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Okazaki Castle
11-27-2006, 06:14 PM
The worshippers of Mithras were divided into seven grades, each marking a stage of knowledge in the cult's mysteries. An initiate started as Corax (the Raven), then moved progressively through the stages of Nymphus (bridegroom), Miles (soldier), Leo (lion), Perses (Persian), Heliodromus (Runner of the Sun) before reaching the ultimate grade of Pater (Father). Each grade wore a costume and headmask to symbolize his grade.


http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/archive/mithras/images/fig6.gif


'To the invincible God Mithras, Lucius Antonius Proculus, prefect of the First Cohort of Batavians Antoniniana, willingly and deservedly fulfilled his vow.'

Deo Inv(icto) M(ithrae) / L(ucius) Antonius / Proculus / praef(ectus) coh(ortis) I Bat(avorum) Antoninianae / v(otum) s(oluit) l(ibens) m(erito)

http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/archive/mithras/images/alta.jpg

One wonders about many things, not least of which is the conversion to binary code of I A.

More importantly though, how is invincibility earned, and then applied? This is the real question I've been seeking to elucidate the answer to ever since coming across m1thr0s's system for the first time. It's a nice property, I like it. Similar to the sort of stuff I deal in, you see, and that's rare, and good to see elsewhere...

There's a lot to this side of things that I haven't figured out yet, must be said... Hints and info appreciated... :)

http://www.carnaval.com/aquarius/mithras-zodiac.jpg

all the best all,
Oazaki.

m1thr0s
11-27-2006, 06:22 PM
Is that last image supposed to Mithrais Oazaki???

Cuz it's almost identical in every respect to Hermes...

not to mention Ng overtures, which is always true of Hermes anyway...

m1thr0s

Okazaki Castle
11-27-2006, 06:47 PM
Well, apparently: http://www.carnaval.com/aquarius/mithras-zodiac.jpg

I just go with what google tells me, on the basis of which image looks the prettiest/most useful for the purpose I wish to address at any particular time. Dark angel with a sword surrounded by the Zodiac is how I saw it. Bit like sitting in the centre with heavy firepower surrounded by a shield system. Well, you can see how it reminded me of you...

Hermes, hmm, would contend that Mithras, being a Sun god, was of Apollo, and hence Hermes merely stole his cattle, and prbbly owes him a lyre still, having tried to renege / not deliver on that debt. I suggest you go beat up Mercury till he gives it back...

Oazaki...

Okazaki Castle
11-27-2006, 06:52 PM
Oh yes, and Raven, or Crow, note that in this system you're the bottom rung. Then you get horny and have lots of women, bit like a certain gentleman from Japan who shall remain nameless despite his advanced years. And that's when you're doing rung 2. Still a long way to go till you reach Father though, as that symbolism or position may relate, for example in reference to Takamatsu.

I would also contend that Tanemura is, also, a combat ninja. Same with a few others. Hatsumi holds an acceptable front, that is the Raven role. The rest who know but don't speak kill people. I tend to relate more to them, and think that it's about time one of them told Hatsumi what's up, dude's done his role well, and it is fast approaching time to move on, do we not all think...

Regards all,
Oazaki.

Okazaki Castle
11-27-2006, 06:57 PM
So does being invincible relate to levels 8 and 9 in the ninja hierarchies, Mind and Eyes of God?


If an expert in the fighting arts sincerely pursues the essence of Ninjutsu, devoid of the influence of the ego's desires, the student will progressively come to realize the ultimate secret for becoming invincible - the attainment of the mind and eyes of God.

-Toshitsugu Takamatsu, 33rd Sôke of Togakure Ryu Ninpo.


This in turn prompts the question: Is/was Mithras a ninja doing Mind and Eyes of God? Or is just coincidence, or similarity in Modus Operandi / History-Mythology?

Regards all,
Oazaki.

m1thr0s
11-28-2006, 03:13 AM
Hermes, hmm, would contend that Mithras, being a Sun god, was of Apollo, and hence Hermes merely stole his cattle, and prbbly owes him a lyre still, having tried to renege / not deliver on that debt. I suggest you go beat up Mercury till he gives it back...bear in mind that Hermes was still in diapers when that deal went down...pretty slick action for a toddler...

