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izi
12-01-2009, 03:59 PM
The Argument from Intimidation


by Ayn Rand (July 1964)

From 'The Virtue of Selfishness' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virtue_of_Selfishness)


There is a certain type of argument which, in fact, is not an argument, but a means of forestalling debate and extorting an opponent's agreement with one's undiscussed notions. It is a method of bypassing logic by means of psychological pressure. Since it is particularly prevalent in today's culture and is going to grow more so in the next few months, one would do well to learn to identify it and be on guard against it.

This method bears a certain resemblance to the fallacy ad hominem, and comes from the same psychological root, but is different in essential meaning. The ad hominem fallacy consists of attempting to refute an argument by impeaching the character of its proponent. Example: "Candidate X is immoral, therefore his argument is false."

But the psychological pressure method consists of threatening to impeach an opponent's character by means of his argument, thus impeaching the argument without debate. Example: "Only the immoral can fail to see that Candidate X's argument is false."

In the first case, Candidate X's immorality (real or invented) is offered as proof of the falsehood of his argument. In the second case, the falsehood of his argument is asserted arbitrarily and offered as proof of his immorality.

In today's epistemological jungle, that second method is used more frequently than any other type of irrational argument. It should be classified as a logical fallacy and may be designated as "The Argument from Intimidation."

The essential characteristic of the Argument from Intimidation is its appeal to moral self-doubt and its reliance on the fear, guilt or ignorance of the victim. It is used in the form of an ultimatum demanding that the victim renounce a given idea without discussion, under threat of being considered morally unworthy. The pattern is always: "Only those who are evil (dishonest, heartless, insensitive, ignorant, etc.) can hold such an idea."

The classic example of the Argument from Intimidation is the story The Emperor's New Clothes.

In that story, some charlatans sell nonexistent garments to the Emperor by asserting that the garments' unusual beauty makes them invisible to those who are morally depraved at heart. Observe the psychological factors required to make this work: the charlatans rely on the Emperor's self-doubt; the Emperor does not question their assertion nor their moral authority; he surrenders at once, claiming that he does see the garment - thus denying the evidence of his own eyes and invalidating his own consciousness - rather than face a threat to his precarious self-esteem. His distance from reality may be gauged by the fact that he prefers to walk naked down the street, displaying his nonexistent garments to the people - rather than risk incurring the moral condemnation of two scoundrels. The people, prompted by the same psychological panic, try to surpass one another in loud exclamations on the splendor of his clothes - until a child cries out that the Emperor is naked.

This is the exact pattern of the working of the Argument from Intimidation, as it is being worked all around us today.

We have all heard it and are hearing it constantly:

"Only those who lack finer instincts can fail to accept the morality of altruism." – "Only the ignorant can fail to know that reason has been invalidated." – "Only black-hearted reactionaries can advocate capitalism." – "Only war-mongers can oppose the United Nations." – "Only the lunatic fringe can still believe in freedom." – "Only cowards can fail to see that life is a sewer." – "Only the superficial can seek beauty, happiness, achievement, values or heroes."

As an example of an entire field of activity based on nothing but the Argument from Intimidation, I give you modern art - where, in order to prove that they do possess the special insight possessed only by the mystic "elite," the populace are trying to surpass one another in loud exclamations on the splendor of some bare (but smudged) piece of canvas.

The Argument from Intimidation dominates today's discussions in two forms. In public speeches and print, it flourishes in the form of long, involved, elaborate structures of unintelligible verbiage, which convey nothing clearly except a moral threat. ("Only the primitive-minded can fail to realize that clarity is oversimplification.") But in private, day-to-day experience, it comes up wordlessly, between the lines, in the form of inarticulate sounds conveying unstated implications. It relies, not on what is said, but on how it is said - not on content, but on tone of voice.

