Following Nuhad around?

[feranaja]

I'm not new here, but it's been eons since I posted, so just a hello to those of you who may remember me...oazaki, it's lovely to speak with you again, and Rays too of course. Let me reiterate - this forum is gorgeous visually and looks like it's a very intelligent and evolved place to discuss, learn and make friends.

Nuhad has always led me into some truly unique adventures.

feranaja

[Okazaki Castle]

oazaki, it's lovely to speak with you again.

Welcome again from me Lady F, truly it is a pleasure to speak with you again. Did you know that you are the only person I know in this lifetime who remembers their Temple of Venus time in detail - and so still lives it's precepts and wisdom in this life also? That was the best times of my lives, plus Venus hereslf is the wisest and most beautiful of Goddesses, and also the oldest and most powerful (save perhaps Zeus) predating all the rest of the Olympians, having been born from the castration of Ouranos, mythologically speaking...

I was considering starting a thread sometime on the Temple of Venus Mysteries, such as why they rule Victory in War, the nature of charm, the precepts of seduction and manipulation, and so on. It would be fun if you choose to contribute your widom and experience there also. It could be just like old days in many ways... :yes: :D

Well,t he last three years have been hard, so might I ask how life is treating you now and if the place you have arrived at is not stronger, richer and... as something of a surprise... containing more power and potential than seemed possible before? Certainly I am strongly pleased to see that you are now taking the pursuit of physical immortality seriously, and desiring it (we always get what we desire in Temple of Venus, it's very good like that), and working towards it. I have some interetsing structures and systems in place there, for use by all who I grant access to, which might interest and prove useful in your work/researches there. Of course, do not think that my offer is entirely selfless there, for it is, but also not, and so on, and so forth, for thinking is an unhealthy practice I contend, best used as a weapon against non-Temple personnel... Just playing, jogging areas of memory perhaps, seeing what you remember about those days and times, perhaps prompting conversation or reminiscence? After all, Temple of Venus is always underestimated and that is perhaps the hardest aspect of it for the Priests and Priestesses of that corps to deal with - primarily perhaps because we all have fairly large egos, impressive, often baroque, Works of Art painted lareg on broad canvas, and like to be appreciated for our consummate skills and capacities... yet the normals always underestaimate us until the Ages of Peace (and relaxation and fun and so on) come, and so we are free to lots...


Let me reiterate - this forum is gorgeous visually and looks like it's a very intelligent and evolved place to discuss, learn and make friends.



Yes, that is m1thr0s at work again. He also makes us all more intelligenet with his mutations, a very splendid gift which we all appreciate much. One good gift deserves another, so it's a queston of what can be found to compenstae his hard work, sacrifice and brilliance. Good gift ideas are another Temple specialty, incidentally the rest of you reading this. In case anybody feels inclinations towards the Way of Temple...

And on a personal level Lady F? How are things and how are you? Physically, and in terms of your body, does the youhting seem to have taken hold and would that be an area of research you would be interested in discussing/contributing to?

More also, but let us leave some for later, after all...

all the best and many warm regards,
Oazaki / Seb.

[Kain]

Welcome feranaja, good to see you here!

Kain

[Radiant Star]

Hello feranaja

Its been aeons since anyone has called me Rays, it feels like the old days :laugh:

Rays

[fr.novumorganum]

well hello, and welcome!

[feranaja]

Hello feranaja

Its been aeons since anyone has called me Rays, it feels like the old days :laugh:

Rays

Wouldn't that be nice? :)

Thank you for reminding me I'm a member here - it's been too long.
fera

[feranaja]

Thank you Kain and Fratr N, it's good to see both of you as well. Hope you have been well and up teo all sorts of adventures...

fera

[feranaja]

Welcome again from me Lady F, truly it is a pleasure to speak with you again. Did you know that you are the only person I know in this lifetime who remembers their Temple of Venus time in detail - and so still lives it's precepts and wisdom in this life also? That was the best times of my lives, plus Venus hereslf is the wisest and most beautiful of Goddesses, and also the oldest and most powerful (save perhaps Zeus) predating all the rest of the Olympians, having been born from the castration of Ouranos, mythologically speaking...

