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Okazaki Castle
11-08-2006, 08:14 PM
I am interested to here people's take on what came first. Not between anything, eg the chicken or the egg, but in an absolute sense. Before there was anything else, what was there? Some say that it is a question of timelessness, but I would contend that Creations, like physical universes, are created and then destroyed and then others created in thier place, sometimes using the matter or substance of the previous universes, sometimes not or only partially, and so on.

This Creation which Earth is in is a relatively new one by all accounts. What is yet to come I propose we leave to one side for here. What came before though is of interest to me.

It is not mere speculation which interests me. That is why I post this here on this most hardcore of boards. Tangible experiences of what went before, memories from previous lives, records perhaps. The results of investigations. What you discover in meditation or other consciousness-piercing or expanding states.

For myself the earliest discovered state of exstence I found was what I call the original creation which was basically composed of Thundergod-like beings. Don't have much details to go on there yet, but will investigate further in time. I recall incarnating out of the Sourcehead there in the third wave of beings to descend there. But perhaps see different things, perhaps there is a before, perhaps...?

So, if anyone has details, or even anything to go on, on this one, I'd be interested to hear them...

all the best all,
Oazaki.

fr.novumorganum
11-08-2006, 08:26 PM
i dunno....lately i've been dreaming that after all matter finally falls into all the black holes, the singularity of each explodes in a new big bang...:confused:

baenheh
11-08-2006, 08:29 PM
I imagine the multiverse was once just a holographic potential, which birthed of itself as a creative and manifesting force.
I also imagine that there are parts of the universe which I will call branches, that could possibly alter with new growth or deplete itself until growth again.
When that would occur an old universe 'becoming' a new universe,changes anything that was conscious and manifest in it , to also transform with it, but have no conscious recollection of the old universe.
This would probably explain why human beings seem to learn the same shit over again and again and only evolve in spurts not a continuous momentum.

m1thr0s
11-08-2006, 08:49 PM
I imagine the multiverse was once just a holographic potential, which birthed of itself as a creative and manifesting force.how strange...I can actually sort of see that in my mind's eye...huge project that went on and on for a very long time and then finally went to launch...like a massive website or something...

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
11-08-2006, 08:55 PM
i get the feeling that this is the beta

m1thr0s
11-08-2006, 08:57 PM
lol...yeah...buggie little bugger alright...

m1thr0s

Okazaki Castle
11-09-2006, 02:57 PM
Yeah, very poorly administrated this one, inefficient Laws, loopholes, all sorts of things like that...

hee hee hee

all the best,
Oazaki.

Naomi
05-29-2007, 07:50 PM
Well actually I've decided for a while the universe looks a lot like this, with each section being what is known as a universal cycle. Our current cycle is 13 billion years old, supposedly:
http://www.thetengu.com/abrahadabra/theuniversalmodel.jpg

MythMath
05-29-2007, 08:38 PM
Reminds me of an Escherian recursive spiral:
http://home.hia.no/~byrgeb/png/Escher2.png
image from: home.hia.no/~byrgeb/imageslinks.htm (http://home.hia.no/~byrgeb/imageslinks.htm)

Catalytic Subterfuge
05-29-2007, 09:46 PM
I contest that it was all primordial ooze! Take a close look at any atomic structure....magnify that exponentially, and you get the universe as we know it.