The tone is usually one of scornful or belligerent incredulity. "Surely you are not an advocate of capitalism, are you?" And if this does not intimidate the prospective victim - who answers, properly: "I am," - the ensuing dialogue goes something like this: "Oh, you couldn't be! Not really!" "Really." "But everybody knows that capitalism is outdated!" "I don't." "Oh, come now!" "Since I don't know it, will you please tell me the reasons for thinking that capitalism is outdated?" "Oh, don't be ridiculous!" "Will you tell me the reasons?" "Well, really, if you don't know, I couldn't possibly tell you!"

All this is accompanied by raised eyebrows, wide-eyed stares, shrugs, grunts, snickers and the entire arsenal of nonverbal signals communicating ominous innuendoes and emotional vibrations of a single kind: disapproval.

If those vibrations fail, if such debaters are challenged, one finds that they have no arguments, no evidence, no proof, no reason, no ground to stand on - that their noisy aggressiveness serves to hide a vacuum - that the Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence.

The primordial archetype of that Argument is obvious (and so are the reasons of its appeal to the neo-mysticism of our age): "To those who understand, no explanation is necessary; to those who don't, none is possible."

The psychological source of that Argument is social metaphysics. [See: Nathanial Branden, "Social Metaphysics," The Objectivist Newsletter, November 1962.]

A social metaphysician is one who regards the consciousness of other men as superior to his own and to the facts of reality. It is to a social metaphysician that the moral appraisal of himself by others is a primary concern which supersedes truth, facts, reason, logic. The disapproval of others is so shatteringly terrifying to him that nothing can withstand its impact within his consciousness; thus he would deny the evidence of his own eyes and invalidate his own consciousness for the sake of any stray charlatan's moral sanction. It is only a social metaphysician who could conceive of such absurdity as hoping to win an intellectual argument by hinting: "But people won't like you!"

Strictly speaking, a social metaphysician does not conceive of his Argument in conscious terms: he finds it "instinctively" by introspection–since it represents his psycho-epistemological way of life. We have all met the exasperating type of person who does not listen to what one says, but to the emotional vibrations of one's voice, anxiously translating them into approval or disapproval, then answering accordingly. This is a kind of self-imposed Argument from Intimidation, to which a social metaphysician surrenders in most of his human encounters. And thus when he meets an adversary, when his premises are challenged, he resorts automatically to the weapon that terrifies him most: the withdrawal of a moral sanction.

Since that kind of terror is unknown to psychologically healthy men, they may be taken in by the Argument from Intimidation, precisely because of their innocence. Unable to understand that Argument's motive or to believe that it is merely a senseless bluff, they assume that its user has some sort of knowledge or reasons to back up his seemingly self-confident, belligerent assertions; they give him the benefit of the doubt - and are left in helplessly bewildered confusion. It is thus that the social metaphysicians can victimize the young, the innocent, the conscientious.

This is particularly prevalent in college classrooms. Many professors use the Argument from Intimidation to stifle independent thinking among the students, to evade questions they cannot answer, to discourage any critical analysis of their arbitrary assumptions or any departure from the intellectual status quo.

"Aristotle? My dear fellow—" (a weary sigh) "if you had read Professor Spiffkin's piece in—" (reverently) "the January 1912 issue of Intellect magazine, which—" (contemptuously) "you obviously haven't, you would know—" (airily) "that Aristotle has been refuted."

"Professor X?" (X standing for the name of a distinguished theorist of free-enterprise economics.) "Are you quoting Professor X? Oh no, not really!" - followed by a sarcastic chuckle intended to convey that Professor X had been thoroughly discredited. (By whom? Blank out.)

Such teachers are frequently assisted by the "liberal" goon squad of the classroom, who burst into laughter at appropriate moments.

In our political life, the Argument from Intimidation is the almost exclusive method of discussion. Predominantly, today's political debates consist of smears and apologies, or intimidation and appeasement. The first is usually (though not exclusively) practiced by the "liberals," the second by the "conservatives." The champions, in this respect, are the "liberal" Republicans who practice both: the first, toward their "conservative" fellow Republicans - the second, toward the Democrats.