Venus is far darker, more powerful, and more terrifying than those who mock and diminish Her would believe. It's also nice for me to speak with someone who understands this. The follower of Venus has been portrayed as lightweight, hedonistic, even shallow, but in many ways I believethis Way is possibly the most difficult of all. I do appreciate having a friend who knows what all of this entails. It's not about having great erotic adventures and looking pretty, any one can enjoy those things and it doesn't make them a Priest of Venus. Any Path, when walked fully, will take us into the depths of terror, and we had better be prepared.

I was considering starting a thread sometime on the Temple of Venus Mysteries, such as why they rule Victory in War, the nature of charm, the precepts of seduction and manipulation, and so on. It would be fun if you choose to contribute your widom and experience there also. It could be just like old days in many ways... :yes: :D

I'll contribute if it seems appropriate. And you are the second person today to mention the old days. Yes - they were fun and in some ways, deeply special.

And, it seems, impossible to re-create....

Well,t he last three years have been hard, so might I ask how life is treating you now and if the place you have arrived at is not stronger, richer and... as something of a surprise... containing more power and potential than seemed possible before?

Much more power and potential. I just wish it didn't have to be as painful as well. But when one loves greatly one suffers greatly - another aspect of the Path. The dark face of Venus is a place of unspeakable sorrow.

And yourself?




- Certainly I am strongly pleased to see that you are now taking the pursuit of physical immortality seriously, and desiring it (we always get what we desire in Temple of Venus, it's very good like that), and working towards it. I have some interetsing structures and systems in place there, for use by all who I grant access to, which might interest and prove useful in your work/researches there. Of course, do not think that my offer is entirely selfless there, for it is, but also not, and so on, and so forth, for thinking is an unhealthy practice I contend, best used as a weapon against non-Temple personnel... Just playing, jogging areas of memory perhaps, seeing what you remember about those days and times, perhaps prompting conversation or reminiscence? After all, Temple of Venus is always underestimated and that is perhaps the hardest aspect of it for the Priests and Priestesses of that corps to deal with - primarily perhaps because we all have fairly large egos, impressive, often baroque, Works of Art painted lareg on broad canvas, and like to be appreciated for our consummate skills and capacities... yet the normals always underestaimate us until the Ages of Peace (and relaxation and fun and so on) come, and so we are free to lots...

I'd be delighted to share what I can. :)
And the "normals" not only underestimate - they vilify. This is how I am learning the "Keep Silent" mystery. As a Sun/Mercury Gemini and a child of the so-called human potential movement, I am all about openness, sharing, exploration, authenticity - lately I've learned to apply a healthy dose of discrimination to all of that. It should really only be done in what New Agers would call a safe space. So yes I would share what I can but only where it's not subject to ridicule and attack.





And on a personal level Lady F? How are things and how are you? Physically, and in terms of your body, does the youhting seem to have taken hold and would that be an area of research you would be interested in discussing/contributing to?

More also, but let us leave some for later, after all...


The practises associated with life extension will work for anyone who has the capacity to carry them through diligently - they work to varying degrees according to many factors within the individual but they all work. I lost about 15 years over an 18 month periood of high level application (and I am not talking here about cosmetic surgery which only adjusts small outer bits of evidence, and while aesthetically pleasing, is not what this work of transformation is all about, as you know). however when I suffered a major, life shattering loss three months ago I dropped it all for a period where I was basically in a fight for my life. Now I have pulled through the severe stage but it's incredible how rapidly one ages when the upkeep is gone - I feel like David Bowie's character in The Hunger, if you're old enough to remember that film - if not it's worth seeing just to gaze at Catherine Deneuve! However, having accomplished what I did in the past, I see how we can play with, model and ultimately master the physical temple to a large degree. I'm crawling back toward my work now although with greatly reduced enthusiasm, but I'll get there.

