Liber al Vel Legis III:12

[izi]

I tried to look this line up after pulling it in a scrying session three times in a row. I read through Crowley's The Law is for All.


PAH! more like "The Law is for Me!". Crowley is preening about his pretty emo events and I'm sitting here 100 years later with this dipshit giving me nothing of any use whatsoever.

Does anyone have anything useful to offer on this line?

12. Sacrifice cattle, little and big: after a child.


In Hebrew Gematria = 751

Difference of 3 between it and 718 the "Abomination of Desolation" which is entropy or lifelessness. Right?


It's kind of a weird schizo old-testament line. Smells like fish....

There is a useless, worthless rat allover the Book of the Law and I'm interested in why this line is popping up now as I am examining the world rat itself.

It matches this line in the Book of the Law gematrically, using The Gematria of Nothing:

'Remember all ye that existence is pure joy; that all the sorrows are but as shadows; they pass & are done; but there is that which remains." II:9

[m1thr0s]

Reading over other people's conversations with *praeterhuman* intelligences is a little like walking in on people having particularly weird (and potentially dangerous) sex. A great deal of it seems to be nobody's business but their own while certain technical aspects of it probably do belong in the public domain since they more-or-less impact everyone.

The trick is separating out which bits are which! :eek:

m1

[fr.novumorganum]

i don't know if any of this is new info or will help, but one never knows:

http://www.suziemanley.com/egyptian_cults/images/sacred_bulls_all.jpg

The Mnevis Bull was the sacred bull of Heliopolis, associated with the sun god Re. The bull was either black or pibald in color.

The early association of the gods with cattle probably relates to an early cattle culture of the pre-dynastic Egyptians. In the illustration below, the sacred cow, Hathor, is the sky and the ship of Ra is passing through her body on it's nightly journey.

http://www.suziemanley.com/egyptian_cults/images/hathor_sky_cow.jpg

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/egypt_animals.html

as far as the little and big cattle:


Sheep and goats were considered by the Egyptians to be 'small cattle', and they were kept for their meat, milk, wool and hide. Goats were more common than sheep, as they were better suited to grazing on poor land. There was extensive pigs rearing throughout Mennefer (Hikuptah, Memphis), Abu (Elephantine), Tell el-Dab'a and Akhetaten (El-Amarna), indicating that though pork was never used as an offering, that it was eaten by the Egyptians.

a lot more on egypt and cattle here:

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/egypt_animals.html

[m1thr0s]

thanks fr.novum...although there seems to be an unspoken question of some kind just preceding the *answer* - if that is what it is!
Crowley admits to his mind darting frantically throughout this whole episode so perhaps this was one of those instances...
It hardly seems reasonable to imagine we will be returning to animal sacrifice as a means to invoking the gods...

but then, invoking the gods begins to look less and less like it has anything to do with the Great Work anyway! :confused:

note: it may all depend on what you're after...if you're after traditional encounters then perhaps traditional procedures are still the best...

m1

[s1m0n]

What Crowley had to say about it:


AL III,12: "Sacrifice cattle, little and big: after a child."

AL III,13: "But not now."

AL III,14: "Ye shall see that hour, o blessed Beast, and thou the Scarlet Concubine of his desire!"

AL III,15: "Ye shall be sad thereof."

The Old Comment


12-15. This, ill-understood at the time, is now too terribly clear. The 15th verse, apparently an impossible sequel, has justified itself.

The New Comment


12-15. This, read in connexion with verse 43, was then fulfilled May 1, 1906, o.s. The tragedy was also part of mine initiation, as described in The Temple of Solomon the King. It is yet so bitter that I care not to write of it. {WEH NOTE: Crowley lost his first child to illness. He blamed his wife for unhygienic practices.}

Verse 43:


AL III,43: "Let the Scarlet Woman beware! If pity and compassion and tenderness visit her heart; if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known. I will slay me her child: I will alienate her heart: I will cast her out from men: as a shrinking and despised harlot shall she crawl through dusk wet streets, and die cold and an-hungered."

Source (http://hermetic.com/legis/new-comment/)

[izi]

Yes, THANK YOU that is from the aforementioned (and useless) The Law is for All...

[m1thr0s]

it's usefulness may reside with the fact that Crowley seems to have been fairly certain that those lines were directed at him personally and thus had no other *global* significance of any kind...a phenomena that seems to occur at odd intervals throughout the course of the text. That's only assuming that both old comments and new comments were completely candid...something there wouldn't seem to be any reason to confound.

i think we have to accept the fact that some parts of Liber Al vel Legis make no real sense to anyone BUT Aleister Crowley...and even those bits are overshadowed by his incessant need to tamper with anything and everything...even when he has been expressly forbidden to do so! It may be for the best as it seems to be telling us that the real Book of the Law is embedded between the lines and only surfaces intermittently at best.

edit: kind of like a verbal hologram of some kind I guess! :confused:

m1