All smears are Arguments from Intimidation: they consist of derogatory assertions without any evidence or proof, offered as a substitute for evidence or proof, aimed at the moral cowardice or unthinking credulity of the hearers.

The Argument from Intimidation is not new; it has been used in all ages and cultures, but seldom on so wide a scale as today. It is used more crudely in politics than in other fields of activity, but it is not confined to politics. It permeates our entire culture. It is a symptom of cultural bankruptcy.

How does one resist that Argument? There is only one weapon against it: moral certainty.

When one enters any intellectual battle, big or small, public or private, one cannot seek, desire or expect the enemy's sanction. Truth or falsehood must be one's sole concern and sole criterion of judgment - not anyone's approval or disapproval; and, above all, not the approval of those whose standards are the opposite of one's own.

Let me emphasize that the Argument from Intimidation does not consist of introducing moral judgment into intellectual issues, but of substituting moral judgment for intellectual argument. Moral evaluations are implicit in most intellectual issues; it is not merely permissible, but mandatory to pass moral judgment when and where appropriate; to suppress such judgment is an act of moral cowardice. But a moral judgment must always follow, not precede (or supersede), the reasons on which it is based.

When one gives reasons for one's verdict, one assumes responsibility for it and lays oneself open to objective judgment: if one's reasons are wrong or false, one suffers the consequences. But to condemn without giving reasons is an act of irresponsibility, a kind of moral "hit-and-run" driving, which is the essence of the Argument from Intimidation.

Observe that the men who use that Argument are the ones who dread a reasoned moral attack more than any other kind of battle – and when they encounter a morally confident adversary, they are loudest in protesting that "morality" should be kept out of intellectual discussions. But to discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it.

The Argument from Intimidation illustrates why it is important to be certain of one's premises and of one's moral ground. It illustrates the kind of intellectual pitfall that awaits those who venture forth without a full, clear, consistent set of convictions, wholly integrated all the way down to fundamentals—those who recklessly leap into battle, armed with nothing but a few random notions floating in a fog of the unknown, the unidentified, the undefined, the unproved, and supported by nothing but their feelings, hopes and fears. The Argument from Intimidation is their Nemesis. In moral and intellectual issues, it is not enough to be right: one has to know that one is right.

The most illustrious example of the proper answer to the Argument from Intimidation was given in American history by the man who, rejecting the enemy's moral standards and with full certainty of his own rectitude, said:

"If this be treason, make the most of it."

LordDagon
12-02-2009, 03:57 AM
The Argument from Intimidation



This is particularly prevalent in college classrooms. Many professors use the Argument from Intimidation to stifle independent thinking among the students, to evade questions they cannot answer, to discourage any critical analysis of their arbitrary assumptions or any departure from the intellectual status quo.




Tell me about it..this kind of "arguments" drive me crazy...
The problem is that one has to be very determined if he is to prove his point in the face of people who use this intimidation. most often than not, the intimidator, when challenged firmly will usually reject conversation by a hand gesture or a phrase like "yeah, right...have it your way" making it appear to the others that he has total knowledge of the subject-matter, and you really don't know what you're talking about.

One has to respond in a provocative manner, in which the ignorance of the "intimidator" has to be pointed out. If he does respond, he is usually taken care of easily, although he will continue to boast about how knowledgeable he is of the discussion and that you should inform yourself more..A good argumentation will usually leave him speechless or he will try to re-arrange his words in making it look that he partly agrees with your point of view but you just misunderstood him the first time. At least that's how it goes in my experience with these kind of people.

Of course, it depends on your interests in the issue...One doesn't have to enter discussions with all kinds of fools if he doesn't really have anything to gain by proving one's point...





This method bears a certain resemblance to the fallacy ad hominem,



Here I have to disagree, because "ad hominem" isn't necessary a fallacy.

For example: X says that tobacco is good for health, but X is general manager at a big tobacco company.
I say that X can't be trusted on his statement because he has interest in making it seem real...

Here ad hominem applies...