Of course the life extension work is not only about the physical, in fact I'd say the innerwork is the larger part, and one cannot perform it while in grief. I'm enough of an old hand at suffering to have laid out a recovery plan for myself that, while not a full immortality strategy, is at least not outright destructive to the body, as I had been engaging in. Right now I need some comfort - some time to work through Saturn as it were.
And then, when the sore well of absence becomes a softer, more bearable relaity - it's back to the temple.

But we can discuss in more detail, if you like, you know where I am.

And thank you for both your interest and your wisdom. Hail Aphrodite! She gives with one hand, takes away with the other - and walks away laughing.
fera

[Radiant Star]

I'd be delighted to share what I can. :)
And the "normals" not only underestimate - they vilify. This is how I am learning the "Keep Silent" mystery... I am all about openness, sharing, exploration, authenticity - lately I've learned to apply a healthy dose of discrimination to all of that...

This jumped out at me and I have come to understand that it is essential to keep silent about many things. I knew it theoretically but its so easy to join in when the going is good and share.

It was something my tutor said in class one evening that finally got through to me about keeping silent.

Generosity and friendliness are wonderful character aspects, but even they can be misused.

Magickal paths really challenge us to take responsibility for the whole of ourselves: physical, mental and spiritual.

[m1thr0s]

I sometimes worry a bit that this is exactly what could wind up happening right here...that this could all just wind up being an expensive lesson in the importance of keeping your mouth shut etc...

For the mostpart I don't really think so though. This really is the information age and we have to find bigger and better ways of protecting our "hidden knowledge" other than hiding it off in closets etc. Sometimes the best defense is a strong offense, though a lot also depends on the exact nature of the knowledge at hand I suppose...

m1thr0s

[Radiant Star]

This really is the information age and we have to find bigger and better ways of protecting our "hidden knowledge" other than hiding it off in closets etc. Sometimes the best defense is a strong offense, though a lot also depends on the exact nature of the knowledge at hand I suppose...

m1thr0s

Indeed it does, but in a way, some kinds of knowledge hide themselves because even if you told someone about some kinds, they wouldn't understand it or they simply wouldn't believe it. It would be 'in plain sight' yet unexperienced and therefore hidden.

I think feranaja has already said although some of it is hidden in this way, the problem comes when the inexperienced person attacks someone because of their own limitations and lack of true understanding, so there again, some things must stay where they can be appreciated for what they truly are.

It reminds me of some of the things that have been discussed by intellectuals behind closed doors, then there is a leak to the general public; some of the knowledge, the experience and ability to comprehend what was actually said and intended is not there and there often follows needless offence and trouble.

[feranaja]

My own first thought on this at least is this: no matter how much we disclose, others don't ever truly get it unless they walk the same path. I thought I knew grief before I experienced it. I thought I understood solitude before I spent 2 years alone by the ocean. We can read all we like, but until we live a thing, it's only an abstraction. There is the finger, and then there is the moon.

And Rays, I couldn't agree more with what your tutor has said. My analyst used to say I had a "helping complex", lol. There is always a point at which any good quality becomes excessive. Even love. Sometimes "sharing and disclosure" are just signs of narcissism, neediness, self indulgence and often, though not always, we despise most in others what we ourselves need to confront.
We learn these things as we are able.
fera

[Radiant Star]

My own first thought on this at least is this: no matter how much we disclose, others don't ever truly get it unless they walk the same path.

I agree. I can always tell when others have lost someone close by the way they deal with my grief, which after two years, is still with me, albeit to a lesser degree.

And Rays, I couldn't agree more with what your tutor has said. My analyst used to say I had a "helping complex"

Many people of our generation were brought up to be dutiful, to give and not to count the cost, to be selfless and put others first; I always say that the only thing they didn't tell us was when we should not help and clearly, there are times when we should sit back lol

Sometimes "sharing and disclosure" are just signs of narcissism, neediness, self indulgence and often, though not always, we despise most in others what we ourselves need to confront.
We learn these things as we are able.
fera

I believe that it depends on whether we are introverted or extroverted, both types have different needs in this way. Some should learn to draw in more and others who would prefer to keep silent have to learn to reach out more; as I have gotten older, I have learned that there is no balance, just a set of actions and responses, sometimes we get it right and sometimes we don't, what matters is how much we allow it to cost us.