No, I think that your airborn godforms just tend to share a lot of the same iconographic identifiers. I'm not used to seeing Mithrais with wings...that'll take a little getting used to...the statue as a whole looks just like a living Caduceus. Since Mithrais is often associated to phallic force etc...it is a curiosity just how the connection may have been transferred to Hermes.

m1thr0s

MythMath
11-28-2006, 03:40 AM
Similar to the 'living Caduceus':

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/lionhead_jp40.jpg

Plato, for example, in his dialogue Timaeus said that when the creator of the universe first formed the cosmos, he shaped its substance in the form of the letter X, representing the intersection of the two celestial circles of the zodiac and the celestial equator. This cross-shaped symbol was often depicted in ancient art to indicate the cosmic sphere. In fact, one of the most famous examples of this motif is a Mithraic stone carving showing the so-called "lion-headed god," whose image is often found in Mithraic temples, standing on a globe that is marked with the cross representing the two circles of the zodiac and the celestial equator.

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/diagram3.jpeg

Zodiac (circle of 12 figures) with sun in Aries. In the "geocentric" cosmology the sun was believed to move along this circle around the earth once a year. The other cosmic circle shown here, parallel to the earth's equator, is called the "celestial equator."

all from: http://www.well.com/user/davidu/mithras.html

Naomi
11-28-2006, 10:48 AM
Oh yes, and Raven, or Crow, note that in this system you're the bottom rung. Then you get horny and have lots of women, bit like a certain gentleman from Japan who shall remain nameless despite his advanced years. And that's when you're doing rung 2. Still a long way to go till you reach Father though, as that symbolism or position may relate, for example in reference to Takamatsu.

I would also contend that Tanemura is, also, a combat ninja. Same with a few others. Hatsumi holds an acceptable front, that is the Raven role. The rest who know but don't speak kill people. I tend to relate more to them, and think that it's about time one of them told Hatsumi what's up, dude's done his role well, and it is fast approaching time to move on, do we not all think...

Regards all,
Oazaki.

In my interpretation, this is not the case. The crow are entry level because they represent LAW. The law must be obeyed before one can be admitted into the other hierarchies. This correlation between crows and law is found In Japan, as the Tengu are the divine guardian warriors of buddhist law. Including the black buddha (KAIN to you and me, Okazaki) Most famously, the crow are considered the law keepers in many native american tribes. They are seen holding trials in nature...I'll have to find a resource for that but there is a phenomenon that has been scientifically recorded where crows judge a lawbreaker in a court of their own. In the Hopi tribe, Angwusomtaqwa, the crow mother, is the initiator into the great mysteries, sort of like the High Priestess of Hermes most illuminated and celebrated book of the Tarot. The Crow kachinas, or katsinas, called Angwusi, are warriors who uphold the law. (And I am speaking of universal law, not local human law which prohibits strange things) Clowns...or HEYOKA are beaten by the Angwusi when they become too rediculous or behave very badly. Considering the clowns, mud people, heyokas are among the most powerful and revered people in native society yesterday and today...so the Angwusi cannot be anything less than an equal but opposite kind of being to be able to punish such divine tricksters and beings of chaos.

Zeus himself is a being of law, he imprisoned the titans and restored order to the world.

I must say when you said you were switching to the Zeus godform there was much rejoicing to be had in Naomi Land, which is in front of a computer in Memphis right next to a cup of coffee and a bunch of cats and easels.

So who do you think Zeus is? No he's not popular at all, especially not amongst Satanist that I've seen...rebels, the lot of them...at least the authentic ones.

In Egypt there were, if memory serves, three eyes of the sun, and a light and dark side. Raven by one of his many names, called himself The Shadow of the Sun in my meditation. It is Raven, in the Pacific Northwest, who rescued the sun from the selfish sky god and threw it back into the sky, by impregnating a girl with a pine needle. Sound familiar yet? :mwink:



Then you get horny and have lots of women, bit like a certain gentleman from Japan who shall remain nameless despite his advanced years.

Ah yeah I'd hit it, Okazaki. Think though, why your sudden attraction to Zeus form and then think about how popular he is and why these bird guys are so popular, huh? Okay now you want to attract the girls, right? But not daughters of Eve, they're boring and require monogamy because they're so insecure. You want daughters of Lelith or rather, Venus, because even in her light aspect she is a damned creature of chaos...just look at her manic episodes in mythology. Kitsune, same deal: illusion, confusion, trickery, chaos. You want to attract something, what do you use? Polar opposite.