Dragon
12-02-2009, 10:43 AM
Ok. so this post raised a few questions in me. Because this was posted in Satanic and Protosatanic Philosophy, does this imply that the works (or some) of Ayn Rand are Satanic/Protosatanic in nature?

Saxarba
12-02-2009, 11:16 AM
too many people today emphasize "clarity" in communications today...but clarity is not the final word in communication

greater clarity results in a lessening of force and power, and vice versa...the balancing of opposite poles, a requirement if any greater Communion is to take place

when we speak, we not only transmit some knowledge of a thing, but also create that thing...by extension, that thing is always reality, thus we create reality as we speak

applying psychological pressure, and the projection of ones wishes upon another, is not only a tactic of skillful debating, but a condition of intelligent integration of ones agency and Will

atlantis
12-02-2009, 03:32 PM
One thing I never understood is working people who like people like Ayn Rand because they like egoism.
If they are egoists, why are they not some kind of libertarian socialists? I mean, if you want more money, and more free time: that´s the kind of practice that tries to get you exactly that, instead of just dreaming about it.

izi
12-02-2009, 04:31 PM
I am a libertarian and it's not about more money and more free time, of course it's not....I dont want more free time! By realizing action in inaction, one comes to a place of superior awareness. it's about making the world a better place....and not through fake mystical crap but through diversity and logic. Make the species stronger by supporting the intellectuals, free-thinkers and brilliant, creative minds, and you just naturally don't have as much of a struggle.

It's a matter of accelerated evolution, and I don't think people quite understand, humans arn't quite finished yet and there is naturally going to be alot of bloodshed as the successful form emerges. We are beginning to get a picture of what that is exactly but people have been jumping the gun at guessing for thousands of years of deeply ingrained racism. It's all a bit like a sports event I suppose. Socialism isn't the answer as it is, people are not meant to be patterned the same - it's only the rights that should be equal.

there, I managed to spit that one out....

Ritual_Kiss
12-02-2009, 05:06 PM
For example: X says that tobacco is good for health, but X is general manager at a big tobacco company.
I say that X can't be trusted on his statement because he has interest in making it seem real...

Here ad hominem applies...

I don't think that's an ad hominem.

the example you gave above is perfectly logical. You cited a reason for there to be distrust in that there may be a conflict in interest. If you were to completely dismiss the argument that smoking is healthy from the manager without acknowledging and trying to disprove his argument (assuming he made one) than it would be considered "poisoning the well."

It would be the difference between "I have a reason to disbelieve what you say, so please give me your argument" and "I am going to dismiss your argument since you obviously have a conflict of interest."

Ad hominem is a personal attack to the person making the argument that is generally irrelevant "What you said is nonsense because you fuck chickens."

atlantis
12-03-2009, 01:26 AM
Naomi:
there is quite a difference between libertarian socialism and stalinism.. in the spanish civil war, the franco-fascists and the soviet red army were both fighting the libertarian socialists for instance.

libertarian socialism is an individualistic form of socialism where collectivism is a technique - collectivism is a method of action togeter.

further, in libertarian socialism there is no such thing as antiintellectualism, it is highly interested in scientific progress.


please tell me off this is off-topic.

fr.novumorganum
01-06-2010, 09:53 AM
i have a feeling i'm happy i missed this discusion

Kath
03-24-2010, 05:03 AM
I really like Rand. I disagree with her often enough, but I really like how she thinks/writes. In this particular case, I agree with her completely.

and yes, I think one could consider Rand "proto-satanist".

fr.novumorganum
04-13-2010, 09:43 AM
i strongly dislike rand, which is why i'm hesitant to think of her as a proto-satanist....

izi
04-13-2010, 10:55 AM
Fascinating I'm sure, but informing us you don't like something really has no bearing on whether or not you can argue if she is this or that.