[m1thr0s]

well...having been a little too "hermetic" for my own good in my own life I think I can see the flip-side as well. There's a balance to be sorted out that's for sure. Here in this place I am interested in starting a new kind of conversation regarding the Body of Light and its surrounding methodologies. That can only be done just by starting the conversation and seeing where it all may go. Some of it will go straight down the shoots...other bits will probably run amok and become distorted while yet others will straighten themselves out and actually take proper flight. I have no way to monitor all of it and to some extent I am relying on the Law of the Strong to sort it all out I think...sort of banking on the axiom "the truth will out" in the end...

So I wonder that we are not really talking more about a proper time and place for such things...that there is a time and place to sound the alarms and another time and place to keep silence. Knowing which is which and when is when is not an exact science...we sort of have to take our best shot in all instances and just sort of deal with the fallout however it goes...

m1thr0s

[Ðanisty]

I'm not new here, but it's been eons since I posted, so just a hello to those of you who may remember me...oazaki, it's lovely to speak with you again, and Rays too of course. Let me reiterate - this forum is gorgeous visually and looks like it's a very intelligent and evolved place to discuss, learn and make friends.

Nuhad has always led me into some truly unique adventures.

feranajaI'm glad you like the look of the forum fera. With some cues from m1thr0s on what Abrahadabra and mutational alchemy in general are about, I think I did pretty good with the layout. It took some back and forth to get the graphics just right, but I think we managed pretty well to create a soothing atmosphere.

[feranaja]

Yes, it's soothing and elegant - the soft green and gold is very Venusian, too. You've done a wonderful job, I can come here and just relax, and read. That means a lot. Lovely appearance, thoughtful posts - this is one class act forum and I'm happy to be here.
fera
PS - the golden dogs look like prototypical sighthounds, forerunners of our modern day greyhounds, salukis and Afghans...they're gorgeous!

[feranaja]

well...having been a little too "hermetic" for my own good in my own life I think I can see the flip-side as well. There's a balance to be sorted out that's for sure. Here in this place I am interested in starting a new kind of conversation regarding the Body of Light and its surrounding methodologies. That can only be done just by starting the conversation and seeing where it all may go. Some of it will go straight down the shoots...other bits will probably run amok and become distorted while yet others will straighten themselves out and actually take proper flight. I have no way to monitor all of it and to some extent I am relying on the Law of the Strong to sort it all out I think...sort of banking on the axiom "the truth will out" in the end...

Two things m1thr0s - first, I also believe that truth will out, and even if it doesn't manifest in an externalized sense, truth can come to us as individuals when we take some distance and concentrate on our own innerwork. I'm hoping that my chosen and protracted solitary existence is not a neurotic retreat from the world but rather a rigourous contemplative journey - and I know it's all too easy to convince yourself of that in the face of all facts suggesting otherwise.I am not ready to be "in the world ubt ont of it"; however I DO know which aspects of my character require attention before I can fiunction well in a world that seems all too geared toward externals for my comfort. I will get there, but meantime it's much better for me to spend my time alone, well - away from human society at any rate. I have lots of company, just not a lot of the upright variety. I accomplish so much more on every level without all that hullabaloo and distraction of human society.

The second thing is a question; where can I find a clear and dumbed down exposition of your Body of Light topic? I'd like to appreciate your thoughts more fully, but I have no mathematical background - I am actually seeking a tutor(at a reasonable rate!) for the more challenging aspects of my nutrition training, if you know anyone I would love to hear from you - so I need to be walked through your concepts. Any particular posts, articles or threads you could direct me too? Something Introductory might make following the more obscure threads more possible for asomeone like myself.

Thanks again for this place, it's clarly a labour of love.
fera

[m1thr0s]

I would have to say keep an eye on the Abrahadabra Discussion forums fera...what I am lacking right now is a step-by-step tour of these ideas starting from square one and progressing logically to square one-hundred, yet all the basic concepts are actually fairly well laid out already. The amount of actual math involved in these things is probably significantly less than your work in Nutrition. While we are dealing in a lot of ideas that have their basis in mathematics, the amount of actual mathematical number-crunching involved is really very nominal. It's more conceptual mathematics, which is actually a lot of what *physics* really is anyway.