:rofl:

Okazaki Castle
11-28-2006, 11:41 AM
I must say when you said you were switching to the Zeus godform there was much rejoicing to be had in Naomi Land, which is in front of a computer in Memphis right next to a cup of coffee and a bunch of cats and easels.


Oh cool, why? It's actually not obvious to me, despite the fact that I'm usually a bit of a know-it-all...

So who do you think Zeus is? No he's not popular at all, especially not amongst Satanist that I've seen...rebels, the lot of them...at least the authentic ones.


Well, many things, but most importantly he is Venus's Papa, even though he didn't bear her he fuflils that role for her.
Zeus is a Thundergod form to my mind, and an Olympian and a planet.

I myself am a rebel against others but a harsh and autocratic dictator where my own will is concerned. However, as regards others laws, or Laws of Nature even, I hate them intensely if they get in my way. IS this not why I attacked the planes of God themselves? Including Brahma and Sach Kand, lord of the love plane. Not just mere godheads, but whole planes of creation. I will not be told what to do and how I may behave, by anyone. Though I take that principle more gently where ordinary humans are concerned, or as regards those who are not yet aware of my fuller and truer nature, I am only so relatively gentle if I like them and they have done things worthy of respect and beneficial to me or mine.

Hatsumi does serve some valuable role in relation to you personally. We always picked up on that, and that you like him for it, and so he has been given a lot of leeway. For example, his role within mind and eyes of god is what moved all policmen worldwide. His character was in practice slack and undisciplined, and corrupt in undesirable ways, as evidenced in practice by past actions of his playing pieces. He has lately become firmer and more disciplined. Look, I like the guy, and he has ability, no doubt. But I would also contend that he is a bit like the ninja clan's Adam: we all like him (except maybe one or two), he does a useful job, but fundementally though we tell him he's the greatest and best and most useful when it suits our interests to do so, in reality he's the retard of the bunch. Not in a bad way, more like in the sense that someone has to relate to the mortals and most of us weren't willing to go there.

I've checked out Hatsumi's forms, including his above-void teacher form which is enlightened and very powerful, etc. Compared to me, and others here, his mindforce is weak. I do not think he would present any significant challenge to crush/kill. As stated before though, if he and his (the whole Bujinkan) wish to test this again then we may do so, tonight for example, and I shall be more copious in my examples unto them, leaving less room for doubt. I back up my position with practice. If it is going to be a question of trying to restrct me, restrain me or attempt to tie me to a line of behaviour or school of thought, frankly, Hatsumi can piss off and commit seppuku for disrespecting First Emperor Go-Nijo, or even First recorded Emperor Jimmu. He has earened no such right or place and I will not, I repeat NOT, be restricted by him or accept attempts by him to make my behaviour more acceptable. I am here to rule, especially as regards Japan, who should all really know better, not to be taught like some baka deshi schoolchild, or even a valued Inner Circle student.

To repeat though: these are just words. The truth of the matter can be decided thru combat if there is doubt or dissention on behalf of any party.

I would say a more mature and less costly attitude would be to yield, and render unto me and minje that which is ours. We have locked this system in so many ways its untrue. IF that goes unrecognised by some who really should know better, then we will enter into overt war over it.

Personally I like Hatsumi and think he could well make a good friend. *shrugs* War and combat is war and combat though. You make it with those who oppose your direction in things, after due warning and notification has been given. And yes, that would include Kain Doshi if he didn't know better. I do not ask others to place me first because I'm good at administrating and have useful ideas or anything. I take first place usually, when it is useful to me, because my power is greater than all else, and I can crush those who stand against me: break their soul, eradicate their spirit, destroy their physical body. And all they connect to. Hardcore. And to repeat, I will not be told what to do. I would quite enjoy learning some of the physical techniques from him though, and he could teach me in that area if he agrees to it. In that, I am quite willing to assume and enter into the student role. But as he and all others who matter know, that is not where true power lies, even in physical combat. Fighting is a luxury. My focus in physical aletrcations is killing, in all ways of all levesl, straight there. That is why I cannot be beaten, should it come to it. I would be willing to test this, mainly because I'm curious about what would happen and take a different attitude to death than most. 'Sides, I want to move to my other body ASAP and the physical death of this form, if it does come about, would be a handy and quick way to do that....




