest the one you maybe (?) experienced some years ago...unless you want to view me as some inexcusable drunkard which is equally correct. ;)
Anyway, I liked the "Essence of Ninjutsu" book, too..also Gozo Shioda's..
m1thr0s
09-30-2009, 03:47 PM
this whole superiority tonality is just plain unnecessary Kuroyagi...if you really had all the expertise you allude to it would be evident in the things you say and how you say them. Just bitching about how little others really know is a malcontented power trip...
most real *experts* are confident enough and capable enough to lead by their example. That's the only way you can really train anybody to think in the ways you deem properly informed. The rest is just a load of useless negativity. People generally rise to the occasion, given half a chance (and a good example).
m1
Kuroyagi
09-30-2009, 04:00 PM
To what -in your view- expertise did I allude in my last post, then? (cause that wasn't my intention at all). All I wanted was to give new life to this thread by alluding to other books about the martial arts...you on the other hand seem to have jumped on Naomi's chatty drama-train..
m1thr0s
09-30-2009, 04:08 PM
this topic is chock full of comments like this by you K:
The real prob is that most here are so stupid that I have to talk to them when drunk...if Id be sober Id be much too succint and accurate and they'd actually get angry
and you know what...I've finally got my belly full of your incessant whining...
goodbye and good riddens.
m1
Don't ask me to help you in the future K...your backstabbing two-faced shit is apalling, just another spoiled brat wasicu.
Oh shit you banned him
Lol...LOL...lol
m1thr0s
09-30-2009, 04:26 PM
yeah well...I'm sick to death of hearing all about what's wrong with this site by people who only ever bust their balls to make things worse...
this site has a focus and that focus will survive all these petty little-minded complainers...
if you don't like the bar...go find someplace else to get shit-faced pal.
some of us have other matters of interest going on here.
m1
Saxarba
09-30-2009, 04:57 PM
to tell you the truth I never liked him
yeah well...I'm sick to death of hearing all about what's wrong with this site by people who only ever bust their balls to make things worse...
this site has a focus and that focus will survive all these petty little-minded complainers...
if you don't like the bar...go find someplace else to get shit-faced pal.
some of us have other matters of interest going on here.
m1
It's a real pity that some dare to come in between of these important studies. It's like somekind of herd mentality that puts clogs into the gear just to fuck things up.
m1thr0s
09-30-2009, 07:03 PM
to tell you the truth I never liked himBaron von BooHoo never could learn the lesson of reinventing himself from nothing...it's not an easy thing but it's not anyone else's problem but his own. Since he is too godamm special to learn from other people's experience he will probably have to learn it all the hard way...the alone way...or not at all.
These days I am seriously into the *and turn not back for any* frame of mind. Many will not be able to keep up but there is no time to doddle on account of dead and dying wood...The stakes are simply way too high for that right now.
note: This recent Mercury retrograde has been an impressive asshole I must admit. I don't usually pay that much attention to things like that but this one has been a real doozy! I rather wish we had a few more hardcore astrologers around here...it's never been my strongest suit but I do acknowledge something going on there in the hands of the right people. Unfortunately, most astrologers are comic-strip nitwits. I always admired Robert Hand...there's a few bright ones out there...
m1
atlantis
11-02-2009, 09:27 AM
IMPERIVM by Vira Saturnio - Grimorium Imperialis or the Book of Eternal Ghibellinism
This is what I believe and what I have experienced. I have had, and have, the gift of living side by side with real warriors of the spirit, brothers who have been leaders and comrades, and I wish the same to the true seekers reading this inspiring pages by Vira Saturnio, old comrade in magic and action. This book is a journey through the manifestation of the Spiritual Empire through the ages, and a journey for those who sincerely long for the comprehension of war as a metaphysical concept, which ultimate goal is the transfiguration of the Self. The Path of the Wolf, was just the prologue to this milestone, a practical handbook of self-enlightenment for those adepts of self-strife who can read between the lines. The word grimoire in the title isn’t there by mere chance." (from the Preface, by Alberto Brandi, Ph.D.)
http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/imperivm/955367
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