Mutational Alchemy itself is really just a specific technique for approaching elemental "fields"...a way of creating subtle (ie psychic) energy fields following the rules defined in the "bigrams" of the east. At their simplest level there are only 4 such energy fields possible, corresponding to fire, water, air and earth. It does get more complex than this once you start "stacking" bigrams, but initially there are only 4 of these to keep track of. Now it happens that these 4 elemental fields also correspond to the 4 elemental fields around which the Tree of Life is fashioned, so it is possible to use this method to traverse the Tree of Life itself without requiring the practitioner to *project* anything other than the elemental fields themselves...to *weave* these energy fields in their proper order, and then simply observe the sensations that follow. As with any meditation practise, there are centering and grounding operations that mark a proper end to visualization cycles, at which time you can either repeat the process or go have lunch...whatever...

So it really does begin from very simple practises and I still need to plug these introductory application *gaps* better than I have done thus far. These forums turned out to be a lot more maintenance intensive than I bargained for so I am a little behind in this area to date.

m1thr0s

[feranaja]

Quick question- Qabalistically you're referring to the Four Worlds, yes?

I appeciate this explanation and also that you're facing a lot of work here...will look forward to the developments as they happen. I sometimes don't read the heavy stuff as my brain hurts from the equations I have to work on (which probably are not that difiicult to anyone up to date in math, but I am not, so it's a challenge). I'll have a look as brainfog permits - fascinating ideas here.

feranaja

[m1thr0s]

yes, that's right...the Four Worlds.
you should perhaps read The Abrahadabra Grid (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=199) for a brief overview...it's one of my more lucid articles I think and talks about the Four Worlds arrangement.

*fascinating* is certainly a word I would agree with. In my case, words like astonishing, mind-boggling, life-altering and such would also apply. Though these ideas start out very simply and in a very practical vein, the longrange implications are staggering... But I should let you get there (or not) at your own pace.

m1thr0s

[feranaja]

Thank you for the link m1thr0s - with fear and trembling I will go and read. If I emerge mind boggled or slink mumbling back to number-crunching nutrient percentages for whelping dalmations remains to be seen.

fera, wondering if life alterations are in order or not...

[m1thr0s]

As soon as I can find a little time I am going to run a few VERY INTRO kinds of articles...just focusing on the very barest basics and some experiments people can run around these and nothing else. I realize now more than ever before that I have been at this stuff for so long that I often don't even realize how "out there" it often seems to others. In truth, it's all very powerfully grounded in very simple building blocks. I need to make that better accessable to people or else I run the risk of expecting people to take my bs "on faith" and that's not what I am about at all...I don't need "believers"...what I need is for people to hit the same chain of "aha" moments that I hit over an extended period of time. On their own and in their own individual ways. That's the only thing that really matters here.

m1thr0s

[feranaja]

As soon as I can find a little time I am going to run a few VERY INTRO kinds of articles...just focusing on the very barest basics and some experiments people can run around these and nothing else. I realize now more than ever before that I have been at this stuff for so long that I often don't even realize how "out there" it often seems to others. In truth, it's all very powerfully grounded in very simple building blocks. I need to make that better accessable to people or else I run the risk of expecting people to take my bs "on faith" and that's not what I am about at all...I don't need "believers"...what I need is for people to hit the same chain of "aha" moments that I hit over an extended period of time. On their own and in their own individual ways. That's the only thing that really matters here.

m1thr0s

This is so beautifully put. I relate very much in my own field, where I have also been at it so long and so intensely, I THINK I am talking basics but I can leave other people staring blankly as in "wtf was THAT all about..." lol. I often fear that I'm talking down to people (about nutrition) if I start explaining things like dietary energy composition which seems so basic to me - just this moring I spent over an hour explaining Biological Value to a woman who has had purebred dogs for thirty years (I thought we all knew BV...) This goes to the teaching thread, its so important to remember that we are not condescending to our audience when we chunk the material down to its foundations. Many of my students ome to class thinking they're very precocious only to reveal they dont actually know what a carbohydrate is (you know its like...grain, makes you fat, right?)