In Egypt there were, if memory serves, three eyes of the sun, and a light and dark side. Raven by one of his many names, called himself The Shadow of the Sun in my meditation. It is Raven, in the Pacific Northwest, who rescued the sun from the selfish sky god and threw it back into the sky, by impregnating a girl with a pine needle. Sound familiar yet? :mwink:


Erm, well, as a little bit of info to be a trouble-maker, Kuroyagi listed his interests/hobby as 'Pine needle collecting' over on magicatastrophe... :eek: :yes: :mad: :no: :D :cool:


Ah yeah I'd hit it, Okazaki. Think though, why your sudden attraction to Zeus form and then think about how popular he is and why these bird guys are so popular, huh? Okay now you want to attract the girls, right? But not daughters of Eve, they're boring and require monogamy because they're so insecure. You want daughters of Lelith or rather, Venus, because even in her light aspect she is a damned creature of chaos...just look at her manic episodes in mythology. Kitsune, same deal: illusion, confusion, trickery, chaos. You want to attract something, what do you use? Polar opposite.



I've been doing Zeus form since around February this year actually. The Zhedhi Order's astrology is dominated by the Jupiter-Sun-Venus*Ouranos eclipse, so it was always a question of when to more to what. I just tend to keep a lot of things covert and hidden to allow other people the chance to underestimate me. That in turn allows me to trap them. Also I've got to be careful to not destroy this Creation before I've taken what I want from it. Hence for example why I don't do Ouranos, or Khaos, form so overtly yet...

The switch to Zeus form was cuz he's light and shiny compared to being the Antichrist, which is how I was mainly viewed I think by the mortals subsequent to my ultimatums to them in February of this year. They like light and shiny stuff, and so do women usually also, who freak out when you're being too dark.

You're right about daughters of Lillith, Venus, and so on. Always did like and find more attractive the darker, more spirited, more fiery and passionate and 'don't give a fuck' women over their more prim and proper sisters...;) :yes: http://www.electricdiary.com/images/emoticons/rose.gif

all the best,
Oazaki.

Naomi
11-28-2006, 11:54 AM
Speaking of Brahma, did you notice that the entropic force actually glueing this state in place is Vishnu, not Brahma? I'm not suggesting by this that removing Brahma wasn't a good idea - he does form the base of the pyramid. Now I'm speaking of Vishnu as Kali, not skull and naked black sexiness Kali, Shakti to Siva, but rather - demon vishnu aspect Kali, which is pronounced differently, how about that, I just learned of that a while back. Maybe you would get further faster if you took qlippothic Vishnu out to the trash. :mrolleyes:

Okay please explain what is going on with you and Hatsumi. Did something happen here that I didn't hear about? I have really, not clue. :mhissyfit:

Tell me or I'll have it beated out of you!!! :mad::rofl:

Okazaki Castle
11-28-2006, 12:51 PM
Hmm, well, ok, will check out Vishnu. Sivabhasa, the main exponent of Siva on this planet, has begun the Tandav dance, which I think will sort out the Visnu side of things, and it is courteous and useful to me to let him handle that side of things if such he is doing, hence prbbly don't incline to intervene, but will investigate.

As regards Hatsumi, we had different focuses for a while which resulted in the death of Harry, Eagle's husband on my side of freinds and of Glen Morris on his side of friends. Not a problem given the ressurection stuff but still irritating. Plus an incident invloving the police with a friend of mine (the legendary Silk One, best kunoichi of all time, used to crucify her targets by tying them to a St Andrew's cross with silk binds then slitting their throat, or a specific chakra) which irritated me and nearly caused me to allow the death of the whole lot of them. So yes, some history. But fundementally I like the guy and he fulfills a hard role, and I respect his abilities and the hard work it took to get there, and maintain that positionb. But really, honestly, most of the other active ninjas in Japan are taking the piss out of him. They're like 'Ok you're the first and true disciple of Takamatsu and the one who was taught and inherited all the Secret Ryu and powers. Uh-huh. That's why we leave you there to teach the schoolchildren whilst we go off and do the real stuff' And the hints are all over the place, even for those who don;t look at thier often quite hidden vibes. For example, Tanemuar going into detail on the Amatsu Tatara, being the most obvious external indication perhaps...