Satanists are generally not *likable* so your argument generally fails as it stands. I expect more than one-liners to carry on much of a discussion in a forum, although Hitman's bad example is probably encouraging sloppiness everywhere on the forum.

katiafish
04-14-2010, 02:55 AM
Oh, Naomi, this is just perfect, thank you, Have been dealing with ego's of others and my own, been so tired..

fr.novumorganum
04-14-2010, 09:18 AM
well since others said "i like rand" i didn't feel like i was lowering the level of discourse on the forum.

i'd be happy to argue against the political philosophy of Rand, which I think should be disentangled from libertarianism, for the health of libertarianism.

what about rand makes her a proto satanist? unfettered and unregualted markets? the belief in a so called free market? the elimination of any responsibility for the well being of others? an ego-centric philosophy which dishonestly removes the social field from analysis of personal achievement?

izi
04-14-2010, 03:22 PM
I don't think Rand is a proto-satanist, although she is very much a carrier of Satanic philosophical virtue pertaining to selfishness. She is right on many counts no one I believe suggested Rand was a libertarian.

But thanks for typing more than 12 words.

Kath
04-28-2010, 08:37 AM
well since others said "i like rand" i didn't feel like i was lowering the level of discourse on the forum.
no no, I quite get to stand together with you under the light naomi's criticism, and I agree with the criticism.
simplistic one-liner replies does no justice to the effort and insight put into creating this thread. sorry about that N
and to be fair, i started it, and fr.novumorganum was more replying to me than anything else. so if you prefer, I'll stand alone under the criticism. its a fair criticism.


i'd be happy to argue against the political philosophy of Rand, which I think should be disentangled from libertarianism, for the health of libertarianism.

what about rand makes her a proto satanist? unfettered and unregualted markets? the belief in a so called free market? the elimination of any responsibility for the well being of others? an ego-centric philosophy which dishonestly removes the social field from analysis of personal achievement?
I think your words "ego-centric philosophy which dishonestly removes the social field from analysis of personal achievement"... kinda hits dead center of where we would disagree.
Are the opinions of others quintessential to your sense of worth?
...if so, then you ought to have problems with LaVey, and Nietzsche for that matter as well.

If Nietzsche says you must break such inner chains in order to realize the uberman...
and if LaVey says that such concerns for social acceptability, propriety, or altruistic mores, is the true evil...
and Jung says that you can't even really know yourself if you're still looking inward through the eyes of others...
and Crowley says "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"...
then Rand is right at home in this company. no?

Anyway, to quote rand/naomi to make my last point to fr.novumorganum more clear :

The essential characteristic of the Argument from Intimidation is its appeal to moral self-doubt and its reliance on the fear, guilt or ignorance of the victim. It is used in the form of an ultimatum demanding that the victim renounce a given idea without discussion, under threat of being considered morally unworthy. The pattern is always: "Only those who are evil (dishonest, heartless, insensitive, ignorant, etc.) can hold such an idea."
Doesn't your statement about Rand and her philosophies, in and of itself gently tease the borders of an "Argument from Intimidation"?
or have I underestimated you, and that is intentional?

anyway, switching gears...

I don't think Rand is a proto-satanist, although she is very much a carrier of Satanic philosophical virtue pertaining to selfishness.
then we disagree based on semantics. to my thinking, someone who is 'a carrier of satanic philosophical virtue', who's philosophical writings were making a big splash in the same time and culture where LaVey was formulating his ideas ...could be called a 'proto-satanist'. I think it really just boils down to how we define "proto satanist".

izi
09-19-2010, 09:21 PM
I came across this little ditty which amused me. Since I am sort of a Libertarian - (they don't classify Abrahadabrian - yet) I found it shocking and somehow delightful that Ayn Rand almost stoops to The Argument from Intimidation very briefly at the end of this interview about Libertarianism. She's absolutely right about Libertarians loving her ideas....but I'm afraid she'll just have to accept she's one brick in the road from avoiding both Fascism and Communism's descent....Objectivism by itself is nothing without inherent wisdom and perfect intelligence to wield it.