I look forward to your inroductory articles and I suspect you will gain a lot from doing them, too.
fera

[m1thr0s]

I look forward to your inroductory articles and I suspect you will gain a lot from doing them, too.yeah...I think so. It's a very useful thing being able to retrace your steps exactly true to how you took them...intelligent people don't arrive at lofty conclusions by accident...even the accidents have their logical precedents really...

m1thr0s

[Okazaki Castle]

Venus is far darker, more powerful, and more terrifying than those who mock and diminish Her would believe. It's also nice for me to speak with someone who understands this.


;) The scoffers fail to pay attention to her own nature... prbbly because they look ugly, boorish, boring and sexually incompetent by comparison :p . Venus rules pleasure, meaning she is the best at it - and can also withdraw it from who she chooses. Imagine a life without pleasure. All that is left is pain. This is but one of the things Venus can do, and has at times done. All you value, all that makes you feel good about yourself, all that you enjoy, all that brings you comfort or enjoyment, all these things withdrawn. From love to honour and respect to a full belly, health and somewhere to rest your head. Venus is hardcore. In more ways than one :laugh: :D


The follower of Venus has been portrayed as lightweight, hedonistic, even shallow, but in many ways I believethis Way is possibly the most difficult of all. I do appreciate having a friend who knows what all of this entails. It's not about having great erotic adventures and looking pretty, any one can enjoy those things and it doesn't make them a Priest of Venus.


Well, Venus has a light side too, that's why everybody loves her. Except homosexuals many times, but she doesn't want to love them either, so it's sort of quits (yes, dear reader, Venus is into bisexuality and threesomes. Well, obviously, these are male fantasies and she creates all of those, then uses them to control/manipulate/charm/please you, pick your perspective of the four, ammounts to the same thing really in practice...)


Any Path, when walked fully, will take us into the depths of terror, and we had better be prepared.


Once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny. If you're Yoda. The rest of us take it more lightly, and don't give as much of a damn, for we are stronger and greater than all darkness, and all light too. Darkness is painful and unpleasant often, but also can be fun. Same with light. Thing is, it is the pain one has gone thru and the sacrifices one has made, what was lost and what is not sought after by anybody, which keeps people from trying to copy you, and so allows you a place to call your own: because you were willing to go there, but nobody else is really. With Temple of Venus, we usually first develop an *exceptional* field of ability, greater than any other could aspire to... and then offer that in sacrifice... or have it taken from us in sacrifice if we are unwilling to make sacrifices, refusing to engage in such a practice if at all possible (like me where I, my friends and family are concerned). So it's a double lock gate in a way: first the ability, or set of personal qualities have to be developed (which no normal really has the talent, guidance, patience or sensuality to do) then that is sacrificed, which nobody who first worked for and acquired that ability or state of being would be willing to do. But then comes the good part: we get back what we sacrifced better, in an enhanced and powered-up form, as we ourselves enter into godhood, physically speaking. For after all, is not Temple of Venus the most physical of paths? (as well as the most internally satisfying and so spiritually illuminating... :p :laugh: )


I'll contribute if it seems appropriate. And you are the second person today to mention the old days. Yes - they were fun and in some ways, deeply special.

And, it seems, impossible to re-create....


Never say never. As a little secret, I was originally contracted for this system by Venus, precisely to recreate her glory days and ressurect her religion. So I've been working on it for many lifetimes, and from a timeless persective too of course (as Empedocles notes of Venus's abilities). More information on this side of things I'm releasing gradually on the thread Selling ABRAHADABRA for $$$'s (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=460&page=5). But as a little preview, suffice to say that I plan to rebuild, and get operational once more, her Primary Temple site at Kouklia, Cyprus. The Temple of Corinth is where I have my best memories from, and so also plan to recreate and reactivate at some point. Which Temples do you remember being based at, if I may ask?