That having been said, as the overt external head of all ninjutsu, Hatsumi is in a delicate position should power struggles ever go down. Hnece I make sure I occupy the role of main opponent, or adversary, there. He's mine, sort of thing. The rest, who use Mind and Eyes of God to fight and kill with, know of my power and so respect the distance, and leave him to me. I in turn am gentle with him. But rearrangements must and will take place. If I am opposed in them, I will remove/crush that which opposes. Hatsumi is not normal human living in illusion. He has awareness and free will, hence is expected to live to that standard and forward the plans for system decomission. Failure is not a possibiility. You do not try and maybe fail, maybe succeed. You live the appropriate vibe, the appropriate Fate streams, and the results fall into place around that focus. Unles your focus is wrong, which is due to lack of self-discipline and alignment, and which results in cuts from the other Fate streams, which are far, far more powerful than he is or could ever be. Not as a criticism or competition, just fact.

all the best,
Oazaki.

Phoenix
12-07-2006, 09:39 AM
So does being invincible relate to levels 8 and 9 in the ninja hierarchies, Mind and Eyes of God?

This in turn prompts the question: Is/was Mithras a ninja doing Mind and Eyes of God? Or is just coincidence, or similarity in Modus Operandi / History-Mythology?

Regards all,
Oazaki.

Well i think you need me here...

The so called eye of god is a tecnich that cant be taught, it is the ability to feel and to sence the oponente in a few meters radius, hiding or not.
Only advanced masters in martial arts can attain such a estate ( unless, you live in a world of obsolute fear , then that tecnich is almost innate).

Basicaly itīs the ability to see beyond itself...

TAO rules...

Okazaki Castle
12-10-2006, 09:04 AM
Well i think you need me here...


Aye, bien sur... we've all got our roles to fulfill and, as the website says, each and every one of us is a star. It's just the process of moving into that active realisation and application really. And obviously, an incadescant mythological semi-deity, or deity, is all about that really... :)

all da best,
Oazaki.

Ci Celli Ddu
01-27-2007, 07:25 PM
What I like about Mithras is that he was so popular and widespread in Roman Europe (due of course to his followers: the soldiers) that the Christians felt it necessary to steal his nativity story off him: born in a stable of divine parentage as he was. I also suspect that the Bullfighting in Spain is a remnant of his cult.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/371287823_0ebdffbc27_m.jpg

Naomi
06-06-2007, 02:24 AM
Well this is just funny. I did some research at the library today because I got ambushed last night by this Mithras fellow - it turns out he was actually very dark - oh yes, he's a sun god, sure, lol. Geez remind me to do research before wandering around in uncharted mythology....^_^ More than a dozen books on Roman mythology didn't even bother mentioning him, and the ones I found that did mention him referred to the rituals as "savage" and "revolting"

The religion of Mithraism was immensely successful, it nearly succeeded in overcoming Christianity if one is to believe the historian's accounts.

"Celebrated temples, served by numerous clergy, arose in profusion, just as in later days sumptuous cathedrals would burgeon in Mexico and in Goa in the wake of devout warriors. Magi, or 'fire-bearers', were to be found all over the Levant. Prayers and hymns were chanted before the altar on which glowed the sacred flame, milk and honey and oil were offered, with the same precautions taken as in Persia lest the breath of the officiant should sully the holy fire.

What was it that caused Mithraism to attract so many votaries throughout the Roman world? Its rites, celebrated in caves and crypts were not nearly as poignant or exciting as those of Cybele or Isis. Purification, a sort of baptism, a common meal, these could be found elsewhere and celebrated with far more grandeur.

The revolting rite of the taurobolium, that is, the drenching of a neophyte crouching in a pit with the blood of a bull slaughtered above him, as a symbol of regeneration, though frequently associated with Mithras the Bullslayer is properly a rite not of Mithraism but of the Great Mother of Asia Minor.

[...]

He was, in addition, the god of loyalty to one's word: an oath sanctioned by him was considered to be inviolable. What a change from the lush mysteries of the Nile or of Phrygia! this chaste celibate god commends not the reckless fertility of nature but the single-minded continence of the spirit.

Of all the eastern cults no other offered so rigorous a system as that of Mithras. Is it to be wondered at that in Britain alone, where only three Roman legions were stationed, no less than five temples of Mithras have come to light?"


Library of the World's Myths and Legends - Roman Mythology Stewart Perowne
"Mithras"

"The form by which the ancient Iranian deity Mitra was introduced into the Roman Empire in 68 B.C.; this form was worshipped throughout the empire, with temples reaching as far north as Britain. By c. 250 A.D. the cult rivaled Christianity in its strength. A favorite of the Roman legionaries, Mithras was a god of the sun, justice, contract and war who was worshipped by only men, and in secret. His cult developed a savage ritual of bloody baptism, or Taurobolium, in which the votary sits in a trench over which a bull is sacrifice, thus bathing the man below in blood."