http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_campus_libertarians


AR: My answer should be, ?I haven?t.? There?s nothing to hear. I have been maintaining in everything I have said and written, that the trouble in the world today is philosophical; that only the right philosophy can save us. Now here is a party that plagiarizes some of my ideas, mixes it with the exact opposite?with religionists, anarchists, and just about every intellectual misfit and scum they can find?and they call themselves Libertarians, and run for office. I dislike Reagan and Carter; I?m not too enthusiastic about the other candidates. But the worst of them are giants compared to anybody who would attempt something as un-philosophical, low, and pragmatic as the Libertarian Party. It is the last insult to ideas and philosophical consistency.
Q: Do you think Libertarians communicate the ideas of freedom and capitalism effectively? [Q&A following LP?s ?Objective Communication,? Lecture 1, 1980]
AR: I don?t think plagiarists are effective. I?ve read nothing by a Libertarian (when I read them, in the early years) that wasn?t my ideas badly mishandled?i.e., had the teeth pulled out of them?with no credit given. I didn?t know whether I should be glad that no credit was given, or disgusted. I felt both. They are perhaps the worst political group today, because they can do the most harm to capitalism, by making it disreputable.
Q: Why don?t you approve of the Libertarians, thousands of whom are loyal readers of your works? [FHF: ?The Age of Mediocrity,? 1981]
AR: Because Libertarians are a monstrous, disgusting bunch of people: they plagiarize my ideas when that fits their purpose, and they denounce me in a more vicious manner than any communist publication, when that fits their purpose. They are lower than any pragmatists, and what they hold against Objectivism is morality. They?d like to have an amoral political program.
Q: The Libertarians are providing intermediate steps toward your goals. Why don?t you support them? [Ibid., 1981]
AR: Please don?t tell me they?re pursuing my goals. I have not asked for, nor do I accept, the help of intellectual cranks. I want philosophically educated people: those who understand ideas, care about ideas, and spread the right ideas. That?s how my philosophy will spread, just as philosophy has throughout all history: by means of people who understand and teach it to others. Further, it should be clear that I do not endorse the filthy slogan, ?The end justifies the means.? That was originated by the Jesuits, and accepted enthusiastically by Communists and Nazis. The end does not justify the means; you cannot achieve anything good by evil means. Finally, the Libertarians aren?t worthy of being the means to any end, let alone the end of spreading Objectivism.
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m1thr0s
09-19-2010, 11:29 PM
AR: ...I have been maintaining in everything I have said and written, that the trouble in the world today is philosophical; that only the right philosophy can save us.I'm not that familiar with Ayn Rand's work - to the surprise of some - but I do agree with this assertion. The problem is a great deal more difficult than she seems to understand, considering how hurt and dismayed she seems to be by the so-called Libertarian Party's bullshit. There should actually be nothing at all surprising in this - she is simply not properly attuned to the time of day - the time of Man, better stated. The time for words is largely past...people have become eerily adept at using words for the foulest possible objectives. This *new philosophy* will have to cut right through the superficial nature of words themselves and that is fundamentally a magickal imperative...it is the province of magick to correct that particular wrong...to cure that particular disease. Even so-called *magick* is largely incapable to the task itself since magick is also so fundamentally polluted as to render it null & void but it is nevertheless capable of igniting something else - a *magickal child* as it were. Enter Abrahadabra...though they will not believe it at the beginning this word is destined to reconstruct the very foundations of consciousness in this world. This *new philosophy* will not be a philosophy of words so much as a philosophy of power - of personal power on a universal scale - of what it is and what it can and will amount to. The issue now is power. It always was, in fact. If you don't think so...you're simply dead wrong. She is dead wrong as are so many others, but this plays to a decisive advantage if you understand it for what it is...what must come next will come *from no expected quarter* just as it has always been prophesied in many diverse languages. How could *they* have known this? Some things are really much more academic than most people seem willing to admit. The problem has always been more one of accepting the data at hand, we might say *believing* in the inevitable itself...and thereby moving in the direction most logically implicated...despite all outward appearances. As with everything else, we will have to *prove* this premise to be certain of it, but the way itself is actually perfectly unambiguous.

m1