Much more power and potential. I just wish it didn't have to be as painful as well. But when one loves greatly one suffers greatly - another aspect of the Path. The dark face of Venus is a place of unspeakable sorrow.

And yourself?


I am still recovering in many ways (from the cuts received during the 'war' period). But the strong potentials do seem to be fitting into place there, and some of the ability is coming thru once more. I do not conceal the fact that I am nowhere near as sexually brilliant as I was before the war period started, mainly because I had to do 'harmonize and pass thru' on the Rothschild Cartel, but still the level of ability is well above normal and increasing daily now, so no cause to complain excessively I suppose. Of course, I expect due recompense for all of this, and one of the aspects of my price there before I agreed to undertake the clause was a new body, which could shapeshift, including the essential parameters, which I want to exceed what is humanly possible, for I am a show-off and like to cause that sweet pain during the sexual process which perforce requires natural endowment. It has been promised, I move towards that area, but, like everything else, progress is slower than I would like. Still, I trust her... not least because she is a very good friend, also because she knows I'm nasty when crossed or unfulfilled, but mainly because we both want to meet up again and engage in Divine Pleasures, and she's always one to ensure that she gets the best lays, hence she is verily well motivated to provide for me...

I'd be delighted to share what I can. :)
And the "normals" not only underestimate - they vilify.


People learn by example: making them impotent or frigid, and causing them to lose any true love they have in their lives, then making them lose their comforts and securities, then kicking them when they're down, then maybe finishing them off or allowing them to rise once more if they are duly respectful, serves to educate mass mind and the individuals hereon as to proper respect and deference to one. Much of the process is effected thru the collective subconcscious, btw. But the examples given pour encourgaer les autres do have to be real and expressed physically.

This is how I am learning the "Keep Silent" mystery. As a Sun/Mercury Gemini and a child of the so-called human potential movement, I am all about openness, sharing, exploration, authenticity - lately I've learned to apply a healthy dose of discrimination to all of that. It should really only be done in what New Agers would call a safe space. So yes I would share what I can but only where it's not subject to ridicule and attack.


Here would be one such place I contend: it is under m1thr0s's shield system, which means nobody gets here who shouldn't be here, and once here they always behave in accordance with that vibe, which corresponds to his character, which is very noble, honourable and fair. Hence, perhaps some revealing may take place? As feels comfortable for you of course, my lady :) ;)

The practises associated with life extension will work for anyone who has the capacity to carry them through diligently - they work to varying degrees according to many factors within the individual but they all work. I lost about 15 years over an 18 month periood of high level application (and I am not talking here about cosmetic surgery which only adjusts small outer bits of evidence, and while aesthetically pleasing, is not what this work of transformation is all about, as you know). however when I suffered a major, life shattering loss three months ago I dropped it all for a period where I was basically in a fight for my life. Now I have pulled through the severe stage but it's incredible how rapidly one ages when the upkeep is gone - I feel like David Bowie's character in The Hunger, if you're old enough to remember that film - if not it's worth seeing just to gaze at Catherine Deneuve! However, having accomplished what I did in the past, I see how we can play with, model and ultimately master the physical temple to a large degree. I'm crawling back toward my work now although with greatly reduced enthusiasm, but I'll get there.

Of course the life extension work is not only about the physical, in fact I'd say the innerwork is the larger part, and one cannot perform it while in grief. I'm enough of an old hand at suffering to have laid out a recovery plan for myself that, while not a full immortality strategy, is at least not outright destructive to the body, as I had been engaging in. Right now I need some comfort - some time to work through Saturn as it were.
And then, when the sore well of absence becomes a softer, more bearable relaity - it's back to the temple.