Encyclopedia of Greco-Roman Mythology Mike Dixon-KennedyHis alternate form is of a winged lion, strange eh? The following image has the caption "The more savage side of Mithraism is illustrated by this horrific deity, and ex voto of the year A.D. 190"

MythMath
06-06-2007, 04:01 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Cups02.jpg

fr.novumorganum
06-06-2007, 02:19 PM
http://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/mithras.jpg

Within a few years after the 1971 Congress, a radically different approach to explaining the tauroctony began to be pursued by a number of scholars. It is not an exaggeration to say that this approach has in just the past few years succeeded in completely revolutionizing the study of the Mithraic mysteries. According to the proponents of this interpretation, the tauroctony is not, as Cumont and his followers claimed, a pictorial representation of an Iranian myth, but is rather something utterly different: namely, an astronomical star map!---here (http://altreligion.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.well.com/user/davidu/mithras.html)


http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/reticulum/NORTHERNFRONTIER/InTheRealmOfTheGods/MithrasSml.jpg

"This, I propose, is the origin and nature of Mithras the cosmic bull-slayer. His killing of the bull symbolizes his supreme power: namely, the power to move the entire universe, which he had demonstrated by shifting the cosmic sphere in such a way that the spring equinox had moved out of Taurus the Bull.

Given the pervasive influence in the Greco-Roman period of astrology and "astral immortality," a god possessing such a literally world-shaking power would clearly have been eminently worthy of worship: since he had control over the cosmos, he would automatically have power over the astrological forces determining life on earth, and would also possess the ability to guarantee the soul a safe journey through the celestial spheres after death.

That Mithras was believed to possess precisely such a cosmic power is in fact proven by a number of Mithraic artworks depicting Mithras in various ways as having control over the universe. For example, one scene shows a youthful Mithras holding the cosmic sphere in one hand while with his other hand he rotates the circle of the zodiac. "

fr.novumorganum
06-06-2007, 02:49 PM
I've been reading through the body of light and ng links again, and I was suprised how often mithras was mentioned. I started to research around, and have been finding some very interesting thoughts. Apparently there is a growing body of thought that believes mithras was a god with domain over the stars, with the ability to move the universe, and the source of this power was from outside the universe as universe (ain soph anyone?). Just check out this essay title:


The Myhtric Mysteries:
The icons of this ancient Mediterranean cult can be deciphered
only in terms of a worldview that placed the powers controlling
human destiny not on the earth but in the stars.

by David Ulansey

Scientific American, December 1989 (vol. 261, #6), pp. 130-135.



the rest of the essay can be found here (http://www.well.com/user/davidu/sciam.html). I also linked to Ulansey's site in the pagan resource section. modern scholarship tends to reject the iranian origin of the myth, and argues the origin more to do with Roman cosmology.

Naomi
06-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Wow that is all very interesting fr. novumorganum, I also enjoyed your insight into RNA have been thinking about that alot (though I didn't have much to add yet)

Did the bull sacrificing really occur though or are you saying it was only symbology?

Because, personally, I think a cult of guys getting bathed in blood from a sacrificed bull equals instant cool factor for Mithras. ^_^

I love the astronomical/astrological connections there, this is indeed a very cool little detour....

fr.novumorganum
06-07-2007, 01:41 PM
thanks NC. One of the ways I've always had *sucess* with my magick was that important things just seemed to find me, or I'd easily find them...

from what I've read, the bull slaying is being understood in a more important way; it used to be read as proof of Iranian origin of the god-form, now the bull slaying is being read as a ritual of controlling the universe.

Naomi
08-01-2007, 09:04 PM
I posted a video of an evocation of Mithras I just performed at 6:45 CST.

It will be available in a few minutes here:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BlackSunInterstellar

The full video is 11:01 minutes long so I had to cut parts of it out to fit. The uploaded one comes out at 7:47:47. Actually, he requested I cut out all the parts where I umm...give some signs and procedures away. If certain people want a copy of the full version just pm me or something. If I don't know you well don't expect a response.

The song my playlist landed on at the end. It's just random I didn't set it up like that, but I guess Mithras intended it. Then my camera cut out but it was just me crying so nothing really spectacular.

Another song clip started during that time, it's called Epilogue by Leiahdorus and you can listen to a piece here:

http://www.emusic.com/album/Leiahdorus-Parallel-Universe-MP3-Download/10926497.html