Yes, very similar exprieces on my side. That was when I first decided that a way had to be found to put the whole process on automatic. And so found a way to do that for family, friends and what I call Inner Circles. I've detailed this some on www.magicatastrophe.com (http://www.magicatastrophe.com), to save reposting the same material here, but could always email or PM it to you if you like. Conscious knowledge of the methodology is not really necessary for it to work, the QED approach has always been my preferred Modus Operandi. But discussion of the parameters and possible ways to enhance and fine tune the process would be areas of discussion and advice that I'd defintely be *very* interested in, if you could be persuaded into assisting there, or incline in that direction naturally. Mutually profitable to be sure, and some sort of further due recompense/price/reward would of course also be forthcoming: more in terms of what is derived from the process of course, but also whatever surprises Venus comes up with in this, she tends to be quite good that way...

But we can discuss in more detail, if you like, you know where I am.

Yes, Gatineu Hills, rather far away!!:laugh: Or did you mean this forum, or elsewhere? Perhaps an email?

And thank you for both your interest and your wisdom. Hail Aphrodite! She gives with one hand, takes away with the other - and walks away laughing.


And thank-you for your compassion, beauty and unerring style/wisdom. Of course, when a woman walks away, the real secret is how to compel her to return and give you what you want. As a rule, women may be into comparison shopping, but always go where they are best satisfied, ultimately. And hence it is just a question of knowing/learning their nature well, then using that knowledge in practical demonstration, such they find out about it either personally or thru the mutual connection which all women do, in a way, share (though I am reliably infomred that lesbians are excluded from that well of wisdom). As well as lovers, Venus does of course love friends, and it's just a question of mastering her character and mysteries... and waiting for this slow, retard Time system to move to a place where the gates are open to allow one to practically reap the beneifts of one's state of being and abilities... Damn retard Time...

all the best Lady F,
Sebastian / Oazaki.

[feranaja]

Oazaki my dear - I think we need a new thread! Shall I start it or would you like to?

And yes, please email me anytime. Although I do trust m1thr0s good judgement, I am also old fashioned enough to be private with certain things.

I vividly recall my former glory, actually. My temple was at modern day Geyre, in Turkey. A long story and a harsh one - but again, too personal and lengthy to relate here...plus, there is much I am still sorting out about it all.

Your kind words made my day, let's take this topic to a new home. Meantime, I am going to magiccatastrophe to read about your technique. Personally, I'm relying on sleep, vegetarian diet, Epsom salts baths and yoga to rejuvenate...for the moment that is.

A pleasure as always,
fera

[Okazaki Castle]

Well, I very nobly yielded to the temptation and started it myself. That way, I get to have somewhere to invite you to hang in (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?p=5201#post5201). I call it Temple of Venus, in honour of Venus and her priestesses, and also because we're still at war with the Christians, and their stupid, repressive moral (and hence legal) codices, based in St Peters', whose cornerstone comes from Temple of Venus, schmucks used it without realising what it meant, for stones retain their harmonics, and pass them on to other stones in their viciinty and structural integritty. Venus is good at long term too, you see. She just doesn't intepret or understand long term in the same way as the xtian-influenced do...

So coming on over Fera? I will treat all those who're interested to a quality opium vibe via my Tesla Generator / Personal Energy Modulator, if you state the secret passkey to that ('China Three' - that's a Temple of Venus Secret, we use secrets ins special ways in Temple) once arrived on the thread. But only if you come there via an introduction from this thread. Learning the secret by other means won't work...

all the best,
Oazaki.

[Kuroyagi]

Hello Feranaja- good to see you here! :)

This forums gets better and better, with great new posters! (what a shame that Im short on time and cant read much)...But you are certainly one who makes a forum more interesting to read. I just contacted Venus/Aphrodite last week for the frist time (well, consciously) and found her very adventurous (with my life)...very different to the sometimes one-sided, public portrayal of her image but inspirational on all creative levels and not only on the very basic ones...;)

[feranaja]

How lovely to see you too Kuroyagi - and thank you for the warm words. I'm enjoying this place a lot, m1thr0s and Danisty have done such a good job. There's a great balance here of the intelletual and the personal, which I like. And I'm happy to hear you've had a Venusian experience - did you see the thread oazaki started, on the Temple of Venus? If you can disclose more I'd love to hear about it.... must be the green and gold Netzachian colours that have made this forum draw so much of her energy here.

Thank you for the welcome...great to see you, too.
fera